The bravery required for live demo on stair and railings is no joke! A good overview, and glad you didn't skirt around the limitations and issues with the tool whilst still taking constructive angles on ways to wrestle with it.
@@TheRevitKid thanks, all going well! Planning to return to YT early 2023, just finished a move interstate so my life found that little bit of free time again. Happy holidays to yourself and the family, look forward to more great content in 2023!
very interesting for all the people fighting against this family category that i think it is one of the most complicated ones. I would really want to participate some day here and show a few tricks to the mep community because i have get out of the box in revit connectors a few times
Interesting, I am in the process of developing a stair and railing course, but even in the Revit arch courses I run or in the conversation of Revit... I do say one could probably do fairly okay as a contractor that specialises in nothing but the stair and railing tool haha. Good content as always!
I'm pretty good at stairs, but there was one guy who was a bit too next-level, even for me. He suggested building a monolithic stair for the concrete stair structure (neck etc.), then pasted the same stair again ON TOP OF IT and changed that to a non-monolithic stair (you may have to move it in front of the stair, to the thickness of your riser finish panel), only without the concrete base. So he essentially separated the concrete structure of the stair and the riser and tread panels of the stair. That way, you can accurately do a concrete set-out plan in Revit and hide the non-monolithic stair on top of it when you need the concrete plan. It's the same concept as splitting your walls into structural/cladding/lining/partitions, and joining your concrete floors to your finish 'floors'. I still like the detail at scales below 1:20 rule. But it was a good idea for accurate concrete drawings.
@TheRevitKid this is excellent, as highly recommended by my CAD instructor. I have a better understanding on how to pay more attention to how the cursor is moving and what it creates. I completed some correctly finished basic drawings (no environment). I noticed this and it created a question that I asked while working on a live project. Why does Revit not stack or align the bottom of the stringer with the top of the skirting, and why does the skirting not follow the profile of the rise and the tread? No one would build a staircase like that in the field. I was warned not to get so involved in the details (hard not to do) since I am not an architect nor am I building the stairs. But, it just looks so wrong to me. Is there a way to change it somehow so it correctly executes it, or is a quick fix to fix it after drawing them? Thanks!
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Thks Paul, this is amazing. Is there a way to get this amazing escalator model shared somwhere i find this very useful video and example. Cheers!
Yeah, basically the Stair tool sucks! But you guys have it easy. I work with 3D Laser Scanning and the creation of as-built stairs. Try using these tools when stairs aren't uniform, they don't follow code, and they don't even have rhyme or reason. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Unfortunately, the ladder tool is only an architectural tool, the designer needs to develop everything from scratch for the calculation in the specification. This applies to prefabricated and metal stairs.
Hii ,can u pls explain ,In Baluster placement(Railling), why that start pattern and end patterns are N/A & distance from previous is only editable in end pattern why cant in start pattern ,,if possible how to activate that distance from previous in start pattern
Hey Jeff! Great video as always and super helpful. I just ordered a BimBox laptop and was wondering what kind of laptop stand you use for yours? I want to make sure I’m buying something solid to support the big purchase. Thanks!
Thanks for tuning in! I am using this one with the 17” BIMBOX …. It does a great job cooling and is very quiet (plus the lights are cool). It has a little “bounce” so may not be as solid as you want but I have been using it for almost 9 months now with no issue. amzn.to/3GwnFm8
in any given project, 2 things give me anxiety when using revit, stairs and railings, i've been using it since 2010, in fact paul f. aubin was one the few guru's that i followed.
that's not the best response, revit is just fabulous when you correctly use it, it's just that the stair and railing tools plus the site tools are terrible, many times i need to use in-place models to be able to document correctly and be able to respond to the client's needs.
To do detailed stairs like that would have a very high LOD which is not common unless for shop drawings. I never cut a detail from a model it's always 2D. There are consequences cutting a detail from model once the model change all your details are crewed.
Paul and I agree with most of your sentiment … but, Paul was clear in using “hybrid” sections because you WANt to see when the model changes so you can update your details … the amount of change orders I see on a weekly basis that could have been resolved with the detail was hybrid and not completely drafted in a void of model would amaze people
@@bulkarchitects635 sorry, but I don’t agree in calling a soft software outright useless because it doesn’t have one or two wishlist items. Thats very short sighted, IMhO.
The bravery required for live demo on stair and railings is no joke!
A good overview, and glad you didn't skirt around the limitations and issues with the tool whilst still taking constructive angles on ways to wrestle with it.
Cheers, Gavin! I agree! Thanks for tuning in… hope all is well!
@@TheRevitKid thanks, all going well! Planning to return to YT early 2023, just finished a move interstate so my life found that little bit of free time again.
Happy holidays to yourself and the family, look forward to more great content in 2023!
@@AussieBIMGuru Great, looking forward to it! Reach out to me when you are settled!
I really admire Paul Aubin! He is a real master Revit! Cheers, Jeff!
Cheers! Agreed!
Paul Aubin.It very nice to see him here.The man I've learned Revit from
very interesting for all the people fighting against this family category that i think it is one of the most complicated ones. I would really want to participate some day here and show a few tricks to the mep community because i have get out of the box in revit connectors a few times
Shoot me an email!
For some reason I have been missing your live video notifications and man I wish I had caught this when it was live
You have to subscribe and hit the notification bell on CZcams 😉
@@TheRevitKid I am subscribed and my bell is lit up. I’m not why I missed it. But oh well it was good to see the replay
Interesting, I am in the process of developing a stair and railing course, but even in the Revit arch courses I run or in the conversation of Revit... I do say one could probably do fairly okay as a contractor that specialises in nothing but the stair and railing tool haha. Good content as always!
Cheers! Thanks for tuning in! You could definitely get A LOT out of the stair tool… but it is NOT perfect…
I'm pretty good at stairs, but there was one guy who was a bit too next-level, even for me. He suggested building a monolithic stair for the concrete stair structure (neck etc.), then pasted the same stair again ON TOP OF IT and changed that to a non-monolithic stair (you may have to move it in front of the stair, to the thickness of your riser finish panel), only without the concrete base. So he essentially separated the concrete structure of the stair and the riser and tread panels of the stair. That way, you can accurately do a concrete set-out plan in Revit and hide the non-monolithic stair on top of it when you need the concrete plan. It's the same concept as splitting your walls into structural/cladding/lining/partitions, and joining your concrete floors to your finish 'floors'.
I still like the detail at scales below 1:20 rule. But it was a good idea for accurate concrete drawings.
Interesting approach!
@TheRevitKid this is excellent, as highly recommended by my CAD instructor. I have a better understanding on how to pay more attention to how the cursor is moving and what it creates. I completed some correctly finished basic drawings (no environment). I noticed this and it created a question that I asked while working on a live project. Why does Revit not stack or align the bottom of the stringer with the top of the skirting, and why does the skirting not follow the profile of the rise and the tread? No one would build a staircase like that in the field. I was warned not to get so involved in the details (hard not to do) since I am not an architect nor am I building the stairs. But, it just looks so wrong to me. Is there a way to change it somehow so it correctly executes it, or is a quick fix to fix it after drawing them? Thanks!
Thks Paul, this is amazing. Is there a way to get this amazing escalator model shared somwhere i find this very useful video and example. Cheers!
Yeah, basically the Stair tool sucks! But you guys have it easy. I work with 3D Laser Scanning and the creation of as-built stairs. Try using these tools when stairs aren't uniform, they don't follow code, and they don't even have rhyme or reason. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Unfortunately, the ladder tool is only an architectural tool, the designer needs to develop everything from scratch for the calculation in the specification. This applies to prefabricated and metal stairs.
Can you do a tutorial for spiral stairs in revit please? and how to make a platform at each level?
Can you share the model? It’s useful to see the settings
Hii ,can u pls explain ,In Baluster placement(Railling), why that start pattern and end patterns are N/A & distance from previous is only editable in end pattern why cant in start pattern ,,if possible how to activate that distance from previous in start pattern
Your tips are amazing, thank you. Would it be possible to change the landing and run to mesh flooring?
Yes… well, in “textures” it’s easy but much harder if you want a mesh in 3D completely…
Hey Jeff! Great video as always and super helpful. I just ordered a BimBox laptop and was wondering what kind of laptop stand you use for yours? I want to make sure I’m buying something solid to support the big purchase.
Thanks!
Thanks for tuning in! I am using this one with the 17” BIMBOX …. It does a great job cooling and is very quiet (plus the lights are cool). It has a little “bounce” so may not be as solid as you want but I have been using it for almost 9 months now with no issue. amzn.to/3GwnFm8
Great! Thank you!
@@brianwisner2073 no problem!
i dont beleive its unreasonable expecations. Its an expensive program you pay tons of money for, programs like Vectorworks does stairs amazing.
…Archicad is also way better for such things. Revit should go back the drawing board so to speak.
in any given project, 2 things give me anxiety when using revit, stairs and railings, i've been using it since 2010, in fact paul f. aubin was one the few guru's that i followed.
So…. Use vectorworks then! 😜
@@justinkennedy5405 so…. Use ArchiCAD then… 😉
that's not the best response, revit is just fabulous when you correctly use it, it's just that the stair and railing tools plus the site tools are terrible, many times i need to use in-place models to be able to document correctly and be able to respond to the client's needs.
out of context , your face is so close to MO Salah 🙂
As a Manchester united fan.... i can't say that I take that as a compliment. 😂
@@TheRevitKid😂
it baffles the mind how bad stairs and railings are in revit and we are on version 23 with the same problems since version 1
As an archicad user i was impress and amazed.
To do detailed stairs like that would have a very high LOD which is not common unless for shop drawings. I never cut a detail from a model it's always 2D. There are consequences cutting a detail from model once the model change all your details are crewed.
Paul and I agree with most of your sentiment … but, Paul was clear in using “hybrid” sections because you WANt to see when the model changes so you can update your details … the amount of change orders I see on a weekly basis that could have been resolved with the detail was hybrid and not completely drafted in a void of model would amaze people
The best stair model I have is to copy the arch'l stairs into structural monolithic stairs. boom. sorry folks I am into structures here.. hehe
Would it be possible for you or Paul to share the stair system family so we could reverse-engineer all the tricks explained here? Thanks
What a useless sofware. Revit
what a useless comment. 😁 thanks for watching, anyways.
@@TheRevitKid revit doesn't let you draw proper stairs, screeds or tiles, and you can't connect landings to walls that we have to do manually.
@@bulkarchitects635 sorry, but I don’t agree in calling a soft software outright useless because it doesn’t have one or two wishlist items. Thats very short sighted, IMhO.