Ace Combat 7 & Project Wingman - Review
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- Ace Combat 7 and Project Wingman - Double Feature Review
These games are both awesome. I think Wingman just about edges out the win. Incidentally, apparently that game has a development team of 3 people, which is insane to me. One writer, one composer, one developer.
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Project Wingman was actually pretty much embraced by Ace Combat fans as a part of its legacy (which is no surprise, cause it was made by fan, for fans and for money, donated by fans).
It does feel a lot like it! I enjoyed it loads
@@SilverMont and there is one particular thing PW managed to pull off that AC didn't - achieve a success in a niche genre without having a single licensed aircraft. Actually, AC tried to toss real planes as well in its AC3, but a number of unfortunate circumstances and decisions has buried almost every concept that this game had to offer (which is sad, because actually it was ahead of its other).
And this is actually a huge thing - not only it allowed to save tons of money during the production, but also removed the need to spend on licence updates during the life game's life cycle. So it means less issues with a potential sequels funding and will allow PW games to stay on the shelves indefinitely, unlike AC that needs to balance its budget between usual development expenses and plane licenses, so they could make the game that has enough brands to attract players, be good enough to keep them and be profitable enough so it could pay itself to stay alive.
And the last is the reason why we won't see re-releases or remasters of older games, and that's why Ace Combat Assault Horizon is gone from PC, despite being more than playable - as well as any flight, racing or other games that use any kind of licensed stuff (including music), at some point they just become unprofitable.
So despite AC being a huge legendary series, only a single game of it is available for purchase outside of the aftermarket, and it also will be gone soon after the sequel is released, while Project Wingman will stay at least on PC for in the foreseeable future (unless some unforeseen legal difficulties pop up years later).
I have played the campaign for AC7 at least 4 times, and I can confidently tell you that I have absolutely no clue what's the difference between Eusea, Osea, or Erusea, OR which side I'm even fighting for. Gg.
Just keep shooting missiles! Until you win
@@SilverMont Wilco! Great review btw.
Ace Combat's Strangereal kind of has three different storylines going on. The first came from 1999's Ace Combat 3 and Project Aces is doing their damnest to retcon it out, though you still see some references to it such as General Resources Ltd. in the DLC if you do some digging.
The second comes from 2001's Ace Combat 4. This involved the planet being struck by a large asteroid. A few years prior to impact, the asteroid was discovered and the various countries went about devising a means to destroy it. This ultimately lead to Stonehenge, the railgun array used to shoot down the Arsenal Bird. Stonehenge was MOSTLY successful in destroying the asteroid; a single gun failed during the event. Fragments from the asteroid that gun was supposed to intercept struck the city of Farbanti, resulting in the flooded section of the city. Meanwhile, Stonehenge could do nothing to protect the southern hemisphere of the planet, leading to a massive refugee crisis. The nations of the world got together to take in the refugees. Erusia, however, was in no shape to do so, and closed its boarders, resulting in a humanitarian crisis. Royally pissed off at Erusia, the other nations slapped the country with crippling sanctions. With nowhere left to go, Erusia began preparing for war. Their first act was to seize Stonehenge via military force and repurpose it as an antiaircraft weapon, giving them de facto air superiority over the entire continent. This in turn allowed them to wage a successful ground campaign to conquer the continent and negate the sanctions- until one fighter pilot singlehandedly turned the tide of the war.
The third storyline is the one from AC5 and AC0 (which is a prelude to 5.) Long story short, Belka was a superpower, much like the USSR was IRL. Like the USSR, they fell into an economic depression. In an attempt to prevent complete collapse, they allowed several provinces to succeed and form independent countries. Despite this, however, their financial difficulties continued. Shortly thereafter, a wealth of subterranean natural resources was discovered in one of their former territories: Ustio. Ustio refused to rejoin Belka and, as a result, Belka invaded them, kicking off the Belkan War- essentially Strangereal's WWII. Pretty much every nation objected to the invasion and declared war on Belka, which was ultimately defeated- and far too weak to ever start another war. Too proud to accept defeat, however, elements of the Belkan government went underground, forming an organization known as "the Grey Men." This organization infiltrated both the Osean and Yuktobanian governments and started a war between them (think Carter from Tomorrow Never Dies, but successful.) A squadron of pilots discover the ruse, expose the Grey Men, and ultimately defeat them.
Ace Combat 7 tries to combine 4's and 5/0's timeline into one cohesive entity, where Belka again tries to destroy its rival from the shadows.
I wonder what they'll do with the next entry, as AC7 seemed to be pretty popular, at least in sales
I think they're trying to tie in AC3 with the drone program and AI stuff in AC7. There's a lot of ties in with the Zone of Endless stuff and the final boss UAV's
Ace Combat 7 also has some really good standalone missions, though they might be paid dlc.
Those are great
Wingman has PREZ
That it does
If you want to play one of the older ones I'd recommend ace combat 5 since its a little more connected to ac7 than the others.
Also did you fly any of the two seaters in wingman?
In some of the early missions! Then I wondered where Prez went as I didn't realise some were 2 seaters and she was in there
Bro they were doing a deal, you got 5 and 7 for a decent price. Damn the campaign from 5 got me all misty eyed.
@@HammboneBob Wasn't that playstation only?
3:45 Modern fighter jets top out at around Mach 2 - less than half the Mach 5 required for hypersonic flight - and even then drop to subsonic to dogfight.
I see!
I too went out and bought Ace Combat after watching Top Gun 2. :P
I got it before, but still because of it haha. I was excited for the movie and wanted some plane shooty time
Have you tried wingman in vr? Because it’s flipping wicked in vr.
I have no VR stuff, but it's one of the few games that kinda makes me want it haha
@@SilverMont shame. If you thought it was a better game in flatscreen, VR will melt your retinas. If asked what my preferred VR flight title it would be VTOL VR, that one title is worth buying a headset for, in my opinion. Little (lot) less arcade orientated, but nowhere near something like a DCS. Fun to learn in.
I got these two earlier this year and loved them so much that I dusted off my old PS2 and bought Ace Combat 4 and 5 (still looking for AC0 at a decent price)
nice! It'd be cool if they did something like an Ace Combat Collection for PC
@@SilverMont Yeah, I also had to do the same with the older Metal Gear Solid titles- it's shocking how none of the AC games before 7 and none of the MGS games before 5 are on Steam at all.
Oh damn I didn't realise the MGS HD collection wasn't on pc, that's nuts
@@SilverMont a few are on GOG but not all of them.
@@CollinBuckman I believe that Assault Horizon was on there but it got delisted recently
I recommend Ace Combat 3, with a mod on English subs. It's quite an experience.
Now silver mount has "missile....missle....missle" warning p.t.s.d from ace combat series 😂
By the way, most games of the series are not only playable on PC (with exceptions being exclusives as X360 AC6, discontinued PS3 live service AC:Infinity and iOS 3-6 ACXi), but also XBOX Series (even including AC6 via backward compatibility) and Android (except the games of X360/PS3 generation and higher), you just need a proper emulators, ROMs and BIOSes.
My reccomendations are:
Ace Combat 2
Ace Combat 3
Ace Combat 4 (will reqire ISO patch and interlacing codes to defeat some graphical and performance issues)
Ace Combat 5
Ace Combat 0
Ace Combat X (HD modpacks are reccomended)
Those games are still a lot of fun, even AC2, which I felt having a better AI, than AC7. Maybe AC4 is the most boring of them all in terms of gameplay (like literally half of the game are score attack missions, sometimes six in a row), but the backstory story and the narrative is arguably the best, so I can't really say some games are superior to others as each has its own unique features.
as someone who was debating which of these two games to play, you saved me the effort of having to watch a second video xD
that said, gonna start with Ace to ease into it
I think that's ideal AC -> PW!
There's a VR mode on ACE7 if you have the hardware
Any pilot stat tracking? (Kills, crashes, flight time, etc)?
Do you get to takeoff and land in this or do all missions start you in the air? Timed missions in AC ruin it for me.
You can take off in both of them I think. But not all missions, some start in the air
i played ace combat 7 first, then i wanted more, played wingman, the only thing i knew coming into wingman was: *nukes*
I wasn't dissapointed
And railguns!
@@SilverMont i played double time final battle on hardest difficulty + ace training + addon weapons, this is actual hell lmao
I played both of them and i like both of them Ace Combat 7 has Multiplayer and many planes to fly i think PW has less planes but any way Ace Combat has more to offer trough its Multiplayer and Medal Achievment and i dont care about graphics im born 1982 we grew up with much worse graphics than that what counts is the fun a game brings and today we have great graphics but less fun than we had in the 90s
Yeah the obsession with graphics can get a bit much
I know I'm a bit late, but I just wanted to say that I've heard rumors that much of PWs dev team are working on a different project
Oh? That'd be cool. Hope bandai hired em to work on ace combat or something haha
@@SilverMont looked into it a bit, looks like jose pavli is off doing his own thing, not 100% on what the other two are doing right now
The side project was "Frontline-59", DLC exclusive to PS5
Really loved both games so I *didn't* pirate the retro games and played them on an emulator
An ace combat remaster collection would be a good PC release! Just higher resolution and stuff
@@SilverMontI believe ace combat 0 got a hd remaster but it was a playstation exclusive pre order bonus for ace combat 7
About the older games not being on steam... they are playstation exclusive
Plenty of old games that were exclusive at the time get ported to other platforms later on, though.
Wingman abaolutely nailed cockpit view compared to AC.
Yeah? I do prefer the view that lets me see the plane myself
@@SilverMont Im telling you :) Not only that but in AC even from 3rd person I found very difficult to look around during fight. Its basically only playable when locking target. Also the fact that you need to leave mission to change keybinds...just oof. So for me its wingman all day every day.
I started playing the game last year and immediately started dominating online. Hardly anyone tries to get away and just tries kill.
OLd me miss the days of Origin(not - erh,well pre - EA) and their games 😞
P wingman Is better in every way
Except lack of Replay Viewer and Multiplayer,
Which Ass7 Does have but they are weak in Graphics and quality anyway 😊
I suppose they could add MP in, in theory!
@@SilverMontreplay viewer is more important though especially if you can save them and share
please review mgs 5 and ghost of tsushima
I've done mgs5, you're in luck!
project wingman fucking sucks, mostly because i couldn`t play it.
wat
@@SilverMont blackscreen and nothing i read anywhere worked.
@@SilverMont minor spelling mistake ):
Oh ok that makes a lot more sense! And well that sucks, I'm sorry to hear you had that problem. I suppose it's inevitable that issues of that nature might spring up from a tiny development team
Alex, stop being so damn cool, some of us can't keep up. Also, what are your favorite crafts and can you do some pvp? I love to play this game.