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  • @TheArmchairHistorian
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  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67
    @ihavetowait90daystochangem67 Před 2 lety +3656

    If only Hitler listened to the 13 year old HOI4 player who’s in Reddit 90% of the time, they would’ve won the war

    • @punchblmers192
      @punchblmers192 Před 2 lety +108

      I don't think so. Hitler will lost his war in one day for taking a advice from someone, especially those who spent most of time on Reddit, who's lacks in everything.

    • @diegode415
      @diegode415 Před 2 lety +255

      Don't worry, Steiner will turn the tide

    • @njt226
      @njt226 Před 2 lety

      @@punchblmers192 that's the joke..

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 Před 2 lety +36

      Madman or Hoi 4 player... tough choice.

    • @mettiq9240
      @mettiq9240 Před 2 lety +127

      @@alexzero3736 Hmmm, I'd choose the Hoi4 player so the Nazis could fall faster after realizing 14/4 divisions aren't meta after the irl update.

  • @FinalLugiaGuardian
    @FinalLugiaGuardian Před 2 lety +6156

    Wise lesson to learn from history is this.
    Just because someone is evil doesn't mean that they're dumb.

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 Před 2 lety +505

      Stalin is a good example I think, particularly AFTER World War II. He knew what he was doing, and actually thought up a really clever, nasty strategy for the Soviets beginning with the Korean War: Conquer By Regional Ally. Theoretically, this could have been used across much of the world, and honestly was to an extent in places despite Communist armies being smashed back to the 38th Parallel in Korea.

    • @myhonorwasloyalty
      @myhonorwasloyalty Před 2 lety +69

      @@thunderbird1921 stalin was evil

    • @charlestonianbuilder344
      @charlestonianbuilder344 Před 2 lety +355

      @@myhonorwasloyalty why point that out? He never said stalin wasnt evil

    • @potassium8759
      @potassium8759 Před 2 lety +27

      @@charlestonianbuilder344 I think they were just reacting to what thunderbird said

    • @My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am
      @My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am Před 2 lety +150

      @@myhonorwasloyalty
      @Thunderbird_1 literally said that stalin is a good example of a person who was evil and not stupid.

  • @kurtco.397
    @kurtco.397 Před 2 lety +279

    As a history nerd myself, I appreciate that you didn't take the classic "Germans were rigid in their command structure and no one without two stripes down their pants could make any decisions" cop out. I remember coming up against this in history courses in school as well as during my time in the military, and just sitting there baffled, recalling the opening stages of the war as sergeants through majors figured out what a blitzkrieg was on the fly, numerous commando raids, and other successes. While Hitler did clamp down and make more decisions as the war progressed, people often forget about the early stages of the war when (what we call in the US military) "commander's intent" was more important than phase lines and micromanagement, and I think you did this concept justice in this video. Thank you!

    • @fel_zharost
      @fel_zharost Před 5 měsíci

      Also German generals often put the responsibility for their failures on Hitler in their memoirs, my favourite being Guderian who tried to argument that brilliant manoeuvre on which Adolph insisted (resulting in Soviet southern front complete annihilation with 700k casualties) caused inability to capture Moscow. Iron Heinz “ignores” what happened to Napoleon in the same circumstances.

  • @rastas4766
    @rastas4766 Před rokem +129

    Here's a great quote that I think captures the issue of Hitler from Albert Speer's autobiography.
    "Amateurishness was one of Hitler's dominant traits. He had never learned a profession, and basically, had always remained an outsider in all fields of endeavor. Like many self-taught people, he had no idea what real specialized knowledge really meant. Without any sense of the complexities of any great task, he boldly assumed one function after another. Unburdened by standardized ideas, his quick intelligence sometimes conceived unusual measures, which a specialist would not have hit on at all. The victories of the early years of the war can literally be attributed to Hitler's ignorance of the rules of the game and his layman's delight in decision making. Since the opposing side was trained to apply rules which Hitler's self-taught autocratic mind did not know, and did not use, he achieved surprises. These audacities, coupled with military superiority were the bases of his early successes, but as soon as setbacks occurred, he suffered shipwreck. Like most untrained people. Then, his ignorance of the rules of the game was revealed as another kind of incompetence, then his defects were no longer strengths. The greater the failures became, the more obstinately his incurable amateurishness came to the fore; the tendency to wild decision had long been his forte, now it speeded his downfall." - Albert Speer

    • @ChuckNorris-gv8pv
      @ChuckNorris-gv8pv Před rokem +16

      He wouldn’t have said that to his face tho

    • @manipulatortrash
      @manipulatortrash Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@ChuckNorris-gv8pv you nor anyone else would either, because he'd kill you. What's your point?

    • @Feras_Plays
      @Feras_Plays Před 3 měsíci

      Nah probably not he'll fire you/imprison you
      Stalin would be the one to kill you if called him dumb lol ​@@manipulatortrash

    • @ocinprofession
      @ocinprofession Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@manipulatortrash WHAT KIND OF PUSSSYY/Y///?>???? KILLS SOMEONE INSTEAD OF FIGHTING THEMMW>????????????!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!;L:!>?/.E>?>?":?>?">!L":' hwne diwnd WHEN DISREPECTIED ??????!?!?!?!?@??!>!>!>>@>@#>>#$>???????

    • @gistar22
      @gistar22 Před 8 dny

      @@manipulatortrash His point was that Speer was a little B*tch

  • @CyberZayne
    @CyberZayne Před 2 lety +4178

    I expected you to address various myths people still cling on to and all, but I still ended up learning several new things about Germany during WW2. You guys really know how to do your research.

    • @OfficerRhine8511
      @OfficerRhine8511 Před 2 lety +42

      I didn’t learn anything I remember many things from reading about it so yeah but still they do much better work than some creators A LOT better

    • @birdworldist
      @birdworldist Před 2 lety +90

      Thanks! - The Armchair Historian Team Researcher

    • @cwin675
      @cwin675 Před 2 lety +2

      @@birdworldist j

    • @KurtGodel-po3zl
      @KurtGodel-po3zl Před 2 lety +18

      @@OfficerRhine8511 Damn that's super cool man

    • @daveJDB
      @daveJDB Před 2 lety +9

      @@OfficerRhine8511 Okay

  • @scorpionfxe2042
    @scorpionfxe2042 Před 2 lety +3964

    Its good to see a balanced, and more nuanced view on the German Leadership in WW2 rather than the whole "Hitler should have listened to his generals" and borderline "Asiatic Hordes" myths. As usual, great work from the Armchair Historian.

    • @bradanklauer8926
      @bradanklauer8926 Před 2 lety +116

      Exactly. Had Hitler listened to his generals like Rundstedt, Halder, Kludge, and Brauchitsch all the time, the War in Europe likely would have been over in 1940.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před 2 lety +95

      TIK has done a fantastic job debunking so many myths about German leadership during WW2.
      So much of it was written immediately post war by German Generals more interested in saving face than telling the truth.

    • @dr.vonslifeinvesting6485
      @dr.vonslifeinvesting6485 Před 2 lety +98

      @@bradanklauer8926 when I was a teenager I read a book about Rommel. He took a lot of foolish risks and often was saved by some very good people underneath him.

    • @willbentley8856
      @willbentley8856 Před 2 lety +24

      @@ieuanhunt552 TIK is a hack who makes claims to other historians bordering on libel. He is unable to take opposing opinions. This account is good, though.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před 2 lety +16

      @@willbentley8856 Give an example

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie Před 2 lety +410

    This actually reminds me of articles I read about the fall of Sears and Kmart (weird comparison I know) as the stores started facing hard times during the late 2000s a new CEO, Eddie Lampert, came to power at Sears. He strongly believed that competition was good and the cooperation of any kind would not succeed- even among departments in the same stores. This pit employees against each other to win the good graces of corporate and fight for the dwindling amount of money available to them. Lampert's philosophy was a catastrophic failure, and while there are still a few stores left hanging on the company is a relic of a different time by this point. Make a note future leaders of the world: cooperation is key when building a team. Stoking the fire of competition among your own employees is asking for failure.

    • @sprite9897
      @sprite9897 Před 2 lety +21

      Enron did something similar going as far as to terminate the lowest preforming sales teams in some branches regardless of overall performance as a whole. If you happened to sell the least you were cut even if you improved your overall performance for the year.

    • @maxhouse2409
      @maxhouse2409 Před 2 lety

      Hitler stoked competition instead of cooperation among the industrialists, leading to non-standardization of military equipment which resulted in operational inefficiencies.

    • @wdcain1
      @wdcain1 Před rokem +5

      So that's what happened to Sears. I loved my local branch and it did very well so I was shocked when it went belly up.

    • @theempirestrikesback
      @theempirestrikesback Před rokem +8

      The last time I went to Sears was to a large one in NW Chicago a few months before it closed. By that time there was only one employee visible in a 5K square foot store with piles of merchandise on the floor in some departments.
      The big change for Sears was back in the 80s/90s. 2 things, selling off Craftsman tools and destroying the Kenmore appliance brand.
      Craftsman tools were high quality. To the point where I bought a 1960s plug in electric drill at a antique mall because of how reliable they were. They all also had lifetime warranties where if the tool broke, no questions asked you could bring it back to the store to trade for the new model. The tool brand was a high quality option that was affordable for the middle income family crowd.
      The Kenmore appliance brand was not the best of the best but it was reliable and fairly priced.
      The combination of those brands lead to many homes having thousands of dollars of Craftsman tools and all Kenmore appliances (again more thousands of dollars).
      Those two brands maintained huge foot traffic in the late 20th century that supported their sales of homegoods, clothing and outdoor products.
      The loss of the Craftsman and Kenmore brands' standing took away the main reason their customers went there. This loss of foot traffic destroyed their sales as they lost the majority of their sales in secondary products in concert.

    • @DieNextInLINE
      @DieNextInLINE Před rokem +7

      @@sprite9897 It was a ranking system. Essentially, if you hit rank 5, you were immediately fired. The problem was there was a minimum quota of 5's. Meaning even if everyone was doing incredibly well, the bottom fifth were culled continually leading to a cyclical exploitative hiring system.

  • @boejiden5851
    @boejiden5851 Před 2 lety +114

    I like how the art style has become more and more polished. Even down to the font choice, looks like something you'd see out of a comic or a game

  • @TechieWidget
    @TechieWidget Před 2 lety +630

    You should do one about Imperial Japan's leadership, because it is one heck of a mess.

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 Před 2 lety +8

      Which one the Northern planners, the Kwantung, the Souther planners or the Leftist Cliche? because at that point they were even independently acting from each other

    • @ziangli4836
      @ziangli4836 Před 2 lety +72

      @BloxyHD Imagin recreating the entirety of the armed forces within branches of the armed forces because of an internal feud 40 years in the making, the fact the Japanese military got that far with a disjointed structure like that is a miracle

    • @romaliop
      @romaliop Před 2 lety +10

      @@ziangli4836 In a certain way, it made sense though. Or at the very least wasn't a major hindrance. The army and navy operated more or less independently of each other in separate theaters of the war, after all. If only the political leadership was independent of the two sides and above the feud, it could've maybe remained as more or less a healthy rivalry between the branches.

    • @ziangli4836
      @ziangli4836 Před 2 lety +22

      @@romaliop I agree that they mostly that the army fought two different wars, but when you have stories of IJN deserting the IJA on abandoned islands leaving then to fend off the Americans, it does paint a picture of a disaster

    • @romaliop
      @romaliop Před 2 lety +1

      @@ziangli4836 Yeah, I just mean that it would never have gotten that far if they both weren't so successful in the early stages of the war.

  • @novat9731
    @novat9731 Před 2 lety +1129

    18:15
    The Luftwaffes ability to supply a pocket of troops was proven possible earlier in the year in the Demyansk pocket. Where a force approximately 1/3 the size was successfully supplied by the air. In addition 30 000 troops were flown in, and 36 000 wounded were flown out of the pocket. The Demyansk pocket was sufficiently supplied, to the point where the units inside could conduct offensive operations aiding the units outside the pocket in breaking them out. It was reasoned that, while the significantly larger pocket in Stalingrad could not be supplied to full strength. The units within could at least be supplied, to subsistence levels, until relief arrived. Adequate numbers of airplanes were re-assigned to the Stalingrad area, but we all know what happened.
    - USSR air force were already strong in the area, expecting the encirclement to take place.
    - Poor weather in the December to February months completely halted any flights on several days. Although the Demyansk battle took place from February to May, in a more northern location, so weather was probably poor there as well.
    - The distance between the new German front lines, and the Stalingrad pocket was longer than in the Demyansk pocket.
    - Stalingrad was much further away from the supply base, than Demyansk was. Supply was an issue even before the city was encircled.
    It was a far fetched plan for sure, but not completely out of the realm of possibilities.

    • @robberbarron7602
      @robberbarron7602 Před 2 lety +106

      To add on to this
      - By early December (1942), Luftflotte 4’s transport forces compromised approximately 550 aircraft, each of which could carry between one and two tons of supplies per sortie; these aircraft were theoretically more than sufficient to deliver the needed volume of supplies.
      The main causes of the failure of the Stalingrad airlift:
      - Due to the decline in serviceability of Luftflotte 4’s transport planes caused by the inadequate logistical lines on the ground (spare parts, etc), by the time 6th army was encircled only 30 and 40 percent of Luftflotte 4’s transport aircraft were operational.
      - Luftflotte 4’s absence of guidance of a dedicated headquarters staff with experienced specialists, the Stalingrad airlift, unlike that at Demyansk was unable to overcome the various problems it faced in time to save the 6th Army.

    • @arjunmadan318
      @arjunmadan318 Před 2 lety +45

      Also the fact that after Rokossovsky delivered the coup de Gras at stalingrad the 6 th army was enmeshed in a solid encirclement; more deeper into committed soviet forces with sufficient armour inreserves than the demyansk pocket .
      Also the fact that by this time incoming air approaches to stalingrad were lined by heavy soviet flak.
      It should be added that by this late in the war the luftwaffe's 'punch' delivered by its concentration of airpower was diluted on the massive space on the eastern front.
      There was also, simultaneously, a massive threat building up on the German forces now trapped in the Caucasus after their defeat at stalingrad. Significant air support had to be diverted there, along with transports. The Caucasus army barely got out.

    • @robberbarron7602
      @robberbarron7602 Před 2 lety +32

      @@arjunmadan318 Yes, your reply is spot on.
      - The main reason why the Germans barely escaped from the Caucuses was because the transport units of Luftflotte 4 operated from better-equipped permanent airfields in the Crimea, which were also bolstered with much of the late-arriving extra equipment and personnel that the newly reconstructed Leadership, headed by Erhard Milch, had requisitioned for the Stalingrad airlift.
      - Under these improved conditions, ‘Lufttransporteinsatz Krim’ (Air Transport Mission Crimea), managed to sustain an operational rate of 60 percent to 75 percent among its transports during the 50 days in which it operated. This allowed it to deliver an average of 182 tons of supplies daily to the Kuban bridgehead, nearly twice the average rate achieved at Stalingrad, despite employing a much smaller force of about 180 planes

    • @leonpaelinck
      @leonpaelinck Před 2 lety +5

      Actually the flying distance was shorter in Stalingrad

    • @TheArmchairHistorian
      @TheArmchairHistorian  Před 2 lety +224

      Very insightful comment :)

  • @Noobmaster-ch7hr
    @Noobmaster-ch7hr Před 2 lety +49

    The thumbnail is so perfectly designed depicting the genius side on the western front , and the insane side on the eastern . And the animations ...... what to say about them 🔥💯.

  • @tmanthemost1157
    @tmanthemost1157 Před 2 lety +22

    If only hitler was accepted into art school who knows how different things would’ve been

    • @Castragroup
      @Castragroup Před 2 lety +2

      but then we woudnt have had a real life thanos

    • @pyromania1018
      @pyromania1018 Před 2 lety

      He was a mediocre artist. If he'd bothered to finish his earlier schooling so he could get a job in case he wasn't accepted, he could have had a fallback option. But he was a lazy ass thanks to his mother's incessant spoiling, to the point of legitimately believing he deserved to get everything simply handed to him just because he existed. He was too lazy and full of himself to work for a living, too reckless to bother with any fallback options, and too egotistical to accept that he wasn't all that great.

    • @migelangeldejesusquinterog4584
      @migelangeldejesusquinterog4584 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@Castragroup
      Amir tumer (tamerlane) and Temujin (Ghingis Khan)?

    • @Castragroup
      @Castragroup Před 2 lety +1

      @@migelangeldejesusquinterog4584 weaklings

  • @Justin-cw7zf
    @Justin-cw7zf Před 2 lety +407

    Hitler during the early war: haha strategic thought out tactics win the day
    Hitler during the mid-late war: no retreat even if you all get captured or die

    • @innosam123
      @innosam123 Před 2 lety +74

      Hitler DID allow retreats.
      Not all the time (like Budapest), which were declared ‘fortress cities’, but other examples, like the Courland and East Prussia Pockets, *were* actually evacuated (partially.)
      Also, the fact that the Germans did not retreat from the Atlantic French ports probably bought the Germans a couple months on the Western Front by making Allied resupply from the sea difficult, forcing them to slow down.

    • @cosmicdistortion4350
      @cosmicdistortion4350 Před 2 lety +6

      @Johann von Floydmann lmaooo i feel that haha

    • @HenriqueRJchiki
      @HenriqueRJchiki Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds a lot like a certain handsome guy with a smoke pipe in the east

    • @diegode415
      @diegode415 Před 2 lety +16

      Don't worry, Steiner and his 10,000 soldiers and 25 tanks he found in some dude's garage will turn the tide

    • @highjumpstudios2384
      @highjumpstudios2384 Před 2 lety +2

      @@innosam123 true, but the attempted evacuation of Eastern Prussia was held off until it was far too late. Resulting in thousands of deaths at sea as Soviet subs fell upon unprotected single transports filled with mostly civilians.

  • @memecliparchives2254
    @memecliparchives2254 Před 2 lety +539

    Could be portrayed as insanely genius initially only to turn borderline insanity.

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Před 2 lety +37

      That's what they get for abusing meth and cocaine.

    • @davedennison7386
      @davedennison7386 Před 2 lety +17

      @@ceu160193
      Don't forget the morphine....and the barbiturates...

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Před 2 lety +7

      @@davedennison7386 Morphine was used mainly after wounds(well, until D-IX drug was implemented in German forces), but meth and cocaine were widely used both by soldiers and by civilian population. Civilians used it in form of chocolate infused with meth, soldiers in form of pills.
      And it worked, since main constraint of Blitzkrieg, after solving mobility issue, became human endurance - soldiers physically couldn't remain alert and awake on their own to drive tanks or pilot planes for hours and hours at once.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Před 2 lety +61

      A gambler who won is still a gambler.
      It was a good bet, with good odds, but still a bet.

    • @unusede8437
      @unusede8437 Před 2 lety +1

      Perfectly said

  • @BlissToby
    @BlissToby Před 2 lety +18

    7:29 this is an absolute gem, you guys are so good at what you do and even have that unique feel for meme culture and use it well but not too often and I'm just stunned.

  • @comradesocalistfromaustralia

    2022 kids: im depressed
    1945 hitler: *yes*

  • @schatzkammerein
    @schatzkammerein Před 2 lety +1579

    The art, narrative, and everything just keeps getting better and better! Looking forward to more :D

  • @animeyahallo3887
    @animeyahallo3887 Před 2 lety +430

    "The farther away from slaughter, the more optimism replaces reality. Reality is often non-existent at the highest decision-making levels. This is especially true when you are losing a war."
    - Gotou (Patlabor 2)

    • @G.A.C_Preserve
      @G.A.C_Preserve Před 2 lety

      Wow

    • @apalahartisebuahnama7684
      @apalahartisebuahnama7684 Před 2 lety +2

      The Japanese really learn something from their futile war against US eh?

    • @professionaldisappointment1654
      @professionaldisappointment1654 Před 2 lety

      Razor Gotou strikes again

    • @JayMaverick
      @JayMaverick Před 2 lety +4

      True then, true today.

    • @maxhouse2409
      @maxhouse2409 Před 2 lety +2

      @@apalahartisebuahnama7684 They assimilated some of USA culture, such as baseball. They also absorbed Deming's 14 points of management. People stopped calling their exports 'jap crap' decades ago.

  • @DanielGarcia-kz2wr
    @DanielGarcia-kz2wr Před 2 lety +10

    Wow! Kudos to all the team, exceptional animation and soundtrack quality, i've been following the channel for a couple years, and this keeps getting better!!!!!!

  • @gp-network4370
    @gp-network4370 Před 2 lety +52

    I would love to see a video also talking about the italian leadership during WW2, I feel like there is a lot to uncover regarding that part of history!

  • @areasevenpro
    @areasevenpro Před 2 lety +1662

    This video enraged Adolf's father, who punished him severely.

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 Před 2 lety +1545

    You should do the Soviet leadership next. Especially given Stalin shared many traits with a certain Austrian painter

    • @APersonOnYouTubeX
      @APersonOnYouTubeX Před 2 lety +74

      Austrian Painter…Oskar Kokoschka?

    • @lorenzograham7854
      @lorenzograham7854 Před 2 lety +4

      Stalin isn’t even important for ww2

    • @main8824
      @main8824 Před 2 lety +195

      @@lorenzograham7854 lol what

    • @raysteigerwalt5272
      @raysteigerwalt5272 Před 2 lety +81

      @@lorenzograham7854 lol who was it then?

    • @lorenzograham7854
      @lorenzograham7854 Před 2 lety +8

      @@raysteigerwalt5272 Soviet milatiry generals like Alexanxder yegrov Stalin was just leader of ussr not really into the military stuff

  • @mellowyellowjello1661
    @mellowyellowjello1661 Před rokem +3

    WOW The amount of pure detail that you are able to put into your videos are amazing!

  • @simonreij6668
    @simonreij6668 Před 2 lety +1

    i have appreciated all of your videos but this one... it resonates so perfectly, like i could almost extrapolate the entire war from it, thank you so much. glad you got your smoke graphic realigned with the pipe, ty sir

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History Před 2 lety +880

    The Armchair Historian, the European history CZcamsr we all want to be! What incredible content and what incredible timing!

    • @colleen9026
      @colleen9026 Před 2 lety +5

      @Lotus I am going to miss it

    • @aluminium5738
      @aluminium5738 Před 2 lety +3

      @Lotus I am going to miss it

    • @itsblitz4437
      @itsblitz4437 Před 2 lety +4

      I like to see Armchair Historian try talking more about topics involving the Pacific War.

    • @shakenbakejake25
      @shakenbakejake25 Před 2 lety

      @MiniMania Will probably have to wait till the conflict is completely over, and then some. I really can't wait to see his coverage of the war, and then his usual coverage of "the losing side's perspective".

    • @ParseeAikoku
      @ParseeAikoku Před 2 lety +1

      @Lotus no one care

  • @CKC_Productions
    @CKC_Productions Před 2 lety +70

    Adolf Hitler: “If Steiner attacks everything will be fine…”

    • @diegode415
      @diegode415 Před 2 lety +4

      Mans got like 10,000 men, how can the allies stand up to such a ferocious force!

    • @Disorder2312
      @Disorder2312 Před 2 lety

      I absolutely don't get these jokes. Can you explain so i wouldn't question it ever again.

    • @CKC_Productions
      @CKC_Productions Před 2 lety +3

      @@Disorder2312 It’s a meme from the movie “Der Untergang.”

    • @Disorder2312
      @Disorder2312 Před 2 lety

      @@CKC_Productions Yeah, and what's the point of it? Is it too long to explain? Because i don't even watch movies.

    • @diegode415
      @diegode415 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Disorder2312 in 1944-1945 hitler went full psycho mode and had one of his generals assemble a force that would hopefully defeat the soviets and help the Wehrmacht get everything together

  • @danielriquelme5762
    @danielriquelme5762 Před 2 lety +4

    What an amazing animation! Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention. Keep it up! Can’t wait for the next video.

  • @Anvilcjl
    @Anvilcjl Před 2 lety +8

    The artwork and animation is far superior to that of other history and info graphics channels. I think a serious subject like this deserves class adult looking illustrations like this. Well done!

  • @krishm16
    @krishm16 Před 2 lety +374

    Bureaucratic politics is an incredibly under-estimated and unknown part of the well oil machined that is the government, military or any other institution. Very interesting and valuable insight. Thanks.

  • @Klishar122
    @Klishar122 Před 2 lety +668

    I’d like to request two more videos of this nature:
    One for the Soviets.
    The other for the Japanese.

    • @NewtypeCommander
      @NewtypeCommander Před 2 lety +57

      The Imperial Japanese forces were pretty much in a similar situation as the Third Reich. The armed forces were full of infighting factions more concerned about how their forces were going to win the war; this is particularly seen in differences in tactics between the IJA and the IJN.

    • @pecadodeorgullo5963
      @pecadodeorgullo5963 Před 2 lety +7

      @@NewtypeCommander yeah, I think Kings and generals mentions this in his pacific war series when both had different visions in the war.

    • @ruouy3453
      @ruouy3453 Před 2 lety +27

      @@NewtypeCommander I think infighting between the IJN and IJA was much much worse than in the German High Command

    • @temcabbage1713
      @temcabbage1713 Před 2 lety +23

      @@ruouy3453 It was definitely much worse. Germany may have had infighting but none of them were petty enough to have smaller branches underneath them. It was so bad that the IJN had its own Army and vice versa.

    • @abrahamhashimi4747
      @abrahamhashimi4747 Před 2 lety

      What about Italy?

  • @Joze1090
    @Joze1090 Před 2 lety +3

    This has to be your best animated video to date! Give your animators a raise!!!

  • @FrankyBallou
    @FrankyBallou Před rokem +4

    New to the channel, I’m so glad I found this!! All videos are very well done!! Great job!!!

  • @Red__Law
    @Red__Law Před 2 lety +94

    Love the attention to detail in your videos. Might have gone unnoticed by some, but at 5:37 you included a rare recording of Hitler's normal speaking voice.

  • @hi_imken8860
    @hi_imken8860 Před 2 lety +144

    The animation is just too good, literally urging all of my friends to watch you.

  • @Amazonforest11
    @Amazonforest11 Před 2 lety +4

    I really love your videos. Your presentation skills, detailed explanation, deep knowledge and attention to detail are really very impressive. Please keep making such beautiful and informational videos. They are enriching, entertaing and knowledgeable at the same time. CZcams needs more people like you 👍

  • @jedaiahg.1136
    @jedaiahg.1136 Před 2 lety

    Probably your best video ever and your other videos are already incredibly good.
    Really really liked it.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Před 2 lety +20

    Well I mean Steiner’s attack will turn things around! Right?

    • @Resistance_edits
      @Resistance_edits Před 2 lety +1

      H*tler really does crack me up. It's nothing short of amazing how little a man can care for his soldiers.
      I obviously don't support Nazism but just saying...He loved talking about how much he "loved" the German people yet he sent so many to die for a worthless cause.

  • @nicholasconder4703
    @nicholasconder4703 Před 2 lety +187

    Perhaps the greatest issue the Wehrmacht had throughout the war was poor logistics. They lacked the trucks and fuel to move supplies to the frontline troops, and it was this inability to resupply and reinforce their units that eventually doomed them.

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 2 lety +27

      Many tanks were abandoned because of no fuel

    • @JustJimmyGD
      @JustJimmyGD Před 2 lety +9

      *HOI4 flashbacks*

    • @dankuser8303
      @dankuser8303 Před 2 lety +5

      General fucking motors

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 Před 2 lety +1

      @@civilengineer3349 That is actually a myth, it is true who many places were neglected, but the Germans have as many support vehicles as tanks for the Invasion of the USSR, the ones who suffered it hardly were the Soviets, during the early stages of the war, they had 10,000 tanks, but they had no support vehicles and many had to be abandoned without even engaging

    • @leto.o5759
      @leto.o5759 Před 2 lety +7

      @@omarbradley6807 this is a terrible comment, the Soviets also had terrible logistics during the early war that statistic makes no difference to the original commentators claims

  • @Wanderer628
    @Wanderer628 Před 2 lety +37

    Wheraboos: If Hitler had just listened to this generals they would have won the war!
    Wheraboos after watching this video: If Hitler and his generals had just listened to their junior officers they would have won the war!

    • @lordnatu
      @lordnatu Před 2 lety +1

      if the generals had listened to hitler and if hitler had listened to the generals and if they joined the allies and if they didn't start the war and if they weren't fascist they could have won the war

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 Před 14 dny

      Wehraboos: Hitler, listen to your generals, they know their stuff!
      Hitler: Hmm, you're right, I probably should.
      Rundstedt: Halt! We need to rest our troops and consolidate our position, there's no need to hurry to clear out Dunkirk.
      Guderian: ...
      OKW: ...
      Hitler: Rundstedt, you're right, you know this stuff better than me, we do like you suggest!
      Wehraboos: No, not like that!

  • @sgt.brexit3850
    @sgt.brexit3850 Před 2 lety

    10:55 to 11:20's animation was so satisfying tf. Every video the animation get's better and the soundtrack this episode was awesome

  • @PakBallandSami
    @PakBallandSami Před 2 lety +71

    the Western Allies, fearful of any move that might feed the suspicions of Stalin, refused to consider the German proposal, insisting that a German surrender be signed with all the Allies at the same time. Early in the morning of May 7, 1945, a German delegation came to U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower’s headquarters in Rheims, France, and at 2:41 am signed the surrender documents. Despite the fact that a Soviet major general signed for the Soviet Union, Stalin insisted that a second surrender ceremony take place in Soviet-occupied Berlin. This second surrender was signed in a Berlin suburb the following afternoon.

  • @talleywa5772
    @talleywa5772 Před 2 lety +18

    Genius when it works. Insanity when it doesn't.

  • @Gszarco94
    @Gszarco94 Před 2 lety +1

    Well done, guys!! This is pure quality.

  • @brothercheerio
    @brothercheerio Před 2 lety +1

    I like that you're able to give a good and honest analysis without letting your emotions or feelings get in the way. Great video!

  • @Maliq28
    @Maliq28 Před 2 lety +14

    therapist: two-face hitler isn't real, he cant hurt you.
    two-face hitler:

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 Před 2 lety +1

      Is who this is the problem with Hitler everyone today fail to see, Hitler could be very different at any given moment, with his image saying things acording to what the people wanted to hear changing as they also changed, but with a complex personality of hate towards other peoples, who he of course was cautious to mention, but could make a suden outburst and purge the army,

  • @grizzle273463
    @grizzle273463 Před 2 lety +6

    Your videos have just countless subtle details in the animation. Tremendous work and superbly done.

  • @VictorSanchez-eu7sk
    @VictorSanchez-eu7sk Před 2 lety

    Your animation just keeps getting better and better

  • @boxingking6197
    @boxingking6197 Před 2 lety

    Wow this is an upgrade?!
    What a splendid piece of video animation.
    The best narrated animation ive ever seen so far. Thank you @armchairhistorian.

  • @polygonalfortress
    @polygonalfortress Před 2 lety +3

    I love the fact you guys add references in your videos, adds alot of charm to it.

  • @CJ_1406
    @CJ_1406 Před 2 lety +12

    German Commander: Hey, maybe we should retreat.
    Small angry man with a silly moustache: No, no. You stay.
    *shoots plunger gun at mirror which hit him at the foot*

    • @igorbednarski8048
      @igorbednarski8048 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, everyone knows that wars are won by retreating. If only Hitler retreated all the way to Berlin, I'm sure the Soviets would surrender.

  • @deangerst3893
    @deangerst3893 Před 2 lety +2

    extremely interesting and unique perspective, as always

  • @blakephillipe496
    @blakephillipe496 Před rokem

    Bro the piano solo at the end. It's a little detail but it wraps up the video perfectly and adds emotional weight to an already heartbreaking conflict.

  • @Justin-cw7zf
    @Justin-cw7zf Před 2 lety +31

    We might need to make a Russian version of this soon

  • @ekparatrooperfilms9668
    @ekparatrooperfilms9668 Před 2 lety +14

    Title: Genius or Insanity
    Historians: Yes

  • @StarProcyon
    @StarProcyon Před 2 lety +2

    The animation was amazing in this one.

  • @thomasd6652
    @thomasd6652 Před 2 lety

    A fantastic video! I really liked the animations on this one.

  • @silesia93
    @silesia93 Před 2 lety +4

    Wow! Every time I watch one of your videos, they keep improving! I thought it's not possible since they already seem perfect.

  • @itsblitz4437
    @itsblitz4437 Před 2 lety +20

    Wow Griffin your art and animations teams has really up the ante in this video. Well done and massive props to them for their dedicated hard work.

  • @gagereid3307
    @gagereid3307 Před 2 lety +6

    Would love an episode on the Bosnian war! There doesn’t seem to be much in depth coverage of that conflict. Love the vids thanks!

  • @franklinclinton4539
    @franklinclinton4539 Před 2 lety +7

    So the short answer is:
    Germany in WW2 was 2 good players co-operating Germany without being in a voice chat in HOI4. Then both of them rage quit and were replaced by idiots.

  • @mr.neworld2031
    @mr.neworld2031 Před 2 lety +5

    This animations are very creative, well done

  • @mljesus7743
    @mljesus7743 Před 2 lety +13

    Ok, now THIS is the kinda gold I expect from your channel Griffith!!!
    This video was absolutely phenomenal!
    I adore it when you shake off the tunnel vision of a strictly linear timeline or a specific event to discuss a broader more overarching topic, it flows far better and gets the concepts across in a much more decisive and compelling way
    Like I said, GOLD!
    And need I even state the amazing work of your art department? Let’s just say they bring your topics to life.
    You and your team ought be commended for this project. Also it’s great to see the source list description.
    Keep up the fantastic work! 🤩

  • @djquinn11
    @djquinn11 Před 10 měsíci

    Griffin does a great job on these videos. Excellent work, look forward to watching more.

  • @cmikefitzy3627
    @cmikefitzy3627 Před 2 lety

    Great vid, much more engaging than some of your other videos

  • @azj_
    @azj_ Před 2 lety +15

    This documentary has a memes and movie's reference:
    1. Normie CHAD (memes) 11:44
    2. The Shining (movie) 17:53
    3. This is fine (memes) 18:05

    • @scottbeckes6319
      @scottbeckes6319 Před 2 lety +3

      15:40 moustached Nazi boxing references Pat Roach’s character in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

  • @bravomike4734
    @bravomike4734 Před 2 lety +7

    Love how you showed the non rotated swastik for its true intended meaning in this vid, peace and prosperity or in this case peace between officers of the military branches.

  • @turnip9367
    @turnip9367 Před rokem +15

    I think one of the biggest misconceptions people have about history is that just because a leader loses a war or battle doesn't mean they were dumb. They were obviously skilled enough to rise to power and consolidate their authority. Despite being portrayed as a paranoid schizophrenic, Hitler was still a skilled orator that was able to mass indoctrinate a country into his cult.
    Sometimes they're undermined by their own hubris. Other times it's because of external factors entirely out of their control. Hitstory is never that simplistic.

  • @joesomebody3365
    @joesomebody3365 Před 2 lety +7

    Never heard about the "OKW" before this video, lots of interesting information; seems like there are so many variables that it's difficult to determine exactly what combination of things would have changed the outcome one way or another.

  • @sirmisc5780
    @sirmisc5780 Před 2 lety +6

    But we can’t forget that there are 20 million penguins in Antarctica and only around 1,000 humans there. That means if the penguins go to war, each man will have to fight 20,000 penguins.

  • @peterkropotkin6224
    @peterkropotkin6224 Před 2 lety +17

    What remarkable timing given recent events.

    • @anasevi9456
      @anasevi9456 Před 2 lety +1

      only if your a headline reading trog, what's happening now is russia and nato missing the cold war too much. they just can't stop f'ing with eachother out of spite.

  • @norwegianguy4606
    @norwegianguy4606 Před 2 lety

    your animations are getting better and better

  • @LazyFloridian
    @LazyFloridian Před 2 lety

    Possibly your best video yet, well done!

  • @varemaruahe6311
    @varemaruahe6311 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for the lessons I am also a fellow historian and it is very fun watching your videos

  • @TDenterpriser
    @TDenterpriser Před 2 lety +25

    A video on the leadership of the Imperial Japanese Military would be very interesting

  • @hakku9344
    @hakku9344 Před 2 lety +52

    "they have taken more ground in a day than german empire could in 3 years"
    how goddamn badass that must be

    • @TragicTester034
      @TragicTester034 Před 2 lety +5

      At least the Kaiserreich could hold the ground it conquered until the bitter end

    • @razzledazzle8593
      @razzledazzle8593 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TragicTester034 *cuts to Russian general Alexander Samsonov shooting himself after Tannenberg*

    • @diegode415
      @diegode415 Před 2 lety

      And also lost it just as quickly

    • @safi6749
      @safi6749 Před 2 lety

      Rommel was a genius

    • @BisexualPlagueDoctor
      @BisexualPlagueDoctor Před 2 lety

      Cool or not, there still nazis

  • @liesannevanede
    @liesannevanede Před 2 lety +3

    Love your vids and the artwork 😍
    I have a few ideas for future episodea (if you havent talked about then yet) the Burma railway. Or the Christmas Truce

  • @beneficialuncle4136
    @beneficialuncle4136 Před 2 lety +16

    Excellent work over at Armchair History! I would love to see more Great War content though; I feel like that is a topic that would be so cool to watch if it was covered extensively on this channel. Great work nonetheless!

  • @greenbeepm
    @greenbeepm Před 2 lety +165

    I feel the cracks in Germany was already there, but it was only noticeable when luck ran out, and how Germany handled severe failure in ww2. Unlike the allies, which arguably suffered more then Germany did in the 1st year of ww2, Militarily of course.

    • @naso5179
      @naso5179 Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah, so much luck that france got mowed, poland and other countries got destroyed. allied apologists are really dimwits.

    • @scottanno8861
      @scottanno8861 Před 2 lety +24

      @@naso5179 when the world is against you, was it really luck that ran out? Or simply being overrun with bodies?

    • @naso5179
      @naso5179 Před 2 lety

      @@scottanno8861 i was being sarcastic.

    • @mikatu
      @mikatu Před 2 lety +13

      Ridiculous, Germany did everything due to having a great army, not due to luck.
      They even made mistakes that could have costed them the war, like not liquidating the british in Dunkirk or trying to go for Stalingrad for status purposes instead of going to the oil fields directly or to focus on one city at the time.

    • @naso5179
      @naso5179 Před 2 lety

      @@mikatu yea, and i made a sarcastic reply to this comment.

  • @jaimejaime2930
    @jaimejaime2930 Před 2 lety

    Great work griffin and team keep it going!

  • @jayeshmali9240
    @jayeshmali9240 Před 2 lety

    Art,animation team and everything is next level !!!

  • @pedro8143
    @pedro8143 Před 2 lety +6

    "It's remarkable how often those two traits overlap"
    -Jack Sparrow

  • @Gutbomber
    @Gutbomber Před 2 lety +51

    Perfect video. German soldiers and their fighting spirit is quite fascinating.

    • @juliusbeutler7090
      @juliusbeutler7090 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, tell that to my grandfather who was sent to russia at 17. I bet he had one hell of a fighting spirit. He told me this story about other german soldiers getting in an ambush an trying to rat out their comrades while dying. Great fighting spirit, truly. Can people please stop glorifying the Wehrmacht? I could ask my grandfather for more fighting spirit stories if you wanted to, he's 98 now. Maybe one of the last people to tell this generation that there's absolutely nothing cool or stoic about war

  • @wizzzer1337
    @wizzzer1337 Před 2 lety

    how very... timely. amazing work as always

  • @staticaleel5068
    @staticaleel5068 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the art but… omg that shining reference at 17:53 just cracked me up! It’s so hilariously fitting.

  • @aris9560
    @aris9560 Před 2 lety +4

    amazing work. Next to this i highly recommend watching "Hitler's Circle of Evil" to understand how he incentivised fierce competition between his top guys. Also it shows that despite Hitler being a person who doesn't seek consensus to distribute orders, he was quite influenced by the people around him even adopting some of his key ideas form others.

  • @JayMaverick
    @JayMaverick Před 2 lety +9

    Great narration, wonderful animation. I wish all history was taught like this.

  • @Jupiterssilhouette
    @Jupiterssilhouette Před 2 lety

    Great video! Thank you

  • @cruzaider5339
    @cruzaider5339 Před 2 lety

    Nice to see the art getting better

  • @rileychristensen3824
    @rileychristensen3824 Před 2 lety +5

    The thumbnail looks like if Hitler was a batman villain.

  • @iwantdeweyforugandans8372

    I can already predict a sequel to this video! Cant wait!

  • @TheVoiceOfReason93
    @TheVoiceOfReason93 Před 2 lety +16

    I once took the position that they are rational as any other Human leadership, but are operating within the frame of their irrational ideology. It would explain why some decisions which gave them the upper hand seem genius and the rest which cost them the war are insane.

  • @matrix_legion8798
    @matrix_legion8798 Před 2 lety +21

    Please do a video about the Byzantine or Ottoman Empire but other than that your content gets greater and greater

    • @Gutbomber
      @Gutbomber Před 2 lety +1

      Byzantine video would be cool.

  • @sara-od2tc
    @sara-od2tc Před 2 lety +1

    Your video is amazing, the animated style really helps to unterstand the informations.I like how you show the problems that Nazis had within their own rows. In German history class we most concentrated us on the things how Hitler got his power,the problem with the Weimarer Republic and the emergency decree,Hitlers book that he wrote in Jail,the KZ and the end of war and what happened after.We never talked much about the problems in their own rows or the battles.

  • @nobbynobbs8182
    @nobbynobbs8182 Před 2 lety

    These animations just getting better and better

  • @J4R0D
    @J4R0D Před 2 lety +5

    The best part is Hitler not believing his strategies worked in the early part of the war. The video of him walking around in Paris is like "how did I make it this far?"

  • @jvjd
    @jvjd Před 2 lety +102

    He is a genius at being a leader but his end goals and objectives were insane

    • @chico9805
      @chico9805 Před 2 lety +43

      No. He was a good boss, but not a good leader. A leader understands the importance of teamwork and humility - Hitler did not.

    • @finndaniels9139
      @finndaniels9139 Před 2 lety +25

      Terrible leader really. It's like they say wartime leaders don't always make good peacetime leaders - good politicians don't always make good leaders either. He could talk a good talk and rouse a crowd, but his internal domestic politics were a mess, and his wartime leadership was somehow worse

    • @londoncrow500
      @londoncrow500 Před 2 lety +1

      Bad leader, But good strategist. Before getting stalinsane that is.

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 Před 2 lety +11

      @@londoncrow500 was he a good strategist? Or did he just surround himself with good strategists? An average man standing on the shoulders of actual geniuses.

    • @londoncrow500
      @londoncrow500 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Saurophaganax1931 he is smart enough to know how to make smart people work for him

  • @jimwolaver9375
    @jimwolaver9375 Před 2 lety

    WOW! Excellent summary.

  • @JonTheGeek
    @JonTheGeek Před 2 lety

    Why was I not shown this channel sooner this is perfection.

  • @williamwatkins6669
    @williamwatkins6669 Před 2 lety +3

    Haven't seen the swastika on CZcams for a while. Especially considering your video has been suggested in my feed. Great find and great content 🙂