The Difference 4b and 4c hair with Pictures and Video (SUPER EASY!!)
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- How to find your hair type. Can you tell hair types 4b and 4c apart? In this video I’m going to talk about about the different hair types. In particular determining the difference between type 4a 4b and 4c hair types. Then I’ll take my research and look at the strands of my hair to determine my own hair type. I'll be using the modified Andre Walker hair typing chart to compare. There will be pictures of each hair type and video footage of my hair strands against the hair chart. I hope you this helps you find your own hair type!
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Am just here trying to keep my edges and hair moisturized.
😂 YAAAASSSS! I mean, basically that all you need.
Yh my edges breaks alot too
My 4c hair ignores hair products, talk back to brushes and it's ON SIGHT with combs 😭😭😭
I love it now that I've learned how to manage it... 💕 BUT STILL lol
you got that warrior hair!!! ❤
Very interesting... It can be so confusing. But, I'm not interested in this system, does nothing for my hair care. But hey, I enjoy learning new things
That’s cool. It’s just back pocket information ☺️
Based on this, it seems like what many usually think of as 4c hair (strands with no defined curl pattern) is actually labeled 4b on the chart.
Bro I think I'm 4a and I thought I was 4c, I was hesitant when I noticed 4c hair actually looks different than mind
But that doesn’t make sense. For types 2 and 3, the waves and curls respectively go from loose to tight. So wouldn’t the same be for type 4?
@Ash_Queen16 It should but that's not how the hair chart is for type 4 hair and people just falsely assume instead of paying attention to the chart🤦🏽♀️
@@tarledamanley2832 But the chart is wrong if we go with that logic. Type 4b and 4c should be switched
@@Ash_Queen16 true but 4b was already established BEFORE people just squoze 4c on there because they couldn't stand the thought of being considered 4a when they really are 🤣
Hair typing has confused me so much I gave up on it. I started focusing on porasity and density and it has really helped me learn to care for my hair and grow it
I’m a man and this confuses the heck out of me. I am just staring my natural hair journey and I can’t figure out my hair type. I just use products that make my hair look the way I want, and go from there.
@@ceewhateyecee9701How are you confused? Did you not just watch this video?
@@ceewhateyecee9701 tbf, some ppl have a combination, like i have a combo of 3a-c, leaning more towards 3b and 3c. good luck!
@@AJfinityew. Don’t get nasty. It’s not like people study their hair all damn day to know the difference between texture and curl pattern. Check ur attitude
To know the real results go get your hair done at a beauty shop they will guide you and tell you what products to use because everyone can’t use the same products it can damage your hair or stomp the growth or if your hair stays the same length all year round and no results you’re using the wrong products in your hair and it cause damage to it but if you got her hair in the video you need hydration moisturizers in your hair to grow no sulfate shampoos not good for the hair you will see results and hair growth you need hydration spray like oil sheens hydration sprays and hydration conditioners to the hair and follow the directions if it say leave in 5 mins rinse out do it don’t leave it in longer better results and hair protect styles
I’m about to share and post this in a natural hair group on FB. They about to be madddd 😂
👀 Welp 🤷🏾♀️ lol
😂😂
Messsyyyy…I love it
Well they removed the video and me 😂. The admin basically said all you needed to do was bug chop and your 4C hair will grow back with a different curl pattern. Claimed she had 4C hair, but after her big chop it was 3C. I said so a haircut changed your DNA??? And that was all she wrote 😂
@@dreadams3207 wooo, she is delusional 🤣🤣
I would love to see how 4b looks wet and defined I really feel like no one truly knows how 4b hair looks like. Sometimes I can't even tell if some of my curls are 4b or 4a because when it's wet and it dries it tightens. Also, of course, texture and curl pattern should not be interchangeable. That's why people always assume 4a is only silky which is far from true it can look exactly like 4c texture-wise, but the pattern is ofc different. Also, I feel like that's why the 4c hair mislabeling isn't always intentional or malicious. Many still thinks 4c hair has the "tightest texture" which is false it has the tightest curl pattern. That's why anyone who has an afro and has very kinky hair is already categorized as 4c (or thinks they do). As Nappyheadedjojoba said, texturism existed wayyy before hair typing and I wholeheartedly agree
I am working on getting some defined 4b hair pictures on the accompanying blog post. The mislabeling has made finding those images so much more difficult. 😅 I’m working on it. We’re all in this thang together.
@@LaToyaEbonyHair thanks so much and I agree it’s hard out here lol. I love your videos and how much effort you out into educating us. You definitely inspired me to experiment with my hair ❤️❤️ I forgot to mention you have very beautiful hair
My cousin definitely has 4b hair and I know (at least with the persons I know 4that have 4 hair) 4b hair usually has alot less shrinkage than 4a or 4c because it does not have a coil to revert to. Idk I might be wrong though but that what I saw with ppl ik with 4b hair
Couldn’t have said it any better!
Sorry never ever my 4a has looked just like 4c
"Hair typing" will always be irrelevant to me but this was an interesting video. Knowing your hair porosity and density is far more valuable.
The care and detail you put into making this video is so appreciated 🤩
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Hey Loves! I wanted to create a resource for those of you struggling with "getting your hair to coil or curl". I've gotten so many disheartening messages about not being able to get the results you want with your hairstyles, so I hope those of you who are 4b hair types can rest assured in the fact that there is NOTHING wrong with your hair! Sometimes hydration isn't the answer!. As we learn more about our beautiful hair, I hope this gives 4c and 4b naturalists some clarity. PICTURES HERE: bit.ly/3ctMGQB
Still working on finding 4b hair defined to put on the blog. 😉
This was really informative thanks
I definitely thought 4 b was a looser coil than 4c...
Looks like I mostly have 4c hair with some 4a mixed in at the edges and nape
Y is it that many 4c naturals have 4a around the nape ? So interesting
Sometimes it's because that is the hair that is most susceptible to stretching and manipulation through the styles that we wear (ponytails, heat, etc) which over time can alter the hair. Other times it's bc that's how our hair is naturally textured.
For a moment I felt like I was in a natural hair class. Very detailed information.
Thank you Rosy! ☺️
This whole number system is just another way to determine what’s “good” or “bad”. Hair is as unique as a fingerprint and no two people will have the same. This typing system is just a way for product companies to target a certain groups and make money
I believe Oprah Winfrey's hairdresser, Andre Walker, came up with the chart but black women's hair texture was not originally a positive focus on it! It only featured 1a to 2b or 2c for his hair care line then as the texures increased he basically said 4c hair should be relaxed for different hairstyle options! Our textures 3a to 4c were not included for his hair product line which was for straight hair. I don't think the chart was meant to confuse or for hair texturism but I'm not sure what it was for because our hair was not originally featured on it for style and care options! I'm finding the longer my 4c hair gets the harder it is to care for so I might straighten or relax it but I don't think my hair is less valuable than a less curlier texture! I guess some people have hair hierarchy in their minds for some reason!
I think the chart in and of itself simply helps women understand what is on their head
@@KCLARK98 I wish, but it seems to help and lead to confusion! 🤔😒! It was meant as a hair care guide but some people turn it into a texture contest!
My mother had been relaxing my hair twice a year since the age of 7 years old. I'm now 44 years old. Six years ago, I decided to do the "Big Chop" because I wanted to embrace my natural texture. I was also ashamed of the fact that in all my like, I'd never known my natural hair. After going crazy with ✂️ in my bathroom. I found that my natural hair is 4 A, according to this chart .
It's sooo beautiful!!! And qleasy to manage.
At this point I'm 4z, cuz I can barely see a curl pattern on my head
I can relate on sooo many levels 🥰😅
Massive respect to you women for being able to understand hair like this, I don’t know wtf I’m doing 😭
Love this video clearing up all the confusion out there!!
It's a great way to find hair that looks similar to yours so you understand what your hair will do. I watch a lot of content with other hair types and knowing my hair type keeps my expectations real.
Hair typing is essential for finding content. I went from 4C to 3C after chemo in 2020. Some go from type 1 to 2or3. They're called chemo curls. Turns out you can go from type 4 to 3. I was natural for 10 YEARS and maxed at 12 inches!! Now I'm only 8 months since hair started growing back and it's already 4 inches. It's still fine in texture, low density and high porosity as before. I can comb it with my fingers, it doesn't get tangles and knots at the end like my 4c hair did so I predict it will be easier for me to retain length this time.
I think that's just because when your hair gets longer the texture loosens, so you can go from 4a to 3c... but what do I know
@@babygirl_likestochewgum I do not think so. She just said her hair reached 12 inches and it was still 4c before chemo. Afterwards, it is now 4 inches which is shorter than before chemo.
This is true, before my mom passes im 2012 it happened to her during chemo treatment. All her 4B/C hair fell out, but when it started growing again it was bone straight. I thought she was exaggerating until I seen it with my own eyes. Chemo made her go from type 4 hair to 1.
I know someone who went from 1b to 3A after chemotherapy
Amazing story, I hope you are okay too. I encourage you to make videos to document your new hair journey! Inspirational & Educational at the same time!
I absolutely appreciate your video! I have finally found the hair type in your video that I can identify and feel less confused about! ❤
Type 4 (b, c) and shrinkage checking in. We mainly have several types on our heads. Great video!
This video was awesome. Well detailed and thoroughly researched. Kudos 👏🏼
Excellent and informative. I agree with what you said about the curl progression and how that confuses people. Great video!
This is fascinating! I never knew there was a classification system for curly hair.
I needed this sooooo much. Thank you!!
My new hairstylist literally just informed me that I have 4B hair. I was like what?! 😯 This whole time I thought I was 4C. I said; time to do some research and BAM you are my hair Angel. Thanks! 🙏🏽
I’m a transitioning natural, I’ve always been confused by this hair chart lol. Great video!
Such an interesting video!! You explained everything very clearly :)
Thank you for the effort! ♡
As time has gone on I realize that product recommendations from folks who have Type 4 hair with similar hair density and porosity as mine, helps me the most.
Don't forget hair texture. It took me the longest time to realise that watching people with coarse hair when I have mostly fine hair strands was doing me no favours!
@@fattysl26 So true!
So educative I now know what my hair type is. Thank you so much ❤️
I truly appreciate this video as an OG natural cause we were trying to figure this out and I thought I got my hair type right but I could never feel 100% sure. I so appreciate your video and I plan to pass it along to my subscribers so they too can get that great info. Thanks for this!
That’s so beautiful to hear. Thank you so much! ❤️
OmG, ur hair is almost JUST like mine !!! That dang SHRINKAGE is REAL!!!! You are the 1ST PERSON I've come across with hair like mine!!
Girl that hairstyle is 💣 ! You're so gorgeous !😍😍 I wish I could wear my hair like that too, but my scalp is so sensitive that I can't use hairpins for my hairstyles. I must confess that I still can't tell what is my hair type; for I have at least 3 different types of coils or curls. But I just embrace my crown the way she is. And Yes, my hair shrinks like crazy!!!🤗😂 Though somewhere around BSL, she shrinks up to my scalp when I let her dry (and she needs about 2 days to be fully dry, but the shrinkage is immediate😭) without any other form of stretching, and to my chin when I style in twists, and I'm not even kidding !😥 My shrinkage is real, especially in the middle of my head where I think I'm 4C or maybe 4B; I still can't tell the difference between these two, really😅😅😅.
I think it’s okay not to label it. These are just back pocket resources for those curious. If you’re happy with the way you’ve taken care of your hair, that’s all that matters. ☺️
I have looser curls like 3c/4a around my nape and edges, I have no definition or cotton-y/spongy type at the back of my head, I have wiry strands that don't bend or sleep or do anything, they have a mind of their own mixed all over my head especially, the front!😄
I really appreciate your channel, it's nice to see more people with my hair texture 😊
I just finding it hard to grow my edges.
It took a while for the hair in the center of my head to grow also.
I've being laughed at because my hair looked weird and not the usual kinky.
Yesss this video is truly amazing!!!!
Great video. Your voice was very soothing.
Wow, this was really informative and made me more comprehensive of my son’s hair! He’s 15 and I’m just starting to let him experiment with his hair which means we are starting to figure out how to style it. I was thinking of taking him to get it texturized so we could manage it better but I just realized we never really knew his hair texture
Girrrrl, at 15 you managing his hair? My boys cut me off at about 12 :) They are doing a great job. My one son even learned how to cut.
Your hair is beautiful. Thanks for the video. I came here to determine what hair type I have and I just realized I probably have them all.😃
Excellent video so informative, thank you Boo😘
Great video! Much needed!
Thank you for this! very informative!
This was so informative, thank you.
Ah and I really enjoyed your need way to explain the hair types... ❤
you have such a soothing voice 🥰
Seeing you for the first time. Love your energy!
Welcome to my channel!! ❤️
This was so helpful!! Thank you!!
My hair is mostly 4a with some 3c in the crown but I have a cousin who has the same hair type as you. I subscribed to you to get some Ideas for her hair she is 11 years old. Your hair is Beautiful and cannot wait to try some of your techniques! I am excited 🤗
It makes absolutely no sense to me that 4b is represented as a zig zag and not a coil. I liked your explanation of why that may have happened. It should be a tighter coil than 4a and less tight than 4c. The zig zag pattern should be 4d or something. My hair is coily but doesn’t match 4a or 4c, I consider myself mostly 4b (curly, coily)
Same
I’m relaxed this video was high informative.
Very informative. Thank you so much
I remember watching your videos yearssss ago in my early undergrad days but I didnt have a youtube account to subscribe and lost touch with your content. Fast forward till now I was googling some things for my hair and your wonderful video showed up! I was and currently am superrrr ecstatic! A new old subscriber, I'm about to binge all this quality content
Yay!! Welcome back! Happy to have you❤️❤️❤️❤️
I love the LOIS video. I think that was the one that made me sub…I think. Excellent examples. Love this video
OMG I was really trying to figure why everyone’s 4C hair did not look mines. The 4C vs 4B explained a lot. My hair is different, it straight in some parts and then it’s a curl that doesn’t curl 🤷🏾♂️
That’s my 4b hair type, a z design pattern, great interpretation of hair types.
Excellent presentation!🎉
My hair doesn't seem to fit any place on this system but I really enjoyed the video and your voice!
So i got 4c as well. This so cool to find out
I loved your video! Your voice is pretty pleasant to hear!!! Kisses from Brazil!!! 💚💛
Love this !!! Girl I’m still terrified of my shrinkage! My hair looks just like yours and I legit got nervous watching you let it dry out like that 😂😂😂
Whoa me and my sister did the same puffy hair style and her hair texture was so different from mines, so this helped alot
Interesting video. I just recently figured out my hair was high porosity. I’m 4c, but my hair is very different than a lot of youtubers, & has it’s own unique problems. My hair immediate shrinks 70% with any kind of moisture & the only way to keep it stretched is with heat.
Same with me too. When I moisturize my hair it shrinks so bad. But to stretch it, I never use heat on my hair because I'm scared to damage it. I rather do the African stretching style by cutting my hair into medium sections and roll the hair yarn around up to the tip of my hair. When I remove the hair yarn the following day, my hair is beautifully stretch and I can do any hair style I want.
You are a dazzling, super cool nerd 🤣🤣🤣😎😎😎🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 Yes, I experience shrinkage. I have had to revamp my hair routine so often, it gets discouraging. I do try to keep it simple as possible, though. Seems every time I get CLOSE to serious length, splint ends keep me from maintaining it. Loved this video. Look forward to part 2🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Very informative video Thank you 😊
This was informative and fun to watch.
Thank you. I’m glad! 🥰
Hair looks before and after old vs new. 💯🥰
This video is so well done!
Thank you!
LaToya! This video is so GOOD! You're hair is like mine. You use the word "sponge" but I think of it more as "cotton" texture when it dries. I love the ringlets when its soaking wet. I just wish I was better at "capturing" them in a uniform way with styling products. The Goal. I am SO excited you are doing a wash n go soon. I NEED that now. I am ready to try. I did try 2 weeks ago but that doesn't count because it turned into a twist out! There were so many reasons, but mainly lack of skill! I couldn't believe how differently each section of my hair looked, like they didn't know each other! Lol! THANK YOU for this video!
I’m excited you are going to try again! I used the world “spongy” because that the texture I have based on the LOIS hair typing system. ☺️
Mine is a blend of 3c and 4A and some 4c I believe. Thank you ancestors!
Thank you for this video, it was very helpful to me!😃 I consider myself 4b/c as well.💜
You’ve answered my questions 👏👍👍👍
Very informative. Thank you.
this is an amazing video thank u so much for making it! your energy is incredible btw it feels like standing in the sunlight 😭
Awwww ❤️❤️❤️
This was the most detailed hair video i have ever seen. Gal your hair looks amazing💯🔥. My issue with my hair is that it doesn’t shrink, its the same before and after washing it. It’s natural even when I strengthen it the length never change 😭. Btw you look like Tia M of quick fix lol or sister sisters
Best explanation of hair porosity ever! You go girl! I'm awaiting part 2.
Did I say porosity I meant texture and curl types
I’ve always thought my hair was 4c, everything that everyone said applied to me, then when I found LaToya and is video, I got a little scared bc I didn’t know if my hair was actually 4c. But this video confirmed me and let me know that I indeed have typos 4c natural hair. Thanks LaToya 😊
Yay to almost 100k! Girl you deserve it. Been following for years and love your videos and the effort you put into them. Tbh recently I actually found myself missing the little whistle? squeak? You used to do in your intro lol
Great video!
🇬🇧🙋🏾♀️I look forward to your findings in your next installment 👍🏾💖
I definitely have all of type four rolling in my head ➰
And so many of us do boo! You are definitely not alone Cali!
In most definitely thin small coils and zig zags. My curls don’t define easily my much like zig zag. Sometimes my crown appears kinda straight buts curly I don’t know so confusing. All I know it’s 4type. This was absolutely excellent!
I soooooo appreciate you for making this video! I was wondering what natural products I can make to maintain the stretch and keep it moisturized. I consistently get little balls at the end of my twisted hair even though I hydrate and massage it every day and drink a gallon of water. Thank you for making time to answer my inquiry. Immeasurable blessings!
learning so much rn
This was very informative and basically tells me I pretty much have 2 or 3 patterns on my big ol head 🤣
Haha! Most of us do!!
Thank you for helping me, at times I feel so in between n sometimes even left out… I truly want to find products perfectly for me! I been using Melanin which helped with its health n I also used 4c products which helped with moisture.. I just can never STYLE my hair 😭😭😭 but your personal video helps ALOT because certain parts of mines has its own pattern.. overall I needed this! Lbs
Girl. Thank you!
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Hey hon ❤️ loved the video! Fro-hawk is super cute 😁
Thank you!!
4c hair is like a head full of hair beautifully hugging one another :)
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Thank you for this video! It's very helpful. I big chopped not too long ago and am still trying to figure my hair out. I am pretty sure I'm type 4 but as my hair is growing I think the texture/strands are changing or maybe it's my curls getting longer so they are looking different - unclear. But I am loving this natural hair journey and love watching your content ❤︎
The longer it get the more stretched out the pattern becomes. When my hair was growing I thought I would have the same looking pattern but longer. But I didn't. It just became a tight wave. I just recently cut off a few inches and it's back being tightly coil.
@@apara2005 This is good insight, thank you.
Love my 4c hair ❤️
Thank you!!
I have 1 A hair, pretty fine. it's interesting to see the curl patterns visualized and systematized.
I still like the Hair Typing system for Styling Looks purposes so you can see what a hairstyle could look like.
thanks for this boo
You are such a vibe, love your energy plus, you are gorgeous. You sort of favor Essence Atkins. Great video!
Thank you! 🥰
I think I have all 4bc textures in my hair with a little 4a. The front, back and sides are all different.
A very beautiful video
You are adorable and the video was really very informative. Thank you
I have a hard time subscribing to this typing system because my hair isn’t really represented. I have tight s and z shaped waves. These wave are very apparent. My hair defines into this pattern, and it’s apparent when wet and dry. 🤷🏽♀️
I also find that this typing system doesn’t really provide much information or help for caring for caring for one’s hair.
Well the man who initially created the chart said people with 3c+ (I think he called it nappy or wooly or something, he didn’t say 3C-4C) should relax their hair. He didn’t include those types because in his mind hair is only acceptable when it is of a looser texture. So the chart doesn’t make sense because 3C onward were added by other people who weren’t really working from the initial creator’s framework. Also this chart does not encapsulate every hairtype imaginable, and as Latoya stated it does not consider things that affect the appearance of hair like texture, shine, density, strand thickness, etc. The chart doesn’t even mention that the shape of hair follicles is what determines the amount of curl a strand will have. Ultimately this hair typing system isn’t exact science and you should essentially treat it with great skepticism, especially if what you’re hair looks like doesn’t match what is presented in the chart.
@@adaminflux
You are partially correct. He recommended Type 4 relax their hair. There was only 4A and 4B initially.
@@glencora6340 no there was no 3C-4C and he recommended anyone with “nappy” hair relax. He didn’t call anything 3C-4C because those weren’t even hair types to him. There was 1A-3B and then just nappy hair. 🤷♂️
@@adaminflux
He had 3A and 3B and 4A and 4B. The site Naturally Curly created 3C and 4C.
Btw you’re really pretty. You kinda look a bit like Nicki Minaj ☺️☺️
Now I understand, thanks
So helpful..I love wearing my hair natural but always want to make sure I'm using thr right products too for my hair and how often to use these products to help growth occur
I agree with this. Like most other things in life, hair is highly variable and has many factors, even if we correct for styling or technique that can make your hair look widely different from its natural appearance.
The hair typing system was most useful for me as a new natural, when the goal was to see what my hair could do. When it comes to seeing what my hair SHOULD do, I pay attention to porosity and other texture related factors (like propensity for single strand knots, etc.) but not curl pattern.