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Finnish Brutality 2021 Day 1: Featuring The Infamous Trench Stage!
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Finnish Brutality took place on October 23 and 24 of this year, at the Loppi shooting range northeast of Helsinki. It was run by Varusteleka, the largest and definitely the awesomest military and outdoor supplier in Europe - in collaboration with Sako, Mil-Safarit, Sisu, InRangeTV, Bloke on the Range, Polenar Tactical, and Forgotten Weapons.
It was the best Brutality match yet run, with some really outstanding stage challenges! The weather hovered right around freezing the whole time, with intermittent rain, snow, and wind. The organization by Varusteleka was truly a model to be emulated, with sufficient Range Officer staffing to allow both days to run perfectly on time (actually, we finished slightly early on the 24th!), without the shooters being required to do any set up, reset, scoring, or other ancillary work aside from shooting the stages. This despite it including two armored vehicle props, one moving vehicle to shoot from, a water hazard, and a blind stage.
I used my WWSD2020 carbine and a Bul Armory M5 (9mm double-stack polymer-framed 1911) for the match. I started off with the brilliant idea to wear a Finnish camouflage kilt, having not quite recognized how cold it was going to be. I stuck with that plan through the infamous trench stage, and then switched to dry pants with some of Varusteleka's merino wool long underwear (and lots of layered merino wool up top to match) and was nice and comfortable through the rest of the match.
This was truly the most mentally and physically challenging match I have yet shot, and it was a fantastic experience. Only Desert Brutality matches come close...but I hope more match directors will take note of the appeal of both the physically difficult elements and also the effort put into planning and logistics and make more matches like this turn up in the US!
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What no link to the kilt?
Fixed. :)
www.varusteleka.com/en/product/jama-kilt/64426
@@ForgottenWeapons thanks
@@ForgottenWeapons thanks. It's nice to see there are a few other people in the world with some taste.
As someone who wears a Utilikilt workman almost every single day I greatly appreciate the modernized utility kilts. An I have several from a few different places and I might need to add on of these to my collection.
Also if you're interested in camo Kilts I'd take a look at Stumptown Kilts as well. They have rip stop digital camo Kilts as well as an awesome M81 woodland style twill kilt.
I bet ian was glad when the water trench section was Finnished.
@@ForgottenWeapons you brought your AR to Finland???
If you ever mistake Ian's humble and modest demeanor for weakness, just remember: this guy wore a fucking kilt to Finnish Brutality.
I met the guy and exchanged a few words. I can tell you the way he carries himself, there's not a hint of weakness. He's just well spoken and collected person.
"The kilt probably wasn't the best choice."
Every scotsman ever.
@Gerardo Dibbert it's still better than what's there now 😂
Some heavy wool, knee-high socks with a thermal compression short, and he would have been good.
@@SpartacusColo Yeah, kilt doesn't mean bare legged, yes even traditionally.
He is missing the knee high wool socks.
If you are in the water, Wear as little as possible if you can't wear a drysuit.
Now strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. But an Ian lying in a water logged trench distributing WWSDs I can get around to.
Reference taken and appreciated.
What is the carrying capacity of an unlaiden French Jesus?
@@frogonsizeablelog Low countries or Alps?
"It was colder than what I initially anticipated"
Welcome to Finland, Ian
I was more thinking "That's what Stalin found"
Seems likes six months of the year the weather could qualify as Finnish Brutality.
@@davidcox3076 We can tell from the type of snow how cold it is. This isn't cold. When it's powdery, it's getting nippy.
@@davidcox3076 Nah, that's Finnish Normality. Only foreigners consider it brutal. ;-)
The water was mid 30°? That's quite wa-
"Oh crap, Ian is American"
"Oh crap! It's Fahrenheit."
Quick google later:
"Damn, that shit cold"
Around 0° C
30°F equals -1°C ( -1,11°C) or 272K
There was ice on the water when Jeni went in. That means 32F at the waist and a max of 4C (
@@myparceltape1169
She went in the day after which was colder.
@@onpsxmember Sorry, I didn't know about the air temperature.
Just thought the water filled trench was relevant and the condition was observable.
"heat of the moment" is about about as warm as your are going to get while doing this
@@TSKNBgaming i think you would be fun at parties. if some people don't, then you need a better sort of party.
@@shinget I think you are a very kind human being and your presence is amazing.
@@shinget yeah, some people think appreciating a joke forbids you from bringing up something interesting related to it.
That "shooting the wood by accident" issue seems to be the kind of thing that would be pretty common in a real fight.
Yup
Saw a video about a incident where that happened to an officer engaging armed shooters; kept hitting the wall instead of shooting over it. In the heat of the moment, never even noticed.
Ian was definitely one of those kids at school who wore shorts in freezing temperatures mid winter and somehow wasn’t cold
i dunno about freezing but legs dry quicker than trousers
Surprisingly keeping the upper body warm is more important than the legs. And feet of course since moving on freezing feet is hell.
They called him Ian "Mallard" McCollum.
He’s only cold when it’s cool to be cold.
I work with one of those, been solidly below 0°F every morning all week and there he is walking out to his bus in khaki shorts. He’s lucky they start the buses for us about an hour before we arrive.
It is true that if you keep moving, the legs will take care of themselves for the most part; but I prefer having a couple layers on em if it gets anywhere below 0°F.
I once walked past the Fort Richardson, Alaska gate thermometer with just jeans on my legs when it said -26°F, but I was feeling like needles were poking into my thighs whilst doing it.
Respect. Stones out in freezing water, scoring hits...legend
Agreed. Total Legend!
Of course Ian is wearing a kilt. His last name is McCollum after all. 😁👍
Tactical kilt
@@sierracosta47 couldnt be in any other way
I wouldn't recommend wearing a camouflage kilt in actual Scotland. The last guy I saw doing that got chased out of a pub by locals who were pointing and laughing.
@@matthewlovibond900 why? Aint kilts a scotish thing? Like as an argie if you went to uni or a pub with that people may laugh but not throw you out, people would most likely get beaten up for laughing at you
@Christie Malry almost looks like canadian MARPAT
Hello there.
A Kilt wearing tip for "colder" conditions.
1. A heavier Kilt with thicker material.
2. Combine the Kilt with long, thick socks or thick calf warmers if you don't like thicker socks. Above this you wear army gaiters. I prefer the old ones, like the Swiss army gaiters.
I'm not scottish or a sports shooter, but I love to hike in a Kilt, even in winter conditions, never had any issues.
AND if you want to go the extra step, add an old school british army kilt cover made from heavy canvas. This is how they did it in WW1.
A kilt wearing tip for "colder" condtions......DON'T, WHAT THE HELL'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?
Orrrrrr wear trousers.
@@taggartlawfirm borrrrring😁
@@taggartlawfirm and less comfortable.
@@papaaaaaaa2625 may be but think about your poor family jewels , man! 😂
Kudos to whomever filmed that for not showing us Ian's junk....
Would've been embarassing if we saw the ultimate Forgotten Weapon... :/
@@neilcook4686 the *forbidden* weapon.
@@neilcook4686 being a married man myself it's usually a good time getting reacquainted with the wife after a business trip....
To the Gentlemen and Ladies that liked and replied to my comment, tusen takk, and all be well ;)
Oh the trench stage was called Konnunsuo, which does not only translate as "Swamp of the Shire", but is an actual swamp in Eastern Finland. I have some very bad memories wading through that particular swamp. 😅
It is also the name of a village and a prison located there.
Why would you tease us with great stories and not share them?
@@Howjadoo22 well, the story is not so great in written form, to be honest. 😃But there is this military event held quite regularly around that area and the terrain there is just shitfuck to cross over. The idea with the event is to basically orienteer yourself from point to point until you reach the goal, and you have 24 hrs to do this. The distance to be covered is something around 55-80 km, depending on your chosen track and the "mission parameters" given at the checkpoints. Well, there are thick (!) forests, very unpleasant clearings, tall hills and a LOT of swamps. When you're about armpit deep in a freezing cold swamp, you just hope to die as quickly as possible.
I've been to the event a few times, never reached the finish line. Varusteleka team has managed to finish at least once I think.
@@oscarn- This is very close to what our marches was like. First we did it as a full company. And later we all did it again as a scout patrol(just 2 of us). #OhiOn
I'm kinda on the fence about the kilt.
The good: extra points for style.
The bad: frostbitten legs requiring amputation.
Tough choice.
I don't really know if pants would have helped. Wool pants can help you retain body heat when wet - unless you are constantly moving in the water. If the water is moving, it carries the heat away not matter what. Ripstop cotton is completely worthless at holding heat when wet. The only think that might had helped is some sort of water-proof layer and I don't think anyone was going to that extreme.
A genuine kilt is really thick and heavy so it's actually quite warm, and your legs would be heavily wrap to knees/just above the knees
Three minutes of zero degrees water or rain won't be enough to cause harm to a moving man or youth.
And it saves on the dry clothing.
Its a no brainer, style over hypothermia obviously
synthetic fleece. I was river kayaking "far off-season" and fell in before I got proficient in the Eskimo roll. Perfectly warm and then I realized my sleeves were still soaked. I squeezed out the water, but didn't have to as I was comfortable and warm otherwise.
The kilt in the water-filled trench serves as camouflage--it resembles a water Lilly. Very clever, Ian, very clever.
Never seen a water lily with a goatee LOL
The heat of the moment was removed as soon as you hit the water.
I appreciate that all of the content creators staggered their videos out over the span of a week so the audiences weren't overwhelmed with watching the same stuff.
The kilt gives +10% accuracy.
At a cost of 30% ...other things.
If this was XCOM he'd get a boost to his mobility and defence, but he would be more vulnerable to grenades (on account of the weak under-armour). And fire.
Needs gear synergy bonus with Claymore and Whisky Bottle.
Or a minus 10% to the enemy as they go “WTF?”
+10% accuracy.
-20% environmental protection.
Wearing a kilt in freezing weather... the Scottish part of my family salutes you. The Danish/Norwegian part of my family says Hva pokker! The Canadian part my my family says Tabarnak. The English side of my family says something about Damn Scots and something about a battle I've never heard of. Great run.
The Finnish side says: "Nuts!"
"It's really hard to get a good camera angle..." Considering the fact that you were wearing a kilt, I think many of us are glad that there wasn't a "good camera angle" on that first firing position...
"This is going to be brutal. Whats's my strategy? Imma leave my pants at home."
the world needs to understand Swamp Brutality, I wonder if there are any ranges in the Southeast who'll enable that.
Complete with the occasional alligator attack 😂
A lot of ranges down here are built in or near lowlands because nobody else will build there. So there are probably some.
@@birbdad1842 Your second gun would need to be a pistol with fast heavy bullets.
Yah, sure, but for real Brutality, need to run it in July or August mid-day. I'll shoot Cajun division, complete with white shrimper's boots and overalls.
Cola Warrior.
It was my pleasure to meet you and witness your performance on these stages.
I think the kilt helped a lot with wading through the trench. Trousers would have more resistance.
Lol it looks like the kilt is slowing him down in the truck because he doesn’t want to flash anyone.
Just being in a shooting competition is not an excuse to be improper. Knees together and mind the wind.
Wears a camo-kilt in freezing Finnish winter and says "the crawling was fun"..he is not competely right in the head is he :p
He is left handed.
He is a Scotsman!
Freezing finnish weather? Not even close.
@@pirkkaruuska5766 I knew you were Finnish before I saw your name :) I know I know er can stil see the tops of the trees, so almost summer :D
Finns, worlds happiest nation... Ian got infection of that. Btw weather is plausible for midsummer feast.
The artic kilt helps lift and tuck Ian's massive metallic balls. Imparts +1 agility.
The last barrel in the 1st stage was chopped of by shooting about 100-200 shots with ar15 by Jari from Varusteleka and one other guy.
It looks like the blind stage was the best training for self-defense shooting.
3:50 Certified Finnish conscript tent experience during winter classic.
It actually speaks to the quality of these stages that you ran into exactly the same problems any infantry soldier runs into during their training. Muzzle clear, having your rifle combat ready, the crawling and being surprised by how hard that is, several other issues you mentioned... this is a very very nice setup and really makes you hit the same problems a real infantyman run into. I remember all these issues very well :) And well done :D And I know exactly what you mean by this being rewarding. When I had my 13 week platoon leader training I didn't do as well as I wanted to in a lot of things, but it was the most rewarding 13 weeks of my life :) And I know exactly how all of this stuff feels :) Those 13 weeks were also in bavarian winter, at times below -10° C with lots of snow. You did really well for someone with zero military training. The issues ran into are so common, it really takes some experience to avoid those. You'll improve :) Great job :)
I laughed so goddamn hard when Ian jumped in the trench and the Kilt ballooned up. That instantly made my week, thank you.
Ian, as an Irishman, and not a Scott. I'm still very impressed that you opted for the Kilt. You honor our namesake lol
as a fellow scotsman, i approve the tactical kilt
I was hoping for this to be uploaded. Really nice to see what was going on in the stages, there was some great variance with people. The In Range footage seemed very straightforward which probably didn't show the full reality of the possible difficulties. I wasn't too surprised that you were strong in the very physical stages and can benefit from athleticism.
I don't envy having to kneel in the snow without any pants.
Bloke on the Range uploaded an video with Jennifer, who DQ-ed on stage 1. She still got to shoot some of the stages. Pretty good video.
Gun Jesus amazes us again with his ability to be a soldier in a dress.
Excuse me sir but have you heard of the roman legions ? ;)
Don't forget the Greek Phalanx
A Kilt!
You're now officially on my top ten over the coolest people in the world...!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed living vicariously through that match with you, Ian! Thank you!
".... I could have made the 13 hits, I made more than 13 shots which is rather disappointing to me"
Yeah, I mean you were balls deep in ice cold water Ian. Don't be too hard on yourself, that is not at all easy.
Best male guntuber: Ian McCollum
Best Female guntuber: Ian McCollum in the first few stages at Finnish Brutality 2021
Good Lord! A kilt and freezing mud up to your you know what’s. Hanging out with Finns looks like being hazed by a fraternity
It would be but Russians invading means being nice during training doesn't help.
You did great! Watching you get progressively better at these range trials every year is encouraging!
Probably already been said: worried for a minute there we'd catch a glimpse of Ian's Forgotten Weapon...
In the trench you got just a taste of what the Scottish regiments in 1914 were dealing with that first winter in the trenches. Good show Ian.
The tactikilt!
Animals are just over 20% efficient coinventing food energy to movement. Thus, in events like this one a person is generating heat energy in the realm of a space heater. The instant one stops the heat production slows and one can get teeth chattering cold really fast.
This should have been titled. Finnish Brutality 2021 Frozen Sausage Stage!!!
Could you some time introduce the stage staff's device they use for apparently timing, for people who haven't been to gun matches? It's not a regular stopwatch definitely, does it have more functionality? The staff also often holds it up high behind the shooter as well, or right next to their head.
Here's a good overview: www.shootingillustrated.com/content/5-best-shot-timers-on-the-market-today/
@@ForgottenWeapons Thank you very much!
The problem with hitting your own cover with the rifle is a problem you need to experience and adapt to. It was easier not to hit it when you use iron sights as the barrel is much closer to the sights.
What I started to do, is to ALWAYS put my hand first at the cover and then the rifle in the hand. There you have a 1 or 2 cm height naturally that usually get the barrel over.
If the cover have higher obstructions for the barrel, I put my forearm at the nearest edge and adjust the resting point to heighten or lower the barrel.
EDIT: Btw, looks really fun!
They clearly wanted to Finnish Him in stage 2.
I'll see myself out.
I love your dedication Ian! This has to be one of my favorite videos of yours, and that’s saying a lot! 💪🏻🇺🇸👍🏻
I have the very same morale patch "Valhalla, Admit One: Die Historic, Live Again" It's very nice to see more people repping this!
Dude A Kilt in Finland in the Snow.... My Man Ian has some Brass Ones
This looks like a lot of fun! Just without the cold part XD
Mr McCollum you have made every Highlander proud fighting in kilt 🏴 🇳🇿
Really! A kilt during a Finnish Winter. I froze just watching him.
Having worn a kilt (in the appropriate fashion) you have my total respect for jumping into that water. Doesn't matter how you shot. :-) Great match.
that was awesome. " wheres Ian? See that hunchback in the kilt overthere?" :)))
Lol @ the right half of the charging handle just falling off at 10:47
"Land o' the kilt and sporran, underneath there's nothing worn. How I wish the wind was warm, Scotland the Brave"
Wearing the hoodie into the swamp may have been a lucky mistake. Wool is the only fiber that still insulates even when soaking wet. Great video!
With that kilt, I was waiting for you to yell, "you cannae take my freedom!" in a terrible fake scottish accent.
beach ball in the trench was a nice touch
Would have missed it, thanks XDDD
For Ian's next Q&A, "What were you wearing under the kilt?"
Nice to see you visit Finland once again. You should do a sauna special someday on your future visits or maybe I've just missed that episode incase it has been done. PERKELE
That looked COLD and I hate being cold. Good on you for wearing the kilt, keeping close to your roots
The kilt was giving Ian power, that's why he didn't do as well in the last 2 stages
Man these training courses you go to are so badass. That'd be the life.
Press X to show respect... to the camera operator for managing to avoid showing your balls
That photographer had no idea what he was doing. Infuriating.
Knee socks with a kilt are a must in the cold, even stockings
Looks like an amazing stage to shoot, the Finns really do go all out. Very jealous of you Ian!
nice skirt. great choice for the lo'cal.
Damn dude, looks cold. Glad you didn't get sick or something.
Ian gave others a change and did not walk on the water.
Wearing jeans in the desert and kilt in the snow there you go Ian!
This was great ,also seeing the InRange side of Finish brutality was just good fun.
Maybe the first YT I've ever seen with 4.7K likes but not a single dislike. Great video, and well done with the water kilt.
I dig the narration and explanation. Cheers Ian!
I learned a lesson vicariously through you today. Your pain was not in vain:} I can only imagine what the Fins were thinking. Nice way to represent.
Fantastic video Ian! Awesome shooting mate!
Kudos to the camera operator.
Badass video, badass kilt, badass gear.
Already, man time flies by, feels like you just did this, but that was a whole year ago!
Battle kilt awesome 🏴, great series of videos from all my fav channels 🥶👍
Thanks Ian, you made my evening.
Finnish Brutality stages are valid for Navy Seals training!!!
Finland do not fuck around at all. Dude, under the world war, they where the only country that stood alone as a power against both russia and nazis. They didn't loose their country. And their K/D ratio is crazy too. It's even a saying about finns, that we have something called "sisu", and they have even proven that this is a real thing, an actual gene in finnish men. Navy Seals wouldnt stand a chance against a finn!
@@Tokilainen So what're your saying is the Seals should be made up exclusively of Finns?
Uhhhh finland worked with germany during WW2
@@handlethisshitainttwitternigga And?
@@handlethisshitainttwitternigga It's not like we had a choice. The Allies were attacking us.
it's Forgotten jacket 😉
So glad the cameraman considered the fact Ian is wearing a kilt in those shots!
Man what a cool competition
Did the "T" part of your charging handle break? I noticed it only had half the "T" at the end of Stage 3.
Saw that, too. Looks like the whole right handle was gone.
Oof good catch... shame that this fragile gamer gear handle is what they decided to ship as stock on the WWSD2020
@@curious-relics Ian contacted me on Patreon and explained that the first batch of handles had slightly undersized roll pins...it didn't break, the pin just slipped out. I'm no fan of gamer gear/tactics/grips, but I don't think this incident can be blamed on it.
It falls off at about the 10:46 point in the vid.
@@kfeltenberger Got it, that changes my perception. I thought the skeletonization had made the handle shear off.
The kilt is proper gear. Keep moving, briskly. When it’s time to rest.. wrap up in comfort.
3:24 well with the way those suomi kits come in, we know the Finns love their flame torches
I made a noise that wasn't human when he dropped into that muddy water to his waist. I'd be shivering way too much to hit anything if I tried that stage.
I suggest getting some traditional highland hose for your next winter kilt outing. Much warmer, also a handy place to keep you knife.
Kilts are just so dang sweet.
Love you Ian, always welcome to the North :D
Rocking that KILT was just badass!
As I commented on Bloke's channel, I would not blame anyone for giving a high pitched scream upon splashing into that ice cold mud water.