REBUILDING A 2018 HELLCAT WELDING, CUTTING UP DONOR QUARTER PANEL Part 3
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Alright Guys, In todays episode of the 2018 Hellcat Rebuild, Ivan gets to work on taking off body panel pieces off the donor quarter panel . He runs into some issues trying to fit it on the Hellcat.. Thanks for Watching and Enjoy your Weekend!
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Man, I just couldn’t do it like that. You’ve got all the parts to make it right, take the time. I’d rather change a complete quarter and weld up the drill holes, then weld across the panel like that..
"I just couldn't" Nor would any good tech do this to a car This kind of crap work is common on the NET though it is uaually some forginer doing it.
Depends on what you want to do with the car when it’s done but for me, I’d want a whole new quarter over a pieces together one. To each his own though. 👍
Leave it! Looking Great 👍 👌
I'm 70 retired. 50 years in the automotive repair, and body work.
You inspire me to do a project like that. Great work
It's a salvage car. You are giving it a second life and saving it from the crusher. Keep going.
Anyone buying a salvage car expecting perfection is delusional.
Great video!
You hit the nail on the head right there. If it were an insurance repair or just a repair of a vehicle for a customer id say yeah do it "properly" but I've seen way worse with salvage vehicles.
I agree , but what a great video and content , you both are the best
I agree whole heartedly!
What a load of rubbish . This is already a shit repair. I’ve been panel beating for 40 years and see repairs like this come in to get repaired again. The complete inner skirt, wheel arch and 1/4 panel should have gone on in one peace. A perfect repair
@@vincentdelmonte5811 Not to mention if the car ever had to go through a integral safety this repair would not pass.
Hey, we all make mistakes. I would fill it and leave it. It's absolutely fine!
Top tip: where possible when butt welding flat panels together leave an overlap, fit the new section overlapping the remaining original part, and then cut through both panels together at a 45 degree angle. This will close the panels together perfectly in a 45 degree butted join.
You should have replaced the whole quarter panel from the get-go. You had it.
I don't know how many times i see it repaired this way even at body shops having full quarter panel, metal guys cutting out what is damage and I been to a lot of body shops to I used to install spray booths for body shops
@@funtyes1970 I know hack work when I see it!
I’ve always wondered, why try and reshape the inner wheel well and reuse when you have a perfect one from the parts car? The reshaped piece will never be 💯
You have a point but no wrecked and rebuild car is going to be 100% Only way to get that would be to jack up the horn btton and drive a new factory car underneath ...Even then a 100% is no guaerntee I saw a FordTauras torn in half by a broadside hit from a 280Z ALL the factory spot welds were torn open leaving a bit of sheet metal holding the back half to the rest of the car. The Ford driver was killed in the collision. This is the kind of thing that makes a tech do his best work making repairs or it should
I’d personally fix it right just for my own peace of mind of not feeling like I pulled one over the customer. It’s not like you can’t get a quarter panel pretty cheap for these cars as they’re not super rare or old. Keep up the good work guys!
and why isn't this right way fixing it. I never see anybody guys replacing hall quarter panel unless hall quarter panel is damage i dont have a problem how he fix it .
@@funtyes1970 I was referring to the small piece he put in because he mis cut it. To each his own as if it were mine I’d not like that. It may be fine for the short term but doesn’t seem like a good long term repair.
@@kirkenstang yes i know what you are talking about but to me that wouldn't bother me after paint you never know it was ever there and it not like it was filled with a lot of fiber glass and Bondo
Your work ethos and craftsmanship is second . to none. If the “mistake” does not compromise the structural rigidity of the vehicle then fill it and work your magic on it. If you hadn’t have revealed your mistake and went ahead and completed it then nobody would know any different.
Love the videos, very addictive! 👏
I am just going to come right out and say it, if that was my car i would have insisted the whole inner and outer structure be changed. You had the parts use them.
They are saving the original integrity of this vehicle, if it can be repaired than replaced then repair it, furthermore the inner structure is high strength steel .
@@quezlee7946 bent and hammered out metal is not equivalent and this is not an opinion its fact.
That invited more welding in the most critical parts of the car. Welding creates rust and weak parts. Original is always better .
@@frozenstang3868 If you get an original replacement from the dealership and replace the affected parts, in order to fit and weld the dealership part to the vehicle it will have to be beaten just to put a single weld , IF you want it to lay flat.
It's a salvage car.
Who cares. That's how they going to make more money in less time
Accidents happen! Even though it's more work, replacing the rear quarter panel is the best route.
And replacing it properly would be nice.
Two welded seams apart are stronger. Carry on it was totaled you are giving it a second life recycling so to speak with another donor. You saved two cars in my opinion. Thanks for sharing you Bros Rock!
I would've like to see you change the whole quarter but & I may speak for others here as well, lets see how it comes out. The quarter doesn't look bad but like others just peace of mind to change the whole quarter.
Cheesy repair, but you probably already feel bad enough about it. At least you are confident enough to show your mistakes. After bodywork and seam sealer, you will never see it.
Leave it and keep going. It is turning out great! It's a salvaged car not a restoration. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Yeah I'm with the rest of the clan fix it the right way this is a good car and deserves good work.
It is easy for me to say but I did think you had cut it too short Ivan. Mistakes happen but I think I would have replaced the whole thing anwway up to the window. You could have drilled out the spot welds in the door shut and have less problems. Just my opinoion. Thanks for the vdeo brothers.👍👍
Good to see you doing more video time alone. GOOD JOB! Start over on this one you will feel better about it.
That old Cat ain’t never gunner be Purr feckl 😂😂😂😂😂
should have replaced the pieces instead of shaping them,you have the parts...weld them in
A more desirable repair would have been to replace the whole quarter, y’all had it, I know it would have been more work but. That’s just me. But I know you guys will have it look flawless when it said and done. Keep up the great work!👍🏾
Thanks guys for sharing the 2018 Hellcat Rebuild Update. Now for you there is nothing impossible. After the rebuild of the Silverado and the RV, there are no impossible. Works to another level of perfection.🥇👍
Outstanding!! I did i body work for one year after coming home from the military. This reminded me of a daddys little girl prelude we had, she got tboned and the insurance company totaled the car. Daddy came out of pocket to repair the car since she didnt want to let it go. We had half a Prelude come in on a flatbed cut straight down the middle. We cut and spliced that Honda, it was amazing. When we were done with it it looked real nice i was in awe of what i experienced/learned as an auto body apprentice. Great work fellas, i cant wait to see the end result.
I would so love to see the critics cars and builds
If you did that in the UK, you'd be hauled over the coals. I would do it properly, and replace the whole quarter panel. Besides, with so much power, there may be some flex in the body/chassis. So over time it, may break your fix and filler and mean the purchaser is left with a hefty bill
I have been a subscriber for some time now,I truly enjoy your videos. The way you fix the quarter panel is within acceptable. But this calls for a complete repair,you need to do your welds out of sight. No welds showing or exposed in time they will show.
Still I enjoy your projects.
Looks great !! Get that Bondo going !! That's why they make it !
Measure twice cut once you guys are professionals 😎👍🏾
New drinking game, everytime you guys say "hopefully" chug!!
Love you guys
you will be able to see the repair at night unnder the street lights, it will bleed through. I had a new 76 Camaro and under the lights at night you could see the seem in sail panel where factory leaded it . I did body and frame work for 25 years on section 1 quarter and that was when I first started .
Great Job, I am impressed how strong that glue is. Everyone makes mistakes many will not admit to them. it is just part of learning. you must love doing this kind of work I am sure you have years of experience to make it look so easy
If your a pro, sure do it right. But for someone like me who is never going to sell, I’m ok with whatever will get my car looking good and back on the road. Got quoted $7k to fix the damage on my car. Car isn’t with that so I’ll do what this guy did. Great job!
Fantastic series & videos. My only complaint is the videos come out every few days instead of everyday like before, still amazing.
Fix it again it will eventually show
Do the seems in door jams and original quarter panel seems
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Looks good. Just keep going it’s not a big deal
I've been following your channel for some time now. Your standard of repair is always high in my opinion.
I don't see that quality here. Why not replace the inner fender and the other part behind the wheel arch?
I would always replace the entire rear panel. It's more work, but putting it all together with bondo also takes a lot of time.
This is a car that still has a good trade value, so I would put more time into it and repair it to OEM standards.
Other than that you have a great channel and I always enjoy your exotic purchases and repairs.
I think Ivan you did a dam good job. Stay safe.
As a total inexperienced viewer with no body work experience l am disappointed at the path you choose. But you guys do great work, and l enjoy watching.
It'll be fine. Not ideal but fine.
If youre going to sell it, Just leave it like that as long as the body work is clean and cant tell in the end. Or if you add wide body the fender flairs will hide most of the imperfections if any are left behind.Good job on the progress. Every job you learn from your mistakes. Next time measure twice cut once.
Maaaaan this is a lot of hard work.Nice job.
You even said it was a mistake you guys do such excellent work and if you keep it or sell it eventually that will show especially in quarter panel with all that Torque from that motor through unibody
You guys are so Inspiring! Great work ethic, hard working humble brothers. You guys deserve the Best! Keep up the Great work and Thanks for sharing!
Not trying to knock your work everybody has their own style but you guys had every part to replace every damaged piece on that car but you did shortcuts you guys can do better work than that keep putting out the content and keep being you
Well, hats off for you're actually showing your mistake...
You had so much of the donor car that you could have replaced all the damaged parts
which could have made the car a lot better and more valueable..
Realy Nice job friend
I would have used the inner structure of the quarter panel as well , looks good tho …..
Awesome build Guy's. I love the channel and how you overcome problems with a positive attitude! Keep up the great work!
Keep going when you're finished it's as good as new
Yeah the club 10 minute videos
WOW boys changing a cars color completely is a pain in the butt! All inside panels need to be worked and prepped for the color change trunk walls and under the truck on the out side! Lots of work time and money! Unless you want to keep the car for yourselves I would paint it original and clean it up and sell it! With gas at 6 bucks a gallon or more for premium you might have to hold on to it for awhile! I have a Hell Cat and if you drive it easy you can squeak out 20 on the Hwy but in town it drops to 11 or 12 depending on the stop lights.. Notice the rear tires!!! Good job and have fun with it.
It look's Nice leave it alone .. Nice video 👍👍👍
Hey guys I enjoyed the video. I would leave it as it is and just finish it off. You guys do amazing work and we all know it will be done right. Stay safe and God Bless.
Just keep going with it ...
It has a budget and with your excellent bodywork and eye for detail it will come out restored beautifully .
Well done fellas i watch daily here in England and you are nothing less than amazing !
Mistakes happen,but you done a fine job and rectified that.That in all good job.
Usually I love your chanel and the work you guys do, but what gets me with this, is that you had all the parts to make a proper safe repair, that once complete would have been difficult to notice even with an intrusive inspection, instead you've used maybe 25% of the donor rear quarter and made a right hash of it. Over here in the UK these types of repair are called "cut n shuts" and they are illegal simply beacause they are unsafe, Having said that I guess you guys are not hiding anything and whoever might buy this car can watch the videos to decide if they want to or not.
Les meilleurs mécanos du Monde (All word best mechanics)! Hey from France !
U made it look original it's safe no harm gitter done
Nice work guys 😀
This is good 👍 just little body filler apply and its straight like arrow 🏹
Nice work on showing all of the detail on taking the old qtr panel apart to get the piece to put back on the car. No comment on how to fix the patched together part. You will make the right decision on how to make it work.
Why don't you guys get a SPOT WELD DRILL KIT? It would be much better then what your are doing with a regular drill. Less the $25.
Also, with all the ose air tools you have you need a air chisel with some nice long shaft chisels bits.
Do the right thing 🤔
A properly welded patch is probably stronger than the original flimsy skin from the factory. If it's undetectable with a skim coat, keep it and move on. People forget you started on the easy end of the car!
Why don't you do like vtuned? Overlap then cut bot pieces. Seems more fool proof short-cut =))
Boy, tough call. If I was going to keep the car for myself I definitely would replace the quarter panel correctly. If I was just going to flip it I would just leave it as is because it's not unsafe it's just not as good quality repair as a complete quarter panel replacement.
It happens guys..
But you solve it nicely...
Keep going..
Greatest from Dubai
Looks good so far keep going.
Ivan I on the one hand would like to do the full quarter replacement! But it is not an otherwise pristine perfect low mileage Hellcat! However given that it is a salvage car of dubious history I think it's time to get out the body filler and get the Hellcat done! Whoever that buys it can watch the video if he likes so I say no harm no foul for what it is! Looking forward to the next video no matter how you finish it!
Guys you need to RUN from this car as fast as possible. This car was owned by a member of the Street Demons car club in Baton Rouge. All they do is close off intersections and do donuts and abuse their cars. I can almost guarantee that engine is blown. The doors are off another car because his were not damaged in the accident. The wheels were taken off. I think if you dig into the car you will find all the airbags have been removed also. You need to send this one back to auction and wash you hands of it.
Goony boyz also did a partial quarter panel repair similar to this to their quarter panel on their hellcat. This is a huge disservice to the Hellcat. Maybe if it was a v6 it would be ok. Dont dissapoint your fans and fix it right!
It’s a salvage car, keep going it will still be solid an look good!
I would leave it as long as it is structurally sound and cosmetically looks fine. Can’t believe it looks as good as it does considering how badly it was messed up.
That happened !
No one is failure free.
Like in the Bible that one is failure free throw the first stone.
Try to stabilis with Zink this way i learned it from my Master in Reconstruktion .
That you don't need the bondow .
The rest you make so good work.
Don't waist money time and materiel .
Greetings from Germany
Knowing me, I would fix it , cause leaving it would drive me crazy every time I looked at it to the point where I would rip it all apart and do it all over again
Leave it! Just smooth it out and seal it up tight and it will be fine.
Keep going with it.
You could take solder (autobody soldering, leading, tinning) over the quarterpanel. That would be strong enough and not crack with vibrations.
Looks awesome
It's a salvage title car. I personally would have done the whole quarter replacement but what you have will be good enough. My eyes aren't that good but when you started the cut I said to myself , that looks too short LOL.
Car body flexes and it usually cracks where he welded., but they will probably sell it before it happens. I would just replace whole quarter panel
Great Vlog ............ Bless
Hey man Dont worry about the centre peice you put in shit happens but your repairs a gaps look good when it's all finished you won't even see the extra fill in peice it will be right yes I know what I'm talking abouts I used to do all of them accident repairs stuff when I was a young guy cheers man love your show keep going you'll get there
Been watching your videos for a long while and like you guys' work. Unfortunately I can't agree with you guys in the route your are taking with this project. I understand u have a budget per project but these rebuilt cars have you name it. This Hellcat having over 700 HP should have the panel replacements done right for structural rigidity. Rear body panel should be completely replaced, not sectioned. Same thing with the quarter panel. Some short cuts should not be taken as they take more time in the long run for it to repaired properly. Good luck ✌️✌️
Good afternoon guys, it's looking great, put the body filler to it. No one will ever see it. Steve from N.B Canada
Thinking replace quarter panel or sail panel the splice um things happen. Thick skin . Keep the hard work u so us and not cover up like other channels.💯👍
🟠🟡🟢🟣🔴Leading the body panel with body soldering kit provides you with a solid foundation over the patched area on the fender ! Tinning is way better than using bondo filler! 🔵🟡🟠🟣🟢🔴
You only a human being we all make mistake it will look better at the end day ☺️
just because you had one little "OOPS" now that it is together leave it , fill it, grind it and paint it!
Its 100% metal and just as strong as original, sure it will have a little filler but uber thin, so it won't be an issue, it will end up getting crushed in 10 years anyway, so yes to filler it's not a new car.
Remember the old saying dude "MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE"! Lmao 🤣 But the thing is we are only human we all make mistakes, but if it doesn't bother you it doesn't bother me because you are going to have to slap some bondo on it either way whether you redo it or not so there is no use in spending all that money to buy another quarter panel!
Measure once cut twice, I like it lol... anyone who builds a lot of cars has done the same or just won't admit it. Having the filler piece makes little difference when your sectioning it anyways.
I would do it again for sure!!
Thats a tough call! It’s easy to say replace it again but if you think you can repair it perfect for a sale with anti-corrosion inside than let it fly. Your not hiding anything so let the buyer take it or not. It’s a lesson you probably already know but measure 3,4,5,6 times, cut once! But again, tough call!!
looks good leave it be.
Got a tough one this time!
Holly crap panel job😢
Wow, thats some other level hell of a work
You are doing a great job... forget about the snobby viewers claiming to do it all over. It looks great and will not even be noticed in the finished product.