the soft skills you mentioned make me grateful that my previous jobs helped me build up those aspects. now, i just need the same confidence to transfer over to my code. c: also, it's delightful seeing you active again!
What surprised me is that I prefer when someone asks me a detailed question instead of just asking for me to help. Learning how to ask good questions is a good skill to have when working in a team. Yes, you should ask questions, but over time, try to learn how to ask questions that can get you the answer you seek.
If you will email, then email all your ask, I can read the email or dm whenever I can and get back to you. I you have to come up to me then sure, you can let me know you need me to look over something when you have time.
100% That's what I prefer as well. If I have to respond and then wait for you to respond. Well, that's time lost. I can read the question and think about the answer before trying to construct a message.
Yes, if it's in person, then say good morning and ask if I have a moment. If it's in an email or messaging app, then just ask the question! It's asynchronous! We don't have to be online at the same time!
Absolutely. I'd prefer a detailed message over a hi. Slack is meant for async communication. If it needs to be synchronous, block a time in the calendar or pull me in for a huddle. Synchronous chat is a waste of time.
This is a great point. I am a junior and am always asking my colleagues for help. Before I come to them, I will spend time thinking about my problem and making sure that when I ask my question, it's accurate to what I need; not too general or too vague. Honestly, this can be tricky to do at times, but it helps me and my colleagues out.
You just got me to subscribe! I've known her channel for a while now and her videos are awesome, but I just never subscribed up until now. I don't even know why. Maybe she never says "subscribe to my channel" in her videos.
Just to be clear, I'm not knocking Bootstrap, PHP, or other tech. I personally like them! I'm making a joke about how some devs always seem to complain about PHP, jQuery, Bootstrap, being "old" or "out of date" etc. (which I don't agree with at all)
I quite dissagree with 3:22. Chat is asynchronous method of communication and doesn't require another person to respond immediatelly. On the other hand, when they will become available you might be busy to give more details. So I believe it's best to give all of the details that you think will be helpful to solve your problem.
great point! It is true, people may use chat differently and there might be different practices if there are employees across time zones too. I was mainly talking from experiences with coworkers who *did* expect a response immediately, and would repeatedly spam the DMs asking for your answer 😅
Imagine if you keep asking them “hey I got a quick question, whenever you have time” online without putting the question out there. The coworker will believe that you are annoying and a time waster as you don’t get straight to the point, thus willl see you as annoying.😮
@@tonyhtran This is what my coworkers and I did at work and everyone seemed pretty happy with it. But I'm sure every person and company has their own preferences and culture, so you can do whatever will annoy people the least 🙃
I disagree with it too, don't ask to ask, that in itself is annoying But, still preface with "Hey, I know you're probably busy but I would love to have your input on this, whenever you can of course" in the same message as or in the message that precedes your request And when you ask for help, give all pertaining info! What you're doing and what you're trying to achieve, what the problem is and everything you've tried to fix it.
Great Info! I personally prefer that if someone is reaching out to me to ask a question or a "wall of text" they do so immediatly, so I don't have to then wait again to get their question, but I agree with the overall sentiment of being mindful of the other person being busy so a "I know you are busy *wall of text*" or even just knowing that it takes time and not spam for an answer is great!
Just as expected a super meaningful content. Thanks for always reminding it's not always about seating in front the desk and code all day long ♥.. Still waiting for the launch of the course
This is a great little video and I think these tips apply to any job actually. Trying to have consideration for others and make their life better is a really valuable thing to do
I think getting the full question immediately is actually more efficient, as I can then deal with it when I have a free time slot of the appropriate size. Having to first ask the other person what they need (possibly also interrupting them while they're now working on something else already) always seems wasteful.
Thanks for sharing! Definitely agree with your points, in the industry today you almost always have to communicate with another person and do it well. The developers that figure this out early and continue to work on their soft skills are the ones who get promoted or see significantly more success in their businesses or careers.
You explain so well! Even me I don't speak very well English but I can understand everything you explain to us, and also you motivate to learn with the right way.
Positive name dropping is a big one for me. I was however mentioned and given credit for doing a good job in an all hands in my first 6 months and that motivated me to push and work even harder to succeed at the company.
IME, the sign of a good team environment is if someone new to the team is comfortable asking for ELI5 answers to questions without being treated like a nuisance when you're new, there are always so much team-specific jargon and acronyms that you have zero chance of understanding without someone giving you a quick explanation
I love your videos, I learn a lot, it is fun, and I also enjoy and learn from you the videography, You became my virtual buddy. I sit to eat my lunch and dinner and put your videos instead of soap operas!
best way to consider those who are less technical is that it's not their core business to understand that particlar thing. But they have their own skills that you are not an expert of. I find my mentioning it's okay if this is not your core business, we'll figure it out tends to reduce the stress people have about technology and keep conversations useful and without fear. The mindset completely changes. Cheers.
Great video! As someone in game dev, all of this still very much applies. At over a decade at a large studio and I've seen maybe three engineers get let go for coding performance, but many many more for other reasons (often, interpersonal). Even for those three, it was still not *really* about that as much as just how much it costed their teams to support them over an extended period of time and not directly about their coding. Fundamentally, it's about if the team can be more productive with or without the person. And there's a lot more that goes into that than just coding.
Really dig this and I feel like not enough of dev talk online addresses these more real world things. Maybe cos the industry is oversaturated with men, or because the venn diagram of people who like to do talks and like only taking about the newest coolest tech is almost a circle But yeah this was very refreshing and I wish there was more content about the human side of working with code, from bringing up soft skills like this, to dealing with legacy code or maybe even talk on why the uber cool uber smart new way of doing something might not be good code in a real world project where cider changes hands and readibility 6 months down the line by a new inexperienced collegue is hugely important. Or about how much of good code is actually quality refinement of requirements and the many back and forths between various departments to plan it out.
thanks so much . your videos help me stay on tracking, i am still new learning frontend and if not for your videos would have quit due to all these overwhelming pressure and anxiety.
It's more important to know how to handle working in a team and working with people in general. Also important to know how to handle stress and make sure you have a good work/life balance.
As for me, I prefer that people get directly to the point if they have a question for me, regardless if I'm busy or not, so this was my approach too when I have a question to other people, although I always preface it with "Whenever your available . . . ". I feel that that way, they don't have to respond immediately to me and they could just backread my message anytime and assess if it's something urgent or not. And I try my best not to sound annoying or entitled. But this is an eyeopener that some really prefer not having the question be dropped immediately on chats. I'll keep that in mind :)
Excellent tips and advice. One other tip would be if you ever happen to find yourself with little or nothing to do at the moment (I know, extremely rare) ask if there is something you can do that needs doing (like documentation 😉).
Being nice by starting a conversation with "I know you're really busy but I have a question for you" is... nice, but it also violates a bit the "nohello" rule. So I think the best way to ask is to start just politely and respectfully like in this video, but then immediately make short 1-2 sentence description of your problem. This might save time both for you and person you're trying to get help from :)
I come from a different backgrount, used to be a seaman before. I can say that all you said is true but are applied for every job, not only software engineer.
Why is this video not promoted all over the place to show people who are about to become developers how unimportant programming skills really are in the corporate world.
These are called soft skills. I think, back in the early stages of computers and networks, it was "nerds" dealing with "nerds". Now that you get people with experience from other disciplines and how IT has ingrained itself in many aspects of an organization, nerds need to know how to talk to and deal with people.
Interestingly WordPress is using some fairly modern code theses days. Gutenberg, their new content/site editor is written with React and Redux. So I am not sure I would necessarily call it "old code" these days.
A lot of people suffer from lack of these skills including myself. It has def killed my career and stalled out my earning potential. Many talented but unemployable people out there in part because they are critically low in emotional intelligence.
It could be either-- if I know what's being asked isn't possible even with infinite time, I'll say that. If I don't know how to do something but think I can figure it out, I'll tell them I'll research it and let them know in a few hours if it is possible. If I truly don't know how to do something and don't think I could figure it out I will also say that. I just try to be honest.
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the soft skills you mentioned make me grateful that my previous jobs helped me build up those aspects. now, i just need the same confidence to transfer over to my code. c: also, it's delightful seeing you active again!
Best of luck, and thanks for watching!
What surprised me is that I prefer when someone asks me a detailed question instead of just asking for me to help. Learning how to ask good questions is a good skill to have when working in a team. Yes, you should ask questions, but over time, try to learn how to ask questions that can get you the answer you seek.
If you will email, then email all your ask, I can read the email or dm whenever I can and get back to you.
I you have to come up to me then sure, you can let me know you need me to look over something when you have time.
100% That's what I prefer as well. If I have to respond and then wait for you to respond. Well, that's time lost. I can read the question and think about the answer before trying to construct a message.
Yes, if it's in person, then say good morning and ask if I have a moment. If it's in an email or messaging app, then just ask the question! It's asynchronous! We don't have to be online at the same time!
Absolutely. I'd prefer a detailed message over a hi. Slack is meant for async communication. If it needs to be synchronous, block a time in the calendar or pull me in for a huddle. Synchronous chat is a waste of time.
This is a great point. I am a junior and am always asking my colleagues for help. Before I come to them, I will spend time thinking about my problem and making sure that when I ask my question, it's accurate to what I need; not too general or too vague.
Honestly, this can be tricky to do at times, but it helps me and my colleagues out.
Let's be real, this channel deserved 1m from day 1.
I couldn't agree more
Lmao simply no
Yeah she helped me a lot through her videos and she really came a long way.
Not really.
You just got me to subscribe!
I've known her channel for a while now and her videos are awesome, but I just never subscribed up until now. I don't even know why. Maybe she never says "subscribe to my channel" in her videos.
Just to be clear, I'm not knocking Bootstrap, PHP, or other tech. I personally like them! I'm making a joke about how some devs always seem to complain about PHP, jQuery, Bootstrap, being "old" or "out of date" etc. (which I don't agree with at all)
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Nice, that's pretty much my stack 😅😂
jQuery was my jam when I was working!
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Just changed my career to Software Engineer from being an Animator. I didn't know it would be this stressful 😭
It's hard, but you can do it!!
The job??
I'm in the same process but it never feels like I'm ready. If I learn one thing there is almost a new mountain ready waiting.
@@anushdsouza9632 its like playing elden ring !
@@anushdsouza9632 i did engineering and i feel the same 🤣 just graduated couple of months ago. Rejected a few jobs because they weren’t tech enough
I quite dissagree with 3:22.
Chat is asynchronous method of communication and doesn't require another person to respond immediatelly.
On the other hand, when they will become available you might be busy to give more details.
So I believe it's best to give all of the details that you think will be helpful to solve your problem.
great point! It is true, people may use chat differently and there might be different practices if there are employees across time zones too. I was mainly talking from experiences with coworkers who *did* expect a response immediately, and would repeatedly spam the DMs asking for your answer 😅
Imagine if you keep asking them “hey I got a quick question, whenever you have time” online without putting the question out there. The coworker will believe that you are annoying and a time waster as you don’t get straight to the point, thus willl see you as annoying.😮
@@tonyhtran This is what my coworkers and I did at work and everyone seemed pretty happy with it. But I'm sure every person and company has their own preferences and culture, so you can do whatever will annoy people the least 🙃
@@TheCoderCoder I think you are correct. some people have their preferences. thanks for being active to respond
I disagree with it too, don't ask to ask, that in itself is annoying
But, still preface with "Hey, I know you're probably busy but I would love to have your input on this, whenever you can of course"
in the same message as or in the message that precedes your request
And when you ask for help, give all pertaining info! What you're doing and what you're trying to achieve, what the problem is and everything you've tried to fix it.
Great Info! I personally prefer that if someone is reaching out to me to ask a question or a "wall of text" they do so immediatly, so I don't have to then wait again to get their question, but I agree with the overall sentiment of being mindful of the other person being busy so a "I know you are busy *wall of text*" or even just knowing that it takes time and not spam for an answer is great!
Just as expected a super meaningful content. Thanks for always reminding it's not always about seating in front the desk and code all day long ♥.. Still waiting for the launch of the course
thanks for watching! Course is still coming, hoping for end of the year :D
This is a great little video and I think these tips apply to any job actually.
Trying to have consideration for others and make their life better is a really valuable thing to do
Very true! Thanks for watching!
I think getting the full question immediately is actually more efficient, as I can then deal with it when I have a free time slot of the appropriate size. Having to first ask the other person what they need (possibly also interrupting them while they're now working on something else already) always seems wasteful.
That's a really good point 👍🏼
My Favorite CZcamsr, Go Go Coder Coder Go.
Thanks for sharing your personal experiences with us.
Pretty good video, the daily life of a programmer has so many different aspects to it that it sometimes becomes overwhelming.
Thanks for sharing! Definitely agree with your points, in the industry today you almost always have to communicate with another person and do it well. The developers that figure this out early and continue to work on their soft skills are the ones who get promoted or see significantly more success in their businesses or careers.
So true!
Happy to see you uploaded again! 😊
You explain so well! Even me I don't speak very well English but I can understand everything you explain to us, and also you motivate to learn with the right way.
she's underrated. love ur channel
Positive name dropping is a big one for me. I was however mentioned and given credit for doing a good job in an all hands in my first 6 months and that motivated me to push and work even harder to succeed at the company.
More tips for juniors please! :) and thank you for your work ! Good job.
Awesome, thanks for watching! Will try to do more of these in the future too
This is so true!
The quality of your vids are surreal to me!
Astonishing.
Such a perfect observation skill, this couldn't be better explained than this. 🙂
This is a very helpful video. I'm still working on my communication skills.
Great to see you again Coder Coder! Thank you for your video!
Good to be back, thanks!!
IME, the sign of a good team environment is if someone new to the team is comfortable asking for ELI5 answers to questions without being treated like a nuisance
when you're new, there are always so much team-specific jargon and acronyms that you have zero chance of understanding without someone giving you a quick explanation
thanks for reducing the competition in the market!
I love your videos, I learn a lot, it is fun, and I also enjoy and learn from you the videography, You became my virtual buddy. I sit to eat my lunch and dinner and put your videos instead of soap operas!
Not just coding, this is good advice for any field and just human interactions in general.
best way to consider those who are less technical is that it's not their core business to understand that particlar thing. But they have their own skills that you are not an expert of. I find my mentioning it's okay if this is not your core business, we'll figure it out tends to reduce the stress people have about technology and keep conversations useful and without fear. The mindset completely changes. Cheers.
That's a really great point! Everyone has different skill sets 👍🏼
Wow!! Thanks a lot!
Learning from my boss and other colleagues sure helped me in my first job!
Thanks for watching! Glad you had a good boss and colleagues to learn from too!
Great video!
As someone in game dev, all of this still very much applies. At over a decade at a large studio and I've seen maybe three engineers get let go for coding performance, but many many more for other reasons (often, interpersonal). Even for those three, it was still not *really* about that as much as just how much it costed their teams to support them over an extended period of time and not directly about their coding.
Fundamentally, it's about if the team can be more productive with or without the person. And there's a lot more that goes into that than just coding.
So true, thanks for sharing your experience!
Really dig this and I feel like not enough of dev talk online addresses these more real world things. Maybe cos the industry is oversaturated with men, or because the venn diagram of people who like to do talks and like only taking about the newest coolest tech is almost a circle
But yeah this was very refreshing and I wish there was more content about the human side of working with code, from bringing up soft skills like this, to dealing with legacy code or maybe even talk on why the uber cool uber smart new way of doing something might not be good code in a real world project where cider changes hands and readibility 6 months down the line by a new inexperienced collegue is hugely important. Or about how much of good code is actually quality refinement of requirements and the many back and forths between various departments to plan it out.
Your mic quality and speaking cadance are on point.
I just switch company when I notice that the company is trying to use me, I usually stay at a company for anywhere between 2 to 4 years :')
thanks so much . your videos help me stay on tracking, i am still new learning frontend and if not for your videos would have quit due to all these overwhelming pressure and anxiety.
Great tips. Thanks for sharing!
hey Sam, thanks for watching!
What I got from this was... Be nice to everyone and help where you can so when you need help, it won't be so difficult to get it.
Incredibly insightful content!
Thank you for the great video!
Technical skills + Professional skills = Great programmer! Thanks for sharing the great advice!
It's more important to know how to handle working in a team and working with people in general. Also important to know how to handle stress and make sure you have a good work/life balance.
EVERYONE I WON!!!!!!
great content as usual, good to see you upload again! ❤
Thanks for watching!
I am glad to see new videos from you
I really like this upload. There's so much value here.
I give up for coding, from now I just enjoy watching your video's.
Coding is hard but in a way it makes me feel good i don't know why. It's like waiting up and thinking about that editor
As for me, I prefer that people get directly to the point if they have a question for me, regardless if I'm busy or not, so this was my approach too when I have a question to other people, although I always preface it with "Whenever your available . . . ". I feel that that way, they don't have to respond immediately to me and they could just backread my message anytime and assess if it's something urgent or not. And I try my best not to sound annoying or entitled. But this is an eyeopener that some really prefer not having the question be dropped immediately on chats. I'll keep that in mind :)
Love this. Some of this for me is just how I am naturally. But all of this is great advice. Thanks Jessica.
That's great to hear! Thanks so much for watching!
Absolutely loved this video!! Keep up the good work
These advice are so IMPORTANT.
Thank you Maam , Our internship manager always used to tell us these advices .
Great advice.
In addition:
Protect yourself at all times.
Trust, no one.
Especially in toxic work environments.
Lol.
Amazing I did it You made my day Thank you!!
Great insight. This really applies to all professions.
Excellent tips and advice. One other tip would be if you ever happen to find yourself with little or nothing to do at the moment (I know, extremely rare) ask if there is something you can do that needs doing (like documentation 😉).
this translates to so many other areas, I did tech at exxon, nothing like coding but this topic is absolutely (almost universaly) the same.
Thanks for sharing! I'm working on my communication skill cause I know that's really important and not saying no to hard things 😄
Heyy how are you doing that?? My communication sucks big time, i have no idea where to start, what to do. Please give me some suggestions:)
Great video, on point!
We missed you a lot
0:12 The code is alive!
Oh my god, yes. People skills need to be taught in whatever pipeline developers come out of.
Being nice by starting a conversation with "I know you're really busy but I have a question for you" is... nice, but it also violates a bit the "nohello" rule.
So I think the best way to ask is to start just politely and respectfully like in this video, but then immediately make short 1-2 sentence description of your problem.
This might save time both for you and person you're trying to get help from :)
Thanks for sharing. Very much helpful.
thank you for watching!
Agree! Ideation is much easier than implementation, that's why communication skills must be at par with your coding skills 💯💯💯👍
agreed! thanks for watching!
Thank you as always Coder Coder
I come from a different backgrount, used to be a seaman before. I can say that all you said is true but are applied for every job, not only software engineer.
Why is this video not promoted all over the place to show people who are about to become developers how unimportant programming skills really are in the corporate world.
Ur content is soo pragmatic and real. Love it.
These are called soft skills. I think, back in the early stages of computers and networks, it was "nerds" dealing with "nerds". Now that you get people with experience from other disciplines and how IT has ingrained itself in many aspects of an organization, nerds need to know how to talk to and deal with people.
Missed your content.. very educative video as always.
This was amazing!
please make videos frequently.... ❤️
Great advices thanks as always.
I just want to say I love your speaking voice.
Interestingly WordPress is using some fairly modern code theses days. Gutenberg, their new content/site editor is written with React and Redux. So I am not sure I would necessarily call it "old code" these days.
I totally agree! I love WordPress and use it on my blog. They've done a really good job keeping things fresh 🔥
Mmm, not sure where to post this. But is there job tables where a junior dev can apply? This coding stuff is fascinating stuff
Valuable insights for ANY career!
Thanks so much! I do agree a lot of these can be applied to any career :D
Love your content, when are you planning to drop your course ? Can't wait!
Thank you! It's still in the works, hopefully will launch by end of this year!
Great content as always. All hail Jessica!
Hey thanks for these tips 🙌
Thank you 🔥🔥
Amazing tips!
You're back 😭😭
With quality content 😍
This channel deserve consistency
Wordpress old technology?? Great vid thanks for the tips, as a self taught trying to break into the tech industry as a web developer its tough.
Just found your channel, Subscribed...;)
If you want to be a great developer just start following this channel
Welcome back it been 5months
Thanks it helped me install it
Please keep upload videos! We love your content ❤️
thanks for watching!
This is so accurate
I needed this video
A lot of people suffer from lack of these skills including myself. It has def killed my career and stalled out my earning potential. Many talented but unemployable people out there in part because they are critically low in emotional intelligence.
We missed youu 💜
Thanks!
Thank you
Great Content, Very Helpful
thanks for the advice " miss kubayashi"
lolol you're welcome!
Some advice for you. Lower the volume of your back ground music.
So 2:35 do you straight up tell them it is not feasible within the timeframe or I do not have skills to do so?
It could be either-- if I know what's being asked isn't possible even with infinite time, I'll say that. If I don't know how to do something but think I can figure it out, I'll tell them I'll research it and let them know in a few hours if it is possible. If I truly don't know how to do something and don't think I could figure it out I will also say that. I just try to be honest.
useful, thanks