Loving this - especially seeing an Aussie crowd politely applauding English runs, and staying sat-down to clap Aussie wickets too, a different age !. And Ian Chappel walked !! ;-)
I remember as a kid in Melbourne it rained for days and ruined the Test and this was a kinda weird replacement. Who knew it was the start of something. Melbourne hosted the first Test and first ODI.
I had a mate who also bowled off the wrong foot back in the late 70's the senior players nicknamed him Froggy. I cant remember Froggy bowling other than knowing his name as I was only about 6 when this game was played. Imagine him, Tangles and Skull O'Keefe playing in the same team. Batsmen would get out pissing themselves with laughter.
I always enjoyed Boycott and Edrich opening together. Edrich seemed to hit the ball effortlessly. Perfect timing. I have never heard Frank Tyson commentate before, great voice for radio.
Great find. I was there, in the old Olympic Stand. Seems so ‘old-fashioned’ and staid now. Ian Redpath seems to be the only fieldsperson. And so many no longer with us: Frank Tyson, Froggy Thomson, Max Walker, Rodney Marsh, Ashley Mallett … probably others too.
That was a series and a half and the first I remember as a kid. Melbourne Test was rained out after the toss without a ball being bowled. The 40x 8 ball over match was "compensation" for the Melbourne crowd. Rod Marsh debuted in the series "Iron gloves", replacing NSW's Brian Taber. Marsh got a rough reception from the Sydne crowd in the Fourth Test. Lawry was unceremoniously dumped as Captain (he found out by reading it in the paper over the shoulder of another tram passenger apparently) and Chappelli took over. Dennis Lillee debuted in that series as did Greg Chappell, scoring a ton on debut. A Seventh Test match was later played in Sydney. That was where Illingworth took his team off the field after a spectator at the old Paddo end of the ground grabbed Snow after he'd hit Terry Jenner with a few bouncers. Jenner left the field, came back at the fall of a wicket and was promptly bounced by Snow again. Beer cans were inches deep for about 6 feet inside the boundary except in front of the members. England nearly forfeited. Later had the pleasure of umpiring with Tom Brooks. Ah memories.
There as all this media hoo-haa at the time about the events described here. I saw a picture some years later, in some magazine or newspaper, of the arm-grabbing incident and it was some ruddy complexioned, wrinkle-faced guy probably in his 40s, or even older. .At that fool's age I was long since progressively over all that parochialist sports crap. For the last 30 to 40 tears I've lost track of it all. I have no idea whatsoever, and for decades, what gives with the NRL. the AFL, the Melbourne Cup, who currently holds the Ashes, who is playing who in cricket, the World Cup, or even where the Olympics is even being held, never mind who is winning in all that. I would not pay admission to any of it.
Came down with my grandparents as a special treat for the Melbourne test, sat in the stands for 2 1/2 days of nothing but rain before going off and seeing 'Paint your Wagon' at the cinema ... sigh! 😞
@@jthomlin Were you at the ground when Ian Johnson, one of the MCG officials said the pitch was fine to play on then walked out to start removing the covers and slipped and fell flat on his back!!!!!
@@AlunThomas-mp5qo Sorry, I missed seeing that! I remember them coming out for the toss but that's about it, at least that was all that was in the part of my brain labeled '2 1/2 days of my life that I will never get back ...'.
Things were so much better then. No gaudy advertising on the fence, players in creams with no advertising, no stupid DRS, no bum patting high five giving, players tucking their bat's under their arms and walking off immediately,umpires making decisions, sight screens of a sensible size . It has become very easy to fall out of love with today's big cricket
Pity that I was just a baby in the pram at the time, Dennis. Too young to understand or remember that period first time round! I am the same age as Chris Cairns.
I remember from seeing highlights of this match many years ago that Ian Chappell did charge the bowling. He did that more extensively than I thought, going by this. It is what did get him out, but he got those runs on the board in the target chase.
Fascinating to watch this! I think you can add 150 runs to the scores of both teams if they used modern bats - many of these shots would have gone for 4 or 6. The fielding was pretty abysmal though, at times almost comical. Ian Chappell played some great shots, really inventive and aggressive. I sincerely hope Snow bowled all his overs, otherwise the English captain seemed content to make him chase balls in the outfield all day!
Best I've seen - similar batting Stats to Marsh, but l never saw Knott make a mistake. Granted Marsh was keeping to guys like Thommo and had more to do and more scope for mistakes - even so..
@@hanajinks1044 Marsh wasn't as good as Knott when standing up for spinners. Knott took Underwood easily, no mean feat, but helped by being teammates at Kent.
@sentimentalbloke185 When there are two Aussies here praising Knott, even ahead of Marsh, l think that says a lot. I don't think there was much between them, but l just never saw Knott make a mistake. Not to say that Marsh made many... The most incredible keeping I've seen was Marsh trying his best best not to allow 4 byes from nearly every ball from Thommo at the WACA one day. I'm sure you'd recall how deep he had to stand, and the sheer level of acrobatics required to keep a clean sheet, as it were...Corporatism has utterly destroyed Sport as we knew it.
@@hanajinks1044 Marsh was not as good standing up, in fact I'd rate Healy better than Marsh in that aspect as he was brilliant with Warne. It was less important in Marsh's era as Aus mainly relied on pace bowling attacks, not much spin. But Marsh invented the dramatic, acrobatic dive for a catch across in front of the slips, no one had really done that before him.
@@iankearns774 actually in '64 played a blinder for Yorkshire in a great innings and scored more runs than the opposing team!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Gillette_Cup
ODIs were known then as knock out matches, or limited overs matches. This one was 40 eight-ball overs each, so 320 balls per side compared with the current format of 300. ODIs weren't standardized at 50 overs until the mid '80s. The Poms had plenty of experience playing the various formats in county cricket (60, 55 & 40 overs) whereas the Aussies only had the V&G Knockout Competition, inaugurated in 1969-70 and including the New Zealand national side. It was also played as 40 eight-ball overs. Australia reverted to six-ball overs for the first post-WSC season in 1979-80.
I still vividly remember when it changed from 8 balls to 6. We all thought it was stupid at the time, I would have been in the last year of Under 14's. It was hard to get used to.
@@BulldogDynastyYes. England used that format for international matches at home until c2000 when they were played earlier in the season as a warm up to the test matches.
@@sentimentalbloke185 Which of course means that, unlike Australia, their cricket board and those of every other country never investigates allegations of cheating against their team. The ACB's willingness to investigate and ban their own players, as well as the willingness of the Australian media to point out their own indiscretions, is the only reason people have this distorted view of Australia.
This was an after thought ( the Boxing Day test was washed out ! So this was the result! Ian Chappell said they didn’t think much about it but he did say you always wanted to beat the Poms Enjoying watching Froggy bowl !
The test match was washed out first 3 days so in those days 2 days would not be enough (unlike today's daft tests) so a one day match was chosen to replace test (and it was a sell out)
The day Test Cricket heard a distant death knell. The number of cricket players who know how to manage a five day test is shrinking, because everyone is getting used to ODI play.
That reminds me, I asked Doug Walters on talk-back radio in 1984 about near exactly that, the significance or importance, going forward, of one day cricket as against Test cricket. He was jive with what I was referring to. I think he was non-partisan about it. But, blow me down, I did exactly that, albiet as an anonymous nobody. And it being someone from this particular match.
@@WAFootyHub When I heard the name Thompson, I thought they were referring to Jeff Thompson, that was until I saw that bowling action. It was also interesting just how low down the order Greg Chappell came in at. I guess he was pretty new to the scene back then.
@@utha2665 GC batted at #7 in his first test when he made 108. His bowling was used quite a bit in tests before he became captain, so early days he was a batting all-rounder.
@WAFootyHub Thommo was understably never quite the same after the Turner Collision- l still feel sick thinking about it. He'd surely be considered at least the equal of guys like Marshall, Akram and Lillee if it had never happened.
OMG watch the final seconds you'll see one of those thugs who ran onto the ground ripped Greg Chappell's baggy green right off his head! I'm glad they don't allow that now! All those commentators saying how genteel and nice the crowd was back in the day you need to have a close look at that and maybe you'll think different. Take off your rose colored glasses. They practically got mugged, damn
@@VSV659 I think you will find it wasn't an official international game being the reason they were referred to as the MCC. This game was slated due the the 3rd test in that series being washed out and was an attempt to recoup some lost revenue.
The touring team were always MCC as they were selected and even paid by thecMCC. It’s only relatively recently that the ECB took over running touring teams and they became known as England.
None of that pansy kissing and hugging on the first wicket boycott caught by lawery? The Australian just got a little tap on his shoulder celebrations over in a spilt second 😂 those guys would absolutely horrified with today cricket
Loving this - especially seeing an Aussie crowd politely applauding English runs, and staying sat-down to clap Aussie wickets too, a different age !. And Ian Chappel walked !! ;-)
I remember as a kid in Melbourne it rained for days and ruined the Test and this was a kinda weird replacement. Who knew it was the start of something. Melbourne hosted the first Test and first ODI.
Alan "Froggy" Thomson took the first ever ODI wicket. It was his only ODI wicket and only ODI game he ever played.
I had a mate who also bowled off the wrong foot back in the late 70's the senior players nicknamed him Froggy. I cant remember Froggy bowling other than knowing his name as I was only about 6 when this game was played. Imagine him, Tangles and Skull O'Keefe playing in the same team. Batsmen would get out pissing themselves with laughter.
Poor old Froggy,two sitters at slip dropped as well....
@@iankearns774 he makes Walkers action look normal
ODI format + Test whites = perfection
I'm so pleased they showed us the replay of the run out again at 8:46. It certainly cleared up any misunderstanding i had. 😂
Clear as mud lol.
Boycott immediately into his stride....blocking the first ball (a loosener from McKenzie) with a dead bat😂
Southern prick!!!
I always enjoyed Boycott and Edrich opening together. Edrich seemed to hit the ball effortlessly. Perfect timing. I have never heard Frank Tyson commentate before, great voice for radio.
Frank Tyson was an original Channel 9 commentator during the Packer era
None of the high fiving,chest bumping,butt slapping wicket celebration that we see in the modern game
Or complaining about being out.
Great find. I was there, in the old Olympic Stand. Seems so ‘old-fashioned’ and staid now. Ian Redpath seems to be the only fieldsperson. And so many no longer with us: Frank Tyson, Froggy Thomson, Max Walker, Rodney Marsh, Ashley Mallett … probably others too.
It was so much fun to see Froggy Thomson again.😊
Also fun to see Stackie rolling his arm over, not a bad leggie to bowl ??? around his legs!
That was one pretty unique bowling action! It didn't really catch on.😅
@MrDunkiep Back then, every kid could mimic it. Most of us are too old to try now, but it's fun to remember.
@@brettrobson5739We're giving our ages and nationalities away here... I used to 'do' Bob Willis.
it reminded me so much of Debashish Mohanty, Indian medium bowler; circa 1999. So froggy did have one taker.
That was a series and a half and the first I remember as a kid. Melbourne Test was rained out after the toss without a ball being bowled. The 40x 8 ball over match was "compensation" for the Melbourne crowd. Rod Marsh debuted in the series "Iron gloves", replacing NSW's Brian Taber. Marsh got a rough reception from the Sydne crowd in the Fourth Test. Lawry was unceremoniously dumped as Captain (he found out by reading it in the paper over the shoulder of another tram passenger apparently) and Chappelli took over. Dennis Lillee debuted in that series as did Greg Chappell, scoring a ton on debut. A Seventh Test match was later played in Sydney. That was where Illingworth took his team off the field after a spectator at the old Paddo end of the ground grabbed Snow after he'd hit Terry Jenner with a few bouncers. Jenner left the field, came back at the fall of a wicket and was promptly bounced by Snow again. Beer cans were inches deep for about 6 feet inside the boundary except in front of the members. England nearly forfeited. Later had the pleasure of umpiring with Tom Brooks. Ah memories.
A great read! Many thanks 😊
There as all this media hoo-haa at the time about the events described here. I saw a picture some years later, in some magazine or newspaper, of the arm-grabbing incident and it was some ruddy complexioned, wrinkle-faced guy probably in his 40s, or even older. .At that fool's age I was long since progressively over all that parochialist sports crap. For the last 30 to 40 tears I've lost track of it all. I have no idea whatsoever, and for decades, what gives with the NRL. the AFL, the Melbourne Cup, who currently holds the Ashes, who is playing who in cricket, the World Cup, or even where the Olympics is even being held, never mind who is winning in all that. I would not pay admission to any of it.
Came down with my grandparents as a special treat for the Melbourne test, sat in the stands for 2 1/2 days of nothing but rain before going off and seeing 'Paint your Wagon' at the cinema ... sigh! 😞
@@jthomlin Were you at the ground when Ian Johnson, one of the MCG officials said the pitch was fine to play on then walked out to start removing the covers and slipped and fell flat on his back!!!!!
@@AlunThomas-mp5qo Sorry, I missed seeing that! I remember them coming out for the toss but that's about it, at least that was all that was in the part of my brain labeled '2 1/2 days of my life that I will never get back ...'.
Ian Chappell's six would have been 95m+ to clear MCG boundary of that era. With a thin bat to boot.
wow that action from Thomson...I pull a muscle just looking at it
*Wish I could get a time machine and go back there*
Loved watching Boycott and Edrich open for England. 254 First Class centuries between them. Incredible.
Things were so much better then. No gaudy advertising on the fence, players in creams with no advertising, no stupid DRS, no bum patting high five giving, players tucking their bat's under their arms and walking off immediately,umpires making decisions, sight screens of a sensible size . It has become very easy to fall out of love with today's big cricket
Pity that I was just a baby in the pram at the time, Dennis. Too young to understand or remember that period first time round! I am the same age as Chris Cairns.
Another Brilliant Upload Keep it up
3:41 - I love this guy's bowling style
Reminds me of Mushtaq Ahmeds bowling style
I remember from seeing highlights of this match many years ago that Ian Chappell did charge the bowling. He did that more extensively than I thought, going by this. It is what did get him out, but he got those runs on the board in the target chase.
Loved the commentary of Frank
Alan Knott was a great keeper.
Keith Stackpole. He was a stout, consistent opening bat for Australia on into the early 1970s.
brother from where you got these clips ???
The field is massive, no short boundaries and old school bats.
No fielding restrictions , no boundary rope 5 metres in
No helmets either.
Fascinating to watch this! I think you can add 150 runs to the scores of both teams if they used modern bats - many of these shots would have gone for 4 or 6. The fielding was pretty abysmal though, at times almost comical. Ian Chappell played some great shots, really inventive and aggressive. I sincerely hope Snow bowled all his overs, otherwise the English captain seemed content to make him chase balls in the outfield all day!
All of those shots caught in the MCG outfield would be six on most grounds' boundaries today. How things change!
My word Knott was a great keeper.
aye, can't think of anyone better as an allrounder, ie. standing back or standing up.
Best I've seen - similar batting Stats to Marsh, but l never saw Knott make a mistake. Granted Marsh was keeping to guys like Thommo and had more to do and more scope for mistakes - even so..
@@hanajinks1044 Marsh wasn't as good as Knott when standing up for spinners. Knott took Underwood easily, no mean feat, but helped by being teammates at Kent.
@sentimentalbloke185
When there are two Aussies here praising Knott, even ahead of Marsh, l think that says a lot. I don't think there was much between them, but l just never saw Knott make a mistake. Not to say that Marsh made many...
The most incredible keeping I've seen was Marsh trying his best best not to allow 4 byes from nearly every ball from Thommo at the WACA one day. I'm sure you'd recall how deep he had to stand, and the sheer level of acrobatics required to keep a clean sheet, as it were...Corporatism has utterly destroyed Sport as we knew it.
@@hanajinks1044 Marsh was not as good standing up, in fact I'd rate Healy better than Marsh in that aspect as he was brilliant with Warne. It was less important in Marsh's era as Aus mainly relied on pace bowling attacks, not much spin. But Marsh invented the dramatic, acrobatic dive for a catch across in front of the slips, no one had really done that before him.
Bowling off the wrong foot. A thing of the past!
Eight ball overs in those days!
Brilliant coverage apparently the wicket was a 'sticky dog'
Australian victory, nothing has changed.
notice not a single ad sign on the boundary fence! - shows you how the world is so over commercialized these days
I was just a baby in the pram at the time- less than a year old. Found out about it years later (now in my early fifties!)
Sir Geoffrey looked like he had better things to do that day.For him that was a very strange shot selection so early on in his innings.
Boycott and Lawry were not suited to one day cricket.
@@iankearns774 actually in '64 played a blinder for Yorkshire in a great innings and scored more runs than the opposing team!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Gillette_Cup
Froggy Thomson. My brother used to try him.
“7 for 156 isn’t a bad score in a 40 over match”. Wow, we have moved on quickly
ODIs were known then as knock out matches, or limited overs matches. This one was 40 eight-ball overs each, so 320 balls per side compared with the current format of 300. ODIs weren't standardized at 50 overs until the mid '80s. The Poms had plenty of experience playing the various formats in county cricket (60, 55 & 40 overs) whereas the Aussies only had the V&G Knockout Competition, inaugurated in 1969-70 and including the New Zealand national side. It was also played as 40 eight-ball overs. Australia reverted to six-ball overs for the first post-WSC season in 1979-80.
I still vividly remember when it changed from 8 balls to 6. We all thought it was stupid at the time, I would have been in the last year of Under 14's. It was hard to get used to.
Actually the 1993 series in which Australia beat England was 55 overs
@@BulldogDynastyYes. England used that format for international matches at home until c2000 when they were played earlier in the season as a warm up to the test matches.
@@BulldogDynasty The first world cup was 60 overs.
That's why Australia always dominates, it's an entire Nation Continent vs a London Cricket Club.
plus cheating
What a pair of rubbish comments.
that's a bit rough, Poms don't always cheat
@@sentimentalbloke185 Which of course means that, unlike Australia, their cricket board and those of every other country never investigates allegations of cheating against their team. The ACB's willingness to investigate and ban their own players, as well as the willingness of the Australian media to point out their own indiscretions, is the only reason people have this distorted view of Australia.
@@godfreypigott good point. The Aus cricket media are always looking to portray the team in a bad light.
This was an after thought ( the Boxing Day test was washed out ! So this was the result! Ian Chappell said they didn’t think much about it but he did say you always wanted to beat the Poms Enjoying watching Froggy bowl !
Back when players also had real jobs ... as should be the case.
No hand shakes to the enemy back then.😂
Rain was the creator of One Day Matches.😮😊
and has ironically been ruining it every since
The test match was washed out first 3 days so in those days 2 days would not be enough (unlike today's daft tests) so a one day match was chosen to replace test (and it was a sell out)
The day Test Cricket heard a distant death knell. The number of cricket players who know how to manage a five day test is shrinking, because everyone is getting used to ODI play.
Sad
That reminds me, I asked Doug Walters on talk-back radio in 1984 about near exactly that, the significance or importance, going forward, of one day cricket as against Test cricket. He was jive with what I was referring to. I think he was non-partisan about it. But, blow me down, I did exactly that, albiet as an anonymous nobody. And it being someone from this particular match.
They looked pissed off when Lord Geoffrey of Ego was out.
Probably wanted him to carry his bat for 52 not out 😂
Boycott, Edrich, Lawry and Redpath in a fast scoring format!
That Thompson looks a little different lol
And it took until Packer to see the value in ODIs.
Who's the bowler with the terrible homespun action?
Froggy Thomson. Can't be too terrible, he got Boycott. lol
Dennis Lillee replaced him shortly after this. Then another Thomson can along.
@@WAFootyHub When I heard the name Thompson, I thought they were referring to Jeff Thompson, that was until I saw that bowling action. It was also interesting just how low down the order Greg Chappell came in at. I guess he was pretty new to the scene back then.
@@utha2665 GC batted at #7 in his first test when he made 108. His bowling was used quite a bit in tests before he became captain, so early days he was a batting all-rounder.
@WAFootyHub
Thommo was understably never quite the same after the Turner Collision- l still feel sick thinking about it. He'd surely be considered at least the equal of guys like Marshall, Akram and Lillee if it had never happened.
Was Norman May on holidays
OMG watch the final seconds you'll see one of those thugs who ran onto the ground ripped Greg Chappell's baggy green right off his head! I'm glad they don't allow that now! All those commentators saying how genteel and nice the crowd was back in the day you need to have a close look at that and maybe you'll think different. Take off your rose colored glasses. They practically got mugged, damn
not picking underwood seems strange
They're referring to 'MCC' rather than 'England', suggesting how lightly limited overs matches were taken in those days.
Other than for Tests, on tours the team was always known as MCC
@@VSV659 I didn't know this. How antiquated and retarded.
@@VSV659 I think you will find it wasn't an official international game being the reason they were referred to as the MCC. This game was slated due the the 3rd test in that series being washed out and was an attempt to recoup some lost revenue.
The touring team were always MCC as they were selected and even paid by thecMCC. It’s only relatively recently that the ECB took over running touring teams and they became known as England.
None of that pansy kissing and hugging on the first wicket boycott caught by lawery? The Australian just got a little tap on his shoulder celebrations over in a spilt second 😂 those guys would absolutely horrified with today cricket
No..helmets
Ian Chappell can’t stick the man overrated cricketer
lex marinos
bowlers back then were pie throwers.
Would still clean you and me up mate.
What a load of bullshit!!
My post was deleted, why I dont know. I reiterate what I posted. They would have cleaned us up back then mate.
@@iankearns774 c'mon man, who you gonna believe.....the cricket propaganda or your own lying eyes?
Pies being your main food source I’m guessing.