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Papua New Guinean here. PNG should not be considered as the 18th team. Weâre simply not ready. NRL should either invest in or support the development system here instead.
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I've waited since 1999 for the bears to come back and I'm 35 ready!
39 same
There are South Melbourne supporters like you in Victoria waiting for them to come back too. They are done, time to move on.
@@VelvetRiot-hz5mp jokes on you, they're returning in 2025 as a foundation club in the second tier that will eventually be promoted to the top league. Hope you're enjoying your Melbourne City membership with the other 46 manufacturered fans and empty stadiums.
@@nibskewon Dude, was referring to the Swans. They were South Melbourne for 150 years. Not talking about the 1960's soccer club Hellas.
As a Papua New Guinean, i hope the NRL doesn't make us the 18th team. It's more political than what's good for the game. Would rather the game grow our grassroots footy and establish international pathways/academic footy scholarships. I'd rather the Bears get it
Tru tumas bro. Marape pasim eye blo ol sipsip waintaim dispela long long driman ya.
I only pity the Aussie taxpayers who will be losing big time given how there hard earned dollar has been squandered.
How's the interest over there with the PNG Hunters? If there was promotion and relegation (1 team from each cup plus another that wins a Cups playoff), every non NRL team or non NRL affiliate has a chance at playing NRL, last placed from the 3 drops to their cup and replaced.
Builds the interest and money into the 2 state cups, that's where Perth PNG and co can work their way into the NRL
@@EmmanuelApa-mj7xu brat mahn.... moni lo ronim lo team bai go lo narala hap. Non faul ose politics makim na 1pla mahn China bai ronim 5/8 lo yumi. Haha
â@@Youser57bro interest in the footy is sky-high over here and it would be interesting to see an underdog franchise win the comp. The only problem with that is how attractive would it be for an A-list talent to want to sign to a PNG franchise should we be promoted into first grade? Safety is paramount
Another route could be if the NRL introduced something like what they do over in the NBA/NFL and divide the teams into conferences. I mean more teams, reduce the rounds, increase international games and then see where things go. Somewhat like Rugby Union. But that's in the long run.
Look guys. Right now, my country is no where near an NRL team. I think the Australian government is more worried about China's influence in the Pacific so they think pleasing our politicians by giving us an NRL team will sway us but honestly, its just a waste of time and Australian tax-payers money. I know the NRL won't be able to recoup their finances. Who can even afford tickets to watch a game? Life's rough over here and our currency is way more trash against the Aussie dollar. Its just a bad investment. And who knows, maybe some folks over there may have a cut in their little 4-point plan about a compound or whatever with our politicians. That's just a theory from myself.
Either way, this application isn't based on the fact that we are ready. I mean. The passion of the game is definately here, but even our footy isn't up to standard. Justin Olam even mentioned how much he had to learn the technical aspects before he even cracked 1st grade.
Long-story short, give it to Perth or somebody else.
I been a bears fan my whole life and I haven't followed no other club since 1999 for goodness sack bring back the bears so I can wear a nrl jumper
As a Papua New Guinean, no we dont want or need an NRL team.
Yuorait ?
@@Alekosdw passim
No NRL player will want to live in PNG
We have enough png and international players to fill the roster. Next đ€
@@leeawari2398yeah right đ need Aussie money to fund no one wants that hell hole
@@leeawari2398just not enough talent, next
Whether you like or not , it will still happen , PNG will still have a team in the NRL !! Next !
@@HallandKuluwathey definitely wonât have the next team, next
I donât get why the push for a 2nd NZ team from the South Island isnât gaining more traction. We have great stadiums in Christchurch and Dunedin and we have the infrastructure, league all over NZ is booming and we have a strong player base. Just my musings tho
Did you watch the Warriors game last week? We can't even field one competitive team, let alone two.
@@khankake9576 Why not. There are enough NZ born players to fill multiple teams
Rugby League is a popular secondary sport in both Perth and Christchurch. The latter has bigger and better grassroots across both Rugby codes, while the former is wealthier per capita along with 6x the pop. of the latter (and 1.1 million more people in the metro than the whole South Island)
@@khankake9576 yeah the warriors got a hiding, but the warriors chants far exceeded anything from the home team and this has been the case in almost every warriors game. A South Island team would get great support. We support our team regardless, a lot of top nrl teams fans donât even turn up when they are winning
@@Connor6569 Trouble is that most of them go to Aussie cause there's better opportunities. All I can see happening is spreading the talent too thin between two teams
Get the Perth team at HBF park, not at bloody Optus
As a Perth resident, I 100% agree. They will blow out the Western Force đ
Ringleader western coast
Back to the cricket ground, better amenities there.
Gus says no one under 30 would know who the Bears are but then says Perth need to be the Western Reds đ
Perth deserves to be the next NRL team. As for PNG, perhaps once we eliminate the rascals wandering the streets of Port Moresby, we can consider including a team in the NRL.
Dont Expand to PNG. I am a Papua New Guinean commenting. We have too much problems here.
Trupla tok!
@@sidneybosike5270 thats true talk or speak. By the comments here, the Papuans know its not the right time for a PNG team and meybe it never will.
This is a joke.. why do we even bother talking about this crap anymore? One weeks itâs PNG, one weeks itâs Perth, the next itâs the Bears or Brisbane or NZ something itâs just a joke
Perth has 2 AFL teams so itâs important to have another NRL team, back there with their own nickname. A lot of East coasters and Poms heading over there so they know footy. No need to take the Jets and Bears over it will be a completely different generational fan base.
PNG is not safe yet, maybe make them the 20th team but better off going to NZ again, infrastructure and TV money is already there.
Papua New Guinea Government is only interested in the money.... I predict there will be a huge regret by the NRL when funds go missing đ€Š. If PNG is to be given the thumbs up then an independent body in Australia should control the funds. Our Government has a way of not noticing millions that go missing.
If you want a team based in PNG the team would not be in Port Moresby if youâre talking about safety. If you want players to feel safe you would consider making the team based in East New Britain or New Ireland which are most probably the safest provinces in PNG.
PNG is just too hardcore for Aussies. Teams will need an armed escort everywhere, PNG is not like anything we understand until you get there. I get what the Aus gov are trying to do, but read the travel warnings.
@@noellzy Iraq still has a soccer league
The media always paint PNG black. Give a team and you will see, the players will be happy to live in PNG. As we love nrl we will respect the nrl players.
@@markokuk327 I went up to PM and PNG for work a few years back. I have nothing against PNG people, and I know there ain't a place on earth that loves League more. I grew up in one of the worst suburbs in NSW, and I was waaaay outta my depth up there. Imagine some arrogant 20 year old going to the wrong place in Moresby?
@@noellzy There is no safe place in the world if you are concerned about safety, even in Australia. Look at places like Afghanistan. In the midst of chaos, they still have some international sports teams. Sports can also change the behavior and mentality of people.
scenes when nrl announce 18th team will be based in Antartica
We could have a team of Draco's or Shape shifters maybe lol, I know lots of the live over there...
Go the mighty penguins!
Iâve never seen or heard Gal laughed so hard after a Gus comment..đ€Ł
2 more Australian teams and 1 new Zealand team, ive kinda changed my mind on png imo
Fiji đ«đŻ got over 100k players ready to play in NRL Competition
Fiji's population is 100000
Lol
Bring in Perth!!
They deserve it as they have been viable for decades, i was over there in 1996 with the National 15's and it was strong then
Dolphins. Games
The nrl should be expanding and putting a team in Perth or Adelaide. As well as a team each in Darwin and Hobart. Neither Darwin or Hobart have winter sports teams and the nrl has spent over a decade taking games there and getting good turnouts, whatâs the point of taking games there and not putting a team there? Beat the afl to both and have them on the back foot for once!! I know there will be an argument that putting in 3 new teams will dilute the quality of the nrl across the board. This is true, but the sooner they do it, the sooner they can develop kids in these locations especially the NT and tassie which will long term swell the talent pool. As it stands thereâs 16 teams picking the scraps of talent in 2 states. The sooner we give NT a team the sooner a lot of extremely talented indigenous players who currently prefer afl can switch to rugby league and will also have a team to play for that doesnât require them to leave their home state which is a big move for young indigenous kids.
AFL franchise coming in Tassie, not to mention the NBL already being there.
Ron barassi line mate.
I think Darwin's a tough ask. Perth & Adelaide I think make sense as markets that have previously hosted the sport professionally (albeit 20-30 years ago) and both cities have good facilities for teams to play from to begin with. I think Darwin falls apart for similar reasons to PNG, in that a lot of investment would be needed for suitable facilities, especially given the weather conditions. Hobart also has similar issues, and very little interest in rugby league in Tasmania as a whole, to the point that Tassie hasn't had its own competitive league active in nearly a decade.
Darwin, Hobart & PNG need a lot more improvements in terms of development pathways which doesn't necessarily have to stem from having an NRL club there and also probably shouldn't at this stage. Perth, Adelaide, a 2nd team in NZ & maybe even a 4th team in South East Queensland seem like much better investments for the NRL to make.
Tasmanian devils are coming to the NRL
Ringleader western. Times
Gals right, what player in their right mind would want anything to do with that PNG team, itâs a dangerous 3rd world country ffs why are we acting like itâs Bondi or Brisbane? Itâs not
Port Moresby is a metropolitan city. Many Australians and expatriates work and live in Port Moresby with their families. What is so special about the players?
Man toktok oh drug toktok
Media always paint PNG black. As we love NRL we will also have high respect for nrl players. Give a team and you will see, the players will be happy to live in PNG.
Best part about nrl expansion is i feel like there are some great players deserving of starter spots that are currently not getting enough playing time. It will be great for all fans.
The AFL is actually expanding based on good management, how thin does the NRL want to spread the crowds? The whole sport needs a PR rebrand and repositioning before it should even think of expansionâŠ
AFL have to waste 10s of millions of dollars perpetually propping up the Lions, Giants and Suns. RL has expansion bids proving they can pay their own way and paying a licence fee.
â@@titob81 the broadcast rights pay for the Sun's and the Giants. The AFL is evangelical, while Rugby League needs to shed its siege mentality
@@titob81 That's because they have money to burn. The NRL doesn't, and the AFL think long term.
Id have a second team out of Auckland, called the Auckland Giants, and let the rest of New Zealand have the fuckin 'wahs'đ
đđđ or Send the Wahs to Perthđ
Hereâs an idea. Maybe the Kiwis could build their own competition rather than bludge off ours.
@@DeepseaSteve Iâm Aussie but have you not seen all the kiwi players in the comp a lot of them big names they are not bludging off our comp and the population of NZ is like 4-5 million around the same as Sydney alone
â@@DeepseaSteveshow us on the doll where the bad man hurt u brođ€Šââïžđ€Šââïžđđ€Łđđ€Ł
As a Papua New Guinean, we are off without having an NRL too, NRL hasn't been conducive to PNG over the years, most of our players are dominating Super League, in the next 5 to 10 years time, we are sure to dominate the Super League so we doing fine, give the 18th team to An australian Team
Samtin blo Australia givim long Australia. Why Yumi wok long putim skin long nrl tumas!
It has to be Perth. The young grades have great talent with no feeder opportunities.
Have to be the bears
Player managers are going to be so very happy.
Relocate a few Sydney teams, solved.
Shove the Sydney teams where the sun doesn't shine. 4 teams in Sydney, Western Sydney, Perth (Western Reds), Darwin, PNG, Pacific, Sth West Qld, Country Qld and Country NSW. All ready Melbourne, Canberra, Newcastle, Warriors and then 4 Qld teams at present. Finally a true National RL.
Adelaide Roosters
PNG Sharks or the Moresby Sea Eagles.
Establish the PNG compound now for the current QLD CUP comp for proof of concept and to get the ball rolling
Instead of PNG, make it Pacific Islands. Play across the region. PNG, Samoa, Fiji etc. Base franchise facilities in more attractive location than PNG.
20 team competition... so this "new innovation" is the 1990s đ€·ââïž
Australia is fighting Chinas influence in PNG , cutting tax for 15 x 400k salaries is a cost not a loss for them
Iâm not sure if the panel realises the scale of government spending and action in the pacific to counter China. Some tax incentives are nothing.
@@nicholasbradley-qalilawa2934 couldn't agree more and they've left it too late. But PNGs national sport is league and it's a good bit of propoganda for Australian relations.
On a side note - I reckon you'll be surprised how many players would live on the island !
@@nibskewonyeah I agree it annoyed me how Gal said nobody would wanna move there like itâs a fact. A lot of people like myself are cultured and love travelling and meeting new people and youâd be a rockstar as a footy player in PNG. I reckon loads would move
@@nibskewon I agree, I actually think it would be a killer experience
When Melbourne came into the comp they wanted salary cap dispensation to attract players. Dispensation was not approved. Their initial squad contained seven internationals. Melbourne Storm eventually got busted for cheating the salary cap.
If players don't want to relocate to Australia's second largest city with all it has to offer on the same money, it seems unlikely they will be willing to relocate with their families to PNG and live in a compound in sweltering heat. It will be like Storm players living in a compound in Queensland during Covid, but hotter and less safe.
For a PNG team to be viable, the players might have to be based in North Queensland and fly into PNG for home games.
png has to be there nzl, perth is ausie teamđđ
My husband says give the meekathara meerkats a go.
Btw, they are not a real team he just likes saying it.
Take good care of your husband love..
Would like to see Perth, SA and 2nd nz side. I donât understand why we need more nsw teams. We should be taking over Australia, nz and beyond in to the English super league.
It would be way more safer to play in Bali or East Timor then Port Moresby.
It's not that bad đ
Instead of bringing in a new team, canât we just kick out Souths?
Merge southâs and parra
@@tomasgreen77 South Sydney Slugs
Truth be told, PNG people are passionate about their footy. You'll never see crowds reactions anywhere else in the world like PNGs. NRL Players will have the best time of their life here. They will be safe here. But I agree with Gus, we PNG need a lot of work before thinking about entering into NRL. Saddest part is its Government driven so i wouldn't be suprised if it is rushed into it.
Wouldâve liked to hear more about the South Island
Living in PNG playing footy would be SICK I bet loads of players who enjoy travelling and new cultures would jump at it youd be a GOD there.
It would be sick alright đ€ź
It's really only the safety factor. If they can somewhat minimise that then I'm sure they would get plenty of people interested.
@@B-tr9kz at the end of the day Iraq and Afghanistan still have soccer leagues running that make as much as the nrl does
I don't know about bears fans, but you relocate my team, and I walk away from the NRL entirely, I don't support NRL, I support my team.
Then you'd support them when they come out to Sydney, just saying
@@Youser57 Nope. they move them, they aren't my team anymore, are they,
just saying.
Bears merchandise way too cool.
Bears all the way!
Nrl should make pathways in PNG and those players should be put into a draft system, weâll need more players especially when we eventually have 20 teams
Change the Tigers back to the Magpies.
Bring in PNG
as a PNGean myself, i totally agree with Gus comments. Current team in the Queensland cup is a great building platform for PNG players to try to get into the NRL proper (up up Justin Olam!!). A PNG team in the NRL is not a good idea at this stage
Western Reds would be weird I associate Red and Reds with QLD
Plenty of professional Australian sporting clubs have the same moniker as clubs in other domestic leagues. The AFL and NRL both have Tigers and Bulldogs, used to both have Bears and Magpies. Perth Heat in Baseball, Brisbane Heat in BBL etc
Besides, the Western Reds refers to the Roo, the Queensland Reds refers to the colour
Ringleader western coast
Catchy nick _"Western Reds"_
Maybe introduce a PNG team later down the line as the 20th expansion team instead of 18th or 19th. Base it out of Cairns where Australian players would like to live and just make them fly to Port Moresby for the Home games and fly back.
PNG needs to be in the comp. Based in Cairns , playing in png , a la west tigers , 4-5 times a year.
Players WILL play for them as itâs nrl exposure. My biggest fear is it would be a transit lounge , to other clubs.
Cairns crime rate is 50% higher than the average. Why is no one saying theyâd (players) like in a compound in Cairns?
Whatâs up with a Alices springs team bud that would awesome bloke
If the league was actually serious in growing the game, they'd go west of the Great Dividing Range. If they choose not to, then it speaks volumes for the state of the sport in the country.
PNG and a QRL teams should merged to field a team for a shared home games and a training base up north. Good for the game, like the DRUA's in Rugby
Spoke to mate down in Invercargill and said for the first time ever more kids are signing up to play league. Predominantly rugby community. I remember back in 80âs league was big down there, but as soon as you got to high school you could only play union. Thatâs the reason kids stop playing.
Whyâs Ipswich not in the conversation
Dunno why they donât bring a team to the Northern Rivers, NRL players would love living in Byron Bay and so much talent here
Mushrooms and soy latte diet
Why would you continue to put new teams in New South Wales or Queensland. Neither grows the game at all, it just cuts the existing money and talent pool into thinner slices.
@@troystaunton254 definitely grows the game when thereâs a lot of untapped talent here that does not get utilised, players like Tyrone Roberts, Jimmy the jet, Amos Roberts, James and Mitchell Aubusson, Matt King, Nick Meaney, Daine Laurie, Brian Kelly just to name a few are from here and growing up here I can tell you there were players that were meant to be superstars over them that just didnât get a crack or not enough resources unless you travel up to the Gold Coast.
@@mitchhammond6321 itâs not a bad diet
@@briancoldwell98 never happen, there would be no money for it and even less people in the area to justify it.
Just give us it all
North Sydney bears playing out of north Sydney and central coast
Theyâd be ready to go in a year
If you want to do Perth do that too
Do a Christchurch team
They need to be viable generate players and fans where they are
So north Sydney bears doesnât take anything away from them
They tried this almost 20 plus years it will not work
Im from PNG and most of us here don't agree with our country being the 18th team. We have waayy too many issues that our government should invest and focus on instead of NRL. Trust me, our city is way too dangerous for the NRL players to settle in.
No way as a player Iâd go to PNG.
I wouldnât even go to NZ to be honest
Perth, Adelaide, Darwin.
Perth, Christchurch, Adelaide or south west Brisbane
Ringleader western
Perth, NZ South Island, and 3rd Brisbane team would be the best options for 20 team comp. Adelaide doesn't have the following and noone is going to want to live in PNG
I want Perth but not the Bears, West Aussies want their own unique team, Bears have nothing to do with WA. Needs to be unique. The Aussie government needs to help PNG set up some better pathways in PNG first. A country like PNG should be producing more NRL players than it does, scattered throughout the comp, that will improve the Kumuls. Maybe add another Q cup team and some in NSW cup first might be an option.
That's why I think they should just bring back the Western Reds. That's what Perth people will link up to...
@@jamesbutler8852 What Character? Large Red Kangaroo? What about the "Western Stingrays"? Any others people can think of?
How about us central coast people đą
Imagine playing for PNG, itâll be like your FIFO worker 6 months on, 6 months off đ
I know rubgy union has a side called Moana Pasifica, which is the super rugby side for all the small pacific nations such as Tonga and Samoa. I am suprised something like this isnt considered in the NRL. You could even play some games in Tonga and Samoa, kind of like how the Tigers play across different grounds to keep.thwir fans happh.
You can't safely have a team in PNG, no one would want to live there for one.
We need fewer teams not more. Get rid of these historic Sydney inner city teams like Easts and Souths, combine Canterbury and Saint George, combine Parramatta and Wests. That leaves Manly, Cronulla, Parra, Penrith, and a combined Saints/Canterbury in Sydney, with four in Queensland, Newcastle, Melbourne, Canberra, New Zealand. That's 13 out of the present 17 clubs. That's a good competition and allows for three more clubs from Perth, Pacific and a relocated Easts/Souths to Adelaide. There aren't enough true first grade players to. staff any more than 16 teams.
I would like PNG team to be the next team in but Perth, Adelaide, Darwin and a 2nd NZ team. A PNG team would be better off based out of Cairns and then take games to PNG
There is already enough teams in Australia. Give it to New Zealand
Why?
Nope win a premiership first
Did you even watch the Warriors game last week? We can't even field one competitive team, let alone two.
@@khankake9576 yeah I did, um did you know, close to 2 million people watched the super rugby final last week
It won't work in Christchurch or Wellington
The kea"s won't get support in christchurch unless they change the name the bulls is what represents canterbury
Canterbury Cows đź
Yeah, pretty corny name. They got cool colours though.
South Island Moa
South Island Mainlanders
If it's not a PNG team. We wait for another 200 years.
Should be North Sydney bears , it wonât be though.
How about making the existing clubs profitable and competitive before expanding. Thereâs only the same handful of teams that can actually win the comp year after year.
That's on those Clubs, not the League. The NRL should give those clubs a timeframe ultimatum of getting into the Black, relocate, or forfeit their license to an expansion team outside of NSW
Perth Jets
Central Coast Bears
Second Team in New Zealand
Simples
Then down the track in like 40-50 years if they want to go to 24 teams which would be ideal in terms of a NATIONAL Competition you could go-
Adelaide
Second team in Melbourne
Darwin over PNG
And Cairns
That would cover all bases
PNG will never work
Hobart ?
WA is a no brainer its and entire new time slot for live sport broadcaster can use.
We dont need a PNG team, Its a backwards step. They should start their own league and see how that goes.
Why would you do conferences?
Exactly, conferences ruined Super Rugby
People who propose Conferences for Australian leagues, habitually propose Conferences with lopsided travel burdens for one Conference and Bus trips for the other
Like idea of a 2nd nz team. But mainly cos kiwi. An think could do it. Kiwis n every team n oz. Got one side. Not doin that well right now.
As a North Sydney Bears fan there is no way I can support a Perth team. PNG is the only Bears team I could support because they wouldn't be Australian based.
Ringleader western coast club
Keas... The quality of white hard boys in Saders system would be great for kiwi league.
Central Coast, Darwin and Adelaide deserve a team the main reasons are time zones,distance ,fan support,exposure and sponsors.
No offence to PNG but it will be hard to convince players to move there and possible revenue will be really low .
Perth problems are all conected to distance and support .Western Force was the only rugby team in town and still went out of business really fast. Will be really hard for any team to travel and play there imagine the complaints from sides such as Cowboys and Warriors ...
There is offcorse the option of another New Zealand team the issue is financial till recently the Warriors owner was looking to sell the franchise and not sure what is the sitution now...
None taken, what person in their right mind would like to call this dung heap home. Scared to go out my own gate at times.
No second team in NZ. Warriors got pumped by 60 points. Thereâs no league comp in NZ and there isnât a high school comp either. These guys have no clue. If they are going to put a team in out of Christchurch, they better be a winning team. Kiwis ainât used to supporting losers
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is probably regretting going back to league, now, that the Auckland Blues are Super Rugby Champions, again.
No more NZ teams And no to PNG itâs supposed to be the National Rugby League. Last time I looked NZand PNG are not part of Australia,nrl is bloody pathetic these days
Thought melbourne was a joke back then.
If PNG are to have a team they should all be PNG natives
If that team canât compete in the NRL then so be it, but expecting Australian NRL players to sign up for that team and to be based in that country is just a ridiculous expectation
THE PEOPLE OF PNG DONT WANT A TEAM
Be nice for a Perth team but I don't think the support is there for the long term. Players for a PNG side will have to have a good mindset to be there. PNG will be interesting but it's political so it can change at a whim.
Perth Sea Eagles and then have the Manly Bears or the North Sydney Bears.
Fiji đ«đŻ have put Fiji NRL Bid too
As en ex-Bears supporter franchise moved to Perth, no thanks a firm pass. Franchises in PNG and South Island NZ, oh wait you're serious, I'll laugh a bit harder.
i'm still alive bring back the bears! if i die count my head stone please
That journo just repeated what Gus said about possible PNG expansion .... he knows nothing
Please no to PNG. We're simply not ready. Invest in our rugby league development instead.
Put a team in Bali
Do we have the junior competitions nationally, in numbers, to support expansion? Including female players. Is Mum and Dad concerned about their kids playing in what is considered âthe most physically demandingâ team sport in the world? There is some serious eyes on our game regarding head injuries. As with Rugby Union. I favourâŠâŠa team @ Gosford, @ Perth, @ Adelaide (just). Does North Sydney Oval (the bears) have adequate parking facilities? I donât support a team in PNG. The Cowboys can look after them. Even the other three Queenslander sides.
Move the Gold Coast Chargers to PerthâŠ. Perth Chargers sounds great! đ