Apple is tempting me... - MacBook Pro M3

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024

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  • @Graamow
    @Graamow Před 7 měsíci +2483

    Apple`s prices for RAM and Storage upgrades is straight up highway robbery.

    • @NotYourSpy
      @NotYourSpy Před 7 měsíci +14

      They are paying for r&d to put in in one chip.

    • @JFat5158
      @JFat5158 Před 7 měsíci +139

      @@NotYourSpy sure

    • @KyleDavis328
      @KyleDavis328 Před 7 měsíci +123

      @@NotYourSpy Except they've been doing this long before developing their own silicon

    • @JFat5158
      @JFat5158 Před 7 měsíci +78

      @@KyleDavis328 and not to mention always skipping the sweet spot for storage on their phones so you have to buy more than you need or go with a bare bones setup.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Get a Dell, Dude !

  • @alexcruzazul2010
    @alexcruzazul2010 Před 7 měsíci +1087

    They should also put "Up to $7,199" in the info sheet...

    • @NotUwU-_-
      @NotUwU-_- Před 7 měsíci +31

      Instead "starting at..."

    • @zimbu_
      @zimbu_ Před 7 měsíci +7

      I don't think the people who always get the best laptop Apple sells care about prices. There's something like 100k people globally with a net worth of over 100 million dollars who can earn more than $10k in a day on average by just keeping some of their money in an index fund. People who need a laptop for personal use and don't significantly benefit from paying attention to the prices of most things they purchase is a decent sized market nowadays.

    • @leonro
      @leonro Před 7 měsíci +11

      ​@@zimbu_that's great, then they should sell a halo laptop that costs a lot, but why does every model have to be so overpriced - especially when factoring in memory/storage upgrades?

    • @SN-hn9zi
      @SN-hn9zi Před 7 měsíci

      Then they should do that for PCs as well or pre built dells or whatever. So don’t be biased

    • @PFnove
      @PFnove Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@SN-hn9zimsi already tells you a lot of information about what youre getting with the "starting at" price and what you have to spend to get the best components (and i should add that for the same price as the base m3 macbook pro you can get a 4080 and a 14th gen i9 in a laptop if i recall correctly)

  • @Trashinated
    @Trashinated Před 7 měsíci +2864

    $1600 for 8GB of RAM just feels illegal.

    • @RandomGuy-rz1kq
      @RandomGuy-rz1kq Před 7 měsíci +275

      it should be illegal.

    • @sechan436
      @sechan436 Před 7 měsíci +32

      Well it IS

    • @f.i.b3027
      @f.i.b3027 Před 7 měsíci +53

      @@RandomGuy-rz1kq Capitalism.

    • @Xfacta12482
      @Xfacta12482 Před 7 měsíci +228

      @@f.i.b3027 Blames "Capitalism" while Capitalism is what is providing you the option to, idk... buy something else from a competitor?

    • @zerorig
      @zerorig Před 7 měsíci

      @@Xfacta12482 competition is what allows you get things from competitors.
      capitalist motives is what drives charging whatever you can get away with (proprietary OS and hardware helps a lot with this.)

  • @jivewig
    @jivewig Před 7 měsíci +1611

    The price point (with the RAM) is so stupid for M3 that it just doesn’t make sense when you have M3 Pro. And Apple knows it. Their price ladder is truly something.

    • @HandleName_CB
      @HandleName_CB Před 7 měsíci +45

      It does make sense. I dont think there is other competition can offer the same screen AND battery life AND performance. I know there are many products that can do OR at the price point, so I highlighted the ANDs.

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Před 7 měsíci +137

      It’s just Apple ripping off its customers as usual

    • @PeidosFTW
      @PeidosFTW Před 7 měsíci +75

      @@CricketEngland they have the opportunity to rip off because no other company can compete with their overall package

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Před 7 měsíci +81

      @@PeidosFTW no they have the right to sell their products at overpriced prices because idiots will pay that price.
      If people boycotted apple products and complained about the priced they would have to reduce them.

    • @sggsquadpresents
      @sggsquadpresents Před 7 měsíci +70

      400$ for 8GB of ddr5 ram is obscene when you can get a 30$ stick of 16GB DDR5 ram.

  • @Sneaadler
    @Sneaadler Před 7 měsíci +178

    I wanna thank the editor who FINALLY came up with the idea to highlight what stat he is talking about. After all these f-ing years

  • @keiz_
    @keiz_ Před 7 měsíci +273

    DO NOTE there are programs that won't touch efficiency cores at all, & will only use the performance including Apple's own Logic Pro, and many other DAWs. James Zhan did a great video showcasing this. In these cases the older M series chips actually do much better than the M3 series in some applications and workloads. Not sure as for video editing software.
    I'll be sticking with my 14" M1 Pro for a long time before I consider upgrading, and honestly depending on workloads the older ones may even be better (not just from a saving money perspective)

    • @ATTAproject
      @ATTAproject Před 7 měsíci +3

      Reaper uses them all

    • @bassyey
      @bassyey Před 7 měsíci +8

      That guy's test is flawed. He couldn't explain the dropout protections he used in other DAWs lol.

    • @TheBurntHoney
      @TheBurntHoney Před 7 měsíci +5

      I always generally stick with my apple product u til i get no more software updates.

    • @davidkorcak
      @davidkorcak Před 7 měsíci +2

      If you know anything about computers, you know this is impossible.

    • @TheBurntHoney
      @TheBurntHoney Před 7 měsíci

      @@davidkorcak i mena its what ive been doing with my apple products for all my life. I wait till i stop getting new software releases not security updates which is 5 for the phone and not sure about the laptops.

  • @insainllama
    @insainllama Před 7 měsíci +133

    The MacMinis continue to be the value kings in the Mac line up.

  • @Roboseal2
    @Roboseal2 Před měsícem +2

    1:36 you can buy (for $70) an Anker 717 charger that is 40% smaller than the apple one and still puts out 140W while also being cooler.

  • @zimbu_
    @zimbu_ Před 7 měsíci +70

    The problem with this one is that they're trying to sell you an 8 gig stick of RAM with 300% markup for you to get decent performance out of it. The way I see it, Apple currently has three laptop options: lowest spec M2 MacBook Air if you just want an Apple laptop, lowest spec M3Pro MacBook Pro if you want an Apple laptop with great performance (it's the cheapest option for a new base spec Apple laptop that doesn't come hampered by only 8gb RAM), and highest spec M3Ultra MacBook Pro if you simply want the best laptop Apple sells.

    • @TamasKiss-yk4st
      @TamasKiss-yk4st Před 7 měsíci +2

      And you are not realize the similarity with the SSD-HDD situation.. like the more expensive also has less max capacity and it's "only" faster. You are probably still using the SSD what is the Apple RAM in this situation, not the bigger capacity, cheaper, but way slower HDD, what is the DDR5 can offer you. You need at least 4channels DDR5 memory to reach that 200GB/sec, what i never saw in laptops..
      10-15 years ago there was a lot of people who cried for the same about the SSD, it was smaller and way more expensive like the HDD, but i bet that you are not using a HDD recently..

    • @neolordie
      @neolordie Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@TamasKiss-yk4stit's unified memory, if it doesn't go that far, your gpu would be slow as shit when used at the same time

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 7 měsíci

      Just but a 16gb refurb.

    • @ed61730
      @ed61730 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@NotADuncon I have the 16gb and 64gb for m1. 16 is not much at all and can slow down just with lots of web tabs

    • @NotADuncon
      @NotADuncon Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@ed61730 sorry but lol. It's a mistake on your part not 16gb being too little. Just use the plug in that sleeps unused tabs. I literally have 7 chrome windows with max visible tabs open and my 16gb M1 Air doesn't slow down at all.

  • @Longuro
    @Longuro Před 7 měsíci +21

    The best value per performance machine in the Apple Ecosystem is the base Mac Studio. I have the M1 Max version and will wait for the M3 Max version of it. My laptop is the cheapest M1 Macbook Air that I got on sale for $750 a few months ago and that thing is a beast for performance with no fan! The silent nature of that machine is something to behold. Getting sucked into the Apple price ladder is like an insect walking into a spider's web!

    • @unknownuser069
      @unknownuser069 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I agree the Studio is the best value. Especially considering the ports - and that you have to add a Thunderbolt dock to any of the Mac laptops to have a comparable solution.
      I seem to need more performance than you seem to need while mobile.
      I’ve only had it three weeks, but I already use it a lot more while out of the house/office than any other laptop or tablet - even my iPad Pro M1.
      So I have an M3 Max MacBook. “Scary fast” is a good descriptor. Perhaps more important is that it is also scary power efficient.
      For some cloud tasks my i7 3080 windows laptop will spin the fans to max. As a nonsense example Open CZcams in Chrome and scroll through your subscriptions with the play video in thumbnail feature on … lol. That can peg 4 cores and the GPU. Stupid.
      My Mac handles those sorts of tasks on JUST the efficiency cores. The performance cores and GPU are idle. Which is how all web/cloud tasks should be.
      Of all the cloud apps the only one I excuse for using power is Google Earth and other geospatial apps… they have to hit the internet radios.
      I do have a plan to get a Mac Studio as my next Mac though - a lot like you. I plan on getting an M6 Mac Studio Ultra - or wherever fills that approximate niche by that time.
      I suspect that, other than being bigger and heavier, my M3 Max MacBook will outperform even the newest Air for my work until it either fails or goes out of support.

    • @Machistmo
      @Machistmo Před 7 měsíci

      WoA has been around for 10 years at least.

  • @spinaltap22
    @spinaltap22 Před 7 měsíci +58

    Performance comparisons to M1 pro/max would have been nice. I picked up a refurbished M1 Max about 8 months ago....still the sweet spot I reckon.

    • @ugotisa
      @ugotisa Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yup now I am malding on the fact that why didn't I picked up m1 pro / m2 pro when they were still available.

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@ugotisayou can get them used or refurbished

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Let me know how that HDMI 2.1 is working for you. Oh, wait.

    • @rickywam
      @rickywam Před 7 měsíci +21

      @@rustler08 is this supposed to be a roast?

    • @spinaltap22
      @spinaltap22 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@rustler08 "What is Thunderbolt?"

  • @profX-27
    @profX-27 Před 7 měsíci +31

    while the M3 pro+ chips are better than the previous models, you have to ask yourself if the incremental performance boost is worth the price or even if it is needed. Will the M1 pro or M2 pro work for you? Probably.

    • @SA-xf7pc
      @SA-xf7pc Před 7 měsíci +3

      I mean you're paying (at least in europe) for a used baseline M1 MacBook 1100€. Might as well get a new one with much better performance.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Před 7 měsíci

      It depends. M3 Max has considerably huge performance boost (50-70 %) since M2 which had 20 % from M1. For people demanding high performance and huge advantage in unified memory (no problem to use large AI models due to that) it's the bomb. For video, audio, photo - not at all as video acceleration is same and photo and audio is not so demanding these days. Heck, you can work in Photoshop on basic M1 without problems, just get 16 GB of RAM

    • @SA-xf7pc
      @SA-xf7pc Před 7 měsíci

      @@ZhuJo99 it’s funny because you don’t even need 16GB for photoshop. So far the only thing that’s taking some time is the neural engine stuff in photoshop (at least based on my knowledge).

    • @mmonkeyman1403
      @mmonkeyman1403 Před 6 měsíci

      @@SA-xf7pcphotoshop neural engine is definitely the memory hog. 8GB is perfectly fine for the average user.
      16GB is what I’d personally want but if I was just doing normal desk work and browsing I’d have no issue with 8

    • @mrglasses8953
      @mrglasses8953 Před 4 měsíci

      No raytracing on M2 as far as I'm aware.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL Před 7 měsíci +71

    Although the prices are still a tough pill to swallow, the substantial performance improvements and excellent battery life are noteworthy. I also appreciate the shout-out to the M2 Mac Mini as an alternative for desktop users.

  • @baradhur3348
    @baradhur3348 Před 7 měsíci +91

    you should point out in your video the absolutely insane prices Apple charges for extra storage and ram. It is an absolute shame how much they charge for a 2Tb SSD compared to 512gb. That's the type of thing that makes me stay away from Apple. Seriously.

    • @unknownposter2075
      @unknownposter2075 Před 7 měsíci +18

      And yet, a crapton of people defend/approve of the price structure. As long as there’s strong support (purchases in this case) the pricing structure will continue to be steep.

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@unknownposter2075 because it's a good idea to use your laptop as a data dumpyard with TBs of data

    • @xpowerchord12088
      @xpowerchord12088 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Yes, Understandable. They have terrible pricing and are very anti-consumer. Now think of this in a vacuum. I have a Gaming PC and a Mac for pro work. Having a laptop with the equivalent of a 12700k with a 30w TDP is insane. Nobody has gotten this far ahead in the laptop game with a screen this good, cpu this powerful and efficient, and 20 hrs of casual use battery with full cpu power on tap and no fan spin. Yes apple sucks, but my Mac pays for itself in my projects and having the freedom to work in around the city. I get paid to use a computer, so I go with what can do the most without being stuck to a wall. Still love my gaming pc tho.

  • @JellyLancelot
    @JellyLancelot Před 7 měsíci +23

    Still have my M1 Pro 16”. Best laptop I’ve ever owned, and arguably will go down as one of the best laptops ever, and the M3 certainly isn’t tempting me yet. The M1 is like the 1080 of MacBooks, they made it too good lmao. Speakers, screen, performance, cooling, ports, lovely keyboard and trackpad, build quality, it has it all. Brilliant machine. I’m amazed at how much you have to throw at it to even make the chassis warm, let alone kick the fans in.

    • @Tim_M56
      @Tim_M56 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Agree completely with you. I bought a refurbished M1 Pro and it absolutely still kicks ass for anything I do with it. The redesign to these new chips at the time I think make it one of the best Apple laptops in a long time. I can’t imagine needing an upgrade for it for easily another 3-4 years, until the battery is probably depleted.

  • @dgochez
    @dgochez Před 7 měsíci +14

    A friend of mine just got an M2 Macbook air for xmas, It came with a 256gb hard drive. WTF! A 256gb hard drive on a new and expesive computer in 2023 is unacceptable. She filled it up in it's first day. Between a backup from another machine, the OS, and time machine cache, it was full in a day. And the SSD is welded to the MB so it's incrediby hard to upgrade.

    • @ntrixx
      @ntrixx Před 4 měsíci +1

      Welded😂

    • @dgochez
      @dgochez Před 4 měsíci

      @@ntrixx lol I meant soldered. Non native speaker here so sometimes I get lost in translation. But it is a funny mental image.

    • @beanmasterz
      @beanmasterz Před měsícem

      too late now, just buy a decent external SSD from Samsung, but now you gotta lug that around too

  • @ak_hoops
    @ak_hoops Před 7 měsíci +48

    Genuinely would love a video helping to understand how to best configure an M3 Pro OR what M2 Pro would be a good look (cost-performance). The different configurations are so confusing especially with regards to memory bandwidth and storage speed.
    (edit) it's on Mac Address

    • @disadadi8958
      @disadadi8958 Před 7 měsíci +1

      probably not going to happen. I'm sure someone else does better job at this, LTT doesn't aim for technical details and specific guides like that, at least not anymore.

    • @Fataha22
      @Fataha22 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Watch mac address then

    • @lopwidth7343
      @lopwidth7343 Před 7 měsíci

      Apple really dont care for you to spec it. You buy the base model of the one you want inside your budget

    • @ak_hoops
      @ak_hoops Před 7 měsíci

      Yup, I'm watching it now actually @@Fataha22

  • @Michi-go5xi
    @Michi-go5xi Před 7 měsíci +96

    1600 USD for 8GB RAM? I'll keep my 4th gen intel laptop

    • @edcdad1124
      @edcdad1124 Před 7 měsíci +9

      I'll stick to my wife's ancient hp stream 14 running lubuntu 😂😂

    • @pdblouin
      @pdblouin Před 7 měsíci +5

      I have no need for portability, but if I did, I feel like I’d have to overpay for RAM just to get that insane battery life. The pricing is really stupid though, no argument from me.

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Před 7 měsíci +5

      i have a 2011 dell workstation laptop with a 2960xm i7 (over 3.5g boost), 16gb 1600 ram, and a radeon r9 m290x 4g card, 1080 display, backlit keyboard, fantastic machine. the cpu keeps up with the 7700HQ i7 in most tests, even though it's 5 gens older. intel just didn't progress at all..... hell, even the old battery still holds on this rig. so overbuilt!

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 Před 7 měsíci

      because RAM size is all that matters🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @rgb2296
      @rgb2296 Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@RandomUser2401 No,but u can't upgrade it. so it matters here

  • @DctrGizmo
    @DctrGizmo Před 7 měsíci +296

    Imagine paying $1,600 for a laptop with 8gb of ram 🤣

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid Před 7 měsíci +55

      Combined RAM and VRAM no less!

    • @rezz5570
      @rezz5570 Před 7 měsíci +9

      i'm a clown 🤡

    • @jolness1
      @jolness1 Před 7 měsíci +10

      They need to upgrade the base memory and storage but I have to admit the custom arm core they have is remarkable. My job bought me an M1 Pro with 32GB of memory and it’s a monster for code compiling. I have my issues with apple, lots of them but it’s hard to deny how fast even a base model air feels.

    • @vanCaldenborgh
      @vanCaldenborgh Před 7 měsíci +1

      @jolness1 Indeed, at least looking at performance per Watt .

    • @billx4266
      @billx4266 Před 7 měsíci +7

      its 2200 euro here in.... europe

  • @2nd-place
    @2nd-place Před 7 měsíci +7

    I have the M3 Max 16 core and it’s a beast and the battery life lasts forever and the fans hardly ever turn on.

    • @zimboiii9025
      @zimboiii9025 Před 7 měsíci +2

      How does it feel paying $400 for 8GB of RAM?

    • @markclayton8977
      @markclayton8977 Před 7 měsíci

      @@zimboiii9025 I paid $1000 for 128GB. Compare that to a windows laptop with 128GB which costs... nothing, they don't exist 😂

    • @Stealth_Pilot
      @Stealth_Pilot Před 7 měsíci

      @@zimboiii9025 Base m3 max comes with 48 gb ram and a 1tb ssd

    • @Strangetbh
      @Strangetbh Před 7 měsíci

      @@zimboiii9025if they bought an m3 max instead of a higher end windows laptop they don’t care about price to performance

  • @BBROPHOTO
    @BBROPHOTO Před 7 měsíci +8

    A really small minor change from the M2 to the M3 MacBooks is that they've very very slightly rounded off the edges of the USB C ports. On the M2 they've completely sharp and some people would scuff them up (not me hah) so on the M3 they've rounded them to minimise wear.

  • @CyberTweaker
    @CyberTweaker Před 7 měsíci +7

    That was a substantially substantial review full of subtance!

    • @dtemp132
      @dtemp132 Před 7 měsíci

      They flat out say they don't do reviews on this channel, just first impressions.

    • @CyberTweaker
      @CyberTweaker Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@dtemp132 someone needs more jokes in his life!

    • @nathan7401
      @nathan7401 Před 7 měsíci

      More substance than Apple's generational updates.

  • @vladislave7826
    @vladislave7826 Před 7 měsíci +10

    When the ssd nand kicks the bucket - the whole laptop will. It used to be that you could use an external ssd for the os, in the event that the internal one fails, but now apple are using the nand for some bios components, so it won’t even post when it dies.

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 Před 7 měsíci +4

      how often does this actually happens besides the idiotic panicking on the internet?

    • @spacer125
      @spacer125 Před 7 měsíci +5

      With 8Gb of ram, the OS will page file on the SSD, wearing it out hundreds of times faster than with more RAM. Killing the whole device

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@spacer125 except
      a) paging happens a lot less with macOS memory mgmt
      b) despite all disaster predictions about failing SSDs in Macbooks for years, nothing has actually happened

  • @ryanmartinage
    @ryanmartinage Před 7 měsíci +1

    Regardless of the price increments, fact is it’s worth it in a way. The amount of power, quality of screen, and battery life is wild. Deals are out there too. I got my m3 pro 16” with the 36gb ram from Best Buy for $1k off.. $780 from open box plus an additional 10% given by the manager. For that price, it’s worth it in spades and is why I jumped on it. No windows machine can come close to it. Once you get used to the battery life, silent operation in combo with the power.. it’s pretty good. Soon as windows can compete with snapdragon x or similar, I’ll probably slide back over but for now, I’m really enjoying it.

  • @ThisToLink
    @ThisToLink Před 7 měsíci +15

    Has Jake lost weight? Hes looking good.

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Před 7 měsíci

      possibly. his jawline does look a little sharper. thumbs up for keeping in shape and healthy

  • @broccoloodle
    @broccoloodle Před 5 měsíci +1

    20% improvement in single core, 35% improvement in multi core and he said it's "quite substantial". no, it's huge, incredible, crazy for a year to year improvement

  • @sasadragicevic9566
    @sasadragicevic9566 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'm always amazed when I hear people from US and Canada saying Macs are expensive, add 50-60% more to that price and you get the price in Serbia then just compare the income... :D

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Před 7 měsíci

      Prices in USA are without taxes and import fees. Add that, fees to keep "social state" bullshit (pay for those who don't want to work) and you'll get the same price.

    • @sasadragicevic9566
      @sasadragicevic9566 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@ZhuJo99 I get the taxes in US it's strage but I get it(not knowing the full price until you get to checkout) but it's still cheaper otherwise people from here wouldn't ask their relatives in US to buy for them(guilty).
      Got the m1 max for 4500$(64gb RAM, 4TB storage) same was 7200$ here.
      Add purchasing power parity to that equation and shit gets real, don't get me wrong, not saying Macs are cheap for anyone, just feels strange when someone from US or Canada or West Europe says it. 😁

  • @gaiustacitus4242
    @gaiustacitus4242 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I was a bit disappointed by the packaging on my new 16" M3 Pro Max. The seals on the box were intact, but the wrapper on the MacBook wasn't tightly secured and the top had two fingerprint smudges on it. I can't explain why, but I felt like I should be the first to put fingerprint smudges on its space black surface. For as much as I spent on it, the experience should have been as good as all 7 of my previous Macs and a host of other Apple devices (all of which I still have, including the original packaging).

    • @Biru_to
      @Biru_to Před 7 měsíci +1

      That just might be related to them doing a retake, inbound checking, etc.

    • @gaiustacitus4242
      @gaiustacitus4242 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Biru_to That wouldn't be possible given that the boxes are sealed at the factory and the seals were fully intact.

    • @Biru_to
      @Biru_to Před 7 měsíci

      @@gaiustacitus4242 I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the video, and that they had finger prints in the video on them. You're right though, I'd be a bit disappointed about that too myself. When you buy something new, you expect to be unpacking a clean product. I hope you'll be enjoying your laptop regardless ☺

    • @dustyshouri
      @dustyshouri Před 7 měsíci

      They absolutely open up most things on short circuit beforehand and repackage it as close as possible to the original packaging to give the impression of a fresh open box experience. They do this to set up everything and have it ready to go as soon as they open it, not to mention they already had the labs results from testing it.

    • @Biru_to
      @Biru_to Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@dustyshouri he's talking about his personal Mac he got though

  • @AAllinsonNN
    @AAllinsonNN Před 7 měsíci +5

    We all know Jake really just wants the new MacBook so he can have the moniker, M3…. From one bmw fan boy to another, I get it, Jake (;

  • @lukebradshaw2216
    @lukebradshaw2216 Před 7 měsíci +12

    A comparison between how well the three laptops run Asahi Linux would be super interesting!

    • @FayezButts
      @FayezButts Před 7 měsíci

      Is that even possible to install on apple silicon?

    • @lukebradshaw2216
      @lukebradshaw2216 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@FayezButts Asahi Linux is specifically for Apple Silicon Macs

    • @elliott8175
      @elliott8175 Před 7 měsíci

      @@lukebradshaw2216 'Not sure that m3 is supported yet, though.

  • @yewo.m
    @yewo.m Před 7 měsíci +3

    With lower memory bandwidth, less performance cores, and bad RAM and SSD pricing, it might just be better value to get an M2, which will likely also be easier to find on sale

  • @garydeluce464
    @garydeluce464 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Listen, Macs are great but Jake; do the right thing and stick with the Framework. You know what you need to do. I love my FW13

  • @quickcinemarecap
    @quickcinemarecap Před 7 měsíci +25

    00:01 Apple's new MacBook M3 Pro could be a competitor for other laptops.
    01:22 Comparison of features and design of MacBook Pro models.
    02:43 MacBook Pro M3 offers Thunderbolt 4 and USB 4 support
    03:52 MacOS differences and comparison between M2 Pro and M3 Pro
    05:12 MacBook Pro M3 has no av1 encoding and similar display to M2
    06:36 MacBook Pro M3 offers improved performance and display quality
    08:03 New MacBook Pro M3 offers impressive battery life and faster performance
    09:19 New MacBook Pro is expensive but powerful.

  • @stevey.iPhone13mini
    @stevey.iPhone13mini Před 7 měsíci +2

    serious question: my $1400 windows laptop runs all games (cyberpunk, starfield, dying light 2 yadda yadda) except fallout 76 maxed (fallout's almost maxed), how much would I have to pay for a macbook that does the same?

    • @JoshuaWebbb
      @JoshuaWebbb Před 6 měsíci

      this argument is ridiculous. i am a windows guy, but macs are a production monster, not a gaming machine, they would both dominate each other, in their own respective fields

  • @FinalLightNL
    @FinalLightNL Před 7 měsíci +51

    I bought the m3 16” for work and some entertainment movie series watching as i am staying abroad for half a year. I just do web dev so i got the 18gb ram one it’s amazing ngl.. the battery life and speakers are insane for a notebook. The screen is just splendid nothing bad to say about it

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Před 7 měsíci +22

      of you can afford it, the new pros are just ridiculously good machines. im pc hardcore, but i do love seeing what apple has been able to do with this new architecture. it's a fantastic design with awesome power.

    • @leonro
      @leonro Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes, the screen and battery life are amazing - nothing beats these in the Windows world, though speakers on some models can also be comparable, and displays also if we ignore dimming zone count (~1K on flagship Windows laptops compared to ~2.5K on this one).
      But I just cannot see myself spending so much money on such an unreliable brand that exorts you for any sort of memory or storage upgrades. If they were more repairable or didn't take as much of a margin on such items that should be commodity at this point, I would have strongly considered a mac.

    • @sebas.rozmary
      @sebas.rozmary Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@leonroI bought my first apple MBP M2…. Sold it after a week. The screen is very fragile… it is the panel then a ‘film’ on it. No hard plastic or anything… so basically it’s very fragile. A fingernail can scratch it… a breadcrumb when closing can break it. Replacement under warranty? No apple says ‘yeah we know it can break, but a crumb when closing is your fault, therefore no warranty’. Ridiculous!!!!
      No windows laptop has this issue, just widen the gap between the panel and the keyboard… Nope, just a margin thinner than a a4 paper. So a plastic screen protector puts pressure on the panel. And can break the panel as well.
      I miss that machine, that ONE flaw… broke my heart 😢

    • @leonro
      @leonro Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@sebas.rozmary Windows laptops can have the same issue, it's just that such models don't enjoy nearly the same praise as Macbooks because there's competition that does it better. Neither does any other manufacturer enjoy the same amount of disregard or even reverence for products that are overpriced or have design defects. To this day, people keep thinking of Steve Jobs as some awesome dude when he couldn't commit to properly raise his daughter or admit his parenthood, even after he insisted on naming her and taking a DNA test.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@sebas.rozmary never had issues with glass on macbooks. If you behave to it like a piece of brick, sure, but I wouldn't throw such machine like it's a brick. People are using keyboard covers too like idiots and then cry over broken glass.

  • @tdata545
    @tdata545 Před 7 měsíci +1

    THEY HAVE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THOSE PRICES. This is why I never can get behind Apple. Seriously? 7K fully kitted out. I think I built my ALIENWARE with the desktop i9 (think it was 10th gen) and desktop 2080 for 3200. Then I upgraded the ram to 128GB and 16TB of storage via the two M.2 Bays for about $5,000. That was with REAL parts, not ARM parts. Sure you don't get the whole battery life thing out of it, but power is probably on par if not better, definitely GPU wise.

  • @st33ldi9ital
    @st33ldi9ital Před 7 měsíci +12

    The m3 is two step forwards one step back… some of it is good, some of it isn’t.. overall I’d sit this gen out and wait for the next..

  • @sebas.rozmary
    @sebas.rozmary Před 7 měsíci +1

    Don’t do it… retina screen scratches with just a fingernail. A crumb can crack the thin and fragile screen panel… replacement 800usd

  • @joonglegamer9898
    @joonglegamer9898 Před 7 měsíci +18

    The thing that always puzzle me about these new product review videos is that they never seem to focus on use cases. It's always about ooh, ahh, 1mm thinner, specs, speed on paper, but never actual use case scenarios. It's all about the fanboyism and oh consumerism - must have the next gen - because - next gen!

    • @litebkt
      @litebkt Před 7 měsíci +3

      I suspect that the average user won’t be able to tell the difference between models.

    • @jakub7244
      @jakub7244 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Because those are not reviews, but basically ads with extra steps.

    • @IMindiffernt
      @IMindiffernt Před 7 měsíci +4

      This channel isn't really for reviews unfortunately

    • @liamsz
      @liamsz Před 7 měsíci +1

      Because this is an *unboxing* channel, this is an unboxing video, not a review.

  • @shaneilellis9832
    @shaneilellis9832 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The truth apple laptops are tempting.

  • @hailynewma9122
    @hailynewma9122 Před 7 měsíci +55

    apple will not ever tempt me before they properly honor the right to repair!

    • @megaprimegamer1184
      @megaprimegamer1184 Před 7 měsíci +2

      What do u wanna really repair on a laptop?

    • @string_phoenix
      @string_phoenix Před 7 měsíci +20

      @@megaprimegamer1184 battery, RAM, storage, keyboard, display, fingerprint sensor, trackpad, need I say more?

    • @Chairman_Wang
      @Chairman_Wang Před 7 měsíci +6

      ​@@string_phoenix you don't, you think you do but you don't.
      There are actually tons of laptops already that you can easily get replacement parts from and they all end up being thrown away. Right to repair is just too optimistic. Consumers don't care.

    • @megaprimegamer1184
      @megaprimegamer1184 Před 7 měsíci

      @@string_phoenix you do understand Apple’s product and business model right? All those parts you mentioned are already good as is Swapping oem parts for third party versions is a recipe for failure in terms of security, reliability and product quality.
      Apple doesn’t state it obviously but their products are catered to people who don’t want to deal with stuff like that. That usually includes most people in developed countries cause that’s where the revenue is. Not the 1% who tinker or the developing countries.
      In my teenage and early twenties I fiddled around with pc hardware a lot. Now I just play on console because it just works. That’s all I need. My first laptop was a MacBook because I knew it would just work as intended. From 2017, the battery to the screen all work flawlessly. My office thinkpad t15 is just as expensive and like 2 years old but is frustrating sometimes. Windows is average for convenience. Screen is mid. Keyboard is ok. Trackpad is ok. Battery is ridiculously average. The 2017 mbp is better than this.
      Of course if it were to break I’d pay more for repair but so would I on a BMW. That’s the price you pay for quality. They aren’t a 3 trillion company for no reason 🤷‍♂️

    • @crashdude7589
      @crashdude7589 Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@Chairman_Wanglol, just because 37 year old married mother house wife Susan doesn’t want to open her laptop doesn’t me we don’t.

  • @Kappie0312
    @Kappie0312 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Crazy prices. But, as long as the "whales" keep buying them at those prices, they will always try and push the bounderies. Sadly..

  • @pr33tu_
    @pr33tu_ Před 7 měsíci +16

    Seeing this reaffirms my choice in silver macbooks

    • @orMung
      @orMung Před 7 měsíci +4

      Reject modernity, embrace tradition.

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Před 7 měsíci +1

      i like slate colored items, but i do kinda like the regular silver aluminum look over this. it feels sleeker i think

    • @matthewyeomans7106
      @matthewyeomans7106 Před 7 měsíci

      I always went with "space grey" but years in I really think the smartest buy is silver. Without anodized aluminum, you are way less likely to see wear / scratches, though I did get the super cool "DLC" on the watch and iphone 15, they call it diamond-like carbon but its basically a superior physical vapor deposition that is crazy resilient and inky black. Never once got a scratch on my S5 steel watch or iphone 15 pro but it is perpetually covered in finger prints lol

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood Před 7 měsíci +2

    These are friggin' expensive for literally not being upgradeable after purchase. Honestly you'd hope the laptop outlives you for the price you pay!

  • @DomViktor
    @DomViktor Před 7 měsíci +6

    After deciding to replace my old intel macbook with a new computer, I decided to get a windows PC. I just couldn't justify buying an 8GB ram laptop. It sucks that most retailers only carry 8GB ram versions, so it's rare to see a good deal on 16GB ram variants. Until apple makes the leap to make 16GB ram the base, I'll hold off on buying a macbook.

    • @ryanhamstra49
      @ryanhamstra49 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It just depends what you are using it for. Most office work doesn’t use that much ram. And SSd’s are so fast now that if it has to cash a few PDFs you won’t even notice. My wife is a teacher and has had no issues with having 8g when she is doing class prep and has 30 tabs open and a dozen PDF’s and word docs. If you are doing video or photos then yeah you need the ram, but macOS just doesn’t need the ram windows does. My tower will barely run with 8g, let alone do any actual work. My 32 is barely enough for video editing.

    • @DomViktor
      @DomViktor Před 7 měsíci

      @@ryanhamstra49 Definitely does depend on the person's use, and in 80% of my use I'm okay with the 8gb ram. The other 20% would definitely would like more. And ram aside, storage alone was enough for me to go get a PC.

    • @andreaslassak2111
      @andreaslassak2111 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ryanhamstra49 for sw. development is 16gb min, better 32gb.

    • @chsi5420
      @chsi5420 Před 7 měsíci

      Retailers carry the cheapest models so they can push volume. 90% of Macbook users buy a $1000 laptop to do what a $300 laptop could. Apple used to make computers, but now they make accessories with a computer in them. The iPad is goo though.

  • @horuslupercal3872
    @horuslupercal3872 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Grabbed an M2 pro 16” at Best Buy for 1400 still shocked I was able to get it at that price, expensive yes but justifiable, I was originally going to buy a open box Lenovo legion slim 7

  • @aquilafasciata5781
    @aquilafasciata5781 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Nothing is a proper competitor to Framework (except maybe old Thinkpads) but LEAST of all is the MacBook. You can upgrade framework memory 😊

    • @dspirea
      @dspirea Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yeah no one cross shops that dogwater framework laptop with a prosumer machine from Apple. Relax

  • @Kris2340k
    @Kris2340k Před 7 měsíci +1

    I dont understand people that KNOW that machine wont last 5+ years WELL
    But off they go to fork out 2k for them?
    Even if they are usable, dust free, repasted, re-batteried and scratch/dent free after five whole years, do you really need that much power to lug around.
    I get by with a quad core intel 6000 series tablet and it does normal stuff and cost 200... (was actually 80 broken)
    People really want power they wont use 80% of the time vs dropping 80% the value of their laptop

  • @stefanoliveira8718
    @stefanoliveira8718 Před 7 měsíci +13

    I'm assuming most people who are willing to shell this kind of money, are gonna hold onto these laptops for more than a few years. For example, I have the 16" M3 Pro MacBook Pro, which replaced my 2015 MacBook, and I can see myself holding onto this laptop for the rest of this decade easily, and prob even into the 2030's.

    • @spicy_mint
      @spicy_mint Před 7 měsíci +1

      8 years sounds about normal tbh
      hell, I'm still using my asus laptop from 2014
      top spec from back then and still has no issues doing what I need to do, just upgraded storage, battery and ram over time
      hell of a lot cheaper than the cheapest Macbook from the time as well

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz Před 7 měsíci

      Depends. If you trade in your mac you can upgrade a lot cheaper

    • @-Burb
      @-Burb Před 7 měsíci +2

      Same for me, went with the 14" M3 Pro Macbook Pro and can't imagine upgrading it for many many years. For anyone on M1 or M2 already it's not really worth the upgrade because those are already great. It really seems like these M3s are really only for new silicon Mac buyers, they really made the original M1 too good.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I replace every year. Less value loss, resale goes to my pocket as I bought it into my own company for tax deductions. After one year it's written off the company inventory and can sell it for low loss of value while those money are mine, not company's (so I don' have to pay taxes like when company pays me a wage).
      So, tax deductions each year, huge resale value so I just pay a difference and buy new.
      No reason to keep it for so long and then again pay full price

  • @Vladuzk
    @Vladuzk Před 7 měsíci +1

    More informative than the macadress video but no mention of the differences between the pro and max configuration? I need a new one and still don’t know which one to buy..

    • @mihirsrivastava8472
      @mihirsrivastava8472 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The M3 Max has a much bigger performance increase - around 50-70% for the CPU and GPU each - and can have a lot more RAM so it's actually really competitive with the highest end laptop chips. If you need the most power possible in a laptop go for that, otherwise the M3 Pro should be good enough.

  • @giff74
    @giff74 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I enjoy videos where Jake it serious.

  • @koma7778
    @koma7778 Před 7 měsíci +1

    "Don't tempt me, Frodo" - Gandalf

  • @averagegamer7386
    @averagegamer7386 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Is it me or has Jake started to look like a younger but buffier Linus. Is Linus his real dad?

    • @ChodaBoyUSA
      @ChodaBoyUSA Před 7 měsíci

      😉

    • @norkshit
      @norkshit Před 7 měsíci +3

      Jake is also starting to look like a younger Luke. Is Luke his real mom?

    • @billx4266
      @billx4266 Před 7 měsíci

      take your med, you need it

  • @phaldaz
    @phaldaz Před 7 měsíci +1

    Is my boi slimming up too?! Beard coming thru as well. Good looks all around!

  • @Arcticstar0
    @Arcticstar0 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I still don’t regret telling my brother to get an M1 MacBook Pro instead of the M2 MacBook Air. It only cost 200AUD more, but with better ports, display, performance, etc. Fits all his requirements and should last a while.
    M3 Pro is tempting, but I really can’t justify upgrading my M1 Pro yet. I still love that machine.

    • @thermoflaskcat121
      @thermoflaskcat121 Před 7 měsíci

      agreed, i just bought an m1 pro like a month ago via apple refurbished and its amazing.

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah unless you’re looking for more gaming performance or 3d rendering, there’s not much of a point

  • @TheBassMaster56
    @TheBassMaster56 Před 4 měsíci +1

    North Americas complaining about Apple pricing. Please, come to Europe and buy a few, see what the real price spike is.

  • @Zero
    @Zero Před 7 měsíci +5

    "will see it in the lab testing" I keep hearing this but when are these results going to be shown at all?

  • @michaeljeacock
    @michaeljeacock Před 7 měsíci +1

    we can't tell you exactly how long the cables are. we have a lab but we don't have a tape measure.

  • @PoofyisDead
    @PoofyisDead Před 7 měsíci +7

    Tbh I liked this review more than the mac address one, objective graphs and performance charts mixed with some opinions is what i expect if the ltt team

  • @Ak353-d7u
    @Ak353-d7u Před 5 měsíci +1

    how are they able to use thunderbolt 4 without intel chip?

  • @vincelongman3264
    @vincelongman3264 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Great hardware/software, but terrible RAM+storage prices. Wait for the M4 series if possible. Once Qualcomm's X Elite (and AMD's Zen5/Intel's Lunar Lake) come out, Apple won't be able to get away with skimping on RAM+storage

    • @Frank72364
      @Frank72364 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Truth: That won't change anything.

    • @eulehund99
      @eulehund99 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Frank72364it will IF it gets some attention and laptop makers decide to use AMD and ARM.
      Even right now, the 7840U from AMD has approximately 70% of an M2 10 Core Pros efficiency while having basically the same performance. It's a great chip (equal to the Z1 Extreme which is in many handhelds), but again, not many high end laptops use AMD. It's a shame that Intel still mainly dominates the Laptop Windows Market with their bad chips.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Snapdragon X has high power draw (no efficiency cores) and at 80 W and 12 performance cores (no efficiency again) shows much lower benchmark values than M3 Pro. Which has a crazy battery life.
      GPU? Well, Qualcomm is rather silent about it and they know why.
      So you'll get same loud, crappy throttling thing on battery with much worse battery life and less performance than macbook or higher end AMD laptops.
      With almost no native software (Windows translation layer can't even compare to rosetta 2).
      snapdragon X is too late, too little. It's just a scaled down server processor Nuvia had in development. While all Apple Silicon processors are scaled UP from Ax from iPhone.
      I have a feeling this is the first and last attempt of Qualcomm in desktop/laptop class processors. This is really not the way how to do it.

    • @vincelongman3264
      @vincelongman3264 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ZhuJo99 The 80W version is overclocked so they can try compete with Intel/AMD while only producing 1 die, instead of 3 dies like Apple. It may work if Qualcomm has enough of a uArch advantage, but probably unlikely. The 23W version of the X Elite will be the one to watch. The 23W version will have better CPU performance than the M3 at essentially the same power consumption and fewer transistors (i.e. hopefully similar price) (although the M3 will have slightly faster GPU)

    • @bastienx8
      @bastienx8 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The problem of Qualcomm (and the future Intel/AMD) is Windows. Even if the chip is as efficient as an M3, Windows is asking for more computation than macOS to do the same thing on light/medium loads like browsing internet, reading/writing docs, watching videos, switching between multiple background apps, editing photos, coding...
      But I hope that qualcomm will be able to catch up to reduce the insane upgrade price on apple silicon

  • @Holycurative9610
    @Holycurative9610 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I picked up a brand new laptop recently. i9 12th gen, RTX3070, 1TB Nvme with expansion for up to 2TB SSD, 32GB of ram, 144Hz 1080p screen at 17.3" and an extra 32GB ram stick to bump to 64GB of ram. This whole lot cost me under GB£1250 and has a full warranty and is brand new from a big retailer here in the UK so why would I spend double/triple that to get an Apple laptop. Battery life is bad, 2 hours web browsing, cos it's a gaming laptop🤨 but my laptop very rarely has to run on battery so that doesn't worry me. I don't get why an Apple is an attractive proposition especially considering their soldered on SSD and ram and the price of upgrading said parts. Please convince me why I should buy an overpriced Apple??

  • @MudSluggerBP
    @MudSluggerBP Před 7 měsíci +10

    Got the MacBook Pro M3 Pro, 18gb Ram, really good laptop imo 👍🏻

    • @jimtipton8888
      @jimtipton8888 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Same, love it! It's a work horse!

    • @-Burb
      @-Burb Před 7 měsíci +2

      Also love mine, the amazing keyboard, touchpad, speakers, and display are something that I've never really had before since I always went for cheap gaming laptops with only good internal specs. Makes a huge difference. Also having a Unix OS feels like a dream for my programming work, always having to dual-boot to Linux from Windows to get anything done was a pain.

  • @BriscoelabMN
    @BriscoelabMN Před 7 měsíci +1

    So happy for some Jake time. Not as jaded as MacAddress :)

  • @kiwee4577
    @kiwee4577 Před 7 měsíci +4

    For me the biggest robbery is the CPU has more efficieny cores than performance cores. In music production i find this as a major step back from M1 chips

  • @myd4980
    @myd4980 Před 4 měsíci

    In where I live, one of the Apple resellers offer the 16GB 14 inch M3 Macbook Pro for the same price as the 8GB so it is $1600. And at this rate I think it becomes a reasonable machine.

  • @JimmiezD
    @JimmiezD Před 7 měsíci +10

    I got a M3 Pro last week for $1750 just for the extra ram

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Před 7 měsíci

      Hardly, max memory size for M3 Pro is 36 GB which is 400 USD more

    • @JimmiezD
      @JimmiezD Před 7 měsíci

      @@ZhuJo99 B&H were on sale last month and Best Buy price matched them.

    • @JimmiezD
      @JimmiezD Před 7 měsíci

      It’s the baseline M3 Pro. I have my pc for gaming and Mac for creative use. I enjoy a lot especially the battery life.

  • @TraneFrancks
    @TraneFrancks Před 7 měsíci

    The issue of the fewer performance cores and greater number of efficiency cores vs the M2 Pro is important for music creatives who use Logic Pro or Ableton Live. If you're using those apps and you're making projects with hundreds of tracks and plugins, it's important to note that most of the DAW apps out there don't make good use of the efficiency cores. So, unless you're using something like Cubase, your shiny M3 Pro will hit its performance limit in the DAW sooner than will an equivalent M2 Pro. If you're like me and your projects are smaller, the M3 Pro will likely be absolutely fine regardless of your choice of DAW.

    • @R3endevous
      @R3endevous Před 7 měsíci

      Ok, so how many profrssionals will get the M3 Pro for their hundred tracks and plugins. I figure you’d hit other bottleneck first before those P- cores hit their limits

    • @TraneFrancks
      @TraneFrancks Před 7 měsíci

      @@R3endevous That's not a question I can answer. It's just a space that I follow because of the music I make. Certainly, I've seen the performance limit errors in Logic on Intel enough times to have it permanently flagged in my mind.
      Probably a more meaningful warning is: If you're hitting performance limits in M2 Pro, you're not going to be rescued by upgrading to M3 Pro. The interesting (and disappointing) thing for me is that Logic Pro doesn't make use of the efficiency cores as well as a competitor (Cubase) does. That just shouldn't be the case, IMO.

  • @FARBerserker
    @FARBerserker Před 7 měsíci +4

    So . . 10% more Specs, twice the price?

    • @f.i.b3027
      @f.i.b3027 Před 7 měsíci +1

      If you haven't realized, the price brackets aren't linear in any situation.

    • @murtadha96
      @murtadha96 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Twice the price of what?

  • @michaelbabiuk8758
    @michaelbabiuk8758 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I ordered my Space Black M3 Pro 14" MBP (36 GB ram?1 TB SSD) on first day of availability and have been using it since Nov 8th. Succinctly, it is fast, quiet (never have heard the fans) and powerful (with all that ram and even while running a Win 11 on ARM - Parallels Desktop vm, no memory SWAP has ever been allocated/used.) Can't ask for a better "all around" modern laptop, IMO.

  • @ActionManXVI
    @ActionManXVI Před 7 měsíci +5

    got my first ever macbook, m3 pro and its fantastic. The perfect laptop in every sense, except i need to learn how to use macOS lol

  • @SpidermanandJeny
    @SpidermanandJeny Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would think of getting apple products if their prices weren't beyond absurd. But Windows and Android and many price points exist, so it's not even close to an issue.

  • @PolarDog
    @PolarDog Před 7 měsíci +3

    We have M3 and M3 Pro, but where the M3 E36, E46 and E92 at?

    • @TheXshot
      @TheXshot Před 7 měsíci +3

      The only M3's that matter :(

    • @edcdad1124
      @edcdad1124 Před 7 měsíci

      All m3 lives matter

  • @sturdybutter
    @sturdybutter Před 7 měsíci +1

    That price on the top spec model actually made me gag

  • @RadaSmada
    @RadaSmada Před 7 měsíci +4

    I'm so close to switching to apple laptops, but their ram and storage prices are so fucked its actually insane

  • @prerakshah8103
    @prerakshah8103 Před 7 měsíci

    something is wrong with the audio in this video, or have my earphones broken, I'll check another video and see if it's your video or my earphones.
    Update:- I played Julian Casablancas+The Voidz - Human Sadness (Official Audio) and there was no problem with the audio. This video has some sort of buzzing sound somewhere!!!

  • @lchanceiv
    @lchanceiv Před 7 měsíci +4

    Love apple products, but the ram and sdd upgrades are bonkers.

  • @maxmouse3
    @maxmouse3 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's a great machine but not a substantial upgrade from M2. Specially the upgrade prices and the price ladder.
    AV1 decode is cool, I imagine it helps on battery life and performance while watching videos :D

    • @Neuzahnstein
      @Neuzahnstein Před 7 měsíci

      We are at the beginning and if their is the question if it is worth it. Compared to m2

  • @pumapg3d285
    @pumapg3d285 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I just bought bought a 14” macbook pro m3, and I love it

  • @seoulipsism
    @seoulipsism Před 6 měsíci

    I'm waiting for TSMC to bring their N3P-node 3nm SOCs into mass production. Apple made too many trade-offs by buying up the N3E-node process, hence the plethora of binned chips in the M3 range, presumed to bring the 3nm M3 to market, as 3nm SOCs was obviously delayed by global supply chain shortages and the drought in Taiwan, which reduced fab yields on silicon wafers. Until then, I am still very happy with my M1 Macs.

  • @dreamqore
    @dreamqore Před 7 měsíci +14

    Apple casually ripping people off is wild 💀

    • @unknownposter2075
      @unknownposter2075 Před 7 měsíci +2

      And a lot of people defending the overall structure

  • @OnlySourSauce
    @OnlySourSauce Před 7 měsíci

    3:52 the beat changes and I know exactly why, cheeky transition editors. I know what song you were referring to lol

  • @MrNeck89
    @MrNeck89 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Every time I watch an Apple device video I end up liking my PC more and more, it's awesome feels great 😂

    • @ericf3688
      @ericf3688 Před 7 měsíci

      what laptop do you have that you think is better than the laptops with silicon? All PC options are ridiculously expensive for really crap product, at least all the ones we've tried thus far. so what do you recommend I'd check?

    • @eulehund99
      @eulehund99 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@ericf3688get one with a Ryzen 7 7840U. Closest chip to the M Series (approximately 70% efficiency and same performance of a M2 Pro 10 Core).
      The ones I can think of right now are Zenbook S13 OLED (I think 14" and 16" exist too) and HP Elitebook.

    • @liamsz
      @liamsz Před 7 měsíci

      @@ericf3688 all pc options have "silicon" lmao

    • @ericf3688
      @ericf3688 Před 7 měsíci

      @@liamsz Apple Silicon M series vs Intel. I hope you were just being facetious, because "funny" it wasn't.

  • @CruzMonrreal
    @CruzMonrreal Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wow. Sounds like at those prices, it's time to short Apple.
    $7k for a laptop is just NUTS

    • @SamiNami
      @SamiNami Před 7 měsíci

      It's not really ment for poor people. It's for the higher classes.

  • @thesaucepd
    @thesaucepd Před 7 měsíci +3

    I’m have the honor to be one of the first people to see this video from this wonderful channel.

    • @thesaucepd
      @thesaucepd Před 7 měsíci

      Btw: there is no music credits

  • @Kjaywest
    @Kjaywest Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have an M2 Pro and love it. I will not trade it for the world at all. I will be using this laptop for years to come to do multiple different things and until a better one comes along I will upgrade.

    • @13Maur
      @13Maur Před 7 měsíci +5

      i have the m1 pro and i love this thing to death. i only play wow as well and it runs at 120 ("5" preset 3456x2234) at most content. Gets choked up in big cities and events, but even my desktop cant handle that. Also it helped a bunch that i got it on down payment with 0% interest.

  • @dj4aces
    @dj4aces Před 7 měsíci +13

    If these were priced competitively with similar x86 laptops, and I just happened to be in the market for one? Sure. I'd consider it.
    They're not. Apple has products I want to like that are priced at a level that keeps me from liking them.

    • @murtadha96
      @murtadha96 Před 7 měsíci

      They are not priced similarly to x86 laptops because they are generally better than x86 laptops, and Apple knows that so they are taking advantage of it. That's the reality of it. No x86 Windows laptop even comes close to the efficiency of those machines, which is kinda important for a portable machine. Plus, Windows is utter garbage. I daily drive both Windows and MacOS and Windows is truly dog water grade.

    • @Glornak
      @Glornak Před 7 měsíci

      For what they are the base models are decently priced. Office machines with high resolution screens. However the second you want to play a game, do creative work, or connect to multiple monitors you'll need to upgrade and upgraded Apple laptops are stupidly overpriced. Price to performance almost immediately falls short once you pay for any of the improvements and the storage prices are unforgivable when most other laptops still ship with an extra M.2 slot available.

    • @Biru_to
      @Biru_to Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@murtadha96 If all you care about is efficiency, you might want to consider a tablet. If you care about productivity, you might want to consider a Windows laptop. Enjoy your 8GB of ram on MacOS, and pay the Apple tax. If Apple truly were this amazing laptop manufacturer, why do they suck so much at selling more of them compared to windows laptops?

    • @dj4aces
      @dj4aces Před 7 měsíci

      @@murtadha96 I fear you missed the phrase "similar x86 laptops", and based your entire response on what you wanted to see, rather than what I actually wrote.
      Are they powerful? Sure. Are they worth the added expense? To you, perhaps, but I can't justify the added expense.

  • @Sizukun1
    @Sizukun1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Does apple know a large portion of their consumers have no idea what makes their new model different or better so sometimes it just isn't?

  • @HShango
    @HShango Před 7 měsíci +8

    I'd rather have a specced framework laptop with steamOS on the framework laptop than macOS/windows

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold Před 7 měsíci +2

    Yeah, nope. Always used Macs myself, but I was able to repair them when needed. Case in point, my aging Mac mini from 2012 still runs great, broke down a few years ago and I fixed it. The problem with Macs nowadays is that I have to empty my pockets completely to make it a bit future proof, instead of doing it gradually. That alone + the non repairability killed it for me. Framework is in my sights.

  • @HandleName_CB
    @HandleName_CB Před 7 měsíci +5

    I swtich to mbp from surface pro this year. no plan to go back to that garbage....

  • @ty2k
    @ty2k Před 7 měsíci +2

    Really nice computers but impossible to justify the price of, unless work is paying for it.

  • @makwikus
    @makwikus Před 7 měsíci +8

    It's not expensive, because it's nice. It's expensive, because it's Apple.

    • @f.i.b3027
      @f.i.b3027 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I would love to see anybody else with even half of the efficiency that they give.

  • @Pyroplan
    @Pyroplan Před 7 měsíci +1

    To be fair, the framework 16 laptop is also not cheap.
    Higher base price, lower price for higher tier, but not thaaaat much difference for same specs

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Před 7 měsíci

      U should buy the older fancy models for half the price !
      Buy this in two years ?
      apple books are worth the money !

  • @ReaperMain
    @ReaperMain Před 7 měsíci +8

    Leave it to the Apple Shills to spend stupid amounts of money on unupgraeable ram and ssd's 😂

    • @Glornak
      @Glornak Před 7 měsíci +1

      Normally I can forgive soldered RAM cause most 8GB laptops don't even have GPUs and cost like $600. 8GB for something advertised as good for creative work is a joke. 8GB is for web browsing and office work and paying over $1,000 for a basic office computer is ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that almost a majority of $1,000+ windows laptops still ship with an extra M.2 slot so even grandma can add 2TB of storage later on.

    • @GlobalWave1
      @GlobalWave1 Před 7 měsíci +2

      If Apple wanted a bigger market share then they shouldn’t solder the SSD’s and charge so much for upgrades and the ram shouldn’t cost so much as well.
      No reason to solder the SSD’s

  • @samblanton967
    @samblanton967 Před 7 měsíci

    as an owner of a 16" M3 Pro, just get a supped up M1 Max for the same price, you will most likely get more storage, more ram, and still more performance in some areas and more than enough in the rest.

  • @Hatecrewdethrol
    @Hatecrewdethrol Před 7 měsíci +10

    Every good argument/reason for buying macs just dissolves when you look at their insane price points

    • @GlobalWave1
      @GlobalWave1 Před 7 měsíci

      If you’re using it to do something you love and it pays its self off would be worth it.
      If you use it as a professional tool I can see it being worth it but if you just want a nice laptop but have trouble paying the prices it’s probably not worth the investment.

    • @alandworsky8926
      @alandworsky8926 Před 7 měsíci

      I mean, competing windows laptops like well spaced razer or dells top end have similar price tags - so imo it’s not that it’s so expensive but certain things like storage and ram are absurdly priced in order to price discriminate between professionals and consumers - it’s annoying af tho

  • @sebas.rozmary
    @sebas.rozmary Před 7 měsíci

    ⁠I bought my first apple MBP M2…. Sold it after a week. The screen is very fragile… it is the panel then a ‘film’ on it. No hard plastic or anything… so basically it’s very fragile. A fingernail can scratch it… a breadcrumb when closing can break it. Replacement under warranty? No apple says ‘yeah we know it can break, but a crumb when closing is your fault, therefore no warranty’. Ridiculous!!!!
    No windows laptop has this issue, just widen the gap between the panel and the keyboard… Nope, just a margin thinner than a a4 paper. So a plastic screen protector puts pressure on the panel. And can break the panel as well.
    I miss that machine, that ONE flaw… broke my heart 😢

  • @OneWay4D73
    @OneWay4D73 Před 7 měsíci +3

    "I don't think I'll ever go back to windows on a laptop" despite imminent snapdragon X launch

    • @murtadha96
      @murtadha96 Před 7 měsíci +3

      lol people thinking Arm on Windows is going to be spectacular just crack me up. The problem is not JUST efficiency on Windows laptops. It's Windows itself. The bloated pile of garbage with Adware everywhere that is Windows. Not to mention convincing app developers to support a whole new platform and architecture with not much incentive.

  • @Mr.Minothaure
    @Mr.Minothaure Před 7 měsíci

    5:27 its almost like apple pulled an apple ...