MSM:ZERO.3 - Riddles (Kazuya) Vs. Ignaize (Marth) - SSBU - Top 32

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  • MSMZERO.3
    Monday Smash Meetup: ZERO, referred to as MSM:ZERO, is a video game tournament series featuring competitive Super Smash Bros. Ultimate located in La Mirada, California. Boasting the local talents of the Southern California region, MSM:ZERO aims to deliver the highest quality of play to the area on a biweekly basis and showcasing the excitement live on Twitch. Tune in live every other Monday starting at 6:00 PM PST / 9:00 PM EST on the Top Shelf Esports Twitch channel!
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Komentáře • 226

  • @dominiclodato533
    @dominiclodato533 Před rokem +510

    Marth living rent free in Riddles’ mind ⚔️ 🧠

    • @zackdiaz6375
      @zackdiaz6375 Před rokem +20

      Bro 😂 I thought Marth only won against riddles cuz it was mk Leo but now everybody’s marth is beating riddles

    • @salvadorhenriquez4091
      @salvadorhenriquez4091 Před rokem +53

      @@zackdiaz6375 ignaize is the Best solo marth player

    • @allencummings7564
      @allencummings7564 Před rokem +13

      This marth is so clean tho. One of maybe two or three marths that can beat him I'd guess

    • @salvadorhenriquez4091
      @salvadorhenriquez4091 Před rokem +3

      @@allencummings7564 but i do feel that the weird air velocity that marth has makes him a great character to play against kazuya, i could be wrong tho

    • @yuanwang9324
      @yuanwang9324 Před rokem +26

      @@salvadorhenriquez4091 Marth has good speed, air drift, and disjoints. All you need is a competent and skilled player like Ignaize or Leo to use those tools that counter Kazuya

  • @Sheamus1212
    @Sheamus1212 Před rokem +350

    Marth is officially riddles' kryptonite

    • @dguespan1290
      @dguespan1290 Před rokem

      Amen

    • @ethanggliu
      @ethanggliu Před rokem +2

      but then try to put marth with players other than absolute gods like ignaize and leo--still gonna get 0 to deathed by riddles

    • @ganr1034
      @ganr1034 Před rokem +9

      ​@@ethanggliu 0death with Kazuya is like eat a candy

    • @ethanggliu
      @ethanggliu Před rokem

      @@ganr1034 fr bro

    • @Hags_95
      @Hags_95 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Swordies in general. Leon's chrom for example

  • @spartanchief2
    @spartanchief2 Před rokem +228

    Riddles getting flashbacks

  • @travisashby7780
    @travisashby7780 Před rokem +278

    that last stock shieldbreaker

  • @sigurdtheblue
    @sigurdtheblue Před rokem +9

    People saying that down B is not cheap.... It scoops Marth trying to up-tilt. This move is absolutely broken.

  • @Spyder-Marth
    @Spyder-Marth Před rokem +79

    Ignaize taking advantage of every mistake Riddles made, and he gets the W. Well deserved. Marth is on the map! You love to see it.

  • @atari_hmb
    @atari_hmb Před rokem +67

    Going to give Credit to Ignaize for capitalizing off the punishes he needed. Marth clearly isn't no low-tier, he's just a hard to use High-tier - glad he's showing this, modern smashers go for the easy way out; hence why there are not that many Peach, or Sheik players.
    Well played Ignaize

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth Před rokem +6

      Yessir! That's what I'm saying about Marth. He's very viable, just hard. I wish other top players respected him. Good thing Ignaize is here to change that.

    • @noobavage6119
      @noobavage6119 Před rokem +6

      @@Spyder-Marth I'm pretty sure most agree with this. Hes like shiek in the sense that they are very hard to play and master especially in different match ups but once that is achieved, they arent going to be the ones that are climbing the hill, you are.

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@noobavage6119 I wish I could believe you, but man... people HATE Marth believers from my experience. My experiences must be very different from yours, since many players I talked to online think Marth is GARBAGE and actively told me to drop him for Lucina, Aegis, Roy... any "top tier" swordie.

    • @JROCK50054
      @JROCK50054 Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​​@@Spyder-MarthI'm a Marth main and will never drop Marth for any character, but I'm a believer that he's a high mid tier. And when it comes to online play, he's one of the absolute worst characters, because it's so damn difficult to execute at times. It's weird, cause you either kill someone at 40%, or you kill them at 180% or higher. Not saying those are the only % ranges I ever kill in, but it's not uncommon that MFs will live to 200% against Marth online. Up throw killing around those %'s is the only saving grace in those situations.

    • @PlagueDrHK-ov5hn
      @PlagueDrHK-ov5hn Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@JROCK50054Ftilt, uptilt,up b? Might be skill issue. I'm top 1% with Marth online

  • @CoHzus
    @CoHzus Před rokem +28

    Bro that was so LITTTTTTTT commentary and gameplay let’s gooooo

  • @MCMLXVII1967
    @MCMLXVII1967 Před rokem +88

    One of the best sets I've seen this year so far. Action packed and commentary is excellent and exciting

    • @Bixnoodle
      @Bixnoodle Před rokem +1

      Great set but the commentary is horrible

  • @th1b571
    @th1b571 Před rokem +73

    Thanks for posting this video, been tryna look for Ignaize vs Riddles much longer than I should've

  • @11_turtles
    @11_turtles Před rokem +42

    Losing with Kazuya is a choice

  • @Kamer.Sounds
    @Kamer.Sounds Před rokem +62

    When I saw a 6-minute game with Riddles as Kazuya I thought I knew the outcome

  • @rayybasedgod2297
    @rayybasedgod2297 Před rokem +105

    Riddles got straight PTSD dealing with Marty at this point lmao
    Edit: Marth* 😂

    • @im_Spade_
      @im_Spade_ Před rokem +27

      Ole Marty ruining people's lives once again

    • @SushiBurritoPapi
      @SushiBurritoPapi Před rokem +2

      Glad you clarified because I thought you meant Jigglypuff when you said Marty.

    • @T0asTy1
      @T0asTy1 Před rokem +20

      Nah, we using Marty now.

    • @30dynamo
      @30dynamo Před rokem +6

      Nah it’s Marty now lmaoo good one

    • @rayybasedgod2297
      @rayybasedgod2297 Před rokem +4

      If I run into anybody calling him Marty I know it’s to my appreciation💀😂

  • @4sety
    @4sety Před rokem +7

    Ignaize didn't even need one game to adapt to Riddles here. Absolutely insane.
    That second stock fumble in game 2 tho. Jeez.

  • @vamosrochin4309
    @vamosrochin4309 Před rokem +19

    this man is too good, exposing all the bad habits of players you love to see it

  • @masondegrazia
    @masondegrazia Před rokem +6

    NOBODY is ready for the Marth conversation… except for riddles

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth Před 11 měsíci +9

      Nobody but us Marth mains ⚔️

  • @raekwonchambers2297
    @raekwonchambers2297 Před rokem +30

    Ig this is the equivalent to light having a weakness to ganon 😂

  • @ShiddyKong
    @ShiddyKong Před rokem +4

    That wavebounce on the shieldbreaker when they think an aerial is coming is so slick

  • @justanotherguy8530
    @justanotherguy8530 Před rokem +21

    This set was fire 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ArkurisTV
    @ArkurisTV Před 21 hodinou

    man that final neutral b to finish the set was godlike. He aimed for Kazuyas shins because they are the only thing not invulnerable during his crouch dash.... CRAZY big brain

  • @samuelmcclamrock162
    @samuelmcclamrock162 Před rokem +39

    Soooooooo satisfying seeing this cheesball of a character be put down

  • @SirHammyLXXXIV
    @SirHammyLXXXIV Před rokem +27

    You love to see the hype action in non-top 8 sets. The commentary and gameplay was amazing 🔥

  • @wsetws
    @wsetws Před rokem +18

    exciting commentary, loved it!

  • @gaut8615
    @gaut8615 Před rokem +4

    Ignaize progress is just insane
    Excellent set, I was so hyped watching it !

  • @alonditex3958
    @alonditex3958 Před rokem +6

    Love the mega man zero theme of this tournament lol

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince Před rokem +5

    He really is the Kazuya slayer

  • @07XJuvi
    @07XJuvi Před rokem +7

    We all thought it, we didn’t think it was actually gonna happen. 😂

  • @Tekka-San
    @Tekka-San Před rokem +17

    Ignaize always been sick still the best Marth ‼️

  • @KnightOfFaith
    @KnightOfFaith Před rokem +2

    This commentary went crazy

  • @Johnny-pj9gi
    @Johnny-pj9gi Před rokem +1

    That manly war cry at the end of set two 😂

  • @stargazersdance
    @stargazersdance Před rokem +3

    Literally my two favourite pro players. That's crazy...

  • @djic
    @djic Před rokem +10

    2:52 “GOD DAMN! in this economy” sent me 😂😂

  • @josephtpg7329
    @josephtpg7329 Před rokem +6

    Riddles has a bad habit of spotdodging instead of punishing.
    3:10 was an easy punish that could’ve won the game but Riddles spotdodged instead.
    No disrespect to Riddles of course, because he’s an amazing player but that spotdodge habit has hurt him a couple of times.

  • @THF1Qwerty
    @THF1Qwerty Před rokem +1

    OMG, the final of the clip. Riddles getting rage again

  • @alottaguala9766
    @alottaguala9766 Před rokem +3

    The way this shit ends is wild

  • @kennyg2610
    @kennyg2610 Před rokem

    Very nice!!

  • @challengerssb
    @challengerssb Před rokem +7

    I haven’t even finished this set and I just gotta say it why does Riddles play like this?
    Giving lesser players openings and chances just cause he wants to go for flashy plays and cause he doesn’t respect certain players. He could have played it safe and won the first match in so many opportunities but instead (for example) he goes for crouch jab x2 into electric into fsmash?
    My guy, my lil bro can DI and punish that and I don’t even have a little brother.
    I have 4 minutes left, I already know Riddles doesn’t win these. He’d rather show off than win and that’s a shameful mindset at top level.

    • @ambush4144
      @ambush4144 Před rokem +4

      And you still wouldn't beat him in a b03

    • @justamugofcoco
      @justamugofcoco Před rokem +2

      This is the exact reason why he disabled his twitter after Genesis

    • @PlagueDrHK-ov5hn
      @PlagueDrHK-ov5hn Před 2 měsíci +1

      He just wanted the kill since he was behind moron. And I don't even like Riddles 😂

  • @johnford5769
    @johnford5769 Před rokem

    That scream at the End 🥲🤣🤣🤣

  • @nathanleung8545
    @nathanleung8545 Před rokem +4

    How does riddles throw the last stocks of each game that hard? We will never know.

  • @kllkj089h
    @kllkj089h Před rokem +6

    That's my GOAT, lets go ignaize

  • @warrenlwolfe
    @warrenlwolfe Před rokem

    the scream at the end LMAO

  • @yrneh755
    @yrneh755 Před rokem +2

    GRAH THAS MY GOAT

  • @SlaughterByName
    @SlaughterByName Před rokem

    BROOOOOOO IM GASSED RIGHT NOWWWW

  • @kiredornoral5738
    @kiredornoral5738 Před rokem +1

    Love the commentators!! 😂😂😂

  • @eyesofvengeance6030
    @eyesofvengeance6030 Před rokem +7

    Mkleo’s Marth gave Riddles trauma. He probably sees Marth in his nightmares. Now everyone knows who to use when counterpicking Riddles Kazuya.

    • @imnotgonnasugarcoatit
      @imnotgonnasugarcoatit Před rokem +9

      I don't know but you are making it sound you don't know who Ignaize is? Hes litterally the best Marth

    • @eyesofvengeance6030
      @eyesofvengeance6030 Před rokem

      @@imnotgonnasugarcoatit I already know Ignaize is the best Marth (besides maybe Mkleo's Marth when he uses him). I was making a joke that everyone should play Marth to beat Riddles Kazuya. The point of the joke is that no one could play Marth as good as Ignaize or Mkleo. It's called sarcasm.

  • @raco1246
    @raco1246 Před rokem +1

    This narrators are the best 🤣

  • @DavionLane
    @DavionLane Před rokem +1

    Riddles got dismantled

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Před rokem +1

    Marth bracket demon?

  • @gabrielmendez6128
    @gabrielmendez6128 Před rokem +3

    Let's go ignaize

  • @Hope4NewDay1
    @Hope4NewDay1 Před 10 měsíci

    Ignaize looked like he didn't even want win after the set

  • @trinhanpham6764
    @trinhanpham6764 Před rokem

    Commentators go crazy

  • @SilverAndMC
    @SilverAndMC Před rokem +1

    Atleast he didn’t cry or throw his controller this time

  • @TheCrAzYfox2332
    @TheCrAzYfox2332 Před rokem +3

    Ain't no way

  • @turb303
    @turb303 Před rokem

    the SCREEAAAMMM

  • @rigoFGC1
    @rigoFGC1 Před 9 měsíci

    JAJAJAJAJAJ the scream at the end jajajajajajajajaja

  • @empanothing
    @empanothing Před rokem +2

    2:43 bruh

  • @rocklob069
    @rocklob069 Před rokem +1

    He let it be him (twice)
    Marth - Kazuya matchup 90 - 10 now

  • @matthewroman6807
    @matthewroman6807 Před rokem +1

    Is this the Frosty Faustings champion?

    • @bs.blacklabel7479
      @bs.blacklabel7479 Před rokem

      he won, but if you watch the final, it doesn't feel like he won

  • @AweDude77
    @AweDude77 Před 8 měsíci

    bro was getting MkLeo flashbacks

  • @lokks2130
    @lokks2130 Před rokem +6

    Riddles throws vs Leo and SDs/airdodge + roll spams vs Ignaize and all of a sudden he has a Marth problem

    • @plabcentral630
      @plabcentral630 Před rokem +9

      You have to much faith. He definitely wasn’t throwing against Leo.

    • @gaelson_
      @gaelson_ Před rokem +5

      That’s just how Riddles plays, like he was in elite smash 💀💀

    • @allencummings7564
      @allencummings7564 Před rokem +2

      Actually I was wondering, it looked like those alleged sd's were all in situations where marth's sword was swinging where riddles needed to be, so he dodges the sword but can't grab ledge

    • @breadclip9911
      @breadclip9911 Před rokem +3

      @@allencummings7564 yeah idk why the commentators kept calling them sds. not saying I had a problem with the commentary, it was obvious that riddle’s air dodges came up short because ignaize was threatening the space well

    • @PlagueDrHK-ov5hn
      @PlagueDrHK-ov5hn Před 2 měsíci

      Low level interpretation of the game. He used his sword to force those "SDS" scrub.

  • @hmHua
    @hmHua Před rokem

    Where's Terry and Ritcher

  • @luismise5780
    @luismise5780 Před rokem +4

    Marth

  • @theJACKYTRAN
    @theJACKYTRAN Před rokem +1

    Man lets just call it what it is…..riddles suffering from PTSD

  • @HailTheShogun
    @HailTheShogun Před rokem

    This is crazy lol

  • @NaughtyPigMario
    @NaughtyPigMario Před rokem +1

    Thumbnail isn't marth

  • @imsosirius3151
    @imsosirius3151 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Ignaize don't go by he/him, he goes by the 🐐

  • @zabiyurei
    @zabiyurei Před rokem

    Pog

  • @Drop0sauce
    @Drop0sauce Před 8 měsíci

    Riddles only plays the most op characters in a lot of fighting games and still comes up short consistently in tournaments

  • @a5tr4l
    @a5tr4l Před rokem

    Wait, MSM has been revived anew?

    • @jairomontiel1655
      @jairomontiel1655 Před rokem +1

      This is not the original MSM, this is the spiritual successor that is now once every 2 weeks but it is run by some members of original MSM team

  • @stareatmyprofile9872
    @stareatmyprofile9872 Před rokem

    Liquid Middles

  • @Mortis_XII
    @Mortis_XII Před rokem +1

    Riddles should have busted out his belmont. Too stubborn picking kazuya in that matchup :/

  • @qrizth
    @qrizth Před rokem

    Riddles come back use Terry, please

  • @GameRock06
    @GameRock06 Před rokem

    Mashing doesn't always work

  • @chiefgalvan
    @chiefgalvan Před rokem

    sheeshhhhh

  • @monado5698
    @monado5698 Před rokem +3

    Someone tell my man to get a bit further from the mic

    • @allencummings7564
      @allencummings7564 Před rokem

      Rite? So many comments saying this is great commentary and I'm over here like wtf is this periodic screeching into the dang mic

  • @gavinwong1848
    @gavinwong1848 Před rokem

    My ears.

  • @avery7939
    @avery7939 Před 2 měsíci

    118% from one touch..? sounds like kazuya

  • @luckymanx2978
    @luckymanx2978 Před rokem

    Riddles choking way to hard

  • @julioarcaiko
    @julioarcaiko Před rokem

    Not john-ing for Riddles but my guy obviously has PTSD with Marth 😂 TOP tier commentary too. Very funny.

  • @jakeglumm8225
    @jakeglumm8225 Před rokem

    Riddles double SD

  • @ElAbsent
    @ElAbsent Před rokem

    Marth is a problem xD

  • @meliora_
    @meliora_ Před rokem +2

    wtf is happening to riddles

    • @atari_hmb
      @atari_hmb Před rokem +1

      He lost to the best Marth

  • @for9017
    @for9017 Před rokem

    まだポケスタのマルスは強いのバレてないんだ
    マルス使いには普通にポケスタ拒否安定まである
    単で使ってる人なんてそうそう居ないだろうけど

  • @ortallicafirst3866
    @ortallicafirst3866 Před rokem

    Fire emblem is riddles demon

  • @Afroninja1
    @Afroninja1 Před rokem +1

    2:51 .09 secs away from greatness

  • @kieranbull1400
    @kieranbull1400 Před rokem

    I think riddles needs a vacation or something, some way to get out of his own head

  • @docjohnson-yl3ly
    @docjohnson-yl3ly Před 9 měsíci

    Lmao Riddles is so carried as shown in this set he wouldn't be 8th if kaz wasn't as good as he is

  • @noobplaysleague7552
    @noobplaysleague7552 Před rokem +1

    Once again Riddles proves he is a terrible player on a broken character but STILL can't win!

  • @conemedemelee20
    @conemedemelee20 Před rokem

    rotazo

  • @johntodd6122
    @johntodd6122 Před rokem

    rip riddles choked game 1

  • @178laaleros
    @178laaleros Před rokem +2

    Rescept to this marth but also its pretty annoying when people make fun of riddles he is still a really good player. I would choke if i was the kayuza rather go cloud.

    • @davidperezvazquez7856
      @davidperezvazquez7856 Před rokem +17

      Riddles is low key carried by dlc characters tho. His Roy is mediocre and Kazuya is top 5 easily. He just played like trash this set. By the end he was just airdodging all the time and playing scared af.

    • @davidperezvazquez7856
      @davidperezvazquez7856 Před rokem +3

      @@lapismanalis6093 it makes me happy to see him tilted low key. I feel like he had so much success with Kazuya that he started to feel entitled to winning. Once better players developed counterplay he can’t accept that and it’s hilarious

    • @Sancnea
      @Sancnea Před rokem +16

      @@davidperezvazquez7856 What is this armchair psychologist bs? Is having certain expectations for yourself after being considered a top player bad?
      Even he didn't consider himself top 10 level even when he was winning because he knew he had his own set of bad habits he needed to work on. Y'all are actually hating on an imaginary version of a player just because you don't like the character he plays.

    • @davidperezvazquez7856
      @davidperezvazquez7856 Před rokem +1

      @@AerithxTifa terry has a kill confirm off downtilt that’s more consistent and requires less skill than the confirms than every one of the characters you listed besides ryu. Because he’s a dlc. Cope harder

    • @davidperezvazquez7856
      @davidperezvazquez7856 Před rokem

      @@AerithxTifa also down tilt is basically safe on shield so you can throw it out and poke just for fun

  • @Xblade_SH
    @Xblade_SH Před rokem

    Bro. What is with the announcers screaming into the mic. Ouch hurts the ears.

  • @skoolwifi3835
    @skoolwifi3835 Před rokem +1

    On paper, the swordies should almost always win. Almost all of them are faster than Kaz and their disjointed hitboxes just win.

  • @ohianaw
    @ohianaw Před rokem +2

    The Kazuya counterplay is slowly in effect. No need for bans

  • @ricardovazqueznava2906

    ridleyzzzzzzz

  • @franksred1
    @franksred1 Před rokem

    a lot of sd's

  • @Mindgamingu
    @Mindgamingu Před rokem

    Riddle’s just needs to slow down and breathe. He’s so aggro lately

  • @I_like_your_handle_Mister

    Riddles should get his $7.55 refunded, his Kazuya seems defective...

  • @d0f211
    @d0f211 Před rokem

    Scrubs in the comment

  • @kazuya6852
    @kazuya6852 Před rokem

    I don’t think I’ve ever been more disappointed in riddles