This does a great job of showing some of the essential techniques. Well done! I can't wait to try out what I'm seeing here on the beach and then take it to the water. I'm also stoked about seeing the potential of using this to traverse out to the wind line or to get to a better angle for downwind runs.
Impressive! It's definitely interesting for DW use! Could you give us a rough estimate of the angles you can do upwind? Could it be used for an upwind-downind?
i can comfortable hold my ground, upwind is hard but possible, meaningful upwing is not really possible, pocketwing is optimised for downwind starts on a smal board foil combo
in that wind you would have to practice to get up with the large 4.2 but yes possible, a mid lenght downwind style board would be my go to for those conditions to make it easy
@@kitingincaymanwould you recommend the 4.2 in general, or is it on the bulkier side when depowered/ packed up? I want to order one and generally go for the larger sized wings
@@kitingincayman I'm actually looking for one to use in Maui (seen you ripping out at ka'a, looks soo fun). My hunch is going larger is the play until I get the technique down. Thanks!
This is a great idea and should be an easy way to get into downwinding. However it's probably quite hard to get back upwind with it, right? Also I don't see a wrist leash, so if you lose it, it's gone? For 12-17 knots of wind with a downwind board and 1300cm2 foil the biggest one (L, 4.2m) is probably the best size?
I am just a kitefoiler, so not my sport, but this really seems the beginning of something cool. Always though that downwind with that wing flapping is pretty annoying😅
An elegant solution. Humans will always create. I'm an experienced kite foiler but have never been interested in Wing Foil or DW SUP foil (yes, I know-an unpopular opinion). Do you think a dinosaur kiter can learn this craft without the knowledge of winging or SUP? I live in Hood River I'm sure we will be seeing more of these rigs here this summer. Best size for the Gorge?
Zack you will have an advantage coming from kiting and allready foiling, start with larger board with the goal of getting back down to somthing small. You will need all sizes to go most days if I was only going to have one it would be the small 2.8m
@@zacksmith1509 start with a wing to get the feel of the larger board and getting up on foil without a kite, then dial in the pocket wing next. you have an advantage for sure with kite foiling experience. you understand the foil on small board.
@@kitingincaymanok thanks a lot. So maybe next suze down is enough. Especially with DW board and good technique. Hmm … what size are you on in the video? I totally appreciate it’s nice and windy there and very consistent. Thanks 🙏
Well, it appears that you are going to need to be very skilled to fly this thing and trainer kites don't require very much skill. Looks like you need to buck up and spend a bunch of time working on your skills instead of just using the lower cost/easy option.
@@brynmrsh Yes there is some bucking up that is required. A trainer kite is not an option, we tried. There's a significant amount of power required to get up on foil, especially with a small board.
we started with trainer kites and this is the smallest amount of material for the amount of power it delivers that you can get. trainers are not designed to make power or be stowable on the fly,. it is degsined for starting downwinders with small board foil combos.
This is made from very fine 10 denier ripstop with high quality lines foam covered handles and spandex pocket., There is no other substitute to get you up on a small board foil combo and be easily stowable, still less $$ than a paddle aloha
This does a great job of showing some of the essential techniques. Well done! I can't wait to try out what I'm seeing here on the beach and then take it to the water. I'm also stoked about seeing the potential of using this to traverse out to the wind line or to get to a better angle for downwind runs.
Maui huh...Nicely done.Good tech. Like your style.
Handy gizmoe. I guess if i was stranded on a deserted island with a piece of tyvek i know I could get home. Otherwise, I would rig my 4m wing.
This looks like it could work! It’s cool! 😊
Impressive! It's definitely interesting for DW use!
Could you give us a rough estimate of the angles you can do upwind? Could it be used for an upwind-downind?
i can comfortable hold my ground, upwind is hard but possible, meaningful upwing is not really possible, pocketwing is optimised for downwind starts on a smal board foil combo
I'm on the list for one! I've been trying flying ram air kites on the bridals but this looks like the ticket I've been looking for!
next batch should be here by mid june we will send out an email soon
Where do I sign up to get notified?
www.Five0windsports.com@@BenjiPotatoe
What is the wind range of the sizes compare to a wing
Very interesting :) is it only for downwind, or can you use it maybe to Dockstart with, pull it during the ride and go upwind at least a little bit?
a little bit up wind is possible but a beam reach across the wind is easy and make many spots more accessable
Brilliant. And so it begins…..
first time seeing this. very cool
Could this thing be used in a buggy on land?
What size kite would you need to start that 45l board in 15-20mph winds?
in that wind you would have to practice to get up with the large 4.2 but yes possible, a mid lenght downwind style board would be my go to for those conditions to make it easy
@@kitingincaymanwould you recommend the 4.2 in general, or is it on the bulkier side when depowered/ packed up? I want to order one and generally go for the larger sized wings
@@louisjarvis265 It's actually not that much more bulky and definitely the size to start with for your wind speeds
@@kitingincayman I'm actually looking for one to use in Maui (seen you ripping out at ka'a, looks soo fun). My hunch is going larger is the play until I get the technique down. Thanks!
Good old nada wing so easy to make
This is a great idea and should be an easy way to get into downwinding. However it's probably quite hard to get back upwind with it, right? Also I don't see a wrist leash, so if you lose it, it's gone? For 12-17 knots of wind with a downwind board and 1300cm2 foil the biggest one (L, 4.2m) is probably the best size?
yep no leash no need for one it just complicats things if you drop it it stays put and the handles float, yes Large is where you should start
I am just a kitefoiler, so not my sport, but this really seems the beginning of something cool. Always though that downwind with that wing flapping is pretty annoying😅
So basically a single skin mini paraglider ?
Very Cool
Clever very clever
An elegant solution. Humans will always create. I'm an experienced kite foiler but have never been interested in Wing Foil or DW SUP foil (yes, I know-an unpopular opinion). Do you think a dinosaur kiter can learn this craft without the knowledge of winging or SUP? I live in Hood River I'm sure we will be seeing more of these rigs here this summer. Best size for the Gorge?
Zack you will have an advantage coming from kiting and allready foiling, start with larger board with the goal of getting back down to somthing small. You will need all sizes to go most days if I was only going to have one it would be the small 2.8m
@@kitingincayman Thanks!
@@zacksmith1509 start with a wing to get the feel of the larger board and getting up on foil without a kite, then dial in the pocket wing next. you have an advantage for sure with kite foiling experience. you understand the foil on small board.
Hi, what is your foil setup?
this was 780Ha on 795 mast with 180 tail 45ish liter board
@@kitingincayman what size inflatable wing would you have been on with in those conditions, foil and board?
@@therealgoodhurt prob 3m
@@kitingincayman thanks bro, sick all round
short board downwinders can finally ditch their skis
Do the bigger sizes fit in the same waist bag?
How is the take off in big bumps?
yes they all go in the same bag, take off is easy in big seas after a bit of practice
Definitely need one, what size would you recommend for 25 knots, 70kg and hopefully under 40l board no matter how much practice it will take?
Thanks
@@benjaminhalas9475 i would say you might be good on the Medium
Thanks!
Where id it. Water so clean
Maui 🤙
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Interesante
Super! Hey can we buy this now? Been waiting since last year 🤙🤛
big batch landing June 15th
@@kitingincaymanright on. Good to hear 🤙🤛
@@kitingincaymanwhat size you reckon for Hood River? Very experienced foiler 84kg DW set up. Medium?Thanks 🙏
@@dominicanywhere good size to start but will be overpowered quickly when gets windy
@@kitingincaymanok thanks a lot. So maybe next suze down is enough. Especially with DW board and good technique. Hmm … what size are you on in the video? I totally appreciate it’s nice and windy there and very consistent. Thanks 🙏
Why not a single handle instead of 2? Don't see the point of holding it with 2 hands
You have just described how modern day kites were developed....
Never thought of my wing as big or bulky or boy I wish I had something fanny pack size.
Never? You must not flag out and ride waves?
Now if they can just make a board and foil that fits in a Fanny pack…
Why are people allowed to make watersports on that Turtle beach???
they are careful not to hit the turtles. and that is why turtles have tough shells.
Why not to use a single skin training kite for 100€ ?
because trainers are designed to not make power so you can train safely, pocketwing is no trainer - it takes skill to fly and makes tons of power!
Well, it appears that you are going to need to be very skilled to fly this thing and trainer kites don't require very much skill. Looks like you need to buck up and spend a bunch of time working on your skills instead of just using the lower cost/easy option.
@@brynmrsh Yes there is some bucking up that is required. A trainer kite is not an option, we tried. There's a significant amount of power required to get up on foil, especially with a small board.
I can see Mr Lenny will not get involved in this ( neither kalama!)
.....next?
Seems like there are a lot of trainer kites out there with way better designs that do not cost $475.00, just my opinion.
we started with trainer kites and this is the smallest amount of material for the amount of power it delivers that you can get. trainers are not designed to make power or be stowable on the fly,. it is degsined for starting downwinders with small board foil combos.
I have seen the price on the web
and it is exaggeratedly high
This is made from very fine 10 denier ripstop with high quality lines foam covered handles and spandex pocket., There is no other substitute to get you up on a small board foil combo and be easily stowable, still less $$ than a paddle aloha
Hello could you please provide a link to purchase this?
@@xavierbonnard3977 sold out currently waiting on next batch to arrive in two weeks www.fiveowindsports.com
@@xavierbonnard3977 www.fiveowindsports.com
nice. for > 30 knots
the large works great in 15knts
A umbrella works as good ,sorry 🎉
Patiently waiting for your video proving the concept 🎉
@@kitingincaymangood reply 😉
Prices are stupid looks like around 50 bucks to me
This looks pretty crap and requires a great deal of skill.
Was für ein Blödsinn
We don't know what else to do?
go downwind?
:)