Dealing With Injuries by Gordon Ryan
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- DEALING WITH INJURIES
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Gordon Ryan is the number one ranked BJJ black belt grappler on the planet. This is an excerpt from his new THE SPORT OF KINGS HIGH PERFORMANCE MINDSET FOR GRAPPLING available from BJJFanatics.com.
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Shout out to everyone watching this with an injury and trying to improve while unable to train. Broke my foot a month ago but I’m almost ready to get back. Keep grinding!
:)
Just did the same glad I'm not alone, it's my first week actually and someone landed on my ankle as I smacked my leg on the mat and I basically broke it so yee, gonna keep at it
fucked my PCL still out miss the mats :(
Wow you broke your foot and already affer a month??? Dont you think that pushing it a bit? I have an injury in my hand and i dont want to go yet even after a month :/
Dislocated shoulder here😅
“Find the balance between respecting your body, and not being a total pussy”. Solid advice.
There’s always a way to work around injuries and keep progressing with trusted training partners 🤜🏻🤛🏼
If you can’t train it physically then train it mentally, great advice dude. Stay healthy
There is a common misconception that people at the top train balls to the wall, EVERY SINGLE TIME!
I’m glad that you are putting this video out here for all of us, and specially for the young athletes thinking destroying their body is the only way to become the next Goat of a sport that doesn’t even pay that well (unless you are the top top)
Thanks King!
Mario Yamasaki told us many years ago. If you're hurt, stay off the mat. If you come back to fast, 2 days will turn into 2 months, then 2 years and then you have a lingering effect. Take it from someone who is older, slower and been injured. Taking a month off may seem like you're losing time. But if you train for 20 years. (From 15 to 35). Taking a month off to let yourself heal is .00041 of that 20 years. So in the long game, it's a blip.
Great advice. There's always things you can do outside of the gym that can elevate your overall game
If you're currently injured and watching this, good on you for trying to improve when you can't train. Safe and speedy recovery to everyone!
Finding partners that you can trust are very rare. If you have them, don't take them for granted.
It kinda makes me feel better about my injuries look at how good Gordan is at competing even after those injuries.
The cliche Gordon spoke of, getting better while injured, is a phenomenon that extends beyond grappling. Any time that you immersed in something as extensive as grappling, stepping away for an amount of time, whether it be for injury illness or personal reasons, can give you time to reflect on things and better understand a complex subject as a whole. All of the information you had been absorbing at practice bit by bit, which can seem overwhelming, can be fully assembled as a working thesis. In Navy Nuke School, I was an average student, 3.0 GPA until I had to go on medical leave for about 4 months. During that time, I was able to really envision the entire reactor, to imagine all of these different systems and how they worked together. When I came back, without even being allowed to study during that time off, I became a 3.9+GPA student. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but I went from about 50th percentile to top 1% in the most difficult and intense school in the military, and I didn't do anything different. I was able to study less. Instead of 30 hours a week, I would give it a few hours the night before a test and thats it. All because I had that time off to put it all together in my head. And red bull.
They tried to rope me into that...
way to nuke it.
Thank you Mr. Gordon for the advice! I wish I got this advice years ago. Having good partners that take care of you is super important. Years ago, I rolled with a blue belt that was also a judoka black belt over 40lbs heavier than me a couple of times. He took both of my shoulders home in different occasions lol. I stopped rolling with the guy after the last time he did a violent uchimata and almost dislocated my shoulder. I re-injured each shoulder on different occasions again because of inexperience and getting back to training too soon. It took longer to heal after re-injuring each shoulder. It’s important to allow injuries to fully heal and get back to training slowly and train with partners that know how to train with injured people... do not train with white belts if you are coming back from injury. I was luckily able to come back from shoulder, ribs, knee, elbow, and wrist injuries (fingers and toes come with the territory), but what I find most difficult now is dealing with Father Time and a herniated disc. At over 40, three years ago I’ve already accepted my limitations as I get older (it never stops once it starts lol), but dealing with a herniated disc is something you will have forever and it limits your training so much. I train with the best posture possible, but year by year I’m losing more of my flexibility and mobility, and my back acts up from time to time. I still keep on training 3 times a week though as I know I will lose more if I stop. My goal is to improve and stay healthy within my limitations. I used to get so depressed when I aspired for more than I could possibly handle. I think when we start to get old, this is something we learn to do and it makes training so much more enjoyable! Respect to all the brothers and sisters here that have gone through injury and still train, and the older guys that still keep doing it!
Thank you for the advice. When I'm injured like now torn pec. I watche jiu-jitsu moves on CZcams. And think about defense vs offense. Like this keep me going. Cant wait to start sparring again next week. My doc said today no sparring. If you do dont do anything crazy. I just smile. Thanks again Mr. Gordon
There's quite a few old folks I work with that now know an unholy amount about the various utilities of the collar tie or the hip escape because through keeping Jiu Jitsu front and centre during my knee and shoulder injuries, Jiu Jitsu rehab has come up as a topic of conversation. Seeing folks only months from end of life doing isometrics and balance exercises puts things in perspective. There's almost always a way to get value out of your situation, even if you're extremely limited by injury or circumstance.
Man that’s so true! I’ve noticed that when I can’t train, it gives me time to think about my game and fix some problems in my mind. When I go back to the mat it feels like I never took time off…thanks Gordon..obviously watching this now with a torn meniscus fml
tell me about it I have both knees torn lol. I just don't do take downs right now and I play guard more.
06:43 honestly motivated me so much. I am currently facing a complicated ankle Injury with a pending surgery to prevent arthrosis. I will probably be unable to train for 8 to 16 weeks. I am in my mid 20´s and just started to take competition serious after 3 years of training. I never had any serious injuries and I am kind of terrified. Jiu Jitsu developed into my biggest passion and the thought of having to stop the sport or dealing with a big set back is hard to stomach, but now I am really determined to make the most out of it!
I just had my foot sprained and I was worried that it was going to ruin me, I know this is weird but you talking about all your list of injuries makes me feel greatful and less worried about coming back fully.
i wish all i had was a foot sprain
I feel the same man. Grad to know someone has much more worse injuries than mine. And even more, that’s Gordon Ryan. Hope you fast recovery and Stay healthy
so much respect for this guy
This is a great video. I’m a blue belt. I just broke my right ring finger on my right hand (choking hand gripping the lapel) doing a bow and arrow choke. I heard it snap as soon as I threw my leg over the shoulder. It was during a sparring match at my school with another blue belt. I had a displacement fracture that went down at a gnarly angle. I just had surgery less than 24 hours ago and my surgeon was Dr. John Knight. He put two screws in to repair my finger.
I am not on insurance so it definitely ended up being expensive. Really makes me think that if I want to continue doing what I love I may need to invest in health insurance. I have a household of four and it can be expensive. I’ve had some other injuries that weren’t horrible but sidelined me. I always still come to class and be a support to my other teammates and try to continue to learn when and wherever I can. My recovery time is six weeks with rehab. Definitely going to be easing back into training after I am fully recovered.
Thank you sir. Great words of wisdom.
Thanks for sharing I thought I was the only one who gets injured. To think you're in your 20s and and still get that type of injuries. People would think that it's because of age but reality is it happens with all ages. And that it also happens to high level guys. Great stuff!
Right? Got two gnarly back to back injuries in my 20’s and really stunted my fitness.
Gordon is a legend for dealing with all of these injuries
Lol, I had a grade 2 tear of my right mcl as a blue belt also!! Lol, my daughter said, “you’re almost the next Gordon Ryan, Dad.” (Heavy sarcasm in her voice)
Do you have to get surgery for that or does it heal on its own?
@@bane3991 It took me 3 months of rehabbing it to get it back to normal, no surgery. I used a lot of youtube rehab videos, lots of stretching the muscles around the joint, lots of mobility exercises for the joint, and CBD oil (from Charlotte's Web and Lazarus Naturals). Then, I started going back to drilling slowly, wearing a brace, then a few weeks later rolling light with small teammates I know wouldn't do anything stupid (no white belts), and then I started working back to normal rolling and eventually (a few months later) 100% no brace. Just take it really slow. I've had friends who rushed it and then tore their ACL and haven't made it back in years. This is one to be careful with, but if you need any other advice, let me know.
@@jasonarch2812 Ohhhh alright that's good news. I am prone to kneecap dislocations. How does your brace not fall off or get damaged when training? Also, how do you clean it?
@@bane3991 Yeah, that sounds like a tracking problem. If you get a decent brace, it should stay where it's supposed to. First I tried a regular sleeve with two straps, but it didn't hold very well, so I bought a McDavid knee brace with a strap on either side and an internal hinge (one sewn into the fabric, not a mechanical one on the outside) and it did the trick. I didn't have it slide or anything. I have a buddy who still trains even after tearing an ACL and hasn't had surgery yet, and he wears a sleeve on the outside of his pants and he seems to do ok. I don't know if I'd suggest that though. Lots of guys just train through injuries, but that's also why I've seen 2 friends have to quit permanently because they injured their knees worse the 2nd time while ignoring their injuries.
good info, thank you.
Watching this while with an injury here. I felt frustrated when I injured my wrist. I thought of being an athlete before the injury but now I couldn’t even hold my bag myself. I have stopped training for two weeks and yes I watch jiujitsu move in CZcams every night and practice in my mind. This clip is like a big relief to me Gordon said everything I’m feeling right now and what I should do next. I’m grad to I watched this video tonight with my injury. I hope you guys feel the same. Thank you Gordon and stay healthy everyone.
Dude I just got hurt and feel the same. First week I couldn’t even lift my phone in a certain way.. very demoralizing
Thank you Gordon
You're the best no gi grappler on the world on this moment, keep up the good werk👍. greetz from the Netherlands.
Thanks Gordo Bryan
The advice at the end is really good
Had a intercostal strain 5 months ago been getting back to training way Til early and reinjured 3 times so I am taking at least a month of ALL hard physical activities/workouts and I’ll see How I feel then. Keeping the mental game up is gonna be huge. Great advice.
How are you doing now a year later? I had the same thing happen 2 weeks ago and today is the first day I am finally not having sharp, stabbing pain and have a bit of my mobility back but wondering how long I should rest before going back?
moral of the story dont be afraid to tap early
True story
I tap early and see higher belts get annoyed they didn't get to torque heel hooks and shit... but I left my ego at the door... I'm here to roll and walk home... not roll and be carted off to A&E
Real talk
yeah man ive saved people while rolling like i was about to break your arm you need to chill out and tap i was being nice... some people get way too into it and forget this is about learning like im here 5+ times a week u cant roll like that and be here every week
I had an ACL tear and was out for two years just getting back. 2 strip blue. I forgot a lot of fundamentals its humbling.
Being injured really sucks.. Great advice.
Ty for that.
I was wondering why I haven't seen you compete lately, sorry Gordon I hope you get better soon so you can show these guys who the f'n King is !!!
2 years later I’m still not on the mats. Herniated my L4-L5 and I’m still having nerve issues. I also have Anterior Pelvic Tilt which is also an issue. I miss bjj so bad and I’m scared as hell to go back. Especially at 45
How did you get injured?
Well you aren’t getting any younger
I have the same issue, plus bulging disk, and l4 l5 fusion. what helps is proper physical therapy and seeing a chiropractor once a week and I can train through all this. good luck 👍🏾
You have ruled out periformis syndrome for certain?
@@SDGunfighter congrats bro!
Broke my foot 20 days ago and had surgery, tough mentally but I can’t wait to start exercising again
I'm 51 and just started jiu-jitsu a few months ago and broke my little toe in my second class doing a take down. I had just paid my tuition too...lol...so they showed me how to buddy tape the toe and I haven't missed a beat yet...
"Craig broke my arm in half" I fucking knew he had that armbar locked, lmao. Gordon's a freak for not tapping but hey, he got paid.
For a serious athletes like yourself you can do great stuff with it
This was real good advice. I just recently got my first stripe for my white belt and was asked to roll with a guy that has a tournament coming up. To make a long story short, my body was already heavily fatigued, and I ended up twisting weird and pulling my rib muscles. Very painful and kind of embarrassing. I needed to hear this. Very good stuff
How long did that take to heal?
@@SingaporeFriedrice about 4 weeks
Did you hear a pop when it happened? I had the same thing happen to me. Pain was super intense, today is 2 weeks since the injury and it’s only just now starting to subside a little bit. Are you 100% now? I’ve read that some people with rib muscle injuries always have underlying pain or discomfort.
@@esteban8183 I'm all healed now, I didn't hear a pop, I just tore my intercostal muscles.
Broke my shoulder today looks like I gotta watch the classes for the next few weeks 👌🏽
Got a neck and shoulder injury with a competition tommorow. Neck was injured yesterday. I am so annoying at myself for allowing myself to get injured a few days before comp. I should have just taken the week off rolling, but in the past I've never really had an issue before, I roll light and everything is fine. But yesterday, someone caught my neck at a bad angle when transitioning, and it re-injury a neck pain I had months ago. Not ideal.
Just need to push forward and get it done anyway.
great video!!! this totally helps, i wonder who are the 8 people that thumbs down this video, just some haters
Im a white belt, with only 2 months and just got my first injury, someone heavier than me push all his weight on my left ribs with his elbow and now i have 10 days recovering, glad i found this video from one of the best to ever do it
Move to another academy
Try to tell your partners. I had the same issue with a 300 lb guy (literally) dropping into side control on me, not even aggressively but with his weight he has to be careful.
@@jackjack4412 why would you roll with a guy that heavy. Makes no sense except that you are a black belt
So in the match with Craig Jones he did break his arm. Damn I thought it was an escape. Gordon is a champ
Rock solid advice Gordo. Thank you.
Someone 175 did the s mount on my chest. Hurt my rib. Took about 1.5 months to heal. 125 bounced off my chest and didn't really feel it.
Popped rib. Attending as many classes as I can while participating where it makes sense given the injury. Continue learning everyone.
How long until you were able to train again without pain?
Thank you Gordon. You are our inspiration
I got kneed in the back by a crazy white belt like 4 months ago still hurts
White belts will hurt you worse than experienced grapplers
Get to a doctor man, 4 months should not be a thing!
@@JoaoPedro-rq3qi i tried eventually went to a walk in they said probably just pinched nerve shit still hurts
@@chetfreeland1920 have you tried gravity bots( not joking), I messed up my back 2 years ago and doing it 10 min a day got rid of the pain
@@JoaoPedro-rq3qi what is a gravity bot
Thanks so much, Gordon. I'm a fan of yours now because of this honesty & sharing this precious knowledge. I've got a thumb injury and it was making me depressed to not be able to train. Thanks for showing that we can all came back to it given enough time.
Look into wim hoff method
Has anyone ever had pain in their hand where in between your pinky and ring finger it hurts? Also if I squeeze the sides of my hand it hurts. Grips getting ripped away isn’t fun either. It’s in my left hand and the side close to the pinky hurts sometimes as well. Any insight are much appreciated. Also I had X-rays so I know it’s not broken.
Broke my hand in BJJ yesterday, sucks balls but I appreciate this video
I don't compete but it's all about finding and sometimes 'nurturing' a training partner you can trust. It actually takes time and investment to find someone in class like that. I've sprained my ankle and a good training partner will roll with you, will be cognizant of it and mindful but still allow you to work. Those partners are rare.
the thing he said at the end about remaining mentally engaged was pretty interesting
He said not many injuries and then proceeded to list like 15 injuries. Daaaamn.
man, i just injured my ribs recently and i'm soo sad about it. I've been watching videos and thinking about it but its not the same if i can't implement what im thinking.
Got injured my right knee LCL ,got checked by a doctor and he sent me to rest for 2 months with no deep check of my injury. I have been doing yoga for more than a year, bought a mat and a dummy to drill with, but not sure how good my knee is right now in a real fight. Never did Ray X or formally checked if I needed surgery after the 2 months I was not ready, now I can run in a peaceful way. Doing lot of mountain biking to try to make my knees stronger at the end I do not feel pain even if I ride rocky sections my knee acts fine. Would you rec to go and try a class in any school or should I go to a doctor either way?. Has been a year and few months that I feel great but not sure about my LCL thanks for anyone who can help with this.
Check out KneesOverToesGuy on CZcams, he has a ton of strengthening and conditioning exercises for knees.
Every TIME I’ve been injured it’s been with I guy about 40lbs heavier than me. Probably doesn’t help I’m over 40
I love Bjj, but my body does not. I train light but keep getting injured, not sure if its worth it anymore. its sad.
is that a Breitling?
visualization is huge
2 weeks into practice this dude cranked a gullotine on my neck and pulled the shit out of the muscles in my upper neck, i wake up with horrible neck pain every day now after 2 months since this happened. i been icing it doing everything you can think of this shit sucks
Had that happen to me. Had my gf massage in Tiger Balm Ultra, then I put on a cotten t-shirt and went to bed. Had to do it several times but it helped me immensely.
Ice used too much/long after an injury can slow healing. It’s most often used immediately after an injury to prevent swelling.
He Sounds like Ben Shapiro in this video lol
I dont do tornaments but when i roll with my buddies at the gym i always do get joint injuries im 17 should i keep going if i have joint injuries like my elbows from armbars? I also do boxing and mauy thai btw
Quit bjj, is going to affect your striking
@Chunchun how are your joints? This seems like a plenty good time to look back. I've hardly done much sparring in bjj, and only like once boxing, but I notice that my training partner can practically steer the session in one direction or another. So speak up if they're provoking or straight up causing it, or perhaps take it steady yourself, or both. Best wishes
What about his NECK specifically? How he is doing with that?
I’m still waiting for that “gentle art” BJJ school.
I have a shoulder injury and it sucks
❤
I have a foot injury it sucks not able to train
1:39 By this time my lame excuses had been disolved😂
Does Gordon also train wearing a GI ?
I read he does.
Dislocated my shoulder 3 times, now i have stiff shoulder for one year, i can't move more than 20% of my shoulder and stills bad. No progress. I'm afraid of the surgery but it will be the only way. physiotherapy doesn't solve my case anymore 😔
My back took 3 years. I’m 80 to 90 percent. I’ll take it 👍
@@hairynipps2599 What happened with your back?
Hang on a bar
Those frozen shoulders take 1 to 3 years to heal. Take it easy…
Gordon: ya I’ve broken every limb on my body but nothing major
There would be alot less injuries especialy on the knees ACL if the gyms would lay down softer matts,,there all rock hard,,its a no brainer....
Tried to fight out of a darce last week, now my neck feels like a pepper grinder... it's taken me out of training
100% more watchable than Eddie bravo. Thank you for being the no gi paragon alternative.
Humility, grace, methodology. 🤩
Just wondering, what's wrong with Eddie?
@@dinomra7771 eddie is great
Eddie is just so passionate about jiu jitsu he can't contain his excitement. Every time he talks about it you can see it consumes him. Gordon has a much more calm controlled style and is clearly a product of danaher and tonon.
Eddie is gold. Pure entertainment, pure Jitz.
Just keep up your routine dosage of hgh and trt
popped my ankle and ac joint dislocation grade 2
Not really been injured much... then proceeds to list injuries for two mins straight. Every actual jiujitsu person is like this
Gordon “baby hands” Ryan
it'll all show up a little later in life- with the path he's chosen-- he'll be a wobbly , limping 55 year old
Blew both my knees twice and im scared to train again now that i just hit 40
Oh shit. So craig did break his arm
Gordon Ryan you have rib injury?
6:46 came back better
“Respect your body, but don’t be a Pussy” CLIP IT!
Gordan “I ain’t tapping for shit” Ryan
When I break a bone or tear a ligament, I just sleep it off, then eat some chicken, rice, and broccoli. If I REALLY want to get better, I listen to David Goggins yelling at me to stop being such a wimp, and my testosterone level goes through the roof.
herniated discs in my back and that was the end of my bjj career lmao
GSD w/FLTF1?
U still training bjj?
Broken toes and fingers? Dang.
Bruised the ribs on my left side from a dumb 250lb blue belt doing double leg takedowns and dumbing me on my back
Broke my radius bone clean and dislocated my wrist skateboarding am I cooked
You have to learn to compete with pain. If you can't put it outta your mind for 5 minutes then don't compete or train
Why is he not talking about steroids when dealing with injuries?
I think Gordon crossed the line into straight up villainy
Lol he still has the 120lbs voice 🤣
But he would still f... you up
@@andreasmau9686 we would have to see about that..
Okay. Dream on 🤣👍🏻
@@andreasmau9686 cool story bra
That’s because he hasn’t taken any bombada 🥱🥱🥱... Clean as a whistle
is he wearing a breitling superocean heritage
I am
@@gordonryan3494 thats pretty sweet, i just got one of the older superocean chronographs with a silver dial, breitling is my favorite watch brand
This must be why he juices so bad now
You could be in 20 street fights and never get injured like many BJJ guys. What's the point of taking BJJ for self-defense, again?
Yup and you can be in 1 street fight, get knocked out, hit your head on a curb and die... BJJ is actually pretty safe compared to most martial arts.
you must be fighting infants
This is the dumbest fucking comment I've ever seen on CZcams. Kudos for that bud.
Exactly.. all the ego and testosterone has gone too far .. better to find a training partner and train at home 😂