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0:00 - Intro
0:56 - Best Ranged
9:39 - Best Melee
16:13 - Best Healers
22:37 - Recap
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Hey guys, we're super excited for the upcoming release of TBC so let us know in the comments if you're interested in seeing more TBC content here on the Skill-Capped channel! 😎
I’d love to see a deep dive into how to make trash tier specs (Outlaw, Demo, Fury...) work in arena. What are their strengths and weaknesses and what would Blizz need to do to buff them. Maybe even give a challenge to your pros to climb with those specs in arena to a certain rating.
Can't wait! Say hi to Cel for us OG Firetree friends
Yes
just say it lock and drood are the undisputed kings of arena
I realize Im quite off topic but do anyone know a good site to watch new tv shows online ?
Nice overview, I really like it.
as someone who got gladiator in tbc playing draenei resto shaman i think this video triggered latent ptsd
What is the cinematic at the start and end of the video from?
Great insightful vids but still playing what I feel is the best melee in TBC, well at least most fun. Death Wish Prot War for HUGE Juicy Shield Slams (made famous by Taith), you are also a utility giant with 6 second dispel from shield slam (good against priest shield, druid Hots) You have 3 stuns, concussion blow, revenge, intercept. You also have a silence and pummel, with disarm/fear which means you can be just outright obnoxious if played well. So it's warrior with control since your Prot and still getting the burst due to shield block value/deathwish.
I'm experimenting something similar but with 2h and mortal strike instead, macestun and stunherald. It's pretty strong in duels, so many stuns and last stand + trinket.
I'll try this one you are suggesting too
Any videos of this ?
I'm playing a rogue for the first time ever in honor of reckful. I was/am a big fan of his. Such a great guy.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
he also played warrior in tbc ;)
@@nhyze boy, ive got a lot of work ahead of me haha.
What addon is he using for that UI??
Whose Gerrate?
I can't wait to play a ret paladin, 100% only because stormherald exists and ret seems too silly with it
the return of stunherald
dont rely on private servers, where ret is min maxed.. u need that BIS gear and weapon to deal serious dmg with your tiwsts. not saying u cant, but its way harder than all other melees
Cant wait to disc priest in tbc
May I ask what addon that warlock KLIMPB was using? The status bars look so clean.
Try arenalive maybe? It gives me the same vibe, not sure if it has a way to change the style fully though.
Klimp's addon pack is available for download.
RIP hunters and paladins
anyone know addons list from warlock ui in this video ?
Oh my god. Thank you :O
Hey guys, what would be the best 2v2 double DPS comp with rogue, between SL/SL and Spriest?
Without a doubt SL/SL. It has zero counters except ret/rsham. Spriest rogue is still good though, but lock rogue is insane.
WTF IS THIS UI !!! is this from TBC ? omg soo clean, howd i get one !!
Rip Hunters and Paladins.
Highest rated 2v2 comp in TBC was Hunter Druid, I'm sure Hunter will be fine in 2's at least.
@@Radaney I've seen a video of a BM Hunter winning arena by typing /cast Arcane Shot etc and winning easily lmao
Hunters are broken
@@LEK 😂🤣😂
Link pls
I hate that I love this game 🤣😂🤣
@@amandaspear6148 czcams.com/video/RsVtZEicTj8/video.html
Hunters should do very well on TBC. I used to play on 2000+ rating with hunter in team (2's). That was on 2.4.3 tho (season3/4), not season1 like it's on classic now. But I still think hunters will be ok.
moonkin resto is my battle ground build
16 years of sub playing warrior/warlock , not gonna ever change that regardless of tier lists!!!
Had a resto druid alt in vanilla, kinda gravitated to arenas im tbc/wotlk.
Returned late 8.3 after a 10 year pause and still love to do arenas with him! 😁
Mage here. Same for me lol
Ok
Nothing bad about a warrior or warlock brother.
2 classes that have not once been bad ! Good choices
No Pallies? Was thinking Ret/Resto or even Ret/Resto/War or even Ret/Resto/ Rogue? Anyone have any input?
Ret/Rsham is decent in two's, three's was mostly Ret/War/rdruid or rsham, think druid is generally stronger for 3's. Ret/Rogue/Healer can work but is harder to play.
Ret/sham 2s is good prob will be at its peak in season 3 and 4. Ret/war/rsham and ret/enhance/rdruid are the most fun ret comps in 3s IMO. Both are 2k+ viable and will be at their strongest in the later seasons from my experience
@@MetalMatt2011 Ret/warrior/rsham is superior in everyway, actually it’s not a viable comp with any other healer.
Anyone know the song name ?
I'll play resto druid for sure, but I was wanting to give ele shaman a try as well.
This is a true story:
I played sl warlock/resto Druid back in s4 and one night we had a game against a double healer comb resto Druid/disc priest which lastet almost 2 hours!!!! But we finally won. Before the match we said. Yea, one more... after the match it was 4am 🤣👍🏼 still have a screenshot of that!
Wasnt it a draw after 45 min?
@@rbzgodx2346 nope, back in the day there weren’t any time restrictions in arena!
@@rbzgodx2346 I just looked it up...it was early wrath when they changed it to 45min!
Holy shit that’s crazy.... I cant even imagine
Hey guys,
Just wanna know if double dps rogue warri could be a Good 2v2 combi or is it just trash? Thx guys:)
Trash
@@WarcraftTavern thx for ur reply ...how About ret pala + rogue? Should give More support and utility?
@@Bakuhats Ret + rogue can be quite strong
Better off running feral/rogue. Warrior/rogue don’t have much synergy together; your warrior will just get CC and kited while the other team focuses you.
With Druid, you will both have the benefit of double stealth opener, more CC, and some heals if needed
early tbc the resilience did not reduce dot damage. It was changed later on.
tbc classic based on latest patch balance
Thumbs up this comment to tell skillcapped to make TBC CLASSIC pvp videos on CZcams !! Not just retail we Want TBC CONTENT!!
Garrote, pronounced "Guh-Rot" not Carrot with a G haha, very good video tho, nice to see Skill Capped putting out TBC vids.
rogue, i want those glaives
same but you know how low chance its going to be :(
Really well made video
klimp, mir, azie, uzb, some fucking private servers legends here!
mir did great on blizzard server too
Thanks for the info time to make an annoying rouge!
I remember Elemental Shamans being pretty ridiculous in PvP. Elemental Overload, Nature's Swiftness AND Elemental Mastery
I never played an Ele shaman in tbc, but I remember jn Cata they were strong af.
THey are the easiest class to shut out in the game. You won't really get a single cast off outside of NS/EM.
Going to play Feral druid
EXACTLY where the hack is feral! best class ever :D
I Will start now in tbc and i love feral, but everybody says to use a Hunter or rogue
BM hunter. Just dps and chill
Druid alt. Just fly and farm and chill.
S priest im super excited
What about Boomkin? Is it at least viable in pvp?
It's broken 🤣 expecially restokin
Strong as fuk look it up man
Can't wait to play double healer warr in 3s, and play some 5s!!!
feral druid and sub rogue the only classes i plan on playing
What kind a rogue?
@@rquintero3 Didn't he say?
@@criosray sorry I meant like swords or dagger rogue but probably swords
@@rquintero3 dagger sword or dagger mace Is what i lean to
@@Nightreaper86 I was dagger for awhile but now that we gotta go back to questing. I’m probably going back to swords. Only thing is I don’t have any good swords. Just my dal rends cuz I was dagger ofc
waiting on the battlegrounds version.
Spriest/frost mage prob s tier
Rogue/feral A tier
Hunter is really good in BGs aswell
Well since battlegrounds are not as important in bc as they are in classic and since the best pvp gear is in arena, you can pick and play whatever you want in there tbh
Ele shaman is really good in bg as well crazy for kill targets
Mage!!! The burst dmg
Surprised Shadow priest is highlighted over hunter
Forget what video it was in but Hunter was dead last every season in TBC by the official stats. Mainly due to dead zone first few seasons and likely the Meta. So in actual TBC Hunter wasn't represented at all. Things are different this time around.
@@WhatIfTheories Different as in dead zone fixed?
I don't even play TBC I just like your edits
Go back to retail boy
Do I play warrior or rogue tough choice
Bard
Like how you said Mages are never bad. They have never been bad indeed. Always been Top 3 (dps) class in every single expansion.
Ghost crawlers favorite for years
best channel ever
Feral wouldn’t be better than enh for arenas?
Feral has a high skill cap, most people can't tap into the true potential of feral. It will always be looked down on because it's not a faceroll spec.
@@jordt7764 it will be much stronger now! blizz confirmed power shifting off GCD, they tried it on beta... u can 100-0 someone in 5 seconds now..
paired with a rog , hes stunnlocking and feral is pumping silly dmg thanks to power shifting with wolfhelmet from lvl 40 classic
I was thinking same thing enhance shamans lacked defensive CD and were super squishy back in tbc
@@kylehaun8192 Shamanistic Rage? If you think feral isn’t squishy you are going to get a rude awakening.
Anyone know if you can just pvp for gear ? I can’t remember and I have no interest in doing TBC raiding again. Just pvp 😊
Yeah, grind honor for off pieces, arena for conquest for the main pieces. They will be gated by arena rating though
Back in the day you could, but they are changing it this time. From season 1 arena gear will require rating
Doesn't hunter easily slap any of those range you said? Id melt through priest and mage easily
yes lol
Yeah hunters were super strong
in duels? of course ...... in combs? definitely not, what can they provide? Only viper sting, nothing else
@@eltoro3077 respect bro
As tbc affli warlock you only need fear and drain mana and some damage. 2200 rating
Been contemplating my class choice. Everyone's told me afflic locks are OP as fuck.
But being a mage at heart, I wanna pump fire spec.
But cant decide haha.
i will play druide 39/0/22
Having a hard chosing between Shadow Priest or Warlock!
I'd go spriest they can heal as well and disc is 2nd best healer
Go warlock. Sp is better in wotlk cuz dispersion and psychic horror, but in tbc , sp is kinda weak
You like healing too? If so go priest. You want pure dps and that's it go lock. Priest is a really good healer for tbc pve, also shadow is decent in pve. Lock is beast in both of them, but pve rotation is boring. Shadowbolt spam.
@@Ralpo. not to come off as a dick but we are in the comment section of class tier list for PVP. I dont think anyone here cares too much how "fun" their pve rotation is gonna be.
@@beyOndzZz "Yea play lock like 85% of players in TBC"
It's called death coil, not mortal coil in tbc I think =)
Rogue/warrior/Priest Viable ?
all depends on the players skill not on the classes
@@tarikhansen5966 false
@@Enhanced94 if u think only meta works u have never played tbc.
I'm going to play enhancement
Warlocks can drain mana in classic as well it's not a new ability.
its just more useful in arena and kinda pointless in most classic scenarios
Really surprised Enhancement made the list lol. Then again it only competes really with Ret Paladin and Feral Druid. So it’s not that surprising I suppose.
I think feral Druid is better than enh ull see killer ferals in tbc classic since skill cap is high for that
Ret is way stronger than feral or enh .
Way more dmg
@@thomasdaniels6247 way more dmg is wrong.
1. U need to always Twist to do dmg
2. U need better gear than the others
3. U need an excellent Weapon
4. U wont play vs noobs in classic tbc ( and this is the biggest issue )
@S w u do realize that people played bc way after expansion was gone and experienced with every single thing? besides that those guys are rank 1 player every season so i doubt that theyre wrong... but u do u i guess
@God Lee repentance , hammer stun , pally stun, flat DR , freedom , is way better than a druid
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drain mana has been around since vanilla and it's deathcoil not mortalcoil kek
oi - i'm gonna play a hunter.. have to try to get glad on the underdog arena class
@anony mous BM hunter is OP and way stronger than spriest (And arguably mage). This list is pretty bad imo. Telling people that Warrior, Enhance Shaman, Resto Shaman, and Shadow Priest are "Top Tier" and "Meta" is leading lambs to slaughter xD
@anony mous I got nearly gladiator in TBC as an 11 year old on BM Hunter. 18 second CC immunity for you and your pet + the steady shot macro. Also Intim stun + traps, and mana drain. Too strong of a kit, especially compared to spriest and enhancement shaman
BM hunter is where it’s at. I got 1800 running hunt/rdruid in 2s the only cringe comp to go against was a hunt/rdruid mirror bc you knew the game was going to be at least an hr long
@@Frequently1 exactly. I played in S3 as rdruid warrior. BM Hunter rdruid was us but better.
Also, SV/MM + R druid is just as good as any other comp in 2s.
Remember 3 beast master hunters just destroying anything for the 1st month or 2 in tbc lol
Yea, it's gonna happen again, it's unstoppable unless you have 3 pom pyro burst mages or 3 ele shamans, everyone else is fucked until resilience. 5 BM hunters might be good even in later seasons.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 that's just gross 🤣😂🤣
Mage or lock or priest it seems this whole xpac
What nameplate addon is this?
At czcams.com/video/1UPQjO3CaYs/video.html in the middle
what about hunters in TBC ?
Amazing, but requires more skill. They destroy rogue/mage teams, but get destroyed by warlocks.
Back when TBC was live Hunters were the most played Class and the least represented in high level arena.
@@NoUploadsEver Dont forget hunters had DEADZONE until patch 2.3
SL/SL warlock is the best forever King in TBC
Shockadin!!!
tru
this guide is accurate for resil capped meta, but what about season 1 when no one has resillience ? resto druid is considered worst healer and hpal is bes, bm hunter definitely a contender for strongest range
Hpal is absolute garbage, even in s1 wtf are you talking about lmao. Let me guess, you got your info from 2007?
@@Dan-Martin i played with hpals in s3 to 2300+ in 5s and 3s idk what ur talking about lol they not as good as rdruid but they def not absolute garbage. just watch in s1 when lifebloom cant heal through literally any damage
@@zarcodine Nobody cares about your 2008 tbc experience, literally nobody was good back then. You should have played on the Endless tournament realm to get a feel of what to expect in tbc meta. Hpal is absolute trash, and can’t heal for crap.
@@Dan-Martin youre right that people in general are better at the game than they were back then no doubt thats true.
but saying i should check out endless shows me youre ignoring the entire point of my original comment. which is that season 1 before resillience cap is an entirely different meta from when players can hit resillience cap
endless plays on season 3, everyone has full s3 /t6 gear. when no one has resillience cap in season 1 in full honor blues or in s1 epic sets im telling you even a resto druid with full hots not getting dispelled and free hardcasting regrowth/healing touch will not be able to heal through any 2 dps with 50% heal reduction on the target.
the gameplay is so much faster that it is easily decided by the number of saves you have vs the enemy, in 2s for example where a resto druids only save is NS and trinket vs hpal having sac bop freedom divine shield and trinket it is very easy for hpal to outlast
furthermore only the schweatiest and most autismo of tryhard nerds have been seeking out tbc private arena realms over the last decade and while those players certainly will stomp up the ladder and the top players from those realms will very likely be gladiator, the meta there is not going to reflect the real ladder where the vast majority of people are not that dedicated or skilled. its the same as in any competitive game, pro meta is different from pub meta
@@zarcodine I stopped reading after you were talking about resilience. You can easily hit 400+ resil in s1. Healers don’t need to cap they don’t even bother caping in s3 or 4 gear, like I said if you played on Endless you would know. You’re going to look back at what you thought and cringe out, I promise you hpal is absolute dirt.
I'll play Shaman.
1. beast mastery hunter (absurd dmg with powerful pet) 2. destro warlock (no need to explain) 3. subtletly rogue (its very annyoing with ''Sap'' and is very powerful)
trolling lol
People are gonna be underestimating how strong ele shamans are gonna be in 5v5s
Warlock is the only heroic class from Vanilla all the way to WLK. I will vote Warlock is the strongest range class in TBC. I remember watch hoodrych's TBC video, he has to sunder armor the warlock first like facing a boss.
yea mage isn't good exactly every patch xD, you mage player or what?
Btw what are you talking about? Sunder armor is standard, Hoodrych is actually in this video and sunder armoring everything, priests / rogues, this is what you do with rage in longer games, will be fun facing warriors with Stunherald or Sword extra swing specc oneshotting ppl :S
you forgot to mention that sl needs insane gear to shine - prior to that it's suffering and everyone can just ignore you especially if there are dispels
Shaman because I wanna feel important and useful
No huntard on this list?
Resto Shamans may be niche healer like he said but for someone like Skill Capped with his 100k+ subs, to not even mentioning the "Shadowplay" comp with R-Shaman is...
SP + (UA) Lock + R Shaman even rivals the common meta slaves RMP to a decent degree. Shadowplay 3vs3 is a Gladiator contender, hands down.
As for me, being 41yo today (was the odd ball 25yo in Vanilla, most were 9-15) I can't no life the game so playing on PvE server now.
Still gonna do some PvP Arena and BGs eventually but that will either be Mage or Rogue I guess.
You missed elemental shaman.
2v2 is all about overpowered resto druids
What about hunters ? :(
hunter is insane in 2v2, little weaker in 3v3, Rdruid/H or you can try disc/h for faster games, with priest tho you will be having much more issues against rogues which ladder will be full of
Still more fun and better then all of retail. I’ll take it
Seems like RMP meta as usual. Was hoping for Monks and DH to become meta in TBC
Don't be ridiculous! Clearly DK should be the most meta TBC class.
Yea cant wait to play DK in TBC
@S w think we all arent very serious xD
"rmp meta as usual"
tbc is where rmp originated from, welcome home (;
Early wotlk scumbag dk taking anything from hellfire. Like all their starting shit was better.
Ah yes, Resto. Shaman no.3 healer....that's biggest weakness, is their healing.
Just requires more skill, though fake casting is not that hard.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Have fun fake casting with curse of tongues on you :)
@@poppy1x3 that's why you run shatterplay.
Funny how you pick both enh shammy and resto shammy when ret and holy pala are better.
10:20 stong rogue dmg)) -20% druid hp for 10sec stunlock
Where are the hunters?
You did hunter dirty
Yes tbc
I play with shaman
I will main havoc and level unholy and ww as alts
I'm just raidlogging atm if someone here in the comments still plays PvP in shadowlands is it still as bad with boosters as it was 2 months ago? I was thinking about trying to get 2400 but last time I was pushing I was against r1s every other game.
Yeah it's absolutely not worth it and I'm mad at myself for still playing.
@obrovský mozek I mean my irl friends and guild has never played for as long as we have this patch and we have played togheter on and off since wotlk. First time we are progressing on mythic and we still have 20 people coming on every Sunday and Monday to raid so I can't see what you are seeing. PvP is terrible though, alts get outgeared like crazy on higher mmr on my main I'm stuck at 2280 and if I start queing again after fat break I will drop like crazy. Boosters have never been this common, I used to see it in bfa 8.3 when I got to around 2300-2500 but it's not as common as now and especially not as common in the 1200-2100 brackets. My only problems with the game right now is boosting, no new content for way to long july next patch??? and I'm burned out for playing to long. If it wsnt for boosting and gear difference in pvp and no new raid for this long the game would be very good except that I'm burned out from playing it to much.
You did not talk about hunters but in season1 hunters are pretty strong due to pet damage
After that they are still very strong but skill required is higher and you also needs good team mates.
Hunter is def very strong for people wondering .
They are not strong in arenas in open world and pve yeah
Rogue because of WPvP
Feral gaming
Nelf Hunter
Human Rogue
Dwarf Warrior
Gnome Mage
when u insta see rog mage is good u need to vormit cause its free r1 every season
Rogue/mage was never free r1 in tbc and wotlk. They are good but very skill heavy. Most players are uncapable of using them to their full potential.
People are sleeping on feral druids
drain mana isnt new in tbc lol. drain mana is already a thing in classic
Gonna go mutilate rogue. I know it's not as good as sub but I just remember melting people with it and I loved the playstyle.
I wish that more people had your mentality.
@@joshuaroe1402 PoM Pyro here.
I use to play Mutilate back in the days and it was so fun, but tried it again for experimentation purposes on endless and man it feels much weaker then i remember it to be. People are in general more experienced these days. You are going to be kited to oblivion...it's very VERY niche spec. Only good side or pros aside from many cons is that it is insanely good against Discos and RDruids...especially RDruids, it literally melts them.
should do a lisst for word pvp an bgs....
World pvp and bgs everyone is an idiot so literally anything is viable. WHy do you need a guide for that? If you are a casual just have fun, it's really simple.
I thoguht Hunter was really good?
They are niche. They play mana drain comps in 2v2 and 3v3. That's about all they do.
i skipped the mage section
Corpses - undead mage 😉
when you guys change this music? lol
What song is it