Many years ago the Greek bouzouki was introduced into Irish folk music because those musicians (like Johnny Moynihan) could see a use for it. In time it was re-designed to best meet its new role. So theoretically the Irish bouzouki is the most effective for Irish folk music.
I vote for Greek bouzouki because I believe they look better, sound better, and the overall playing style is more fun in my opinion. Don't get me wrong though, the Irish version is great, but Greek is better.
Greek for sure!!! I have a greek bouzouki and built my own irish and the round back brings another dimension of sound to the instrument. The irish works great as a guitar replacement but doesn't seem to carry the authentic greek bouzouki tone. Not that it needs to, just for me, the greek bouzoukis tone is so exquisite and rich with uniqueness!!! Thanks for the time and effort put into making the video
Irish has a more guitar-irsh sound, perfect for celtic pentatonic scales, meanwhile Greek has a more mandolin-ish with more southern sounds. I prefer the Irish one (in spite of being Greek myself :D)
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I'm half Greek Cypriot and have heard a lifetime of Greek Bouzouki. I love the difference in the sound of the Irish Bouzouki. They're both nice. I'm not going to say which I prefer. Lol
We should prefer the one or the other according to the orgin of music we decide to play. Folk Irish music with a Greek bouzouki or Zorba's dance with an Irish bouzouki wouldn't sound familiar.
I own an Irish one, by Hora. Haven't got my hands on a Greek one; cannot compare. From what I hear in the video, I think I prefer the Irish one; for the music I tend to play (Irish/Scottish, Bluegrass, and the like), it sounds better. That doesn't mean it's better for all forms of music.
Contrary to notions, both instruments are new and quite very un-explored. The traditional Greek bouzouki evolved out of 3-double string instruments such as the tzuras and tambouras - both coming from the ancient pandouras (including their names) known also as trichordon (i.e.3 strings- chord in Greek means string actually). This is a large family of bowled string instruments that includes among many other the Persian setar, tar and tanbur and the Russian balalaika. In its primary format the bouzouki was, it too, a 3-double string instrument tuned to D-A-D and is a format that is still widely played in Greece with all bouzouki players owning and playing one as per the style of music. What most people though are most familiar with is the 4-double string version which is surprisingly new as it was the innovation of famous Greek bouzouki player Manolis Chiotis, as recently as in year 1950 - we talk at a time electric guitars already existed!.Manolis Chiotis was also a guitar player and he wanted to add guitar styles on bouzouki thus added the 4th double string (the bass 2-octave one) and tuned it to C-F-A-D so that he could use the same shape of guitar chords on bouzouki as well as play his amazing virtuosic solos the same way he would play them on guitar. It was an immediate hit and since then the 4-double string bouzouki became the main format of bouzouki that most people know. Meanwhile in the 1960s a group of Irish folk musicians not satisfied with the sound of guitar (too generic for the needs of Irish folk) and seeking to improve their sound were interested in the sound of the bouzouki and came to Greece, purchased instruments and started experimenting. They added too the 4th string but kept the origin D-A-D tuning thus G-D-A-D which worked well with Irish folk to the point that people today think it is an age-old traditional Irish instrument (this just shows how successful the adaptation was). Also since they were playing it standing they preferred a flat back and hence the bigger sized sound box. The sound of the Irish bouzouki is thus different but is great too - the Irish bouzouki is a 100% Irish instrument in its own right. For guitar players, the Irish bouzouki is easier to handle due to the flat back but effectively the Greek 4-string bouzouki is easier to play since it has the same layout as the guitar. Both are great instruments and, as said, still largely un-explored. There is so much more to be played on them.
There is something about the sound of the Irish bouzouki that reflects the punctured soul of the Irish people. But the exquisitely twangy sound of the Greek reflects what it means to be Greek. To those unaccustomed to the sound of a Greek bouzouki, it could come across as harsh and without nuance. And yet, it stands among the most recognized sounds in the world, as it defines human passion like nothing else. Think of Anthony Quinn teaching his friend how to dance in the last scene of Zorba the Greek. The sheer joy he expresses as his song plays on! As a Greek, my partiality to the Greek bouzouki should be understandable, for I "get it." But I welcome the sound emanating from that of the Irish. It smooths out the rough edges of the traditional bouzouki, and in so doing presents a new dimension to what bouzouki music entails. Greek bouzouki is not misty-eyed, but brutally honest. Its distant Irish cousin leans more into the sound of a mandolin, lending sentimentality its dignity. And as for the instrument itself, the Greek bouzouki must be coaxed it to produce its optimal sound. This is not easy, but so rewarding once done well. Yet, without question, the Irish take should be regarded as evolutionary, destined to travel far and wide and conquer the hearts of those it encounters in its journey.
I feel that Irish folk music sounds more pleasing on the bouzouki, but I do like the sound of a Greek bouzouki. It is cool that the instrument itself is able to suit a variety of genres of music.
love them both my favourite is the Greek Bouzouki also to point out it is more harder to make much more the bowl is hard piece by piece and its not flat like the Irish which has a flat back two pieces Greek has minimum of 15 then 30 and 60 peices of wood to make bowl...and looks better lot of detail ..and that's there truth..love them both ...Greek for me..!!!!!
I entered Hora factory store to buy a Romanian shepherds flute and came out with a nice black irish bouzouki. I want to use it for blues like a 4 string guitar in open g tunning. Does anybody else tried that ? I am not sure what strings to use. Any suggestions?
İkisininde yeri ayrı. Irish bouzouki (iriş buzuki) daha gitarımsı. Diğeri daha fazla sesi bağlamaya benziyor zaten gitar ile bağlamanın karışımıdır, ancak kendine has bir sesi, atmosferi var. Şahsen ikisini de seviyorum.
I have both and they both offer a world of musical possibilities! The Greek has a more crystalline sound, plus the fact that the tuning is easy for guitar players to get used to.
he shouldve tuned the irish one the greek way and vice versa and played greek music on the irish one and irish music on the greek one... otherwise what was the point?
It you have an electrified bouzouki, try to play it with a good compressor ( i use it also for my electric bouzouki, you can see it on my logo photo,near a banjo), it will improve your sound quality! I have the TC Hypergravity, and I could not believe to my ears,much,much better ! Suggested !!
The arched top of the Greek makes it project with a stronger midrange (I'm curious if both had new strings) but I bet the Irish has more bass presence if you're in the room hearing it live. I like the unison courses of the Irish because you can control the range of melody notes, whereas the octave-tuned lower courses of the Greek sound jarring when you're playing a melodic line that descends and suddenly you hear the higher octave. Ultimately whatever seems louder will perceived as "better" and in this video the Greek was definitely louder.
The Greek Bouzouki on the video is cheep, but if you get the more expensive one, the sound is unbelievable. If you want me to compare between the Irish and the Greek Bouzouki, the Greek is one step ahead.
Apples and oranges, in spite of the name. They sound very different and are tuned differently too. Personally I love the sound and versatility of an Irish bouzouki, sort of like a hybrid between 8 string mandolin and 12 string guitar... anything from strong and percussive to shimmering.
I like them both but i love Bouzouki. i have been to many concerts as young with many different gf as i was younger. Gf´s from Sweden most but also british and Hungarian. I never believed a woman would get orgasm by dansing and love the music of bouzouki. Only later on i understood it was Spiritual orgasm. You know that when you let your spirit open the door to Paradise. I dont know how to ell but what they told me is like washing their soul. Like it has no more bad thoughts or hate or likely inside them....You have to Party greek to feel it. As i saw now later women in Israel react to grek music As later on when i saw concerts from Israel even if it's with electric guitar i understood more what they mean and they look similar on face expressions :) wonderful to see happy people love my countries music. Its someting special only them who can open their spiti can feel it
I'm a Greek, but as a conventional 6 string guitarist I prefer the warmer sound of the Irish bouzouki. Irish is much better for playing chords but if you want to shred lead bouzouki the Greek one is the way to go.
Both versions of the bouzouki are very cool in their own right. The Greek bouzouki was introduced in the 1910s by the Turks, but it's so similar to the Ancient Greek pandura and Byzantine tamboura that it's natural to their music. The Irish bouzouki is interesting since it sounds similar to the octave mandolin and pairs nicely with Celtic folk music, but still keeps a bit of that Mediterranean flair to it. The way the Irish adopted the bouzouki is very similar to how they adopted the tenor banjo from their Appalachian counterparts in the Southeastern United States.
From what I can see, the Irish bouzouki does not use an octave difference tuning for the top two pairs of strings (ie a thick and an thin string tuned to the same note) like the Greek tetrachordon. This is what I feel gives the Greek bouzouki some of the eastern kind of sound. Me personally, I love both of them and I have a Greek bouzouki that I play on. I would love to to get hold of an irish one though, because it sounds great and try it on some Greek rembetika!
I see... Does the bridge need to be different for the octave difference strings compared to that of the same-string? I ask because on my bouzouki, the groove for the bass string is bigger so that it can be accommodated. Anyway, very informative video and thank you for your reply.
The grooves in the bridge just help that the string will stay on it. it doesn't have to be fit like the nut. But still it is easy to find a bridge and to change it. So the sting just need to have a groove.
Greek bouzouki sounds great for Greek or eastern music , and Irish for irish or Celtic music .If you use them on the contrary will not get the same performance
Love them both and i feel honoured that our friends the Irish adopted the bouzouki.........
My dad was Greek and mom Irish and German. Her family had a Bluegrass band and I always felt it was similar to Greek music
Thank you, my Greek siblings!
I like them both, the Irish one sounds warmer and more familiar while the Greek one sounds more exotic.
I'm Greek and the Irish one sounds exotic to me haha
Well to greek people the greek one is more familiar
Many years ago the Greek bouzouki was introduced into Irish folk music because those musicians (like Johnny Moynihan) could see a use for it. In time it was re-designed to best meet its new role. So theoretically the Irish bouzouki is the most effective for Irish folk music.
The Greek style Bouzouki are great too in Irish as per Alec Finn, Mick Connelly
I vote for Greek bouzouki because I believe they look better, sound better, and the overall playing style is more fun in my opinion. Don't get me wrong though, the Irish version is great, but Greek is better.
The Irish sounds like the Greek but with chorus effect enabled
I like the Greek style...
Don't we all...XD
Greek for sure!!! I have a greek bouzouki and built my own irish and the round back brings another dimension of sound to the instrument. The irish works great as a guitar replacement but doesn't seem to carry the authentic greek bouzouki tone. Not that it needs to, just for me, the greek bouzoukis tone is so exquisite and rich with uniqueness!!! Thanks for the time and effort put into making the video
Agree, I play OM a because I play melody & it’s a tone more like the Greek, metinks
BOTH! I want to see a jam with both of them, shredding something metal, or having a duel/duet.
BOTH ARE GREAT! EACH ONE FOR IT'S OWN REASONS AND STYLE OF MUSIC
Greek one,...Even better would be trichordo :-) I jest. I'm happy to hear either played, and happy to hear either Irish music or Rembetika !
Irish has a more guitar-irsh sound, perfect for celtic pentatonic scales, meanwhile Greek has a more mandolin-ish with more southern sounds. I prefer the Irish one (in spite of being Greek myself :D)
its because of tuning lol
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I'm half Greek Cypriot and have heard a lifetime of Greek Bouzouki. I love the difference in the sound of the Irish Bouzouki. They're both nice. I'm not going to say which I prefer. Lol
We should prefer the one or the other according to the orgin of music we decide to play. Folk Irish music with a Greek bouzouki or Zorba's dance with an Irish bouzouki wouldn't sound familiar.
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Tell that to Andy Irvine 😉
As an Irishman, I'm sad to say I prefer the tone of the Greek bazooka. 😂
you just can't beat the greek bouzouki but the Irish one puts up a pretty strong fight
I'm Irish but I actually prefer the Greek sound better. It sounds more dramatic and emotional.
I own an Irish one, by Hora. Haven't got my hands on a Greek one; cannot compare.
From what I hear in the video, I think I prefer the Irish one; for the music I tend to play (Irish/Scottish, Bluegrass, and the like), it sounds better. That doesn't mean it's better for all forms of music.
Contrary to notions, both instruments are new and quite very un-explored. The traditional Greek bouzouki evolved out of 3-double string instruments such as the tzuras and tambouras - both coming from the ancient pandouras (including their names) known also as trichordon (i.e.3 strings- chord in Greek means string actually). This is a large family of bowled string instruments that includes among many other the Persian setar, tar and tanbur and the Russian balalaika. In its primary format the bouzouki was, it too, a 3-double string instrument tuned to D-A-D and is a format that is still widely played in Greece with all bouzouki players owning and playing one as per the style of music. What most people though are most familiar with is the 4-double string version which is surprisingly new as it was the innovation of famous Greek bouzouki player Manolis Chiotis, as recently as in year 1950 - we talk at a time electric guitars already existed!.Manolis Chiotis was also a guitar player and he wanted to add guitar styles on bouzouki thus added the 4th double string (the bass 2-octave one) and tuned it to C-F-A-D so that he could use the same shape of guitar chords on bouzouki as well as play his amazing virtuosic solos the same way he would play them on guitar. It was an immediate hit and since then the 4-double string bouzouki became the main format of bouzouki that most people know.
Meanwhile in the 1960s a group of Irish folk musicians not satisfied with the sound of guitar (too generic for the needs of Irish folk) and seeking to improve their sound were interested in the sound of the bouzouki and came to Greece, purchased instruments and started experimenting. They added too the 4th string but kept the origin D-A-D tuning thus G-D-A-D which worked well with Irish folk to the point that people today think it is an age-old traditional Irish instrument (this just shows how successful the adaptation was). Also since they were playing it standing they preferred a flat back and hence the bigger sized sound box. The sound of the Irish bouzouki is thus different but is great too - the Irish bouzouki is a 100% Irish instrument in its own right.
For guitar players, the Irish bouzouki is easier to handle due to the flat back but effectively the Greek 4-string bouzouki is easier to play since it has the same layout as the guitar. Both are great instruments and, as said, still largely un-explored. There is so much more to be played on them.
There is something about the sound of the Irish bouzouki that reflects the punctured soul of the Irish people. But the exquisitely twangy sound of the Greek reflects what it means to be Greek. To those unaccustomed to the sound of a Greek bouzouki, it could come across as harsh and without nuance. And yet, it stands among the most recognized sounds in the world, as it defines human passion like nothing else. Think of Anthony Quinn teaching his friend how to dance in the last scene of Zorba the Greek. The sheer joy he expresses as his song plays on!
As a Greek, my partiality to the Greek bouzouki should be understandable, for I "get it." But I welcome the sound emanating from that of the Irish. It smooths out the rough edges of the traditional bouzouki, and in so doing presents a new dimension to what bouzouki music entails. Greek bouzouki is not misty-eyed, but brutally honest. Its distant Irish cousin leans more into the sound of a mandolin, lending sentimentality its dignity.
And as for the instrument itself, the Greek bouzouki must be coaxed it to produce its optimal sound. This is not easy, but so rewarding once done well. Yet, without question, the Irish take should be regarded as evolutionary, destined to travel far and wide and conquer the hearts of those it encounters in its journey.
I feel that Irish folk music sounds more pleasing on the bouzouki, but I do like the sound of a Greek bouzouki. It is cool that the instrument itself is able to suit a variety of genres of music.
I prefer Greek because I'm Greek soooooo.
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thanks for the information ! much apreciated!
Depends on the kind of music you want to play..
I am Greek I live in Vienna and my best friend is Irish
Think I prefer the Greek one .bright exotic sound
love them both my favourite is the Greek Bouzouki also to point out it is more harder to make much more the bowl is hard piece by piece and its not flat like the Irish which has a flat back two pieces Greek has minimum of 15 then 30 and 60 peices of wood to make bowl...and looks better lot of detail ..and that's there truth..love them both ...Greek for me..!!!!!
Love them equally
Love both!!!!
:)
I entered Hora factory store to buy a Romanian shepherds flute and came out with a nice black irish bouzouki. I want to use it for blues like a 4 string guitar in open g tunning. Does anybody else tried that ? I am not sure what strings to use. Any suggestions?
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Irish.. but i'm getting the same HOra your were playing.. i love its depth of sound and its mellow yet bright tone.
İkisininde yeri ayrı. Irish bouzouki (iriş buzuki) daha gitarımsı. Diğeri daha fazla sesi bağlamaya benziyor zaten gitar ile bağlamanın karışımıdır, ancak kendine has bir sesi, atmosferi var. Şahsen ikisini de seviyorum.
I have both and they both offer a world of musical possibilities! The Greek has a more crystalline sound, plus the fact that the tuning is easy for guitar players to get used to.
I am Greek so the Greek one, but that doesn't mean I don't like the Irish one. It sounds good but I like the Greek sound better
I am interested to hear both of them playing a Greek and an irish song
You have it here:
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Like Greek bouzouki but much better The Irish bouzouki between the different of sound !
he shouldve tuned the irish one the greek way and vice versa and played greek music on the irish one and irish music on the greek one... otherwise what was the point?
Needs a clearer showing of the one your playing at the moment. Few more licks in some parts would also be helpful to distinguish the two.
I'd like a Greek bouzouki with a flat back. Quite difficult to find
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so the winner is...ok I'll buy them both
the greek sounds like a 12string guitar. like in the intro for "ticket to ride" by the beatles.
the irish more like a medieval lute.
because is tetrachordo
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It you have an electrified bouzouki, try to play it with a good compressor ( i use it also for my electric bouzouki, you can see it on my logo photo,near a banjo), it will improve your sound quality! I have the TC Hypergravity, and I could not believe to my ears,much,much better ! Suggested !!
I would say the opposite
its like 2 beautiful women blonde and brunette etc lol ... i love them all music is music no matter from where its all beautiful
Can you tune an Irish bouzouki in the greek tuning?
WhIch is which one now?
The Greek one
The arched top of the Greek makes it project with a stronger midrange (I'm curious if both had new strings) but I bet the Irish has more bass presence if you're in the room hearing it live. I like the unison courses of the Irish because you can control the range of melody notes, whereas the octave-tuned lower courses of the Greek sound jarring when you're playing a melodic line that descends and suddenly you hear the higher octave. Ultimately whatever seems louder will perceived as "better" and in this video the Greek was definitely louder.
I'm Irish and I like the Greek sound better
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No, you can't. Go love Irish one.
The Greek Bouzouki on the video is cheep, but if you get the more expensive one, the sound is unbelievable. If you want me to compare between the Irish and the Greek Bouzouki, the Greek is one step ahead.
It is around 1500 euro bouzouki. Not high end but not 300 euro....
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It would have been more interesting to make the whole comparison using a 3 strings greek bouzouki, especially since it has a more unique sound
Since I play bass, I like the lower tones of the Irish one.
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Apples and oranges, in spite of the name. They sound very different and are tuned differently too.
Personally I love the sound and versatility of an Irish bouzouki, sort of like a hybrid between 8 string mandolin and 12 string guitar... anything from strong and percussive to shimmering.
Could you play some Greek music on the Irish bouzouki?
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Try to play zembekiko of Evdokia with both, then we decide...
Many Old Greek instruments were like the Irish bouzouki, the problem was they weren't loud enough.
Can I tune the Irish one CFAD?
Yes. but you will need the Greek strings.
Irish sounds more contemporary
I like them both but i love Bouzouki. i have been to many concerts as young with many different gf as i was younger. Gf´s from Sweden most but also british and Hungarian. I never believed a woman would get orgasm by dansing and love the music of bouzouki. Only later on i understood it was Spiritual orgasm. You know that when you let your spirit open the door to Paradise. I dont know how to ell but what they told me is like washing their soul. Like it has no more bad thoughts or hate or likely inside them....You have to Party greek to feel it. As i saw now later women in Israel react to grek music As later on when i saw concerts from Israel even if it's with electric guitar i understood more what they mean and they look similar on face expressions :) wonderful to see happy people love my countries music. Its someting special only them who can open their spiti can feel it
I'm a Greek, but as a conventional 6 string guitarist I prefer the warmer sound of the Irish bouzouki. Irish is much better for playing chords but if you want to shred lead bouzouki the Greek one is the way to go.
I think that Irish sounds better playing chords while Greek sounds better playing individual notes
greek ! but it is so cool to see Irish had made it their own !!
The Bouzouki is Form Greece
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What was that opening tune?
Zorba?
@@matthaios9143 yes
I'm waiting for my Irish Bouzouki
Irish is warmer
I have the Hora Irish style,the compromise quality/price is good,but ,in my opinion,they should place better tuners, not very reliable!!
I like them both, but it's cheating you played different music on each one, I love Irish music)
Both versions of the bouzouki are very cool in their own right. The Greek bouzouki was introduced in the 1910s by the Turks, but it's so similar to the Ancient Greek pandura and Byzantine tamboura that it's natural to their music.
The Irish bouzouki is interesting since it sounds similar to the octave mandolin and pairs nicely with Celtic folk music, but still keeps a bit of that Mediterranean flair to it. The way the Irish adopted the bouzouki is very similar to how they adopted the tenor banjo from their Appalachian counterparts in the Southeastern United States.
The original bouzouki introduced by Greeks not by Turks..That's why called Greek bouzouki and not Turkish
From what I can see, the Irish bouzouki does not use an octave difference tuning for the top two pairs of strings (ie a thick and an thin string tuned to the same note) like the Greek tetrachordon. This is what I feel gives the Greek bouzouki some of the eastern kind of sound.
Me personally, I love both of them and I have a Greek bouzouki that I play on. I would love to to get hold of an irish one though, because it sounds great and try it on some Greek rembetika!
There is a set for Irish bouzouki with octave strings as well
I see... Does the bridge need to be different for the octave difference strings compared to that of the same-string? I ask because on my bouzouki, the groove for the bass string is bigger so that it can be accommodated. Anyway, very informative video and thank you for your reply.
The grooves in the bridge just help that the string will stay on it. it doesn't have to be fit like the nut. But still it is easy to find a bridge and to change it. So the sting just need to have a groove.
And vs lebanese bouzuk?
Greek bouzouki
Greek
Greek all day long.
the greek one
Irish
The greek one.......WHY? Because I am greek
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greek one has more dertia
Sooooo....when you pick...your hand should not touch the instrument. That is something guitar players do. It's cheating basically
Greek bouzouki sounds great for Greek or eastern music , and Irish for irish or Celtic music .If you use them on the contrary will not get the same performance
You mean southern music. Eastern music with bouzouki is a crime
@@christoskallias2115 You mean northern music. Southern music with bouzouki is a crime
Bouzouki is bouzouki and it's Greek.irish is something different.it is nice but it isn't bouzouki.
Greek better
Irish forever
irish
WELL,irish its just a bad copy of the greek bouzouki.dont want to offend the irish but come on u cant even compare them
I personally prefer Irish, in spite of being Greek
Greek Bozouki is real thing no1 ,,, rest is nothing , irish what ?
The greek bouzouki is original
greek is bouzuki men irish is one kind of copy
Greek