Why Your College Application Was Rejected
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Didn't get into any of your dream schools? This may be why.
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00:00 - Intro
00:29 - The Entire Admissions Process is Shockingly Subjective
01:59 - Creative Applications and Oversharing Won't Help You
03:59 - Please Stop Trying to Cheat Or Bribe Us
05:11 - Don't Blame Your Rejection On Affirmative Action
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I worked in an admission office for four years and this brought up so many memories. My biggest tip is genuinely just send everything at once to the best of your ability. I can’t count the number of applications that got lost in the shuffle simply because everything was sent one piece of paper at a time and no one knew when it was actually all there. Until your application is complete, the only person who is looking at it is some work study kid with a dated stamp who sticks it in a drawer after. If they misfile something or don’t notice your year 9 transcript was the last thing you needed, too bad, you might never even hit the discussion table.
Do Americans know about digitally signed documents, databases, and things of that nature?
@@joaolemes8757 Some schools do use them, but some still go by paper everything to enable them to be accessible to those who don’t have computer/internet access. Personally my undergraduate school was entirely paper which I needed at the time since I lived where there was no such thing as a good signal (my parents still live there and weren’t able to get wifi access until about five years ago), while my graduate school had one central online database for most schools offering that degree that you could apply through, while others had their own mix of paper vs electronic. My nephew is applying now and he’s still finding the same thing all these years later
@@joaolemes8757I didn't submit anything physical, except maybe something with a signature. In 2005. Yes we do.
I didn't get accepted to the university I wanted, but it was literally due to a misunderstanding. I had taken some first year level courses at my local community college, and the university didn't realise they *were* university-level courses until I got off my butt, traveled a few hours to the school I wanted to go to, and calmly pointed out the error to the admissions officer myself. I think they were impressed that I put in the effort to do so. I got an acceptance letter about a week later, about 2 weeks before classes started.
Sometimes, all it really takes is proving you're serious about something, and will act like an adult.
Shame gotta be an adult for adults to do their job
It's amazing how oblivious I was in the 90's. I actually went through the college lists. Picked one, applied and got in. Just like that. The idea that I wouldn't get in never occurred to me. When my parents found out afterwards they were stunned... meh.
I did the same but it was more out of young arrogance definitely some slight obliviousness. I think was just like, I’m comfortably in the top 10% of one of the better public highschools and the place I applied to accepts like 50% of people so if get rejected I’m gonna have to reevaluate my life lol
Did 2 schools, got 2 schools. Meh.
He forgot the biggest tip: check if there are grammar mistakes. You can have the best application letter but if there is 1 mistake, it gets thrown away and declined directly.
I'm not 100% sure they are always that exacting. When I sent my application in to my school of choice, On my dad's advice I included a Walt Wittman quote. Years later, I realized that, in my use of it, I had interpreted it the way most people do (i.e. the WRONG way.) And they STILL accepted me. You'd think with the standards they had (It was an Ivy League school, and I was applying to the HARDER to get in branch.) mis-using a quote would be an automatic rejection, but it wasn't. (I also realized that, had I KNOWN what the quote was SUPPOSED to mean, I had one that would fit me much better already in my head, one by Poe.)
I got accepted into a top 10 university for a masters in physics…i spelt physics wrong.:…
@@retinapeg1846 hey we use symbols and go to 4 sigs here the fact you used the actual world is impressive
@Sojoboscribe not ALWAYS, but enough of them are (especially the older they get it seems lol) that it's just a good idea to make perfectly sure
not a chance
You can't "buy" your way into college:
1) Enroll in one of the rich private schools that we consider "feeder" schools to our institution. These high schools will typically have annual tuitions of between 45k - 60k. "A"s from these schools are weighted more heavily than "A"s from non-feeder schools.
2) These rich private schools will also generally inflate your grades in the last two years ensuring that students with generally good grades will demonstrate a "perfect" record. After all, they are paying customers.
3) Take a $3k - $5k standardized test prep course. These are money-back guaranteed to inflate your standardized testing scores. They will teach you every trick necessary to game the system (even down to special techniques for how to fill in answer sheet bubbles 70% faster than the average student. The cost of these courses are generally included in your private school tuition. The tutors will be brought to the school premises and time will be set aside during the school day for these classes to ensure that you don't have to put in any extra effort yourself.
3) Do NOT write your college essay on your own. The private school will have services for this sort of thing. You can give them a draft but they will dedicate a professional to help you rework it into something phenomenal. Let's be honest though: your rich parents are not gonna let you write the draft on your own either.
4) Don't worry about subjects with objective grading criteria (eg: math) The private school will set up a special remedial math class for struggling students with course material so basic a second grader could ace it. However, it will be reported on your transcript as a normal math class that you aced.
5) In your senior year, the school will organize for you 30 hours of athletic activity, 30 hours community service, and 30 hours artistic endeavour. You don't really have to do these things, someone will sign off on it. The point is, now you can apply to college with the claim that you pursued these diverse activities on your own and are a "renaissance man".
6) The private school will have at least 30 extracurricular clubs available for students outside of athletic, band, or debate teams. These clubs require no specific talents or competencies to join and attendance is not enforced. Greater application padders though. Definitely looks good to tell the University you were in Amnesty International _and_ the the GreenPeace club. Most students will pile on between 5 - 15.
7) You will get opportunities to meet privately with admissions officials from Ivy League schools because the private school's college guidance counselors are friends with them. You can begin to establish the sort of personal relationship that will ensure your application is distinguished from the rest of the pile.
8) The private school will set up community service "vacations" where students can visit Africa and pretend to build a school between safari tours and socializing. The will cost a few thousand dollars but also great application padding. Don't worry, a private construction company will really build the school after you leave.
9) _Now_ we can talk endowments, donations, and grants.
10) Be a legacy.
Yup. You can't buy your way into college.
And there's why so many rich kids end up drugged out loosers by their 30s ..if ur are not putting in the work it shows thru eventually..a classic sign of this Boris Johnson ...all of the above will be how he came up but when it came to using the "knowledge" he gained he's good to go ..turns out if u don't out in the work u turn into a bumbling moronic party animal ..who u know gets u in the door .what u know gets the work done
America is the Wal-Mart of the world. You can buy anything here. Also, you might get shot.
Bro, you typed and miscounted 11 points to a point they didn't make
The key word you missed was “Top” University
You really wrote all that while missing the entire point😂 He was saying you can’t bribe his position. You bribe the other people to get in.
I love the perspective where the admission officer is a worker like anyone else
I didn’t have to write an essay, or have an interview, but I did talk to someone on the phone. The majority of our conversation was focused on if I could afford tuition and how much financial aid I would need. When he found out I would need very little financial aid; our conversation quickly came to a close. And I got my acceptance letter the next week.
“Can’t buy your way in.” That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard! You literally PAY to go to college! Of course you can buy your way in! 🙄
I think he was probably talking about more prestigious schools. The schools that literally everyone is applying to. I didn't have to write an essay or anything else. I started in a community college and all I had to do of note was take a test which had an English and a math part. I basically aced the English part and I did okay on the math part. From there I went to an actual university.
Still doesn't explain how I got rejected by the University of Hawaii 6 times. lol Seriously, that was the ONLY school that rejected me and I still don't know why. I have my Masters's from another university and I guess it all worked out, but it's still confusing to me.
should have changed your last name to Leiman.
Some schools realize that you are using them as a "safety school" (YOU are too good for THEM), so they will reject you
@@laureljohnson5948 But Hawaii was never my safety school. That's exactly where I wanted to go.
I applied and never even got a response. That was my dream school
@@theonyxtaverno be clear you are from Hawaii lived there the whole time right? Cuz if you’re not it’s probably just that simple. If you live in Hawaii that would be odd
I was spared the headache of admissions thanks to a Texas law that required colleges to let in students who were the in top 10% of their graduating high school class.
Just add "for free" to that, and Texas could be brimming with the most well-educated people in America (and they wouldn't all be nepo babies!).
Odd how U.S. schools claw at every available dollar they can grab from students, only to spend it all on sports and nonsense (probably in a misguided attempt to make more money) instead of helping their students to learn more effectively
American education system will never stop to amaze me
Yes. USA.
THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY.
Edit: SARCASTIC
It's not the education system it's the attitude of those using it ..
@@PoM-MoM
Hey, wouldn't be much of a 'land of the free' without Conmen taking your stuff!
yo dad, because from funding (while somehow spending more per student on average) issues to way too many standardized tests the issue is attitude🤦♂️
@@lostbutfreesoul
I get it. They steal from me everyday and can never be prosecuted. Really!... I get it!
Regarding 'affirmative action', it might be fair to say that most colleges are trying to improve in fairness and aren't actively rejecting based on racial quotes. But it is unfair to tell Asian Americans that there is no problem at all when they find out that due to race-based admissions they have to score higher than white or black students on SATs and avoid appearing "too Asian" in their applications to have the same chance of being accepted.
That is why I gave this video a thumbs down. Not being totally honest. Having a passing score based on race. Is racial discrimination! That is like saying that a football team sucks so bad. That they get an automatic 5 touchdowns before the game even starts. If they didn't win by 6 or more touchdowns compared to the other team. Then they didn't really win. It results in people being more leery of going to a minority doctor or lawyer. Because you don't know if they really were college material. Unless they are Asian. Because, nowadays, they have to be the best of the best to even get in.
@@paying-for-freedom They don't have a required SAT score based on race. This is just something that people like to say. It's simply not true.
@@yessum15 True, but if you listened to the most recent Supreme Court case against UNC and Harvard, they do take race into account as part of their holistic admissions review. This means that a student, who is academically gifted but fits into certain stereotypes (like a Chinese American playing piano, violin, tennis, etc), could be rejected because of a lack of diversity in their application.
@@paying-for-freedom now fortunately the Supreme Court has overturned Affirmative Action places like Harvard declare they will find a workaround but the good news is people are really taking it seriously because despite what this video tells us
Affirmative action is literally discriminating against students based on Race so other Minorities can benefit because of their race not academic record you named a good case the amount of Asian students activly being discriminated against because " there's too many Asians in X school " not their fault they are on average better academically
Where is this true, do you have any sources or evidence for this? Also I think a huge problem a lot of people run into is sharing similar straits. I’m Asian American and I’ll be honest, a lot of my fellow AA classmates have similar stories and achievements to me. Top of the class, done at least 6+ years of sports/music, numerous clubs, and High GPA/Test Scores. And I would bet my heart that most of those essays were about being the kids of immigrants/the eldest daughter in a brown family/being Muslim after 9/11. I’m sure they weren’t “too Asian” they were just the same as other applicants.
"You can't buy your way into college" ... have you done a study on the graduates at Harvard, Princeton, Yale? Ever thought about why Phillips Academy can charge such a high tuition for...high school?
"What object in here can I hit you with?" My thoughts exactly about how I feel toward spending money for higher education.
It wasn't, but I'll watch anyway.
Same here.
Tips for applying?
Not a US-citizen, but personally, I think this whole system sucks. Anyone should be admitted. Period. If they aren't up to it, people will drop out or be thrown out soon enough. If you think that highschool grades do show how a student will do in college, just make it completely depend on that. Don't make students write you stupid letters that nobody wants to read in the first place.
Oh. And your colleges are stupidly expensive.
Nobody gets into top universities if they cannot do the work. Even if you are an athelete you still need at least a 3.7 and many AP classes.
@@duckman2480 That's not what I meant. (Although it's ridiculous that athleticism counts at all. Why should it?) I meant: Why the written essays that rich kids probably use ghost writers for?
Love these
For my application, I wrote about being a musical theater person (read: singer) losing my hearing and struggling to adapt to it. I fully ascribe my acceptance to that, since my grades weren't the best in the world. Even got a scholarship.
Saying that Affirmative Action means that a person won't be discriminated against because it's the law is like saying that the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment means that nobody would be discriminated against due to the color of their skin because it's the law.
It just doesn't work that way.
Thank you. This video has way too much "it's illegal, therefore it doesn't happen" going on.
@@aussiebloke609 The statistics do seem to suggest that on the whole colleges are complying with this law. They did seem to experience a drop in minority admissions followed by increased spending on minority outreach. That would suggest they are complying.
However, we should note that even when in effect, affirmative action didn't discriminate in the way that people imagine.
The colleges didn't t have to deny your application based on skin color because they had a glut of applicants of equal quality across multiple ethnicities.
So let's take some examples, we start with the premise that this is a predominantly white university:
*Example 1*
Applicant 1 is a white kid from a white suburb with straight As
Applicant 2 is a black kid from a white suburb with all As and 1 B.
They would select the white kid.
*Example 2*
Applicant 1 is a white kid from a white suburb with straight As
Applicant 2 is a black kid from a white suburb with straight As
They take the black kid on the basis that although the candidates are identical in every other way, his relatively uncommon experience as a minority might add some interesting value to his presence on campus.
*Example 3*
Applicant 1 is a black kid from a white suburb with straight As
Applicant 2 is a white kid from a farm with straight As.
They take the white kid on the basis that growing up on a farm is a relatively rarer experience than being a black kid from the suburbs.
*Conclusion*
So because of the fact that the colleges tended to have a glut of equally qualified candidates they were able to engineer a diverse campus by simply appending a value to relatively unique experiences (of which one might be being an ethnic minority) without explicitly discriminating based on ethnicity.
If they were discriminating based on ethnicity they would select the black candidate irrespective of what other candidates made the white candidates a rarer find than the black candidate.
They would also be replacing more qualified candidates of one ethnicity, with less qualified candidates of another. But in this case they are not. They were only considering candidate of equal levels of qualifications before moving on to consider non-grade based characteristics.
Doing this alone is sufficient to get the diversity mix they want, thus they dont have to resort to secretly violating the law under the table.
But again, even this practice is now illegal and it does appear that colleges on the whole are complying.
Fyi the Equal Rights Amendment was never passed into law. It stalled out during the State ratification process due to a conservative backlash.
@@yessum15 It may be that colleges are generally complying with the law, but this doesn't mean that the law is adequately protecting people from racial discrimination.
If Example 1 were true, then we wouldn't find that the average score of Asian Americans accepted is higher than white and black Americans accepted. Example 2 and 3 may be true, but introduces the subjectivity into the process that aims to be 'holistic' but due to bias - often subconscious - results in Asians being rated as having lower personality scores than other races and being rejected as a result.
@@yessum15 no, if farm kid went to a white rural school they’d probably weight his grades less heavily and take a white city school kid instead
The idea of having to apply to college sounds so weird to me, in here it's literally a first come first served system, then the whole thing is designed to filter out those who can't keep up during the first couple of years. Specially in private universities where having a lot of students who drop out early can even be kinda profitable.
Damn so accurate, especially for grad school
I'm sorely tempted to show this to my students
Fortunately the admissions of my third world college is only done by test. If there are only 300 places for applicants, the 300 most high scores take the places.
I've seen a girl who throw away an Iphone because you will be banned in the university if you are spotted with anything more that a pencil and eraser in the admission test.
I live in a 3rd world country, and I am glad that to enter the university that I wanted, all I had to do (after doing all the bureaucracy) was do one 1 test and get enough correct answers.
Idk, other countries have public and autonomous universities, usually the public ones are leagues ahead of the private ones
Someone turned down 10 white camels? To each their own I guess.
Bruh I finished college years ago and universities are still sending me shit in the mail
Do a Video on Interagators
This gives me vibes from Cracked's people watching era. Content cuts, really good animations, then nothing.
That last point was such an important one, thank you for that!
If you're talking about the 'affirmative action' point, I think it was the one I was most concerned that they didn't address fairly.
It might be fair to say that most colleges are trying to improve in fairness and aren't actively rejecting based on racial quotes. But it is unfair to tell Asian Americans that there is no problem at all when they find out that due to race-based admissions they have to score higher than white or black students on SATs and avoid appearing "too Asian" in their applications to have the same chance of being accepted.
I've never been to the USA. I have been to college and to university though. Getting in involved submitting my highschool transcripts to prove my grades were good enough, and that's it. Too many students applying to the same program at the same university? In my country, they'll just make the grade cutoff more strict instead of having anybody submit an essay on why they deserve an education. Are your grades good? You're in. Are your grades bad? Rejected. That's it.
Affirmative action was created by a law, the entire contents of which are public. You can see a description of how it works in Wikipedia or Britannica online. There's no "quota", and people really ought to know better by now.
Instead, if somebody suspects they were overlooked due to this policy/law, they can get the government to investigate. First, the government will look to see if the business is actually discriminating by comparing their minority percentage with that of the community -- if you business is in a city that is 25% black, then by chance alone your business should have a workforce that is 25% black by chance alone, within one standard deviation. You may think "well, the statistics will be skewed if the sample size is too small", which is why Affirmative Action only pertains to businesses with 125 workers or more.
That will merely open an investigation, at which point the government will look into applications for other sources of bias. If blacks make up 10% of your applicants in a city with a 25% black population, they will likely drop the investigation. So all these excuses for why "qualified applicants get overlooked" is part of the process of deciding whether a business should receive a huge fine and be required to hire minorities. So many people assume it starts and ends with a business "being under quota", a quota that never has existed.
I didn't get any of my applications rejected. I didn't even think that they would be.
Hey now, my college app got rejected cuz they didn’t think a kid who absolutely failed their state standardized tests wouldn’t be able to play guitar, build guitars or write music. I mean they weren’t wrong, but I did eventually try all those things and I can at least say I found other opportunities. Still suck though.
Poor Buffalo. It must have been the chicken wings there?!? 😂😂😂
"Hi! I'm "Doctor" Jordan Breeding!"
Or hear me out we could not have to subject (mostly) teenagers to a process that is flawed, and overly aggressive. Just to get an education
Wish I saw this video 15 years ago.
Yeah where I live college is ‘free’ (you pay more taxes so it’s kind of a pay forward between generations but we’re ok with it), however this made competition so strong I literally required straight A-s (5 here) in all core subjects, in 3 secondary subjects, intermediate level certificates of speaking two foreign languages and a win at a country level competition to ensure me getting in. The issue? I was privileged to have those by the time I had to apply, it was both expensive and super hard to get into a suitable preschool and high school. Sometimes it’s just flat-out insane
So I spent half my life giving whatever edge I can to others as a hobby free of charge if needs be.
hummm I feel like this will only apply to a type of college most can't afford in the USA. I was mostly Bs and Cs got accepted out of all 10 that I applied to. Note I went with the cheapest tuition out of the 10.
Today, colleges and universities are struggling with first-time, full-time enrollment. More students are attending trades, military, or just going straight into the workforce. The long story short is that in 2023, colleges are practically begging students to come to their schools. I'm not saying that the kid with a 2.4 is getting into Princeton, but that same kid is likely to get into a school that wouldn't have admitted him years prior.
BUUUULLSHIT I've been open about having found out I have ADHD ...I'm super highly qualified across the board and always had zero issues getting a job due to my high energy and motivation ..now I can't even get a rejection email or phone call ..best to keep everything to yourself
You seem to think that debunks something in the video.
You left one out.
Gratz v. Bollinger, 539 U.S. 244 (2003), was a United States Supreme Court case regarding the University of Michigan undergraduate affirmative action admissions policy. In a 6-3 decision announced on June 23, 2003, Chief Justice Rehnquist, writing for the Court, ruled the University's point system's "predetermined point allocations" that awarded 20 points towards admission to underrepresented minorities "ensures that the diversity contributions of applicants cannot be individually assessed" and was therefore unconstitutional.
[1]Gratz v. Bollinger, 539 U.S. 244 (2003).
Perhaps collage should just be free regardless if you suck or not
No, that would just be a lot of money wasted on sucky people who wouldn't achieve anything in college.
Nothing in life is "free". If you don't pay for your college education, other people will (via taxes) and they will NOT be either happy or likely to let that situation stand.
Plus, if EVERYONE got to go to college, then the degree wouldn't mean much in the workplace. You ALREADY need a Batchelor's to get pretty much anything other than a minimum wage job, whether you use those skills or not. How'd you like it so you need a Master's, or even a Doctorate, to get employed for anything? Make a level available to everyone no questions asked, and business es will just move up to the next level to "think out" the ranks they select from.
Are you saying an educated society would be bad I’m a little confused you do realize no one can get a job with their degree now and they have crippling student debt
@@stealeethridge7139 Not exactly. All I was saying is that the amount of education you need to GET job should be defined by the education you need to PERFORM that job. Simply saying "you need a college degree, but that degree doesn't have to have anything to do with the task you will be performing." doesn't make sense, precisely BECAUSE it means a lot of people going into massive student debt just to obtain a degree that does not have any meaning in their career.
I also think maybe we might do better to start targeting career tracks a LOT earlier in the process. While I am all for a "well rounded" education, the sheer AMOUNT of knowledge needed for most modern careers means there has to be some sort of tradeoff if we don't want to get to the point where a college education starts needing to take five, six or even more years. If people could be put on their career track a bit earlier they could enter college with a greater amount of that education and training under their belts. Also, colleges could specialize more (whether or not college itself should be free, things like travel, food and boarding probably should be.)
If you got the money go to College in a country were it is cheaper.
Well you passed and got excepted you just need a co-signer for the loan.
I couldn't find anyone to co-sign.
Awe that's a shame. Good luck out there.
Colleges want to accept students who are most likely to attend their school and stick around. Thus, they favor early admissions applicants. Colleges with a lot of students struggling academically in certain subjects (like science) will look for HS students who excel in those subjects.
Your best bet is think of what you want to do after graduating and pursue that thing by starting at a community college to complete intro courses at a fraction of the cost and less distraction. After a year or 2, transfer to a school offering that field. Colleges value community college grades more than HS grades because they are more predictive.
If you want to look for a college with more prestige or popularity as a HS student because of sports or academic reputation, you'll eventually learn that was marketing bunk that you fell for and are on the hook to pay back until your 50s. Maybe that stuff impresses friends and family, but so does a great job.
2:50 maybe stop asking for essays on students struggles then
Not just because they apparently don't like the oversharing. I would say most of these things that fall under "biggest challenges in my life" are just really not their business - not by a long shot. A relative of mine had to apply to a school with a biographical CV, in this case meaning that they had to write down stations of their life with a focus on their schooling and working experience so far. She wanted my feedback, since it she really wanted to be able to get accepted to that school. She was forced to explain her lack of a specific official degree by saying that she'd "gone through a traumatic experience" shortly before she was about to get that official degree, and that that traumatic experience had severely limited her ability to focus on school. I am not going to say here what that traumatic experience was, but if try to think of the top three things it could have been, it's most likely one of them.
Geez...Is it that hard to make it to a class at 8am? That should be easy for most students who take a bus and wait on said bus until school start at 8:05 and the students barely get there at 7:45 to 7:55 am...that even if they have time to socialize on get breakfast.
Tricky with housing prices making you live an hour and a half away by bus, yeah, then it's hard to make 8am
Yeah 8 am classes are dumb, students perform worse have worse attention but probably more than anything the skip rate is probably 30% higher than other class times. Professors (the old morning people ones) literally fight over the 8 am class time lol
Matt has these many examples, and he can only skim through applications... who tf is putting their childhood trauma as the first thing on their application damn
It's far more common than you think. I believe the term is "pity points." Just because something may work in traffic or criminal court, does NOT mean that trauma dumping on strangers with some authority is acceptable or will be well received.
So best bet is blunt, to the point, and don’t suck
Seeing this right after being rejected form a university lmao
This all baring if your even lucky enough to go to school. College in America is a joke.
He's right though... people who suck SHOULD be able to go to a university for free, I don't like how this was made to sound unreasonable...
Fully agree! Maybe not with the “any university I want” bit but yeah, even sucky people should get to go to college for free. It may even help them suck less!
I graduated in 2003, so maybe things have changed but I watched a group of my friends/acquaintances get rejected from UVA while my other friends got accepted despite only one of them having a GPA anywhere near the first group. First group was strictly white kids, and the ones who were accepted were almost exclusively black though there were a few other varieties of brown in there as well. It was super fucking weird to watch happen. The shittiest part? The ones who got accepted didn't really want to go there and almost all went to ODU, GMU, VCU, or Brown. They just applied to apply, but watching a group of 20-30 white kids all with GPAs over 3.7 get rejected while 15-20 minority kids with GPAs hovering around 2.2 (they weren't stupid just lazy students and such) get accepted was weird.
Though I will say one of my white friends had ONLY applied to UVA like a moron, so when he got rejected he was super devastated and angry...but I told him he was a fucking idiot for only applying to the one school anyway and he kinda deserved to be rejected for doing something so stupid anyway. He eventually just got a late acceptance from one of the other colleges around here but still. What a moron.
So maybe the application reviewers DO reject things based on their personal beliefs which include race. That doesn't make it Affirmative Action's fault of course, but it IS a handy thing to blame it on if you don't care about being correct or have the resources to find out WHO rejected the application in the first place.
why don't you just make an exam and let the numbers say who gets into college
I got accepted though
All the movies always have people "applying" for college. But every college one ever been to you just sign up. Is this a real thing? I'm very confused...I thought it was just made up by Hollywood
This video shows my applying to colleges sucks, it’s not a meritocracy no matter what they try to convince us. Legacies giving a like $5K donation will get them in most anywhere lol
Like employer's, your college choice also does an online search for ALL your social media networking and personal web sites searches that you've agreed to be able to be viewed because you were too lazy to actually read the full TOS agreement on each and every phone and device APP you've EVER loaded on to them.
Yeah.
Goodluck with your future...
hopefully your parent's have a basement for you to live in.
“Personal website searches” I find this extremely hard to believe considering that would mean most accepted applicant’s would be mostly from rural areas. Where did you get your information?
@@AizakkuZ
Read the TOS agreements for ALL APPS and then MOST give permission / access for the APP's to store user's information.
A 30+ year employee of a major corporation was fired for his searches stored in the files and texts on their PERSONAL PHONE and laptop devices. They used work wifi and the info was stored there and their device ID information and ISP addresses and GPS locations.
C'mon. You actually had to ask ME.... an old lady... THAT QUESTION? WOW!
@@PoM-MoM Yeah they can store it and generally even allow it to be shared, but that cannot be extrapolated to all private college institutions and all private companies.
Well that is because they used work wifi, whatever he was doing he probably wasn’t supposed to be doing at work. They can track everything done on their wifi and do whatever with that data as well.
It is just good practice to ask for a source and remain critical of anything read online, if there is no source ensure that the person is credible within the field that they are talking about.
Probably why I'm struggling to get a job .no social media ..employers can't pre spy on me ..I got nufing ..not even fb it insta ...lots of ppl don't
@@PoM-MoM They don't get it. CPU's, motherboards, graphics cards and so on. Are all serialized nowadays. The serial numbers are broadcast to the internet every time you go online. IP addresses don't matter as much as they use to. I feel sorry for the kids that will grow up to become politicians in the future. Every curiosity that they explored or posts they made as a child online. Will be used to destroy, control or blackmail them in the future by big tech or their evil clients. I have been a computer tech since the 1980's. I have seen what is happening. The intel and AMD engines. A CPU core that are built into the CPUs that the operating system can't even see. But have kernel access to your hardware and internet. All before the OS even loads.
What about that Asians case
Dr. Jordan Breeding is that you?
Yeah they have a backlog of voice recordings I did
we have Entry Exams
Good thing Hollywood as well doesn't do affirmative action with their shows and movies.
I agree, just because he sucks doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to go to any public college he wants for free.
The specific college being full or a
number of other reasons are fine.
But not just because he sucks.
I'm pretty sure "White Camels" meant smokes, not the animal
I understand no means no. So please don't be weird or judgmental
I didn't even write one
"Loads of completely irrelevant stuff that we never have time to read. Like the guy who sent in a certificate on finger painting."
Aw, but you know he sent in that certificate..
Or just don’t go to college as it’s a huge waste of time?
Then why would the Supreme Court just rule against affirmative action if it is inconsequential? 🤔lol dislike
Dammit, beat me to the Punch there XD
Ok cracked used to be about a bunch of man children talking about children cartoon.
And somehow this is more childish in term of humor.
Like teenagers trying to be edgy
Thank God I never went to college. They are just training camps to better serve a master. No thanks I rather drag like a turtle thru life but still get to reach my goals.
Don't ask about affirmative action in India in any case lolll
It's arbitrary and biased, got it
Colleges don't discriminate based on race because that is illegal, and colleges NEVER break the law. Just ask Mindy Kaling's brother.
Hmm, a lot of talk about camels in this video.
Car
How do you explain vastly different SAT scores by some off these groups you mention get no special treatment? Do you know there is a Supreme Court Case to be decided this year on this very issue? Once you subjectively award bullshit points to one group, but not another, and then "objectively" admit or deny the end result is the same as quotas.
I'm sorry Ms Shimada, maybe Ivory League is not for you. Both your parents are from Japan?
Thats it Im goibg trans to get into an Ivy league college and detrans once Im in.
They are asking for it.
Get a plumber certificate, instead....
Curry camels
But you'll take a trans man
Thank you for the information about affirmative action!
No one ever "takes another person's spot"...especially if they are not qualified (the sense of entitlement in that type of misrepresentation of facts is mind-blowing).
Even the legacy/nepo babies are not taking anyone else's spot...there are a certain number of positions in entering college admissions that are held just for them
Regarding 'affirmative action', it might be fair to say that most colleges are trying to improve in fairness and aren't actively rejecting based on racial quotas. But it is unfair to tell Asian Americans that there is no problem at all when they find out that due to race-based admissions they have to score higher than white or black students on SATs and avoid appearing "too Asian" in their applications to have the same chance of being accepted.
The fact you have ironically disqualify a real unfair practice, as "taking someone else's spot" says all it needs to. Both Asian and white people to a lesser extent do see unfair practices when it comes to all sorts of processes. It's not "taking someone's spot" because no one is owed anything. But it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. How about we just DON'T consider race as a whole? Uh duh...Not being racist, crazy, right?
@John Fisher: Asian-American students are not "losing their spot" to White or Black applicants with lower qualifications. They are not being accepted due to the fact that THAT specific college already has accepted so many Asian-American students with similar backgrounds as themselves.
Furthermore, we cannot forget that there was a time in the not so distant past of this country where OVER-qualified people of color could NOT get into institutions of higher education, get certain jobs (police, doctor, etc.), and live in certain areas. These injustices took place for 200+ years within this nation's boarders; the so-called remedy was in place for approximately 40 years (and in most instances, not being used properly/as intended), but NOW some people want to say "that's enough" and "that the system is not fair"...ok 😉
@@laureljohnson5948 Still trying to draw arbitrary qualifications with this "taking someone's else's spot" strawman... That's like saying "racism doesn't exist, because no one is lynching anyone right now". Those aren't the same things. It shouldn't matter how many "similar backgrounds" there are. That's called a racial quota and exactly what you were trying to disprove.
Also still extremely racist of you Laurel and everyone has been treated unfairly at one point or another. That's not an excuse for you to be racist noooow. Two wrongs don't make a right...
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@@laureljohnson5948 What you are claiming is the case is not mutually exclusive with what you are claiming is not the case. It may be that a college has "accepted so many Asian-American students with similar backgrounds as themselves". But if an Asian student applies and has a higher - but not enough higher - score than an otherwise identical White or Black applicant and the Asian applicant is rejected because of their race, then they have been racially discriminated against and the college has done so while accepting "White or Black applicants with lower qualifications".
I'm not sure what you mean by saying that some people are saying both "that's enough" and "the system is not fair". I know some claim that the system is fair so nothing else needs to be done, and some who claim that the system is not fair so more needs to be done; but I don't know what what it means to say that the system is not fair but that nothing ought to be done about it?
It really does make zero sense starting this thing off saying that the whole process is subjective purely opinion based and ending it with also race is never a factor and there’s no discrimination against any race. It was like you went so far to defend affirmative action you denied the existence of racism at all
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I sort of don't understand how you can say a person's spot was not unfairly taken from them when your examples of mental fortitude were being poor in a poor town or growing up being a trans-man in an all-girls school, but having someone's father shoot themselves in the face in front of their eyes doesn't count.
The country is America.
If the application talks about surviving a School Shooting they might be considered higher, *might,* but do you know how many people die to gun-related events in this country every day?
The first thing raised in the video was the concept of bias within the reviewed and I think you hit on a really big one here. Due to the frequency of gun-related deaths within America it is no longer considered 'shocking' to the American people. There simply is no real sympathy for having a relative die from gun violence in this country, absolutely no shock that it occurred if you told people about the event. Thus the same lack of shock or concern will be felt by a stranger reviewing your application....
That is a bias, and one you will be hard pressed to find lacking in America.
@@lostbutfreesoul ah no, unless your a sociopath, a parent committing suicide is very clearly traumatic.
Cartoons, shorts and thumbnails, the content from this channel is declining, unsubscribing
Bye John Smith we will miss you
8 am ? Wtf my earliest class was 6:50😢 and affirmative action taking a slot is a thing if the amount of slots haven't improved
It is important. Thanks
None of mine were rejected. 7/7
You started out by saying ho subjective the process is and then end on a rant about how race has no effect on the process? An admissions officer can't subjectively choose to show special treatment to minority candidates if they feel that's right, huh? Interesting take.
If you a woman you're in, and probably for free. If you a man... good luck. Don't waste your time with college anyway. Second biggest waste of money in your life men, second only to marriage.
??? Are you mentally Ill? 😂