NTS System & KSL Shot Cycle | Transfer | Barebow Archery Form Series Ep 7
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- What is the step of Transfer in the KSL Shot Cycle or the @usaarchery NTS System? How can you apply it to barebow archery and how do you actually transfer? I answer this and more in this video including the things that high level archers do while at full draw.
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Set, rise, set-up, load, anchor, transfer
the analogy of cliff jumping is a brilliant way of explaining it... it wasn't until that point that I got it.. ty Jake :)
I shoot traditional recurve (not olympic). Totally agree (especially mental part), thanks , you confirmed me I’m on right road
This is so good anyone that hasn't seen all your videos is missing out on great help.
Thank you very much for taking the time to explain us clearly this internal step.
This was the best way I have heard transfer explained. On the mental side it was gold! Thanks for the information
Thanks so much for this point. I watched this a while back and recently watched it again and this time I was able to intergrade it into my shot cycle and it has been transformative.
That was solid info! Thanks dude!
Great videos and instruction. If I can make one suggestion: When titling your videos of a series, use a common nomenclature. For example, Barebow Form Series: Episode X, followed by the actual title of the lesson. This makes it MUCH easier for viewers to follow in sequence as it brings them up in order in CZcams’s suggested video listings. Or, even when searching your channel for a particular lesson series. In this series for example, the first few where roughly named the same, but then the ordering of the title got screwy and it became difficult to find and follow them in order. Not trying to be negative but just a suggestion to make it easier for those following your lesson series.
Fantastic explanation
Through your videos I find that I am changing my form somewhat and things are improving.
Jake, wonderful example to explain the seamless transition between the two phases and to feel the transfer as a smooth checkpoint without being stuck there!
I will try to condition my mind visualizing that "ready to jump" image in that very moment.
Thanks
Great vid. Thank you.
Your the man master Jake. I'm a novice and this is the step that I hit the center with.
Thanks,
Peace
Al Chelnick
P.s. when my ship comes in I'll slide you some cash 💸
Great explanation of Transfer, especially the mental aspect. I’d always thought Transfer was a just physical step and a subtle one at that. Can’t wait to share this with my students, especially the quickshots who just can’t seem to slow their shot sequence down. Hope you don’ t mind if I quote you verbatim!
Great vid amigo. I remember you used the cliff analogy on the Push podcast. It helped me then and is a nice reminder today.
How do you (in FLA) manage to watch me in my Backyard Agincourt (in England), and then craft CZcams video after CZcams that addresses my 'right now' issue?? It's uncanny - and I could not thank you more for it.
Flip Side: How's Heather getting on? She is soo your "other half" , and I bet others are cryin' out for reports on her progress.
Your content is top-notch: keep it coming 💖💖💖
Going for that slight drop of intensity at transfer is the single most useful and impactful bit of advice I ve ever received (bb or o/recurve) bar none. Why didn't it come from my club coaches 4 years ago? No idea. Once again, many thanks. Awesome videos.
Most coaches haven't shot much in the way of archery themselves, at least in my experience.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Atlanta Olympics was rock bottom for British elite sports. After that humiliation we started funding properly. But there is still way too much of the old 'brave amateurism' at grass roots club level in archery and I suspect at the training of club coaches level too which should be doing way better at finding potential competitors imho
Excellent explanation! Especially the mental aspect of transfer (separation) was new to me and will hopefully help to improve my game. But can you also talk about breathing please. How many breath strokes and when? I absolutely feel that it's an important factor to my shot cycle, but I have no idea whether my breathing is good or not. Thanks!
Thanks Jake, as I'm finding out, transfer along with finishing is the most critical part of the shot... when you get these bits right the arrows seem to go in the gold all by themselves!! Just gotta make it happen every time... ARRGGHHH-CHERY?!
Self control, hardest part about archery.
Ain't that the truth! While you're there Jake... what's your Teespring shirt size?... love to send something to your Cool Stuff PO Box.
Hey Jake, had a quick question for you. After transfer when your mind goes to focusing on the things to finish your shot do your put all your focus on one thing like just your sear or just maintaining good back tension or are your focusing on both? I seem to have better shots when focusing on just the sear but every now and then will have a plucky collapse type release. So was just curious where you are putting your focus after transfer specifically?
Is "transfer" a move to full linear alignment, after coming to anchor?
I have a problem. Just started archery this year, and quickly moved to Barebow afetr going outside in Spring. I shoot right handed with a dominant right eye but have a rather large pointed nose. I don't think my neck turn is that flexible either so when I transfer I can no loner easily see past my nose with my right eye making aiming difficult. Thoughts anyone?
Hi Jake, i'm from Argentina, i really enjoy your videos they are always helpful.
i'm shooting olympic recurve and i would like to read your book tuning for performance but the shipping to my country is twice the price of the book.
i would be thankful if you could sell me a digital copy of it.
Thanks.
In a proper non triggered shot there is no que to release. Anyone who is pursuing that type of shot needs to understand even Jake's Oly form comes through and isn't conducive of a non triggered shot because the amount of tension the NTS creates (by design). That extra tension is manageable with a clicker and maybe with a sear for barebow. The NTS was designed for 70 m meters and 45-50+ pound Olympic recurve but by nature adding poundage you add tension. In barebow we shoot lower poundage for many reasons and that reduction of tension at that 36-42# sweet spot allows the point on distance, ability to reduce tension because of lower draw weight and maintain the "hold through expansion" while letting the tip of the arrow float. Proper alignment is crucial for TP and execution. You have to reduce the tension even more (grip hand, less lower body engagement, deeper hook for some, less head movement) to shoot a proper and consistent non triggered barebow shot which is the method used by the best and most consistent shooters in the world. Not saying that was Jake is saying here isn't accurate it's just not consistent with the top barebow archers in the US and the world in general. ~Frank
Frank,
I hear you there for sure. But I could just lower my draw weight if needed or if affordable. Since I have no limbs that are lighter and no arrows that are weaker, a drop in draw weight would require lots of expense that I am not willing to do. Since lots of recurve shooters probably feel the same way I see higher “tension” being a common thing for most for a while.
However a reduction in tension won’t allow you to just release the string with out a cue. I am a firm believer that those who do extremely well on the current barebow scene are of a special breed. To be able to aim without the need to fire or control the release (those with any form of TP) is not common. And is why the current “form” or processes are popular at the top. As those who have TP learn to manage it, I suspect changes coming to the BB community.
I can’t tell you how many BB shooters tell me they have at least some form of TP. I’ve met a handful of the hundreds I have talked to that don’t, those are always the top shooters. Because they can aim and can brace the bow. But.... they all still creep and some
Still collapse, all from the lack of expansion.
A 6# reduction in my draw weight won’t allow me to hold the bow without losing draw length (creeping) if I just tried to hold it. Due to basic human physiology you will fatigue and you will lose length to the bows limbs which won’t fatigue with time under exertion.
A proper non triggered shot is a thing of beauty but is allusive to the VAST majority. More shooters will be successful and more will come
To barebow teaching a cue.
Because I’m stubborn is why I’m still shooting it. Otherwise I would have given up months again from TP.
Appreciate the detailed and lengthy response.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery definitely not a special breed. Just people want to pigeon hole the idea that “they can’t” shoot that way and just like any other archery discipline when you say you can’t you’re right. So You won’t.
So many refuse to believe that a shooting technique that completely reduces excess tension and movement out of the shot cycle will help them. It’s been engrained in coaches and online on pages just like yours for decades and it’s simply isn’t true. We are listening to people who effectively shoot that way and deciding “well they can’t so I can’t” and it’s BS. You said so yourself you’re stubborn, you just need to be committed to change. You’re not. Remember I am a L4, I’ve trained under Coach Lee and Krueger and understand the pros and cons of NTS very very well.
I can show you four shooters shooting less than 3 years that will prove that theory wrong. One of which holds 8 World Records and it is not Demmer.
It will work for anyone , you have to want the change.
Whether you say “I can” or “I can’t” you’re absolutely right.
~Frank
The mind is powerful, I’ll give you that.
I’ve yet to find ANY way to successfully “cure” target panic outside of a psycho trigger which only deals with the issue not fixes it. Happy to hear of any suggestions you may recommend as I’d rather be able to choose when to shoot for sure.
I think a non triggered shot has the potential to be the best of all options and will score higher then an equally skilled shooter who uses a trigger.
However with that mentality of your response to mine, you will turn off far more then you will who find the “just pull your head out of where the sun doesn’t shine” works for. Which will result in a less competitive and less helpful community.
I see it 3 ways, those who can will, those who can’t will give up and those who will try and struggle will for the majority of their shooting lives.
I’d rather see people work to fix it and create methodology like Joel Turner then 💩 on those who “tell themselves they can’t”.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Let’s not change the words that were said. If a grip sear helps you that’s great, if you are happy with the results of shooting a grip or tab sear by all means awesome. But when you’re not happy and you’re stuck but still want more simply telling people “well only special breeds can shoot this way” hurts the Barebow community. It’s like putting a glass ceiling above everyone. It simply isn’t true and it’s a narrative pushed for reasons I will keep to myself.
As stated above you are stubborn and likely don’t have the time to invest into a complete change from the shot system you learned working with Coach Lee. That’s fine. Sear is a great option and I’m sure you could put time in and make it work at a high level.
But telling everyone “ only certain people can shoot a specific way “ isn’t good for Barebow overall on the international scale and especially here in America. Especially when the information is out there to learn how to do it. It simply isn’t a true statement. Because of your online status people will straight up believe you even with a minimal amount of Barebow experience you have.
Barebow is tough enough and promoting a self defeating notion that you can’t shoot one way or another isn’t what we ever set out to do. ~Frank
What riser is that?
As primarily a trad shooter the concept of letting down is foreign to me... I am assuming this is the step where that usually happens? The intensity comes down and you realize something is off... do I have this right?
The vast majority of let downs in Olympic style recurve come from a post transfer let down, at least for me it does.
Usually it’s for one or many of the following reasons:
Too long of time in expansion (can’t get the clicker to click when it should, usually one of the following occurs as well)
Feeling tension changing out of the norm
Feeling a change In positioning or posture
Loss of tension where it should be
A negative thought
A distracting thought
Anticipation of the clicker or release
Really any deviation that would result in less then a ten being shot.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery Thank you for the insight!