EdgeTX Channel Mapping Masterclass
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Aside from mixer recipes, the most comment questions I get about EdgeTX related to channel mappings--by a country mile. So in this video, we're going to show channel mappings in great detail and I'm bringing RCVR1 to the video so you can see how it works first hand.
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Thanks for all your help!!! I’m transitioning over from Spektrum to EdgeTX and your tutorials are unparalleled!
Glad you like them!
Doing the same, beginning end of this week. How's it going so far, do you understand everything to a certain extent so far?
@@operaswift8623 yes! I’m also getting into ETHOS at the same time and both EdgeTX and ETHOS share some similar concepts.
I’m not entirely getting rid of Spektrum because I have way too much Spektrum gear, but I have more options now.
I realize that these are all basic functions but when you’ve been running spectrum,Futaba ect. type radios for so long it can be a challenge to move forward with a wicked radio like the tx16s.
I’m really enjoying your how to videos so I can make the transition to the tx16s as easy as possible.
Great job and thanks 👍
Thanks for the comment. Glad to help.
Pretty basic stuff that a lot of people have difficulty with. I think the concepts you presented are fundamental to understanding opentx/edgetx. Thanks John!
Agreed. This video was made in response to questions that seem to pop up on a regular basis. I hope this will be a good reference over time for people coming to the platform.
@@RCVideoReviews I think when I started to use OpenTX the thing that really confused me a lot was setting the channel order in the radio settings and the various Multimodule firmware downloads (AETR v. TAER v. blah-blah). Maybe you should cover that in your next Masterclass. I think this really muddies the water for some folks. It was causing me to overthink things quite a bit.
Nice instructional video John. You are the man. Thanks for all you do for us pilots.
Glad to help Bill. Thank you.
Love the 3-D printed RCVR demo plane! Great video.
Thanks! I recently released this model for personal use: czcams.com/video/pnnZsoIRyGM/video.html
Thanks for all of your videos. You were a great help when I first got the TX16S with OpenTX. I recently converted from OpenTX to EdgeTx and again you are a great help. I know that this is strictly a video on how mixes and inputs work, however at min. 13:10 I think you have the rudder throw backwards when mixing ailerons. This is a minor thing and of no concern given the subject matter of this video, but people new to EdgeTX might take your instructions too literally and set up their planes in this manner.
For the beginners out there, the proper mix set up is for the rudder to move towards the UP moving aileron, that way the nose of the airplane is pointed into the bank of the turn that is created by the ailerons.
There's no telling which way is right without seeing it on a plane. Sometimes--depending on the hardware arrangement the sweep moves one way while the rudder moves another. I absolutely cannot account for every different hardware arrangement possible.
In any case, people should make sure their control surfaces move in the proper direction.
Great Video John the fundamental basic of a receiver and transmitter and knowing its you that chooses where you want to plug in great job .
take care
Very nice video with lots of great info. Thanks for all the help. I'm going to build a foam version of the test plane you have for practicing and setting up. II look forward to all your videos!
Glad it was helpful!
Now I get it, no mystery about the mixer page and the relationship to the receiver in the drone.
Always makes me happy to know someone learned something new from my videos. Thanks.
My opinion regarding the title of this video is some information I expected are missing... You explain the relation between mixer and receiver outputs, and stresses that you never leave the mixer tab, but actually I noticed there are other parameter that have in fluence on the channels order, especially the firmware used in the 4in1 RF module (what we can chose in AETR or TAER preset order), and the "disable channel mapping" switch in the model settings which. That's also what I expected to see in this video ;-)
Channel mapping is a Spektrum issue, not an Edge issue and I don't care for or advocate for spektrum.
Default channel order doesn't mean much other than during initial setup. For 99% of people who learn how to use this radio, they will wind up using existing models as templates to copy from in which case channel order means bupkus.
When we make these videos we have to make choices about what's in and what's out. Because if we include every single issue that every single person cares about, the videos would be hours long.
This video should be more than enough to explain channel mapping and to get you on the right track to ask google any remaining questions you have.
@@RCVideoReviews Hum... If it's an "issue" like you say (I'd rather call it a feature), it seems it's not only Spektrum related, as I had also to fiddle channel order with other model/brand than Spektrum. And I'm following several groups on FB where the question of channel mapping is answered quite often because many people are confused about either 4in1 RF module firmware choice and the switch "disable channel mapping, not always Spektrum related). That's precisely why I made some research on that topic to validate my own thoughts. Then I went to this video, which I thought would shed some light on the matter ;)
Excellent Video thank you.
You are welcome!
I think you have very well passed the message !!! Thanks & regards
Useful video ! Thanks John
My pleasure!
Great job, this helped me out. I was totally lost on the mixes
Awesome! Glad to help.
This is VERY helpful! thank so much!
You're very welcome!
Thanks, very important help
You're welcome.
1:10 "When you come from other platforms" Dittos!
I'm only one minute in but that comment above made me post. I'm coming from Spektrum. You admit you don't know Spektrum. Man...from my end, You just don't know how to think to wrap your heard around the box until you repeat and fail repeat and fail and then get it.
In short order on Spektrum I was flying same day. I made mixes. I could make coordinated turns. I added flaperons to a bind and fly sailplanes. You could trim out the elevators when adding flaps.Throttle shutoff was easy. Navigating the Spektrum receiver was easy. I've had my RX16S for 3 weeks and have yet to successfully navigate the box.
I hope I can after watching the rest of the video. ;-)
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EDIT:
WHY YES! I enjoyed the video! I like it when you get pissed. ;-)
For me...I'm going to make up a mock plane as you've shown with a motor circuit to help teach me. I was advised on another video to leave the throttle wide open while binding a Spektrum receiver so that the system know where 100% throttle is. Glad I didn't believe it....and didn't get cut.
Headed out to the shop. I'm programming a jailbroke bind and fly AX-631 from a Night Radion....If successful I'll come back and worship your page! ;-)
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EDIT ONE HOUR LATER: A guy named Mikey in RadioMasters Owner Group told me the relations between AETR and receiver positions ...I was overthinking. Using what I learned here all the control surfaces are working properly. Got to adjust for flaperons, AS3x and Safe and on on my way! Thanks!
Very well done. I now understand the concept.
Great! Once you get the relationship between inputs, mixes, and outputs, all the lights start going on.
Congratulations and thank you!
Thanks
Thank you 👏I have finally cleared up my ideas
You’re welcome 😊
another super helpful video, thanks!
You're very welcome!
Thank you for these videos. Really big help
You're very welcome!
Very useful info. I'd love someone else's opinion on mixing in inputs vs mixing in mixer and some different uses for each. I have used both methods for some things. That would be another interesting one.
I generally avoid using inputs for anything but defining inputs including dual rates.
Monty Python once said:
"The Royal soceity of putting THINGS on top of other THINGS"
How about a tutorial on that receiver. How the stablizing works and how to turn it off and on. Thanks John. This was a great tutorial.
Right here: Radiomaster TX16s and FrSky S6R / S8R Setup Guide [Quick Mode] • [Intermediate]
czcams.com/video/BObseyO1cjE/video.html
@@RCVideoReviews That is awsome. I gave up on that receiver because I could not find good information on it. Thanks for you help.
Hi, could you please show how to setup flaperons? Thanks
Nice and easy explanation. But instill don't get the output screen. Lol
Hey! Thanks for a great video. Would you consider to share STLs for RCVR1 wouldn't mind at all to have one. Thanks
Really great video, but one thing you said isn’t completely true. Like you, I believed that AETR or TAER etc didn’t really matter, apart from it being the default channel order when creating a new model. But I found out this week that it’s not the case - when using DSM/DSMX with a multi-protocol module, including the internal module on the RM radio. Read this, it surprised me and I think it’ll surprise you too …
“The module will take whatever input channel order you have choosen and will rearrange them to match the output channel order required by the selected protocol.”…
“Unless Channel Re-mapping is disabled, the radio model's channel order must match the Expected Channel Order of the MULTI-Module, which is AETR by default. See the Channel Order page for more details.
By default the MULTI-Module will expect channels in the module's Expected Channel Order, and will convert them into TAER order automatically.” www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/protocol-details/dsm
I didn’t neglect to mention it. That is a DSM convention, not an EdgeTX convention. If I had to document the specific conventions for all of the protocols usable in MPM there would be no video like this.
Also, frankly, I really don’t use Spektrum gear so I don’t address their limitations. Edge and MPM make accommodations in their code to accommodate DSM but that has zero to do with the organic behavior of the radio demonstrated in this video.
I’ve spent a fair amount of time looking through the code on MPM and even produced a video showing how to compile custom versions of it. But thanks for sharing the link…
@@RCVideoReviews thanks for the reply. I’ve looked more into this and it doesn’t just affect Spektrum. By default MPM will convert the channels over to the default channels of any protocol, but there is an option in the EdgeTX/OpenTX receiver menu to override this default.
@@martinrcflyer4089 My point exactly. The MPM isn't really Edge and Edge isn't MPM. They are discreet. Edge "doesn't care" about channel names. Outside protocols might and Edge provides accommodation for them.
Thank you for posting that link, I was trying to setup a UMX Night Vapor on a TX16S and couldn't figure out what was going on. It has 3 control surfaces so I moved the rudder to the right stick and since it's Spektrum I set the channels as TAER but it wouldn't work on DSMX. I set the order back to AETR, 4 channel with aileron and it bound and worked as it should.
Super helpful! The part where you fumbled with the wires reminds me of a scene from Idiocracy. "Wait, no this one goes in your butt and this one goes in your mouth"
lol
Do you have a video about programming thrust vectoring? I have Jets and can figure out the canards, but not the mix for rudder and yaw thrust.
I do not. Just remember when it comes to mixing:
Identify the thing that "needs to be fixed"
Identify the thing that "does the fixing"
So if you have a thrust vector servo, that's what needs to be fixed.
Yaw (rudder) is the thing that does the fixing.
So your mix would be:
Chx - Thrust Vector Yaw Servo Weight 100%
Chx - Rudder Servo Weight 20% (or something much smaller)
Thank you
You're welcome
Wow, this is really simple! Thank you a ton!.
So, about those mixer recipies you hinted at? I'd love to wrap my head around custom mix recipie with stabilizer? like let's say i have both ailerons and tailerons, and i want to use a stabilizer too? and for giggles, mix in a tiny bit of rudder with aileron (roll) inputs? Real world example would be an F-14... nevermind the wing sweep and full flap mixes, i can figure those out if i can get the main roll mix down. Is it even possible?
edit: well, i just found your other mixing video... you guys are awesome!
Where can the RCVR1 purchase ? Apreciate this channel Thanks for being here.
It cannot be purchased. Sorry.
can you hlep, when my throttle stick is all way down, the engine comes off and when i move stick up, no change, not sure what is going on, edge tx16s MKII with ar 631 and extra 300 bnf plane
but in this mode the multimodule firmware (AETR) does not correspond to the order used?
i use firmware AETR multimodule but spirit gt it doesn't work this way.
i changhe firmware multimodule in TAER and after changhe all memory model ?
Hi John, I can't get my auto level function to work on channel 5. I have assigned the the channel from AUX1 to AIL2 with no result. Channel 1 (AIL) and 2 (ELV) function as expected in this mode I'm wondering if a particular channel configuration is required to link channel 5 to auto level functionality? I have the SA switch set as my auto level. Your videos are excellent by the way.
Join my discord and ask this question there. Too much back and forth required to solve this and YT is a terrible platform for such dialogue. The radio doesn't know or care what auto level is. If you're sending a signal on Ch5, then it's up to your FC (which you didn't identify) to react to your mode commands.
Join discord for further discussion.
Very well explained , what receiver is that
That is a FrSky S6R. Thanks for watching.
Sure, just bought the TX16 . So happy for all your insightful videos I have learnt so much . I bought an Xfly Glaster and placed an AR631 in it from crashed areoscout . The maiden was not good , luckily I only walked away with a broken prop. How would I active safe with the tx16 ? Will a mix be used for that ? At the end of the day I am a new pilot and I am just looking a receiver that works well with the tx16 and that has some kind of flight assist to help my learning process.
Thanks
I wanted to comment on this video. I thought I knew how to setup an airplane, and I have seen this video before. Your teaching skills are excellent. You made this content about a simple as if it were about making a ham sandwich. Here comes my frustration. I have 4 other planes on this radio, so I thought this would be just another plane setup. I tried everything, but when I power on, nothing works right. My elevator vibrates, no ailerons, and a hard over rudder. Any thoughts?
Sounds like a channel map problem. Spektrum RX? Do you have another RX you can try? Also, get on discord. More likely to get more help there.... Link is in every video description I post.
@@RCVideoReviews Thank you sir. What I did was change receiver range from 1 to 12 to 1 to 6. It bound. Thanks again
Very Informative. I am having a terrible time setting up my power glider (HK Excalibur). To be sure i'm on the same page, I have a non-stabilizer receiver. Is it still pin one = channel 1and so on? My receiver is also labeled with channel names, TAER.
I know it's true for D16 rx's. Other brands, I'm not sure. It might take some experimenting.
Sorry but for a V-tail how can I do? Thanks and greetings from Italy
question, i reversed the servo on edge tx so that aileraon goes right direction, however when i view the bar on edge tx if i move stick to right, the bar moves left but aileron is moving correct position, is that normal set up?
If you reverse an output it's normal for the mixer to show one direction and the output to show the other. As long as you reversed it in outputs and you visibly confirm the correct movement you should be fine.
Bad ass
Thanks
I put lights on my elechawk lights on my plane and was controlling the with aux 1 on my spectrum radio. And i cant get them to function on my radiomaster tx16s running edge tx. I tried setting it to channel 5 and can't get it to work to save my life. Your help is much appreciated!
Do I need to setup logical switch?
You don't say what RX you're using. That would help. This is solved in the mixer. Mixers connect channel assignments in the radio to pins on the Rx. So find an open PWM pin, say Ch5. Go in the mixer on Line 5 and add a switch. Verify output my opening the channel monitor and flipping the switch. You should see a ppmus change from 998us to 2012us. When you see that, your light controller should do something.
You also don't mention what light controller you're using or what the controller expects for pulsewidth in order to change states.
I'll be happy to discuss further on discord if you still can't work it out. Invite is in every video I post.
I'm using elechawk ordered from Amazon. Using it on a lemon 6 channel receiver.
I don't know the pulse width though I don't think they specify on pulse width.
@RCVideoReviews mannnnnn I figured it out had to assign a switch to channel 6 on the mixer page and make it act. I feel accomplished.lol thanks buddy and keep up the awesome videos!!!!
I would like to recreate the model airplane for my own experiments. Is this available on Thingiverse or elsewhere?
czcams.com/users/livepnnZsoIRyGM
Hey John...I have a whoop on my tx16s radio...2.7 edgetx...right now my channel order is RETA...I want AETR...how do I move my channels around in the mixes screen so I have the correct order
Just change the source in each mix line.
In your system settings you can specify the default channel order for new models.
@@RCVideoReviews ok...thanks...really like your channel...very helpful info
Hi! I’d like to ask you where did you get your 3D printed model plane for setting servo mixes?
I made it.
Is the 3D printed test rig available for us to print?
On my discord in the #3d-printers channel.
I wander if anyone can help me, I am relatively new to edge tx, I have two models one is a sport cub s2 plane and the other is a OMP M1 helicopter with an external mini s-fhss module plugged into the sbus port. The issue I have is every time I want to fly the sport cub I have to go into firmware and change it for the TAER .bin file and then to fly the OMP M1, I have to write the AETR firmware. I know this can be sorted so I don’t have to rewrite the firmware every time I fly but I can’t get my head around what I need to do to fix this, any help would be appreciated. Thanks
You need to join discord and ask there. Link is in description of every video I post.
Quick answer: No, you 100000% absolutely do not need to flash different firmware for each flight. Something is dramatically not right with your setup.
@@RCVideoReviews ok thanks
But it would be possible, to just use the stick - instead of the stick-input on the mixer page. So why use the inputs definitions, when you don't need them? EDIT: ok maybe because like something like: "EdgeTX Dual Rates Belong in Inputs NOT Mixer" video.
Would moving channels around affect global setting?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Normally global functions don't allow specific channel references.
Hope you're willing to help.
Help!
How do you set up the 6g/3D function,
With a two position switch?
Xk X6 is the radio I'm using.
I need the gyro function.
Thanks
Marc Lugo
Great useful video ! Thanks John
You’re very welcome.