How do Jared Bednar and the Colorado Avalanche handle the playoff goalie situation
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- After Alexandar Georgiev let in seven goals in Game 1 the Avs have to face the question of what to do in net, but with Justus Annunen sick the question may be more complicated than it first appears.
Intro - 0:00
Who’s starting game 2? - 0:34
No consistency - 5:10
Goals and saves breakdowns - 8:30
Top 5 backup goalies in the playoffs - 30:30
Hear from bedsy after optional practice - 43:30
Wrapping up - 57:57
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Idk why Rudo keeps ripping Toews for that 2 on 1. You should take the pass and let the goalie have the shooter, he managed to do both and Georgiev still got scored on. But seriously stop bashing him for that.
I think he’s trying to get at what caused it and how to prevent Geo from facing literally ANY THING!!!
Idk if rudo was but i do believe AJ said he "defended it pretty well" so idk what this comment is
@@ostarakonrad9907 because of what he's said on twitter, the after game pod, his game review, and briefly here where he said he didn't like how he played it. Rudo has been pretty consistent about how he feels on that play, but I agree with AJ. if you don't trust your goalie you play like Toews did here and he did pretty good. still got scored on
Georgiev has the biggest case of the yips in NHL history. I fantasize him proving all of us wrong. That would be fucking great!
Honestly same. I think that’s why Sunday was so frustrating.
Aj you’re deep dive into those numbers was awesome! Impressive analysis 🔥
Not gonna lie, Rudo got me with the "he doesn't have the triple deke".
The only highlight of last nights game was meeting Eric and Rudo at the DNVR bar.
its Georgie 100%. They're not gonna start prosvetov tomorrow after calling him up. Annunen must have something fairly severe if theyre calling for another backup. My guess is have prosvetov as backup for game 2, but this is the end of the leash for georgie. Unless he somehow has a stellar game, and we still lose, annunen will be in depending on his health situation.
They’ll tighten it up defensively
Who is the goalie coach?
And who trains defensemen and attackers in their own zone?
Avs facing the season's turning point G2. What's this team's true character? We shall see.
I think Game 3 will be the turning point when Annunen starts. I watched all the Avs 1.0 games & all those late 90s playoff series were back & forth. While I expect Georguev to bake another poop cake, being down 0-2 doesn't lose the series. If any team can come back from down two its this team. Kovalenko is burning a year of his ELC, so I fully expect him to join this series. A switch in goal + NK51 could give them a huge boost rest of the series.
@@petrpumpkineaterboost? they dominated the game lol
I hate admitting this, but you can't start prospotov over georgiev. So georgiev gets another shot, but he gives up 3 in 10 and he has to come out. I know the defense needs to play better, and they have to not tee up turnovers in front of the net, but if we don't see at least .850 he can't be in net for game 3 if annunen is healthy
The Avs upfront talent is being wasted on a subpar, less than adequate net minder in Georgiev. You shouldn’t need a 9 goal cushion because your goalie just isn’t getting it done.
If the Front office *REALLY* talked and thought it through they wouldn't have called up Holm knowing FOUR-giev was gonna suck and be forced to leave him in net knowing they couldnt put in Holm
Jets are really that for real Avs fans, Georgiev isn't the problem, Jets just come in waves.
lol 7 goals on 20 something shots is most definitely a problem
@@thomasconnolly8683 Jets have done worse to better brother
jets would lose that game if georgiev was .850 but he didn't stop nothing meaningful. jets D was much worse lol We are witnessing mackinnon's life season destroyed by ridiculously bad goaltending. I am so pissed watching this video lol
@@bhenderson2725Its funny you think this is just a Jets thing. Georgiev cant stop shit except when he plays the NYR. every other game they either go down 2 minimum in the first, or if they go up 4 he implodes in the third.
the Avs skaters dominated this game. Every stat backs it up, as well as the eye-test
@@Nathanielhiggerson66 Told you bud, it's not Georgiev, the Jets are good upfront, well not last night but you see now?
If all I knew was, Av's scored 6 goals on 45 shots, compared to Jet's 23 shots...there's no way I'm betting Jet's scored 7 on 23 shots in a game, that just doesn't happen with the Jet's everyday these days? Something isn't right here? Jet's aren't a high scoring shootout type of team. Go Jet's!!!
Scram jets scrum you have no talent and lowry is your captain🤡
@@putastakeonit Any team in the NHL would love to have Lowry on team. If/when Jet's put the over rated Av's out of playoffs, it will be partly due to the solid play and leadership Lowry brings..."
@@ocnblizzard4764You’re calling the Avs overrated after watching the same game I did? they dominated for 50 minutes lol. You know you got away with one
The reality is setting in…they will not win the stanley cup with annunen or georgiev🙄
unfortunately it is the poopy goaltending that will sink this team. kuemper was below par for the cup run but georgiev is atrocious.
Kuemper was at least above .900
Imagine continuously blaming the goalie after the D left him out to dry the entire game. Jets were left unopposed in front of the net all night.
Jets d was even worse. Avs dominated them in all categories- except sv%
@@Nathanielhiggerson66 ya don't expect that to happen again. Good luck to scoring even 6 goals in the remaining series
@@slothythebadger7726 I mean from what I’ve seen this one game they’ve played eachother in the playoffs I’m feeling pretty confident if the Avs get even ,870% goaltending
@@slothythebadger7726 5/6 done. u sure bud?
Empty the net from pick drop...would it really be much different,&at least you get the extra attacker. Obviously I'm kidding but last night was beyond inexcusable. I've defended Giorgiev more than many-at times this year now nuanced,& simplistic analysis just automatically blames the goalie if a goal is scored-2nd goal last night-perfect example-thats not in Giorgiev but an abysmal turnover by Manson.I think he's got too much blame at times this yr. And the dude was a top 4 or 5 goalie last regular season-with a decimated roster usually in front of him. And while Grubauer outplayed him in that series-it wasn't by much.Grubauer was great but Giorgiev was pretty good Id say.
But even I can't defend him anymore-he clearly has ZERO confidence,& the team doesn't trust him at all-for good reason.They are classy,& say all the right things publicly.But just as bad defense affects a goalie,& makes him look worse-the reverse is also true.When you don't trust your goalie-you subconsciously play different,& try to do too much. The worst thing in sports is not being able to trust your goalie-even worse than not trusting your qb.At least if you have an awful qb-he comes out on defense,& ST. In theory at least-the defense,& special teams can make up for a bad offense or qb-see 2015 Broncos. But while it's possible to overcome average or even slightly below average goaltending in hockey-its impossible to overcome terrible goaltending.
I will say Giorgiev deserves the lions share of blame here-but the organization has to take their share-if this playoffs goes down in flames cuz of goaltending.I was all for the trade for Giorgiev-I don't blame them for trying.And I also didn't want to give up a bunch of assets,& use a bunch of cap to get a Jake Allen,or Fleury...somebody whod challenge Giorgiev as starter. But it is inexcusable they didn't get some kind of veteran #2 or #3 veteran at the deadline.To get a Kakonen-or somebody of similar ilk-wouldnt have cost more than 3rd or 4th rounder,& very little in cap.And 4th rounders in hockey are far less valuable than say football.Theres exceptions of course-but most 4th round picks in hockey have a tiny chance of ever playing 1 AHL game-let alone NHL. You went all in,except at goalie.
I'm not saying Kakonen or any other vet would've saved the day-but at least would've given you a veteran option who's played playoff games-in case of injury or awful performance. Instead your only option is Aninen-a guy who's never played a playoff game himself,& only like 15 NHL games period IF he's even available.And Prospotov-pretty much the same story.And this isn't hindsight-so many of us said this at the deadline. I don't agree with people who say McFarland,&/or Bednar should be on the hot seat at all.Neither should be yet-no matter what happens this playoffs. But if they start slow next yr,&/or have more bad gm moves this off-season-there comes a point...I think McFarland's seat should get warm long before Bednar.
Between the Giorgiev trade,signing,& by far worst of -not getting some insurance at the deadline-this might end up being worst mistake Avalanche 2.0 mgt has made.Even worse than the Ry Jo signing...even worse than the disastrous Nemeth/Soderburg 2021 deadline. It's just a shame to see the team literally dominating WPG-but it doesn't matter. Game 2 is almost must win-but you wasted a night you scored 6 on Hellunbuck-youll likely never even score 5 on him ever again. I saw 2 analytics last night.If both teams just get average goaltending-(& Hellunbuck didn't even play as good as average-so this tells you how awful Giorgiev was)-Avs win by an expected score of 5-2...& if you take goaltending out,& simulate that game-with high danger chances,normal chances,harmless chances,etc factored in...Avs win 810 times,WPG wins 190...81%!
Not fair to the rest of the team to keep putting a guy in there nobody believes in anymore-including himself. And it was foolish,& unfair to the team to take a huge risk,& not address that big question mark at the deadline to any degree.But plenty of time to discuss blame in the off-season-somehow/some way ya gotta find a way to win game 2-or it's curtains. If Giorgiev starts game 3 at Ball after another bad performance in game 2-fans will not be kind for good reason.
Dude, no one wants a 1,000 word lecture. It is CZcams bro
The time has come to play the games. Enough talking. Deliver NOW or STHup & head home for the summer.
The kids screaming in the background is painful
Avs don't know how to play "tight" defense. Not their style.
What a game to be at! Go Jets Go!
Fourgiev will lose the next game too. He's washed.
Doesn’t really matter. Only 3 games left for the avs
Yeah you got that right! lol
@@youcomplain2much lol I was pretty far off! 🤣
Start Georgiev
Why? What have you seen that inspires any confidence. He will implode, that’s what he does. His game is fundamentally broken. Not even speaking to his confidence, which disappeared before Thanksgiving. You give yourself a better chance with either Prosvetov or Holm. It’s not an overreaction to one bad game. This guy has gotten progressively worse as the season has gone on. To the point that he’s unplayable at this point.
Since the GM didn’t shore up getting a 2G when Francouz departed, and Justus is ill, Bednard really doesn’t have a choice. Hopefully, the Avs adjust defensively- tighten gaps & limit gaffs & TO’s, and then they have a very good chance. Run & gun doesn’t work in the playoffs, and it’s hard to outscore your mistakes.
@@augustwest5207 Even if they had gotten a backup at the deadline. Georgiev still would've had the net in game 1 & the result would've been what we all saw. Who could they have gotten that would've been taking into consideration cost & assets, that would've been a better option than Annunen? Jake Allen? Fleury..who didn't want to be moved?
Regardless..of who dresses as the backup tomorrow it's dumb & irresponsible of Bednar to go back to Georgiev. He's been bad all year & has not shown one time that he has the ability to bounce back. If anything it's been a progressive slide down. That culminated in last night. So this argument that you can't throw an inexperienced goalie into a road playoff game, why?? Worst case they do the same thing Georgiev had been doing most of the year & more so the last month. Let in every mid - high danger score chance. And the occasional low danger chance to.
Did you look at the numbers from game 1? The Avs allowed 23 shots on goal. Half of which were considered low danger chances. It's a joke..what this guy is doing right now.
@@jeremykaus8671Jake Allen is who I was thinking of. Start georgiev & put him on a very short leash.
Please stop using our Lord's name in vain.
Goddamnit you're right, I shouldn't do that shit... Jesus.
@@XetehJesus f-ing Christ dude… 👋🤦
And to the original post. Stop using “our” (it’s condescending prescribing your solution to your lack of understanding of reality and stupidity onto everyone else).
And we all have the right to express our opinions and to use expressions. I’d just suggest using the word “my” next time. As it better represents your reality and without the overreaching condescension. I would never expect you to not offend me by trying to tell you what words are off limits to me. This isn’t a hate speech debate, just subjective babbling nonsense opinions…
@@XetehChrist get your goddamned shit together
Put a CZcams filter on for you and your pg family, thought Jesus was coming in 2012😂
I don’t recall them using Zeus’s name in vain 🤔