To anyone that seems s bit confused. This is a standalone XR2 powered Android HMD. Similar to Quest 2 or Pro but with better hand tracking that also works in the dark thanks to IR lights, two color cameras for true stereoscopic passthrough with low latency (photon to photon), has an open platform (you can access as ll sensors, so great for research and experiments), and no data mining from social companies, run and designed from France within EU (made in Taiwan and assembled in China). Controllers are in development and will come later, and also be compatible with the next version.
Thanks for your coverage. Seems like you provided the most exhaustive VR coverage at CES 2023. This is the only coverage on Lynx at the show on youtube this far.
I knew it was better than Quest 2 when I backed it, great to hear it's also better than the Quest pro. Combining that with knowing the platform is as open as it can be I'm stoked to get mine soon (backer nr 9)
I'm really glad you went to CES and are giving us these no BS explanations of your experiences with these new VR headsets. I've been waiting a long time to possibly upgrade from my Quest 1, and this information is super useful. Thanks for all your hard work man!
I think these are the forerunners of future AR glasses that we expect to see once technology gets smaller, more efficient to wear. What these do will eventually morph into actual glasses. Very cool to see such interesting headsets like the Lynx R1.
After you saying you are both awkward, I can't ignore it I m laughing every time you show an Interaction of you two, thanks for the amazing videos brad,. Love from Greece
I backed the lynx day 1. I've been looking forward to hearing your impressions of the device. I'm suuuper curious about the lenses and I'm even more excited to get mine in the mail based on your overview. Stan says they're working on storefront and software compatibility to wrap things up for the main launch. It's been a long wait but it's very impressive what they've done as a start-up. Oh, and it will also have controller support in addition to the hand tracking. Thanks for covering this Brad!
I backed the Kickstarter as well. Really excited when it finally gets delivered. I am glad to hear the mixed reality is better than quest Pro even though it's cheaper than the pro.
@@sonicsnake44 I'm excited for the mixed reality aspect but honestly my biggest gripe with the VR space as a whole is the dominance of fresnel lenses. They destroy the illusion of 3d space in my opinion. I have 3 headsets so far, the psvr, the Oculus rift, and the hp reverb g2 and despite the extreme gap in resolution between the psvr and g2, I genuinely find that the combination of the oled display and pancake lenses makes psvr the more tangible VR experience. Even when I run a game at max resolution on the g2 with super crisp definition, I still feel like I'm looking at screen with a 3d effect rather than feeling immersed in the space. Psvr may be comically low res by comparison but it still feels more like I'm IN the game world. Anyway, all this ranting is to say that I'm super excited to find out how the 3d-ness of virtual space feels with these new lenses. And from Brad's description, it sounds promising.
Thank you, your coverage of VR at CES has been amazing. I've been waiting for someone to post a video about Lynx R1 at CES. It's a headset I'm seriously looking forward to. Unfortunately I didn't have the money to back it but I've followed every step since it was first announced. Hope more people discover it thanks to you. Keep up the good work!
Gotta love Mr Stan Lynx. I'm very excited for the Lynx R1 to ship. I wonder if Brad has gotten used to even nicer MR headsets to the point where this wasn't mind blowing for him anymore. Doesn't help he got shown an older demo. I know that anything is gonna be better than the shitty cameras on my VP2.
Looking good! love the form factor, minimal, balanced, and practical. Excellent job, and also If it runs the android OS and supports openXR it would be great for devs with this flip-up visor.
Hell YEAH! Been waiting for this moment since mid-pandemic 😁👍 From the demos I've seen this will function like a more affordable, more versatile wider FoV Hololens, right?
@@handlemonium it really does seem that they could do that. They made this with less than 1% of Meta budget seasonally. This should show us what massive accomplishments they are capable of with even just a bit more support & backing. I'm here for it
0:28 Man, Brad, for all the wordplay you love so much (...that I appreciate like you wouldn't believe...) you totally missed your _"I'm a kind of a Stan stan. It's not secret. I stan Stan until you can't stand it."_ moment. 😹
With dual passthru lenses that are also so much closer to your actual eyes, I would think the 3D passthru view would be Much better than the Quest Pro, but you described it as just a bit better. Perhaps you were referring to sharpness, color, or something else?
Just overall. It’s not a magic HMD. It does it’s focus well in a humble way. It doesn’t have a lot of the distortions that Quest Pro MR has. And slightly higher sharpness
@@SadlyItsBradley Is that sharpness of the passthrough feed, or VR-sharpness as well? I'm curious if the funky lenses make 1600x1600 feel more like 2000x2000px because the pixel gaps are less noticeable after overlapping 4 images together
Lynx R1 also doesn't data harvest you like the Quest 2 or the Pico, reason why the Lynx R1 price is higher. In short the Lynx R1 respects your data privacy, unlike the competition, making it one of the best headsets in the market, my opinion of course.
I'm looking forward to the day when I can finally ditch my monitor and TV and go full XR. I think it's going to happen soon. My Pico 4 Virtual Desktop experience impressed me but it's gonna take a significantly higher resolution than even that and HDR OLED displays for better contrast and colors.
Bradley is a super cool person, better by awkward and by yourself than be someone else or do thing for people and the society. Why buy a house of 400 000K a lifetime pay for when you can travel and meet like real life in VR for 10 000K(in my crazy case lol ) or less for the very best experience. People who didn't experience VR in general or deeper true power VR cannot understand it and mostly have false idea about it, cause they think what they saw or people told them like Horizon.Thanks for all those fresh tech that will comming up , you rock ! Love yaaaa
Nvidia implemented their "Simultaneous Multi-projection" years ago, in the kinda first wave of VR advancements. It's awesome to see someone actually building a whole lens and optics setup around the concept
I noticed you rarely talk about impressions on horizontal and vertical FOV of these new headsets. It would be cool if you could say a few words about that in your future impressions.
how does the text clarity compare to quest 2? is it better? I would love to use it for productivity but I feel that the resolution is too low, for now only the pico 4 seems ok for reading text for a couple of hours
Yes I saw it. Of course some debonair french chipmonger would sweep Brad off his feet like that. I just hope this is a "what happens in Vegas" kind of thing and he does not forget about us now.
Regarding the lens design of the Lynx: I understood that the division into 4 areas is for the purpose of having a direct light path on the eye in the middle. This was originally intended to enable eye tracking. Will Lynx R1 have eye tracking?
Certainly an interesting headset. Considering they only had one application running, I'm guessing it doesn't have SteamVR support, which is a bit scary, but hopefully in the works. Might take making an OpenXR extension or three for their special rendering setup 🤔 That is if it's not solely a standalone headset... I'm so out of the loop 🤪👍 Good morning!
It has steamvr support ( they reworking their software for it from a cloudXr compatible version they previous had from what i last heard about it ) and will support steamvr tracked controller. but concerning the standalone ecosystem, I agree with you that the current software library is probably non-existent at the moment, and a lot of work from dev is needed to have a decent library on the device
It allows to use PC VR like a Quest, so that way Steam VR is supported. They have also stated that Index controllers work with the system so I think it's as good as it can be for a first product
I don't think your awkward Brad, I would have thought someone who is awkward would not neccesarily get in front of a camera let alone present as well as you do
Once developers get their hands on these and push it, this will take off. So many things are only possible with this headset. This cannot be stressed enough. Major implications
Unfortunately it feels like it's going to be ages before I can get a PC focused headset. Everyone is moving on to stand alone stuff even though we haven't scratched the surface of how amazing PC vr can get... not many options these days.
What would this headset be used for Brad? For consumers I mean? I still feel the market isn't ready for anything more than mobile gaming and PCVR. I love my Quest Pro for PCVR, but I've had it three months and still have zero use cases for local dimming, eye tracking, face tracking and mixed reality. It seems like we are a couple years away from any of these technologies being utilised. So for a consumer, a headset like the Lynx, I have no idea what people would do with it?
The consumer use case is hard to imagine right now for any mixed reality headset on the market. There’s like no consumer apps for the medium. But I think over time; that will change
@@SadlyItsBradley you said it's slightly better than Quest Pro, are you just talking about its mixed reality? I don't suppose this would make a great PCVR gaming headset or standalone gaming headset? Or could you use it for all that as well?
@@sonicsnake44 I did buy that last week and spent a few minutes in it. I will give it another go as I really didn't know what I was doing. For me so far the only useful MR app is Puzzling Places, which is great to to do jigsaws in my lounge whilst watching long podcasts on CZcams or Joe Rogan on Spotify. I am excited about the possibilities of MR but it seems like we are still a long way away from having decent apps and games to spend serious time using it like with current VR gaming.
@@kevinbrook7033 Here's a video explaining what Figmin XR is czcams.com/video/AotVMEQinIw/video.html I do agree that AR definitely needs more apps for it as well as affordable hardware to experience it on.
It means developers don't have to go through ridiculous amount of rigamaroll getting data in and out anymore. The instant devs sniff up on this it's taking off
It’s great that a startup can create a good product, but in comparison it’s more, “How on earth did Meta screw up so badly?!?!?” I’m skeptical of hand/gesture input rather than controllers, so I’d love to hear more about the interface and how well that works with Lynx.
There will be controllers to buy later this year. They are both making their own and helping Finch develop compatible joystick based controllers to. As they are an open platform. Anyone who wants can make controllers for it. In the meantime, you can use any lighthouse based controller when running PCVR.
Sadly they are 850 without tax. Over 1000 with where I live. I do like what they are doing but I think it is still too expensive for consumers. Even though their offer looks like a steal compared to HTCs ludicrous pricing for their new headset xD
HTC's headset, like the Quest Pro is also a PCVR and standalone gaming headset as well. As far as I'm aware you can't do anything on this Lynx. This makes the Quest Pro and HTC look great value for money imo. You're paying a grand for this to push some planets around in your lounge.
@@kevinbrook7033 Well, you are unaware then. You can do all that. Standalone gaming will be very limited at the start because their store is new and they have a smaller platform so less people will be developing for it. But you will be able to play SteamVR, even on launch. It is the same hardware with different sensors after all. Virtual desktops dev is working on an integration for the Lynx right now as well.
@@tinminator8905 yes but look at the headset. It's 1600 x 1600 per eye and looks like it has about an 80 degree FOV. It doesn't even have controllers. Being technically able to do something doesn't mean it will do it as well as a proper device intended to do that thing. I can watch films on my phone, doesn't mean I'd want to.
@@kevinbrook7033 they have demos in the office with SteamVR, playing half life alyx (by youtubers) using Index controllers. They have shown a nice demo with their mascot and portals from AR to VR, they have shown a video where a skateboarder was collecting coins on the street. There is plenty of things out there if you'd only looked for a second
@@codex4048 you can jerry rig a Rift S to work with Index controllers and it will have the same resolution and slightly larger FOV, but nobody wants to do that. I'm not trashing the headset it looks interesting for MR, I'm just responding to comments on this thread that say it's better than the Quest Pro. It's not. You can't use for anything unless you spend another £600 (taking your total cost to £1600) on Valve base stations and Index controllers and can then play PCVR on a Rift S resolution and tiny screen. Or you could save £100 and get a stellar PCVR and standalone game experience out of the box with Quest Pro. This headset is only going to be of use to small enterprise and companies who can use it showcase their products or businesses or for developers building apps.
I feel Quest-3 and Quest-Pro are going to be Meta's big flop and give competition a clear runway for overshadowing the anti-competitive meta giant. _(they buy up talent and tech startups all over the place and block competition access)_
Why would Quest 3 flop? It will be the biggest selling VR headset release in 2023 by far. What do you think the Lynx offers consumers exactly? Let's say you buy one. What are you going to do with it? Serious question.
Quest 3 will probably be the best selling VR headset for quite a while. PSVR 2 will also be competing for best selling. Both of these headsets are going to do incredibly well and take us into the next phase of mainstream VR adoption with 10s of millions more users. But I suspect Quest 3 will sell the most. A smaller, lighter, pancake lens, higher resolution, wider FoV, MR capable, significantly more powerful upgrade to the Quest 2 is a clear winner. The MR capability should be better than Quest Pro, as they'll have a year since Quest Pro launch to iron out the kinks and improve it, and it seems like it will also include a depth sensor, which should help significantly improve it. I honestly don't see how it wouldn't be a massive success (as long as they bring some big new content), given how successful Quest 2 is.
Quest 3 will be a success, same recipe with the Quest 2 but with way more power. Quest Pro was rushed to get the high end market before Apple, it will be polished and probably become the standard.
@@jonathanantoine4962 yes its a funny headset the Quest Pro. The lenses are so good it's rendered all Fresnel headsets obselete, like I can't even use my Reverb G2 any more it looks so bad in comparison but Meta instead of marketing it for gaming touted all of these new features like MR, eye tracking and face tracking which have been completely functionally useless up to now. Hopefully the Quest Pro 2 will deliver on the promise of this new tech, but with these lenses the Quest 3 will be a killer headset for £500 and people are in for a treat.
@@kevinbrook7033 I agree, I think everything has been done in a rush and poor strategy those 2 last years, but still with a lot of potential that will pay off if Meta start operating with more serious again
6:23 NO! I'm a Furry and I needed to buy cosmetics for my face to stay in shape with my beautiful hair with blue tips and my gorgeous eyes and ears and my whole body. You know I'm expensive and I needed more money than you soo... I need your money as well. Can you give money for my makeup? I use a bunch of products but if you give me your money I don't have to spend my money on it.
You seem to always give good feedback and willing to turn a blind eye for projects you personally enjoy even when they have no real value whatsoever, from a pure pragmatical point of view, while instead being very harsh and critical otherwise for things you don't personally enjoy, no matter their usefulness in their niche. What are you going to do with the Lynx R1? Play the demo 300 times? Please. I understand you are an enthusiast that likes to look for something new or advancements in the field, but I wonder how much practical the advice you give seriously is. You just bashed the Crystal because it was too bulky and it had software issues, while the headset itself has probably the clearest visuals around and it's a very good headset for stationary purposes (as sims) but here you are, praising a headset that has very little practical purpose outside of a little demo and at most two other applications (that nobody will ever use after a month). Everyone can have his/her opinion but a reviewer should also be able to know and counteract his/her personal biases to give a worthwhile assessment of the situation.
so its worse then Pico4 a 430 Euro headset, that does manage quite a bit sharper RGB passthrough than metaPro, but it doesnt even look like this dude have tried the biggest VRplayer on the planets own headset. so your perspective is kind of flawed.
It's not a scam. They just got delayed. They are starting their shipping right now to backers. But starting with backers who can develop for the platform
@@brandongovreau9218 You can already buy it on their website and shipping should be February or later, since they are prioritizing backers. Standalone is also working, just needs some more software.
And before that the release date was twice before. I'm a backer and since the day I backed it I've said "this release date is impossible for them to get, if it comes in Januari 2023 I'm happily surprised". They are a new company that underestimated the timeline. Their communication could be better but I 100% believe this is not a scam. If you happen to be in Paris, just send Lynx a message and they will let you see the device yourself
To anyone that seems s bit confused. This is a standalone XR2 powered Android HMD. Similar to Quest 2 or Pro but with better hand tracking that also works in the dark thanks to IR lights, two color cameras for true stereoscopic passthrough with low latency (photon to photon), has an open platform (you can access as ll sensors, so great for research and experiments), and no data mining from social companies, run and designed from France within EU (made in Taiwan and assembled in China). Controllers are in development and will come later, and also be compatible with the next version.
this sounds amazing and i really hope the big companies wont be able to crush you...
Thanks Brad any news Lynx is good news! Keep up your efforts.
thank you CES, for this incredible coverage of Brad 2023
No problem!
Yes CES 2023 have really put Brad on full display. Kudos to the Vegas organizers.
Thanks for your coverage. Seems like you provided the most exhaustive VR coverage at CES 2023. This is the only coverage on Lynx at the show on youtube this far.
Did my best
I knew it was better than Quest 2 when I backed it, great to hear it's also better than the Quest pro.
Combining that with knowing the platform is as open as it can be I'm stoked to get mine soon (backer nr 9)
You have the best coverage of CES this year. All the information we really wanted, straight to the point👍🏿
I'm really glad you went to CES and are giving us these no BS explanations of your experiences with these new VR headsets. I've been waiting a long time to possibly upgrade from my Quest 1, and this information is super useful. Thanks for all your hard work man!
I'm really glad you went to Brad*
Yessssss! The video I’ve been waiting for. Thank you for such great CES coverage. How was the hand tracking latency vs Quest hand tracking?
I think the ultra leap hand tracking is better than Quest, honestly
bro Lynx is still around!! fux yeah!!
i'm so disappointed i didn't get to attend brad this year. good job covering all these headsets though, ces!
I think these are the forerunners of future AR glasses that we expect to see once technology gets smaller, more efficient to wear. What these do will eventually morph into actual glasses. Very cool to see such interesting headsets like the Lynx R1.
I appreciate your channel.
After you saying you are both awkward, I can't ignore it I m laughing every time you show an Interaction of you two, thanks for the amazing videos brad,. Love from Greece
Brad, I’m so glad you went to CES. You’ve showed us a lot and did it with no frills! Just the facts and opinions! Thank you!
This thing makes you look like some cyberpunk augmentations surgeon
Hi Brad.... At CES!!! Thanks for covering everything you do!
My pleasure!
You got the wrong guy. That was CES at Brad.
I backed the lynx day 1. I've been looking forward to hearing your impressions of the device. I'm suuuper curious about the lenses and I'm even more excited to get mine in the mail based on your overview. Stan says they're working on storefront and software compatibility to wrap things up for the main launch. It's been a long wait but it's very impressive what they've done as a start-up. Oh, and it will also have controller support in addition to the hand tracking.
Thanks for covering this Brad!
I backed the Kickstarter as well. Really excited when it finally gets delivered. I am glad to hear the mixed reality is better than quest Pro even though it's cheaper than the pro.
@@sonicsnake44 I'm excited for the mixed reality aspect but honestly my biggest gripe with the VR space as a whole is the dominance of fresnel lenses. They destroy the illusion of 3d space in my opinion. I have 3 headsets so far, the psvr, the Oculus rift, and the hp reverb g2 and despite the extreme gap in resolution between the psvr and g2, I genuinely find that the combination of the oled display and pancake lenses makes psvr the more tangible VR experience.
Even when I run a game at max resolution on the g2 with super crisp definition, I still feel like I'm looking at screen with a 3d effect rather than feeling immersed in the space. Psvr may be comically low res by comparison but it still feels more like I'm IN the game world.
Anyway, all this ranting is to say that I'm super excited to find out how the 3d-ness of virtual space feels with these new lenses. And from Brad's description, it sounds promising.
Thanks Brad. 😎
Hey CES, I really enjoy the detailed coverage of Brad 2023!
Thank you, your coverage of VR at CES has been amazing. I've been waiting for someone to post a video about Lynx R1 at CES. It's a headset I'm seriously looking forward to. Unfortunately I didn't have the money to back it but I've followed every step since it was first announced. Hope more people discover it thanks to you. Keep up the good work!
Your reviews are really good Brad! Keep going! Thumb up!
Gotta love Mr Stan Lynx. I'm very excited for the Lynx R1 to ship.
I wonder if Brad has gotten used to even nicer MR headsets to the point where this wasn't mind blowing for him anymore. Doesn't help he got shown an older demo.
I know that anything is gonna be better than the shitty cameras on my VP2.
Still kicking myself for not going through with backing this one. Thanks for the coverage, Brad!
Great reviews Brad its great to see the technology on the horizon.
Hi, CES at Brad
I hear Brad was packed this year, I hope you had a good time CES!
You're CES? You must be exhausted from having so many people going in and out of you.
uwu
He's a VR Chat user, so he's used to it.
The aftershow orgy was superb🥂
Bring back Brad, that CES guy is some impostor.
the beginning was the brad yet, keep it up!
Another note, this is not the final finish on the device. The next batch will have a mat finish like on their website, not shiny like this.
Ok I was wondering about that. Shiny is not great for longer than a day or 2
Man i wish I could attend the next Brad 2024 and meet CES in person!
Looking good! love the form factor, minimal, balanced, and practical. Excellent job, and also If it runs the android OS and supports openXR it would be great for devs with this flip-up visor.
Hell YEAH! Been waiting for this moment since mid-pandemic 😁👍
From the demos I've seen this will function like a more affordable, more versatile wider FoV Hololens, right?
You can hook it up to a PC and play PC VR games on it as well.
It's better than Hololens 2 flat out
@@stevepk5421 Hopefully Lynx R2 gives us 120° FoV with some of the best features from the Varjo XR-3 and Valve Deckard 🤞
@@handlemonium it really does seem that they could do that. They made this with less than 1% of Meta budget seasonally. This should show us what massive accomplishments they are capable of with even just a bit more support & backing. I'm here for it
CES!?! What have you done with Brad?
ded'd
Nice video. One correction, though: The resolution is actually sixteen times 400x400, not four. Great coverage of CES, Brad.
How are you the only person covering these headsets? Did you get any hands on time with the shiftall MeganeX?
worth watching
0:28 Man, Brad, for all the wordplay you love so much (...that I appreciate like you wouldn't believe...) you totally missed your _"I'm a kind of a Stan stan. It's not secret. I stan Stan until you can't stand it."_ moment. 😹
I hope you are getting on the Review list for all these headsets.
Nice review. Keen to understand the quality of alignment between the passthrough and the real world. Does it have decent spatial audio?
I backed it on kickstarter. Hoping to get my unit soon. I also backed Arpara which turned out to be actual scam.
Thanks!
No, thank you!
thanks brack
Ahhh after watching this the magic in the vision pro makes sense
- Good, Anakin, good. Kill him. Kill him now.
- I shouldn't.
- 6:25
OPEN YES
So... Would you say that you stan Stan? 😋
😳
@@SadlyItsBradley :P
Still, thanks for the coverage of CES this year, lots of awesome things this year :D
Take of that jacket Brad!!
We all stan Stan :>
With dual passthru lenses that are also so much closer to your actual eyes, I would think the 3D passthru view would be Much better than the Quest Pro, but you described it as just a bit better.
Perhaps you were referring to sharpness, color, or something else?
Just overall. It’s not a magic HMD. It does it’s focus well in a humble way. It doesn’t have a lot of the distortions that Quest Pro MR has. And slightly higher sharpness
@@SadlyItsBradley Is that sharpness of the passthrough feed, or VR-sharpness as well? I'm curious if the funky lenses make 1600x1600 feel more like 2000x2000px because the pixel gaps are less noticeable after overlapping 4 images together
Lynx R1 also doesn't data harvest you like the Quest 2 or the Pico, reason why the Lynx R1 price is higher. In short the Lynx R1 respects your data privacy, unlike the competition, making it one of the best headsets in the market, my opinion of course.
I'm looking forward to the day when I can finally ditch my monitor and TV and go full XR. I think it's going to happen soon. My Pico 4 Virtual Desktop experience impressed me but it's gonna take a significantly higher resolution than even that and HDR OLED displays for better contrast and colors.
I am looking forward to 'BradCon 23'
I don't know why I like your content so much, but I find it very accessible and relatable -- nice work.
Bradley is a super cool person, better by awkward and by yourself than be someone else or do thing for people and the society. Why buy a house of 400 000K a lifetime pay for when you can travel and meet like real life in VR for 10 000K(in my crazy case lol ) or less for the very best experience. People who didn't experience VR in general or deeper true power VR cannot understand it and mostly have false idea about it, cause they think what they saw or people told them like Horizon.Thanks for all those fresh tech that will comming up , you rock ! Love yaaaa
i love you
I see you have managed to take a look at most VR headsets at CES. Did you manage to take a look at the Pimax Crystal latest prototypes at the show?.
Nvidia implemented their "Simultaneous Multi-projection" years ago, in the kinda first wave of VR advancements. It's awesome to see someone actually building a whole lens and optics setup around the concept
Here we go again
Scale every headset from 1 - ? Which headset impressed more
I noticed you rarely talk about impressions on horizontal and vertical FOV of these new headsets. It would be cool if you could say a few words about that in your future impressions.
how does the text clarity compare to quest 2? is it better? I would love to use it for productivity but I feel that the resolution is too low, for now only the pico 4 seems ok for reading text for a couple of hours
There wasn’t any text in the software I tried so I’m not sure :(
bradley has a crush
Yes I saw it. Of course some debonair french chipmonger would sweep Brad off his feet like that. I just hope this is a "what happens in Vegas" kind of thing and he does not forget about us now.
Already won the most awkward youtuber of 2023. Mad lad
Regarding the lens design of the Lynx: I understood that the division into 4 areas is for the purpose of having a direct light path on the eye in the middle. This was originally intended to enable eye tracking. Will Lynx R1 have eye tracking?
It does not have eye tracking
You can get external modules for eyevtracking . Platforms open sourcs
Hi, I'm brad
Certainly an interesting headset. Considering they only had one application running, I'm guessing it doesn't have SteamVR support, which is a bit scary, but hopefully in the works. Might take making an OpenXR extension or three for their special rendering setup 🤔 That is if it's not solely a standalone headset... I'm so out of the loop 🤪👍 Good morning!
It has steamvr support ( they reworking their software for it from a cloudXr compatible version they previous had from what i last heard about it ) and will support steamvr tracked controller. but concerning the standalone ecosystem, I agree with you that the current software library is probably non-existent at the moment, and a lot of work from dev is needed to have a decent library on the device
One XR app they must get is Figmin XR. That app is amazing.
It allows to use PC VR like a Quest, so that way Steam VR is supported. They have also stated that Index controllers work with the system so I think it's as good as it can be for a first product
I don't think your awkward Brad, I would have thought someone who is awkward would not neccesarily get in front of a camera let alone present as well as you do
Once developers get their hands on these and push it, this will take off. So many things are only possible with this headset. This cannot be stressed enough. Major implications
Does it work for people with glasses or do you need to bring your eyeballs very close to the weird lenses?
Wmr has got updated clarity and tracking feels different. Half life 2 vr has workshop for map and mod support.
Unfortunately it feels like it's going to be ages before I can get a PC focused headset. Everyone is moving on to stand alone stuff even though we haven't scratched the surface of how amazing PC vr can get... not many options these days.
At a sub-$1000 price, this actually seems affordable compared to what we've seen so far. Although still looking for the best PCVR HMD....
Weren't you going to make some PIMAX vid?
I hope we can get virtual desktop on this headset. It would be cool to play games with this one
Its open sorced and it supports steam VR so you can use Virtually desktop and everything
Afaik weird lenses were designed to let eye tracking camera be placed. Behind it.
Woof
What would this headset be used for Brad? For consumers I mean? I still feel the market isn't ready for anything more than mobile gaming and PCVR. I love my Quest Pro for PCVR, but I've had it three months and still have zero use cases for local dimming, eye tracking, face tracking and mixed reality. It seems like we are a couple years away from any of these technologies being utilised.
So for a consumer, a headset like the Lynx, I have no idea what people would do with it?
The consumer use case is hard to imagine right now for any mixed reality headset on the market. There’s like no consumer apps for the medium. But I think over time; that will change
@@SadlyItsBradley you said it's slightly better than Quest Pro, are you just talking about its mixed reality? I don't suppose this would make a great PCVR gaming headset or standalone gaming headset? Or could you use it for all that as well?
For quest 2 & Pro their is a amazing mixed reality app called Figmin XR.
@@sonicsnake44 I did buy that last week and spent a few minutes in it. I will give it another go as I really didn't know what I was doing.
For me so far the only useful MR app is Puzzling Places, which is great to to do jigsaws in my lounge whilst watching long podcasts on CZcams or Joe Rogan on Spotify.
I am excited about the possibilities of MR but it seems like we are still a long way away from having decent apps and games to spend serious time using it like with current VR gaming.
@@kevinbrook7033
Here's a video explaining what Figmin XR is
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I do agree that AR definitely needs more apps for it as well as affordable hardware to experience it on.
So its not 4k but it gives you alot of freedom?
Why would it need to have a bootloader locked? Why can't i just run anything normally like a PC? Sure better but damn.
It's an Android device. It's a standalone MR headset with an XR2 chip, same as Quest 2. But you can't unlock the Quest bootloader, with Lynx you can.
It means developers don't have to go through ridiculous amount of rigamaroll getting data in and out anymore. The instant devs sniff up on this it's taking off
@@stevepk5421 Nice.
That hinge looks flimsy and easy to break
It’s great that a startup can create a good product, but in comparison it’s more, “How on earth did Meta screw up so badly?!?!?” I’m skeptical of hand/gesture input rather than controllers, so I’d love to hear more about the interface and how well that works with Lynx.
There will be controllers to buy later this year. They are both making their own and helping Finch develop compatible joystick based controllers to. As they are an open platform. Anyone who wants can make controllers for it. In the meantime, you can use any lighthouse based controller when running PCVR.
Sadly they are 850 without tax. Over 1000 with where I live. I do like what they are doing but I think it is still too expensive for consumers. Even though their offer looks like a steal compared to HTCs ludicrous pricing for their new headset xD
HTC's headset, like the Quest Pro is also a PCVR and standalone gaming headset as well. As far as I'm aware you can't do anything on this Lynx. This makes the Quest Pro and HTC look great value for money imo. You're paying a grand for this to push some planets around in your lounge.
@@kevinbrook7033 Well, you are unaware then. You can do all that. Standalone gaming will be very limited at the start because their store is new and they have a smaller platform so less people will be developing for it. But you will be able to play SteamVR, even on launch. It is the same hardware with different sensors after all. Virtual desktops dev is working on an integration for the Lynx right now as well.
@@tinminator8905 yes but look at the headset. It's 1600 x 1600 per eye and looks like it has about an 80 degree FOV. It doesn't even have controllers. Being technically able to do something doesn't mean it will do it as well as a proper device intended to do that thing. I can watch films on my phone, doesn't mean I'd want to.
@@kevinbrook7033 they have demos in the office with SteamVR, playing half life alyx (by youtubers) using Index controllers.
They have shown a nice demo with their mascot and portals from AR to VR, they have shown a video where a skateboarder was collecting coins on the street.
There is plenty of things out there if you'd only looked for a second
@@codex4048 you can jerry rig a Rift S to work with Index controllers and it will have the same resolution and slightly larger FOV, but nobody wants to do that.
I'm not trashing the headset it looks interesting for MR, I'm just responding to comments on this thread that say it's better than the Quest Pro. It's not. You can't use for anything unless you spend another £600 (taking your total cost to £1600) on Valve base stations and Index controllers and can then play PCVR on a Rift S resolution and tiny screen.
Or you could save £100 and get a stellar PCVR and standalone game experience out of the box with Quest Pro.
This headset is only going to be of use to small enterprise and companies who can use it showcase their products or businesses or for developers building apps.
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I feel Quest-3 and Quest-Pro are going to be Meta's big flop and give competition a clear runway for overshadowing the anti-competitive meta giant. _(they buy up talent and tech startups all over the place and block competition access)_
Why would Quest 3 flop? It will be the biggest selling VR headset release in 2023 by far. What do you think the Lynx offers consumers exactly? Let's say you buy one. What are you going to do with it? Serious question.
Quest 3 will probably be the best selling VR headset for quite a while.
PSVR 2 will also be competing for best selling.
Both of these headsets are going to do incredibly well and take us into the next phase of mainstream VR adoption with 10s of millions more users.
But I suspect Quest 3 will sell the most.
A smaller, lighter, pancake lens, higher resolution, wider FoV, MR capable, significantly more powerful upgrade to the Quest 2 is a clear winner.
The MR capability should be better than Quest Pro, as they'll have a year since Quest Pro launch to iron out the kinks and improve it, and it seems like it will also include a depth sensor, which should help significantly improve it.
I honestly don't see how it wouldn't be a massive success (as long as they bring some big new content), given how successful Quest 2 is.
Quest 3 will be a success, same recipe with the Quest 2 but with way more power. Quest Pro was rushed to get the high end market before Apple, it will be polished and probably become the standard.
@@jonathanantoine4962 yes its a funny headset the Quest Pro. The lenses are so good it's rendered all Fresnel headsets obselete, like I can't even use my Reverb G2 any more it looks so bad in comparison but Meta instead of marketing it for gaming touted all of these new features like MR, eye tracking and face tracking which have been completely functionally useless up to now.
Hopefully the Quest Pro 2 will deliver on the promise of this new tech, but with these lenses the Quest 3 will be a killer headset for £500 and people are in for a treat.
@@kevinbrook7033 I agree, I think everything has been done in a rush and poor strategy those 2 last years, but still with a lot of potential that will pay off if Meta start operating with more serious again
when I put on my glasses I get slightly less blurry reality and it fuckin sucks
Man I recently upgraded from a 1080p tv to 4k and wow, my 1080p content now looks so much worse lol. Sometimes a little blur is a good thing.
So this is purely MR, no VR?
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A fan of Stan? Don’t you mean… heh, you’re a Stan stan? Bdm tsss
You yourself admitted you can see the lines of the weird lenses. Bad deal.
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You know I'm expensive and I needed more money than you soo... I need your money as well.
Can you give money for my makeup?
I use a bunch of products but if you give me your money I don't have to spend my money on it.
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aaaand tells you pretty much nothing about the experience itself...
Brad is awkward?
You seem to always give good feedback and willing to turn a blind eye for projects you personally enjoy even when they have no real value whatsoever, from a pure pragmatical point of view, while instead being very harsh and critical otherwise for things you don't personally enjoy, no matter their usefulness in their niche. What are you going to do with the Lynx R1? Play the demo 300 times? Please. I understand you are an enthusiast that likes to look for something new or advancements in the field, but I wonder how much practical the advice you give seriously is. You just bashed the Crystal because it was too bulky and it had software issues, while the headset itself has probably the clearest visuals around and it's a very good headset for stationary purposes (as sims) but here you are, praising a headset that has very little practical purpose outside of a little demo and at most two other applications (that nobody will ever use after a month).
Everyone can have his/her opinion but a reviewer should also be able to know and counteract his/her personal biases to give a worthwhile assessment of the situation.
so its worse then Pico4 a 430 Euro headset, that does manage quite a bit sharper RGB passthrough than metaPro, but it doesnt even look like this dude have tried the biggest VRplayer on the planets own headset.
so your perspective is kind of flawed.
Google says the release date is November 15th 2022 but it is currently 2023 and it hasn't released yet that tells me it's a scam
It's not a scam. They just got delayed. They are starting their shipping right now to backers. But starting with backers who can develop for the platform
@@SadlyItsBradley have you got any information of when it will release and is it working for standalone?
@@brandongovreau9218 You can already buy it on their website and shipping should be February or later, since they are prioritizing backers. Standalone is also working, just needs some more software.
@@flyingwolf6 do I just download an app to connect the mixed reality headset to my phone do I even need to use it with a phone?
And before that the release date was twice before. I'm a backer and since the day I backed it I've said "this release date is impossible for them to get, if it comes in Januari 2023 I'm happily surprised".
They are a new company that underestimated the timeline. Their communication could be better but I 100% believe this is not a scam. If you happen to be in Paris, just send Lynx a message and they will let you see the device yourself
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