1985 World Series, Game 6: Cardinals @ Royals
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- St. Louis Cardinals 1 at Kansas City Royals 2, F -- The Royals were on their way to a comeback after starting the Series down two games. Now back at home again, they had the momentum to even up the Series and force a Game 7. The game was scoreless until the eighth inning, with Danny Cox and Charlie Leibrandt pitching spectacularly against one another. Brian Harper finally broke through in the eighth when he singled home Terry Pendleton to give the Cardinals the lead. In the bottom of the 9th, with the bases loaded, and the Cardinals only two outs away from a World Championship, Dane Iorg looped a two-run single to right, allowing Onix Concepcion and Jim Sundberg to score, giving the Royals another shot at the World Championship in Game 7.
For Years As A St. Louis Cardinals 🏟️⚾🏆🚫 Fan, I Dread 😬 Watching These Last 2 1985 World Series Games.
Game 6 And Game 7.
But Right Before My Father 🤵🏻 Passed Away. He Said That His Favorite Major League Baseball Player Was George Brett. And His Favorite Major League Baseball Team Was The Kansas City Royals.
So If My Cardinals Were Going To Lose The World Series, It Might As Well Be My Father's 🤵🏻 Favorite Team! 🏟️⚾🏆🥲Love You Dad! Your Team FINALLY WON A WORLD SERIES TITLE. Love You 🙏
Everybody remembers the missed call on first but not the Clark error or the wild pitch/passed ball. And no one talks about Dane Iorg's epic game-winning 2-run single. One of the greatest hits ever hit by an unsung hero in a major league baseball history imho. Well, HE'LL never forget it for the rest of his life.
And the thing was, the missed call at first ended up not really making a difference.
That was not an error by Clark. And I do wonder if he was gonna be able to catch it, because the TV camera was there
@@BravesAvsFan it made a huge difference. momentum shift. nuff said
Yeah I’ve always said that yes the call was horrible but that runner didn’t score. There was so many other opportunities for the Cardinals that night to put the game away.
@@kurtzimmerman1637 Perhaps it simply shifted it back from when White was called out at 2nd when he was clearly safe on a blown call earlier in the game, then the Royals singled and it would have scored White. So that error took away an out AND a run from the Royals. But...I guess that momentum shift didn't bother you. Yeah....
I love how Jim Palmer, at the beginning of the broadcast made a mention that Leibrandt pitched 140 pitches in the last start. I SO miss the days when a pitcher started the game and was doing tremendous, that they were LEFT in the game regardless of "PITCH COUNT." Pitchers get more injuries these days because of that bullshit. I remember about 10 years back when attending a Dodger game and Lima was pitching. The guy pitched a 2 hitter through 8 innings, and then in the ninth (WITH the score of 10-0) mind you, they bring in a closer to finish it out. I couldn't believe they didn't let him finish and get the shutout. Shutouts are sooooo rare these days, but in the 60's 70's and 80's they were such a common thing. (And don't even get me started about the lack of base stealing today....)
+Tommy Clark If you like base stealing you must enjoy the Royals. lol
JIm Sunberg made one of the best slides I've ever seen. Classic game.
I can name more members of the '85 Royals than the 2014 Royals. That's sad. I feel old.
What about the 2015 Royals
Dan Quisenberry was one of my favorite pitchers of all time. He was fun to watch.
I lived in KCMO in '85. Every time I saw Quisenberry deliver a pitch my arm and shoulder would hurt ;)
Dane Iorg's hit is the greatest moment in Royals history.
GLORIOUS. Absolutely glorious.
Sundberg slides........WE GO TO A 7TH!!!!! Iconic call by one of the greatest to ever do it! Awesome job Al Michaels! 👍🏼
greatest game in Royals history for sure!!! Thank you for posting this game!
57:00 Ozzie missed the tag on Frank White but he was still called out. That cost the Royals a run as Sherdian's subsequent single would have scored him.
Fair point! The guy who was called safe in the 9th was out at 3rd, as well.
I bought a brand new Sony 27 inch TV right before this series and I thought this broadcast was so clear/colorful(yes from my memory it looked exactly like this) it would never get better.
This game took place on the date that Marty McFly travels to the past in Back to the Future 1: October 26, 1985 Saturday.
the big blow was the pop up that Jack Clark missed after the orta play. If Denkinger got the right call and the Royals still won; this series would be known as the Jack Clark Error.
Game 6 has always produced some of the greatest games in WS history
that last throw when sundberg scored was right down Broadway
The curse of Keith Hernandez was in full effect here. Lol
He even admitted so, haha.
The moments you all are waiting for are at 2:13:14 and 2:25:11.
What a fantastic World Series this was.
I especially loved game #7.
It's nice to let the pinch hitters have the glory now and again. And it takes a big load off Brett and Wilson and White.
Daryl Motley was Game 7! He started the Ass Stomping and got the final out of Game 7!
August Busch owned the team in the 80's. He died in 1989 and the team struggled in the 90's. In 1995, Bill DeWitt led a group of investors which bought the St. Louis Cardinals from the Busch family. They hired Tony La Russa after the 1995 season and the rest is history.
For the longest time i thought this play happened with 2 outs. The fact that it would only have been the 1st out kind of lessens the argument that this one play cost the Cardinals the Series..
On top of that, there are St. Louis fans that believe it was Game 7 as well
In a 1-0 game, getting the lead off man out is statistically a big deal. Plus the cards wouldn't have mind fucked themselves defensively so bad, and the Royals were in the bottom part of their lineup.
it did cost them....that and clark....shoulda been 2 outs nobody on.
@@kchristopherb They got the lead of man out at third. So it had no impact.
@@youarepredictable oh it did, the inning wouldn't have gone the same...they still screwed the pooch because they didnt get over it mentally, statistically, it's a big deal though, especially 9th inning.
well..i live this" GAME winner" almost every day !!!!! it was never better for me!!and the royals...!!
What a dramatic ending-way to save the series and force the Game 7 blowout, and all because of cool tactical play and miraculous Cardinals errors leading to the Sundberg evasion base-running score. Very exciting...if you're a Royals fan that is! Thanks for posting.
The blown call at 1st in the 9th is insignificant. There were 0 outs, and then the guy gets thrown out at third. So, it's a wash. The Cardinals simply choked after that call.
not to mention that there was a seventh game
but I guess Saint Louis forgot to play that one
My dad was season tix holder. Great lady who sat in row in front of us had 2 great lines. Slide, Jimmy, slide. About Sundberg's couple of crucial slides. And what all the fuss about the "blown call" because they got Orta out at 3rd anyway! Classic.
That's not how any of that works. That's judging the outcome. Everything that happens after is different if that first out is called properly. The pressure, the circumstances, the situation, completely altered.
Love Abc’s Baseball Theme music in the 80’s!
You’re right about that!!!!
Leibrandt was the pitcher who gave up Kirby Puckett's homer to end Game 6 in the 1991 World Series.
And we'll see ya tomorrow night.
Also the pitcher that gave up Dave Winfield's Series winning double in Game 6 vs Toronto in 1992 for Atlanta. Extremely hard luck history.
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot had to soften the blows a bit for Leibrandt though that he had already won this World Series, so he did retire with a ring despite his hard luck in other series.
On the last play, Van Slyke really made an outstanding throw from right field. Sundberg slid well, but I can't help thinking that the catcher was positioned too far forward and did not play that throw correctly. By standing a few feet back, he might have gotten Sundberg.
Absolutely! I'm glad someone remembers that. The Brewers would have had the series wrapped up after five games had it not been for that blown call. Any team that is up three games to one and loses the next three straight games doesn't need to complain about anything (except that their team choked).
This was my first time I ever followed the WOrld Series. I was 7 years old and I will never forget the look as the Cardinals were two outs away from it. I feel for those guys
45:35 the future Cardinals manager who would win MORE World Championships than Herzog! Who would have thought it in 1985? Go figure!
The funny part is he’s now the White Sox manager again! 😂😂😂
Loved LaRussa in Oakland.
Say what you want about a blown call, but that '85 trophy is in our house and it ain't going anywhere.
Because the blown call didn't cause the botched foul popup or the passed ball or the base hit.
And Cardinals have 11...
Stay with that
I still remember my 'It's An I-70 World Series!' t-shirt my mom got me. The whole family got together in the living room to watch this game. Poor Charlie Leibrandt pitched his heart out in this series but it was awful to him. Couldn't have asked for a better finish to this game.
my favorite game of all time
as a mets fan, i took a lot of pleasure in this
As a Cubs fan, so did I... 😎👍
paul353 As did I in 2006 NLS
This comment didn’t age well
Lol even though we beat you in 2015 🤣🤣 can't say anything these days cuz we suck
Regardless of the blown call in the 9th, this is one of the greatest games ever played in my lifetime. Game 7 of the 1992 NLCS comes in at a very close second.
Jack Clark cost his team way more at 1B than Buckner ever did. Amazing everything they did in that rally and not one mention of #5. BTW, happy #60 to #5. And RIP Fred White.
Cards shouldn't have traded Hernandez 😂
57:07 - Frank White was SAFE! You could say the bad call in the 9th was karma for the Cards
Thank you! Ironic that all Cards fans never remember this…
not only one of MLB's most historic games ever played but what a great applause given 2 Sally Ride when she delivered a ceremonial first pitch just very American for all fans 2 cheer for her accomplishment.
Hey Cardinals fans, go check out the bottom of the 2nd inning of Game 7 of the 1987 World Series, St. Louis vs Minnesota. With the Cardinals leading 2-0 in the bottom of the 2nd inning and runners on first & second and 1 out, Twins catcher Tim Laudner singled to left field. Don Baylor tried to score from second base, but was called out by the home plate umpire. Replays showed that Baylor was clearly SAFE. You can find the game here on youtube to check out the play. Now after the bad call did the Twins players act like a bunch of babies and just give up and not play hard the rest of the game while blaming the umpires? No, they did not. They held St. Louis scoreless the rest of the way and went on to win game 7 by the score of 4-2 and win the '87 World Series 4 games to 3. If every professional sports team whined & cried and let every bad call by an umpire or referee affect the way they played after a call they didn't agree with... then there would be melt downs practically every game. The Twins shrugged off the bad call and still played hard and went on to win game 7 & the World Series. Which is what the Cardinals should have done in the 1985 World Series... forgotten about game 6 and went out and won game 7. If the St. Louis Cardinals were the superior team, why didn't they overcome the bad call the next night in game 7 with their ace and Cy Young award winner John Tudor (21-8, 1.93) on the mound? Instead, they got blasted 11-0. Do you blame the ump for that loss too? Get over it Cardinals fans. St. Louis hit .185 in this series, scored only 13 runs, stole only 2 bases, and still had the chance to win the series in game 7 after this game. The Cardinals lost the World Series, not the umpires!
Key word, in THE SECOND INNING
Rick Steck I didn't lose, I'm a Royals fan. My comment was made to Cardinals fans still whining about it.
@@mrlowhe it doesn't matter which inning it was, the blown call wouldn't of been the end of the game, it would of been the first one, the Cardinals still needed to get more outs
Goosebumps, still. All those years ago. Wow!!!
Watching a finesse pitcher like Leibrandt who knows how to change speeds and location.
You judge different situations differently. Bartman was just one of the fans that reached out, and it wasn't clear that Alou would make the catch. Similarly, in '86, it wasn't clear that Mookie wouldn't have beaten Buckner out to get to first. In this one, it was crystal clear: he was out at first, period.
George Brett was a ballplayer.
For sure! In my opinion Brett and Schmidt greatest 3rd baseman of all time.
Yet another classic Game 6. 1976, 1985, 1986, 1991, 1992, 1993, 2002, and 2011 were modern World Series that had incredible sixth games. In 85, 86, 91, 02 and 11 the situation was just like this one - the team that was down 3-2 in the series was just a few outs (in some cases a strike) from losing the series but rallied back to win, and then won Game 7 to take the title.
There was no Game 6 in the 1976 World Series because the Reds swept the Yankees in four straight games. That classic Game 6 between the Reds and Red Sox was in the 1975 World Series.
Great final call from Al Michaels. Worrell's 6 consecutive strikeouts lead up to the infamous play at first; baseball can be a brutal game.
As a royals fan myself, I'll try to explain this as unbiased as possible.
In the 4th inning, Frank White was called out when we should have been called safe (I know that's not the juicy part but just explaining) (57:00)
2:13:12
Jorge Orta hits a little dribbler to the first baseman Jack Clark, who flips it onto rookie pitcher Todd Worell. Don Denkinger at first. The throw clearly in time. Orta falls over. He's out 1 away. Wait, he's safe!? Royals win the game 2-1 on a Dave Iorg single. There are 2 scenarios. First being, Cardinals hang on and win the WS. If that happens, then the Cardinals have 12 rings and their fans don't whine about getting screwed over by Denkinger. The league might change as a whole. Maybe the Royals don't go on a 28 year playoff drought. Maybe the Cardinals have a dynasty in the mid to late 80's. Second scenario is that despite Orta being out the Royals still win the game and the series, AKA everything afterwards stays the same. We still have the same league today without Denkinger getting death threats.
Was the call a bad one? Yes! Did it cost the Cardinals the game? Maybe. Did it cost them the series? NO!
Dear Cardinals fans, you're fortunate enough to have as much rings as you do, yet you still complain after one play 32 years ago. I don't see any Padres fans, A TEAM THAT HAS 0 CHAMPIONSHIPS, complain about the Matt Holliday call in 2007.
I think I've explained all I need to.
I know this comment was 3 years ago, but thank you for pointing this out. People act like there were 2 outs prior to that blown call when it would have been the first, AND he eventually was thrown out at 3rd. Okay, let’s assume he is thrown out at 1st, royals still win because of that passed ball the cards had, which still would have advanced the 2 batters who went after him to 2nd and 3rd, which was AVOIDABLE. Then they both still would have scored from Iorg’s single. Most likely barely anything would have changed, the only difference being that he was thrown out at 1st, not 3rd, which delusional cards fans use as a scapegoat for their loss. The cards choked, plain and simple
Woulda never happened in the age of replay. But glad it did!
How great were Todd Worrells six consecutive strike outs :)))
This was a great game.Thanks for posting it.
My biggest takeaway as a Cardinals fan is take away the missed call, the score is tied 1-1, and the royals either score and win later on in the bottom of the 9th, or the game goes into extra innings. All the same however, the momentum of the game and all of the World Series thoroughly shifted after that missed first base call. Not just that, but there was the missed Frank White call in game 6 too. Take away that, the royals definitely score in that inning. So if there was replay during those days, not only would Jorge Orta have been out, but Frank White would’ve been safe.
Top 10 films of 1985:
10. Spies Like Us (Warner Bros. Pictures)
9. The Goonies (Warner Bros. Pictures)
8. Witness (Paramount Pictures)
7. The Jewel Of The Nile (20th Century Studios)
6. Cocoon (20th Century Studios)
5. Out of Africa (Universal Pictures)
4. The Color Purple (Warner Bros. Pictures)
3. Rocky IV (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer)
2. Rambo: First Blood Part II (Carolco/TriStar Pictures)
1. Back to the Future (Universal Pictures)
1:59:48 George Brett strikes out in the 8th and the look on his face says "I'm going to lose the fucking World Series again"
Only that he didn’t…… 😉
Our minds have been opened brother!
God blessed my Royals that year
Yup. That ball landing right between both of them seemed to begin the Cardinals total meltdown. Clark had that sneering, primadonna look to him all Royal's fans hated. I still remember my Dad calling him "primadonna." Also remember Clark at bat in game 7 with the bat on his shoulder not even trying.
I believe they are the only team in baseball history to overcome twice a 1-3 deficit in a 7 games series. First the Blue Jays 1-3 and beat them 4-3, and the Cardinals the same story.
Hey Sco Jo. WRONG!! The whole psychology of the inning changes. You can't assume everything else happens the same.
Whitey outsmarted himself. He brought in a relief pitcher with no experience with this type of pressure. His previous relief appearance was in a mop up roll unlike this one in the bottom of the ninth with three outs to get. He had two opportunities to pull him before the damage was done after the Balboni single and before Iorg stepped to the plate. Worrell also flubbed the 7th game of the 1987 World Series giving up a crucial insurance run late in the game.
It comes down to Clark, you gotta make that play bub, still love you tho
Amazing...28 years later and some St. Louis fans still think the bad call at first base cost them the World Series. Of course it was a bad call, but it had NOTHING to do with The Royals winning the series.
One other thing, Orta who should have been called out at first base, never scored. He was thrown out at third base on Sundberg's bunt.
As a kid in Toronto in which i liked the Blue Jays and the Cards in the NL, this was painful..... But hats off to the Royals.
The 85 Cards embarrassed themselves in Game 7. I know what a galling defeat that must have been. But the Red Sox the next year suffered an even more heartbreaking defeat in a Game 6, and actually came close to blowing Game 7 open, but the Mets hung within striking distance and came back. But the Cards gave themselves no chance in Game 7, it was a nationally televised meltdown. And one of the most shameful and pitiful displays by a supposed Major League ball club. Pathetic
How come no one mentions that pop up that Clark mangled?
What Cardinal fans forget is Jack Clark and Darrell Porter misplay of a foul pop-up, the passed ball by Darrell Porter and Porter's decision to try to sweep tag Jim Sundberg instead of blocking the plate.
Actually, the Cardinals were competitive earlier than 2003. In 1996, La Russa's first season, they won the NL Central and held a 3-1 lead over Atlanta in the NLCS before losing in seven games. St. Louis also won division crowns and advanced to the NLCS in 2000 and 2002. In 2001, the Cardinals lost the division title via a tiebreaker to Houston, then fell in five games to Arizona in the Division Series. Interestingly enough, St. Louis went 85-77 in 2003, finishing third in the division.
Yeah, and even if you spot the Cardinals a second out, take the guy off 3rd, this game STILL gets tied with two outs in the 9th.
not only a historic game known for Denkinger's bad call but a wonderful first pitch from a wonderful American heroine Sally Ride. So sad she didn't get 2 physically see her achievement of being awarded da presidential medal of freedom. From dis game I definitely knew Denkinger indeed was wrong, hard 2 believe dat 25 years later another call like dis occurred 2 blow a perfect game.
There was a play earlier that year vs. Atlanta when Tom Herr was called out at third base, but overturned when another umpire pointed out that the throw pulled the third baseman off the bag.
RIP Don Denkinger
Clark and Porter misplay Balboni pop up, passed ball by Porter, DK didn't do it.
The Cardinals' .185 batting average was for a seven-game World Series until the New York Yankees hit .183 in the 2001 World Series against the Arizona Diamondbacks. The Cardinals also scored only thirteen total runs-an all-time low for a seven game series-scoring only once in the final 26 innings of the series. If they had held on for the win in Game 6, they still would have been outscored in the series 15-13.
Facts are a stubborn thing.
Damn check out Darrell Porter's glasses!
Jim Sundberg was a ballplayer. Damn.
ABC w/o Howie, YES!
I'll take Cosell over that blithering idiot McCarver any day.
Brian Harper's single @ 1:43:49
bottom of the ninth @ 2:09:15
umpire Don Denkinger infamous call @ 2:13:14
Dane Iorg's single @ 2:24:24
Herzog needed a challenge flag...
The look at 2:25:39 says it all.
Did that umpire get a ring too for helping the Royals win, giving them an extra out, 4 outs with momentum on their side?
Al Michaels sounds like a teenager. Is that Jim Palmer with McCarver doing color?
Martin Brady That is correct.
Me too my mother was a big Royals fan...she died weeks after they won the series,,,
Royals fans will always have this bragging rights against their crosstown Cardinals rivals
My Padres have a cursed history and have never won a World Series and were totally screwed by the Matt Holliday play in the 2007 tiebreaker against the team that would eventually go to the World Series. Cardinals have won 11 rings and their fans whine about a makeup call smh
I'll say that. The Padres 2 World Series opponents were absolute world beaters the 84' Tigers & '98 Yankees.
Good timing that Todd Worrell took the closer's job from Jeff Lahti. Lahti suffered a career ending injury the next year.
What about Game 6 and 7 of the '91 WS?
Definitely true, the Royals might have won it on a grand slam. Ah, the butterfly effect...
If we're gonna play this game: If Frank White is called safe at 2nd in the 4th inning, or the Cardinals don't poop the bed in game 5, this drama probably never happens.
"Delusional?" A blown call is a blown call, period!!
Other than their record (for a 7-game series) low .185 team batting average and the fact that they scored only 13 runs the whole Series, I can't see why Cards fans would blame Derkinger for them losing the WS.
(*Rolls Eyes*)
C'mon, man, let's be 100% real with each other here. I'm a Cubs fan and even I can see the validity in that. Just watch Game 7 if you don't believe me on that.
van slykes throw was awesome, just missed
Now I see........ Had we been BOSTON .... WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE CALL REVERSED
My thoughts on that 9th inning call: You have the leadoff man on, but then if they field that pop up, you have 1 out, runner on 1st. Still at that point a very manageable inning for the Cardinals.
Cool fact.
Herzog and Brett went to Chief's game before game 7.
I know dane iorg he is my best friends grandpa his grandsons name is trajen iorg
great game !
that call didnt cost them the series they still had game 7 so they still had a chance
Ask the Raiders if the Tuck Rule didn't cost them that game. Ask the Sacramento Kings if Gm 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals didn't cost them the series. I always love how people say 'well they have another game'. Imagine that you've done something historic, you earned it...and it was taken away from you. Then you have to get yourself back up to do it again with an all or nothing situation in effect. The reason they're called blown calls is because they usually have an impact on the aggrieved team. Cards were dead once Iorg's ball fell in.
LMAO...you don't have to be a jerk about it. My point is valid, whether you make silly little insults or not. Having to get four outs instead of three gave the Royals the win.
+Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot The Royals won with only 1 out. They could have been on the board earlier in the game if it wasn't for Frank White's blown call. But of course people don't remember that
Wonder if the runner who scores the winning run is out, if Porter lets that ball travel a little more, rather than catching it in front of the plate, and then trying to reach around for the tag. Great throw by Van Slyke.
haha all that whining that cardinals fans do about that call in the 9th and yet in the 4th frank white was clearly safe stealing second and would have scored on the single by Sheridan. No excuses here. The Royals beat them up and down. Denkinger is just a scapegoat.
Also, Leibrandt froze the Wizard to end the 8th, but didn't get the call. The Cards were gifted an extra out and an extra base runner, but didn't cash in (thanks to a great play by Frank White). Royals deserved game 6 and the championship.
Frank White was out at second. He didn't even contest the call.
Jose Carranza back then unless it was egregious, players often wouldn't put up a fight. They knew it was hopeless anyway. The White play wasn't egregious, but looking at the replay it does look like he slid in a hair ahead of Ozzie's tag.
Agreed. As a kid wanted to see the Cardinals win, but as they say about sports don't put yourself in the refs hands to decide the win. Also the Cardinals couldn't hit squat in that whole series.
AVC IV But the cardinals didn’t put the umpires hands to decide the win. WTF are you talking about.
Cardinals got screwed.
while it might have been the worst call ever, the Jack Clark error of not catching the ball was even larger.
For the full inning, cue up to 2:09:14
Kansas City Sports fans will note the Jack Harry cameo in the background during Reggie's interview with Dane Iorg.
And to think, The Cardinals were two outs away from winning The World Series.
That call at third ....:(
If Keith Hernandez was playing first base, he wouldn't have dropped the pop-up.