The Most Common Types of Negligent Discharge
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- Paul describes the most common types of negligent discharge and how to avoid them.
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hey everyone; Thanks for Sharing your NG anecdotes. I know that many of these events are embarrassing and many were damned scary when they happened. All of them can be helpful to prevent others from making perhaps very costly mistakes. So again, thank you.
One time after clearing a jam in a 22 match pistol (Pardini, chamber a bit hard to see and does not nessesarily lock on an empty mag) that I «assumed» was on its 5th and last round when it jammed I removed the mag, loaded it up again and behold when I racked the slide a live round popped out.
Paul Harrell
Hey Paul, have you made any videos about conceal carrying a firearm while a round is chambered? I know people are gonna rag on me for not having one chambered, but it’s still a big contention point personally.
@@jonkR96 He has - a while back so I can't find the video (watch ALL of them bro) - his question was "why WOULDN'T you carry with one in the chamber?", he said he always would but if you didn't like it for whatever reason including the fear factor then that's the right choice for you.
Many years ago when I got my first 1911, I had a negligent discharge at the range. The extractor bar was too straight and causing jams, so I pulled back the slide to allow the spent casing to fall out and then I removed the magazine without realizing there was a cartridge that had been chambered. I was very new and trying to do everything slowly and keeping the muzzle pointed downrange when I reflexively pulled the trigger. I did not know why the gun was jamming at that time and I was mentally (and apparently physically) going over the steps I had taken in an attempt to figure out if I was doing something wrong that led the jam. Needless to say, the gun bucked in my hand surprisingly and I broke out in a cold sweat over how bad things could've gone. Even when attempting to be as careful as possible, mistakes can still happen.
Protherium that’s crazy because blanks can still kill😮
The 2 loudest sounds: A Bang when you're expecting a Click and a Click when you're expecting a Bang.
Don't know about the 1st but so true on the 2nd!
Yep
I shot a mother bear.... with my camera. She heard that click like it was a boom. She then let me know I was in the wrong place and that I should leave.
Gene Miller don’t forget the dreaded “pffffft” sound of a squib. The scariest of sounds
noxxi knox I’m not stopping just because a doorknob turns
One day, while out hunting, I got lost. Knowing that the proper distress signal is ‘firing three shots in the air’, I proceeded to do so. Nobody came, so I did it again. I waited a while longer and fired three more shots. Finally, another hunter found me and took me back to the lodge. On the way back, I said “It’s a good thing that you found me. I was almost out of arrows”. 😂
I don’t get it
@@davidledesma209 Arrows don't really make a whole lot of noise
Hahahahaha 😝
That's extremely dangerous to be firing arrows into the air. Thankfully nobody was hurt
@@cwatson42785 that went over your head
My teaching was simple: the only time the chamber is empty is when you are looking at the empty chamber. As soon as you can't see the chamber, the gun is loaded.
That's stupid.
@@koobertohumperdink8702 It's a good way to be taught, particularly for magazine-fed guns. There are lots of different factors that a fresh beginner won't always be keeping in mind on top of everything else they're trying to learn day one. Best to teach them to always treat a gun as loaded. Then, once they're comfortable with their technical knowledge and handling experience, they can make that determination for themselves that the gun could only possibly be unloaded.
That's a great way to train your brain to always handle a gun as if it's loaded. Complacency kills.
@@koobertohumperdink8702 That mindset is what instills complacency.
Like teargas said: Complacency kills.
@@Hexaven Wrong. I check the chamber every time before I handle a firearm. but if I remove the ammunition and am dry firing I don't need to check the chamber every 5 minutes. I know when the gun is and is not loaded. first time I pick up a weapon I assume it is loaded until I check it. but once I've checked it and I know it's unloaded I'm not going to pretend like it is still loaded. that is stupid.
An ugly one: When I was in the Norwegian Army in the early 70s, a guy in the neighboring company for whatever reason forgot a live round in the chamber when taking the magazine out after a day on the range.
He didn't find out until the cleaning session later that day. Then the round went off and his comrade was fatally hit in the abdomen. A very tragic and very effective lesson.
45 years later I still remember this incident like yesterday...
A gun is always loaded! Even when it's clear it's still loaded.
Lost a patient while working as EMT, who had attempted to clean their handgun while a round was in the chamber. Discharged into their own abdomen. The handgun had been a gift from a family member, as I understood it. It was the only gunshot wound I encountered in my career.
This happened at Ft Carson in 2006 - took a 50 cal off the pintal, didn't clear it, and it was being loaded into a humvee, went off, killed the person loading it, taking off the leg of the person behind him, and going into the engine of the humvee behind him.
Jesus Christ, that's awful for everyone involved. Senseless loss of life. Sorry you all had to go through that.
poor training entirely.
He could pull an RPG out of his pocket and casually use it to explain something, and i would just accept it.
I think his pockets are actually portals to his secret firearms dimension.
Happy little surprise.
Best advertisement for the clothes he wears
Kazmark_gl one man armory
"Although the types of weapons encountered in the field vary wildly, one stands out as overwhelmingly common. This is my RPG-7D3 paratrooper model rocket-propelled grenade launcher..."
Important thing to remember, "lot of people are bit by dogs that don't bite and get shot by guns that aren't loaded."
Tyler Shrouder
I like that one. Never heard it before.
No such thing as an unloaded gun.
Up to this point I have not had a negligent discharge and my dog hasn't bitten anyone.
I don't own any firearms but one quote I always cite is "cemeteries are full of people who had right of way". Never assume that the person coming the other way is going to stop until you see them brake or you make eye contact.
And if you're a pedestrian ALWAYS check for incoming traffic, even if you're crossing at a green light, even if you're halfway through crossing a 3 lane roadway. Always check *each lane* individually before entering it, and if there's a truck obscuring your view stop and peer behind it before proceeding.
Just because the people in the first two lanes are stopped it doesn't mean someone distracted couldn't be coming in from that third one. If you get hit by a car as a pedestrian it may not legally be your fault, but as far as I'm concerned there is almost _always_ negligence on your part, because you did not ensure the road was clear.
All dogs bite and all guns are loaded.
Period.
About 15 years ago, I failed to remove the magazine and empty the chamber in the right order. Left a loaded rifle on the table while I went to get my cleaning supplies. My brother picked the rifle up and checked to ensure it was unloaded as proper gun safety measures dictate. He found it had been loaded the entire time. Thinking about what could have happened still gives me a feeling of absolute dread.
I made this mistake before taking my pistol apart to clean it and shot a 9mm hollow point through my hand. I obliterated the bone in my hand under my pinky and I go in for reconstructive surgery tomorrow.
@@TheGriimReefer Hope you're doing okay now.
@@TheGriimReefer I'm a bit late. Holy shit. That's terrible. I hope you be more careful in the future.
This is why there are so many rules: you learn and apply all of them, and if one day you don't apply one of them (and you will, because humans make mistakes), the other rules should protect you until you realise your mistake
That's why I always leave the chamber open until I'm ready to start breaking the gun down for cleaning.
This video is definitely going to appear in court as a reference soon....
What why
@@literatemax Alec Baldwin
@@14metallicafreak i didnt even think of that
I came to the comments searching for Alec Baldwin jokes
BALD
I tried a negligent discharge joke, it didn't go off like expected.
I approve of this pun.
People are always shocked when they find out I am an amateur electrician.
That’s probably bc you went for it all half cocked.
Clever!
Ba-Dum-Bum
I started carrying a gun after an attempted mugging a few years ago....
...since then my mugging attempts have been a lot more successful.
Wow
lmao
ahahahhaa
@@willyjf6193 Thank you. Thank you.
@@badlandskid Haha!
Hi Paul, British guy here, late to the party with a Negligent Discharge story from my school days (30+ years ago): We had an indoor smallbore rifle range at our school, run under the auspices of the Ministry of Defence for our school cadet force. One of the regulations was that only single-shot bolt-action .22 calibre target rifles could be used on it. It was a narrow building, 6 firing points, the rifle lockers down one side wall in front of the firing point (protected by sandbags from any stray bullets). The master in charge would sit on a canvas backed chair behind the firing point, with the door behind him. The headmaster owned a pump action .22 magazine rifle and had allowed some of the shooters to use it one day, in defiance of the aforementioned restriction. At the end of the detail, the two shooters were clearing up when someone came to the door, so the master got up from his chair and went outside to talk to him. One boy was downrange putting rifles in the lockers, the other boy was on the firing point and picked up the pump action to check it was clear. As there was a boy downrange he turned and pointed it at the master's chair to dry fire it after cycling the action twice. To his astonishment, it went off, blowing a surprisingly large hole in the chair's canvas back and an even larger one in the wooden doorpost, thankfully not penetrating all the way through. There was hell to pay. The commanding officer of the CCF, a former Army Sergeant Major who had been unaware of the pump-action rifle's use on the range, insisted on reporting it as a dangerous incident to the MoD. The school could have lost the licence for shooting and possibly even its funding for the cadet force. The headmaster nearly lost his personal firearms license.
The year was 2000 I came home after a long day of work and had an accident discharge. My son now 21 loves your videos.
Daaaang that's more cold than the climate in this video... :D
Paul: I could go on about holsters all day
Me: My schedule looks clear
@Paul Harrell Make it happen please.
bhauger1 - well only if it’s in appendix then it’s ok. Cause gangsta life......
I actually think he has a video on holsters, or "carry methods". It was a pretty interesting video!
Tuco don't need no holster.
@Marine1775Preacher1611 American1776 yeah okay, Fair point. But you get what I meant 😑
One time I was handed a rifle at a gun shop, and naturally I checked the chamber. The employee huffed and asked "Do you really think I would hand you a loaded weapon?" That kind of cavalier attitude to the readiness condition of a firearm is what often leads to NDs.
"I understand your point, but now YOU know it is safe and I KNOW it is safe."
"Yes, every time, it's how I've gone 20 years without murdering something that didn't deserve murdering."
I've seen this exact thing happen, but in reverse, where the gun shop employee gets handed a gun, they very marginally open the chamber to check, the owner of the gun says "Do you really think i'd hand you a loaded gun?" to which the gun shop employee fully pulls the bolt back, and a round comes flying out
I’ve seen tons of youtube comments with that exact attitude too. “Bullets don’t just transport into a chamber” was one. Yes, they do actually, at least that’s how your brain will perceive it.
The best advice my father ever gave to me was "Every gun is loaded. I don't give a shit how many times you've checked it."
I just had my first one yesterday. I was on an unsupervised range in the middle of nowhere, I was testing handloads in my BFR .500 Magnum.
It single action, everytime I cock it I have to move my supporting hand to reach the hammer and then carefully regrip my hands. Well, I'm not 100% sure what I did, because I had gloves on, but somehow I must of touched the trigger and shot the dirt about a yard from my feet. The gun went flying and landed about 10 feet away.
I feel so terrible, I'm not sure I've ever felt this bad about anything in my life.
I hope you forgive your mistake and get back to shooting w competence.
Just in 2021 I was hunting with my dad. Lever action 44. With a scope. When we got out of the truck some deer ran off so we were going to stalk them. I tried to lower the hammer after chambering a round. Had gloves on, Thumb got stuck between the hammer and the scope and I tried to fit my other thumb between the hammer and the gun. Tried to pull my other thumb off the hammer but the gun went off and hit a tree about 3 yards away. I was so sad and embarrassed I didn't hunt the rest of the season.
@@Chris-ef3vz Gun safety is so good. Had it pointed in a safe direction, so even though we only messed up one rule, nothing was damaged except our egos. And gun safety is so good that we feel immense shame...
@@SpecialEDy better shame than medical bills or possible criminal charges. Or worse, dead. at least you can admit it.
My dog set off my savage 24 leaning up againlst a tree. He managed to cock the hammer with the leash and he stepped on the trigger a millisecond later. An entire hunting party had to help each other check for holes in one another. That was in 2003. I never in a million years would think an uncocked gun sitting against a tree in the middle of the woods surrounded by experienced hunters could be dangerous. I was wrong and now any gun that leaves my physical possession does so sans ammunition.
I've had a BB gun in my hands at 7 years old and knew the 5 rules. One thing I can be thankful for, is a dad that taught me a healthy fear and respect for firearms. Once you see what they can do later on in life, it just reinforces that respect. You are carrying around a death finger. That said, I have never had a negligent discharge in my whole life. I think the biggest thing that causes this, is simply not paying full attention to what you are doing with what's in your hands.
I bought my young ones BB guns so they could get their ND's over with them, I believe anyone who hasn't been through that shoxk could have one, and luck is a big factor if you near have. (I got a 9mm scratch on my concrete bathroom floor, typical "unload chamber" then mag. Safe as the 3 rules usually cover for the 1 your breaking, *btw* the "5th rule" is subjective (I've heard know your ammo, don't talk to anybody, ...... I'm interested in your 5th
(Four are
•always treat as if loaded
•keep finger off trigger til ready
•never point at anything not willing to shoot
•know your target and what lies beyond it))
The only one I’ve had was with a BB gun I left sitting for a year or two, picked it up and shot it at my mirror, came back and hit me just below the eye. Scared and hurt me so bad it got instilled twice.
I have had one negligent discharge and that was down the range. I was standing up from shooting prone and I still had my finger on the trigger. Rightfully got an earful from dad.
@@abstractapproach634For me, the fifth one would probably be to keep your firearm in good condition. You don’t want that sucker jamming on you when you REALLY need it!
I grew up in Boy Scouts with BB guns then 22s at a very young age. I think that made a huge difference and people that didn’t have similar upbringing make me very uncomfortable to be around with guns.
Always remember this: The loaded gun kills your enemy and the empty gun kills your friend.
stefstaf Damn. That's a really good way to think about it.
trigger discipline is one of the greatest measures of a man.
Genious!
Actually, all too often your loaded gun is used by a perp to kill you.
Excellent quote, I’m a UK army guy & I hope u don’t mind but I’m gonna steal that from you for my trainees. Thx
Proving Rule 0: "The gun is always loaded, especially when it isn't."
amen, the disciple of finger discipline speaks
Rule Number 1: "The devil load the weapon, and the idiot discharge the weapon"
Rule Number 2: "The idiot load the weapon and the same idiot discharge, the devil is inocent".
Thou hath emptied thou's magazine sire
If only that worked on the 2 way range.
Proving rule 1: You shouldn't handle a gun.
in the army, when coming back from patrol or guard duty, the process was: remove the mag, pull the slide back 2 times, aim at a designated safe direction and pull the trigger once. the point of the process was to triple check that the gun was empty. by pulling the slide 2 times, even if you forgot to take out the mag, you would see a round coming out of the chamber and it would remind you that the mag is still in and if by any chance you still ended up having a round in the chamber, by pointing at the direction of the firing range and pulling the trigger the gun would fire at a location where there was nobody to be hit. and of course if you managed to fire a round that way you were in for an earful the next day... to put it mildly. fortunately it never happened to anyone while i was there but i heard stories from other places. worst situation in our camp was a couple of guys who were supposed to come back from leave on saturday morning and decided to take the weekend off and came back monday... and the colonel's voice could be heard from miles as he was "explaining" to them the difference between saturday and monday before sentencing them to 20 days of double shift guard duty and toilet cleaning because, as he put it, it was too much paperwork to send them to HQ with a charge of desertion.
I've personally seen the same kind of procedure happening and resulting in a NG.
The revolver thing got me. My brain then caught up and figured it out just before you started to explain it, but I can definitely see how that would catch the inexperienced completely off guard.
Thanks for this! I also treat my Ruger's "chamber indicator" as a filthy liar for empty >_> I want to pull the slide and see through the entire weapon or it isn't empty...
I was caught up in the excitement of the rabbit hunt for a second as well.
The 306 people that disliked have negligently discharged their dislike button
i thought you said thirty-aught-six i was confused lol
Boom boom. That's what I call deliberately discharged clever pun.
438 now 👎 for child support
You may be joking, but this is actually mostly-correct.
When people ask "How does anyone dislike this video?", they are often failing to account for those who accidentally click dislike. And it's more than most people think. I've done it myself only to come back to the video later on asking myself "Why is the dislike button highlighted blue?".
Na just stupid
I swear, Paul is like a videogame protagonist with the amount of weapons he could just casually pull out of his pockets.
ANd as smooth as butter too
@@tanork47 Yeah, really satisfying.
He's Tackleberry's brother!
Even the way he explains everything is like something out of a game tutorial. Npc dialogue
I better see him and Garand Thumb on the next CoD
A few weeks ago, I came home from running some errands and I unloaded my carry pistol as I do when I enter my place of residence. I pulled the mag out and unchambered the round. Usually, I just let the round fall on the table and then pick it up, but when I ejected the round, it flipped up in the air and fell back into the chamber as it closed. This didn't lead to a negligent discharge because I saw it happen, but I thought I would share the anecdote as to make sure you always double check your chamber.
That’s like 1 in a million, sir
I don't think I could do that if I tried.
@@scottyc3215 haha yeah same
Cycle twice never cry once.
@@firewing1319 what does that mean?
I once had an accidental discharge (not negligent). I was shooting an old 380 makarov pistol and went to clear it from fully loaded and chambered position. I dropped the mag and flipped the safety on with the intention of immediately afterward clearing the chamber. Instead, the safety being flipped to the safe position caused the gun to fire the round still in the chamber. Luckily gun safety was so natural at that point to me that I still had the gun pointed down range the entire time I was handling it. The craziest part of this story is after the round fired and while I was looking down at the gun, more than a little shocked and startled, I noticed the bullet that I had just accidentally fired literally roll up to my boot and stop an inch away. I still have that bullet and will remember the incident for the rest of my life, as a reminder of why gun safety is so so important.
I wouldn’t call that accidental discharge. that was a malfunction. And it happens
@@iaibandfrom what I gathered in this very video, an accidental discharge is a an unwanted discharge that happens because of factors beyond gun user's negligence - such as malfunction.
basically, if you do everything right and it still fires, that's accidental; if you do something wrong and that's why it fires, that's negligent
@@iaibandMalfunctions are accidental. However as long as you follow basic gun safety rules malfunctions should almost never hurt anyone.
Disregarding safety rules is what makes an accidental discharge negligent. You could have avoided it but didn't.
So you flipped the safety onto safe...and *that* caused the gun to fire? Like, just making sure I understand here; I'm not familiar with the design of any Makarov
@@matthewdemarey4762 It could be that a part was broken but stuck, and that moving the safety moved it out of the way.
Tip: If someone calls you out on violating a golden rule of gun safety (i.e. having your finger on the trigger), please don't get upset or angry. That pride will get someone killed one day.
Goddamn right. Having some humility could save lives.
I only recently became a gun owner but several years ago I went to the range with my cousin. He was going over the rules of gun safety including never pointing the barrel of the gun at someone you don't want to shoot and always assuming the gun is loaded. Then he proceeds to point his f-ing gun right at me as he inspects it before going to the range. I said, "Hey man remember, don't point that thing at me." He snorted, "It's not loaded don't be such a baby." And so I lost all confidence in him.
My father got mad at me for grabbing his arm and pointing it down range when he was looking at it
It's like saying lighting will strike you one day.
Finger should be off the trigger, but finger on the trigger in proper hands will never shoot the trigger itself.
For extra safety every gun owner should have finger off the trigger until ready to shoot, but that myth is obnoxious
Underrated comment. The reaction to calling out poor muzzle or trigger discipline is something to keep in mind. My mom, my grandma, and my ex all demonstrated poor regard for gun safety that, upon me or someone else getting gassed up over having a gun pointed at them, instead reacted in ways which exacerbated the issue. My mom and my ex both started waving the gun around (in the same way), while my grandma might've been too old to really know or care what she was doing, responding to other peoples' comments by making the issue worse. Got to be careful of the environment and the response to dealing with poor discipline. I find a third party helps a great deal, especially with the egos involved in "dudes watching dudes."
In Russia we have a saying, "Once a year, even a broom fires a shot." Don't ever point a firearm in a direction you aren't willing to shoot. You may think the chamber is empty, you might have even checked, but once a year, even a broom fires a shot.
There’s another comment that says something similar, “when in doubt, a broomstick shoots.”
@@CausingChaos. i swear that for pool/billiards. But i'm not russian, but i swear i've heard people say that about broomsticks referring to using them as pool cues.
With the hustle & bustle and numerous distractions in life, so easy to forget you chambered one.
I'm gonna start using that.
I'd also love to hear it said in Russian
Now that makes my appendix carry even more uncomfortable than ever and I don't carry a broomstick!!!
Ill give you one, I prevented a negligent discharge a few months back.
I work in a small mom&pop bass proshop type store. One day a customer walks in with an Remington 7400, wanted me to boresight it. I'm standing at the cash register, guy lays the case on counter and opens it. Gun was locked, mag was out and empty. I grab the rifle and rack the bolt once; nothing happens. I then VISUALLY INSPECT THE CHAMBER and there it was; one live round in the chamber staring at me. I tell the guy '' WTF there's a live round in there'' the guy went '' Are you serious?'' I rack the bolt again and still nothing. I let the bolt go forward and gave it a tap then cock it back, and on the floor went a nice vortex 30-06 plastic tip round.
I work in a store surrounded by firearms and ammo. I know each and every gun on my rack, I still ALWAYS VISUALLY INSPECT each chamber when I take one off the rack. Its second nature to me.
Getting the sequence right and knowing your weapon intimately is so important. When I went through training in the Swedish Army we practised all the types of handling of our weapon for almost a week with dummy rounds before being allowed on the shooting range. We took both theoretical and practical tests having to show instructors that we fundamentally understood how our weapon works. This way it is pretty much impossible to get the sequence wrong. To someone who has had this kind of training, watching your examples of negligent dischargers almost seem hilarious and strange. As if that basically couldn't happen. But that's because I have been trained in a way where all these things are second nature + having been drilled on the four basic rules of firearms use.
1. Never assume that a weapon is unloaded, don't trust someone who says it is when handed a weapon.
2. Never point your weapon at something you do not wish to destroy.
3. Keep your fingers away from the trigger until you are actually supposed to shoot.
4. Never shoot something you are unsure about. Always identify your target, and the risks of your current bullet trajectory (what's in between you and the target, and what's behind the target?).
During my 9 months training, we had one negligent discharge on the shooting range, the first field week. A recruit did actually get the sequence wrong, removed the round in the chamber, and accidentally released the mechanism forward to load another round, then removed the magazine. Then fired. The reason came out that the recruit did subconsciously feel that something wasn't right, but was in a stressful situation and didn't want to "bother anyone". The instructors had a talk with her and the entire platoon and basically explained that safety is number one. If we are doing a live-fire exercise, and you feel something is wrong, safety is still number one. Even though we are in the heat of the moment, you should never be afraid to basically stand up, call an officer and explain what you feel or have seen. Because of this, we are trained from the beginning that any soldier can at any point in time call out a fire ban to everyone around them. Just scream the command and your fellow recruits will have to stop shooting. Then you can calmly and without any blame put on anybody, assess the situation and correct whatever may be wrong (positioning, fire angles etc).
+ a weapon safety story of my own. We had a live-fire exercise. Then we had to move from one position to another, a couple km's away. When I got there, I laid down to rest as we got a few minutes before the next things were starting. I looked down at my firearm and saw that the safety was off, somehow it had gone from safe to semi-auto during that sprint. I had been basically running around for I don't know how long with an unsafe weapon and loaded magazine. But I had never mantled the rifle, so the chamber was empty. That was scary.
Problems of negligent discharge are ones of either having the wrong mindset, not being trained well enough, or a combination of both.
"It's always the unloaded gun that kills you" - to quote my dad
@Addict c: well your dad did unload his gun for you to be alive so...
@@josealmeida5768 WOW
Most people are shot with an unloaded gun. After a shooting the witnesses state ..."I thought the gun was unloaded." The fact is all guns are loaded unless I personally check the gun.
@@josealmeida5768
Clearly it was an accidental discharge
Greek army soldiers manual says that. NEVER toy with a weapon, empty weapons kill.
“We had to correct the situation”
As a platoon leader, Paul must have really given it to the guy lol
I can imagine he walked away feeling 3 inches tall.
Yep, listening to that line told me all I needed to know about how that private/specialist's day went immediately thereafter lol
Probably had to run a couple miles while reciting the basic gun safety rules, with an empty mag in one hand, and a open pistol with a cable-lock through it in the other. "This gun is loaded!"
Paul doesn't need to raise his voice. His death stare of ultimate disappointment is enough.
Most issues relating to safety within any activity usually occur from a chain of events. This is a major idea within aviation as well and being taught to break that chain of events is incredibly important to mitigate risk. Thank you for the great video and making me realize that most hazards are caused due to a chain of bad decisions. I know this is a video specifically about negligent discharge but hearing about the idea of the "accident chain" outside of the only field I've experienced it in was eye opening to me. Have a good day!
No contest, Paul Harrell clearly has the best firearms videos on CZcams. His videos are concise, informative, intelligent, and frequently have a twist of humor that only Paul can bring.
And that is why he's achieved legitimate "legendary" status in this arena, and has earned every bit of the reverence he's gotten.
I firmly believe that his series of lessons amounts to a collegiate-level instruction on the world of firearms if a degree for such a thing were ever to exist.
We will never have a reasonable facsimile in the future without massive plagiarism from Paul.
demolition ranch is the best gun tuber on the website. 12 million subs. not debatable.
@nomercyinc6783 millions of people worldwide follow vapid, contrived celebrities with no redeeming value whatsoever.
I'm not saying that DemoRanch is one of these examples, but my point is that your follower count doesn't objectively determine the quality of your content, only how good you are at marketing.
@@nomercyinc6783 I’ve watched both. You are correct…not debatable; Paul Harrell by a mile.
@@RighteousJ Acquaint yourself with “shill.”
When it comes to ND, the best anecdote I've ever heard is: The loudest sound in the world is getting a bang when you expect a click, or getting a click when you expect a bang.
Definitely bang when desiring a click. Distance from your head has a great deal to do with it, had 2.
@@MasterTaters You didn't learn to check the chamber after the first one?
@@elmateo77 2 completely different types of firearms mate. I don't own 10 da/sa guns i own guns of nearly every type. One wasn't really even negligent as much a failure in thumb strength decocking a revolver,in use, if you count that. I've only had one real stupid one, finger not being where its supposed to, cw 380 and ive never really considered striker fired pistols to be particularly safe compared to da/sa with safeties and slide releases. I don't have children, I live alone, Of course both times they were pointed in a safe direction. Cops gave me no shit. Why should i take it from someone other than the guy i came here to get it from, paul harrell, not you. Shits dealt with guy. The fact im hear listening about it should give me some kinda check against that. Everyone here thats said something about having a negligent discharge has no real excuse at the end of the day, paul asked for stories about it anyway. First time I already knew it was loaded and i was decocking downrange on a live round somewhere in the first 25 shots i ever took with it. 2nd one was because I had never had a striker fired pistol especially one so small and i had my finger in the trigger guard while chambering a round and i gave it a bit of a squeeze while i did that just from sorta manhandling the little pipsqueak, while taking it out intentionally chambering it to put it back in my watch pocket. So both times i knew there is or is going to be a round there, and of course i checked it properly before i even initiated that process. Now you have specifics. Chew away at me. For i like many others here are obviously vile ne'erdowells who earned righteous indignation from YOU specifically. Go get around to everybody else before they stop caring.
@@MasterTaters Relax I was just joking, idc where you shoot as long as I'm not in the area.
Love it.
I learned more about gun safety from this 16-minute video than I did in a 4-hour gun safety class. Thank you, Paul.
I thought the same thing. But, trust that the learner has a safe fear of what could happen is crucial this type of training. That doesn't pan out in all cases. Those 4 hour intro classes - not sure why they are required. Should be a good 16 hours of training, have to meet 4 times so info is presented and absorbed several times over time, and tested. Very similar to learning to fly - much trust in letting the noob go solo for the first time. You have to trust the person wants to avoid death sufficiently to perform to minimum standards, at least.
@Miraj Just my guess but size might play a part in it. You can hold a gun in your hand and you have that little trigger so you assume you have much more control over it VS operating a big heavy car whose two pedals and steering wheel you have to pray to (exaggerating lol) to ensure that you don’t hit another car or a living thing
It’s much larger, so you assume it’s much more complicated and that there’s many more factors out of your control than something smaller that is trivialized as “Just point and shoot”
Ye ik my 8 hr cwp class litteraly was laughable I already knew all the things they said but I guess it is good to have new people learn but it's just nowhere near enough training some of the people didn't even have guns and would ask just dumb questions I know they say there are no dumb questions but they are lol. One of the people didn't have a gun then went up there and bought a .22 rifle and rented a gun because they didn't have one then someone asked should they keep there gun in a safe in the top of the closet and the ammo in there nightstand drawer like wtf
I practiced to take a stick apart.....
CZcams: "shit stains" But you didn't put it back together!
We can all say that but in person classes is more serious. Here on the video you get distracted easily n miss very important words as if u were in person u focus ur physical appearance N are more in attention
I have never fired, held, or even seen a gun in real life, yet I learned so much from this video.
I don't know why so many gun videos are showing up in my Suggested Vidoes, but I do appreciate learning about safety and how these accidents can happen! Stay safe!
Everybody should understand firearms. I know them inside and out, have since I was a child. They’re scary. That’s why they work! However they’re not like in the movies. Neither are bullets.
@@H33t3Speaksdisagree some people don't need the knowledge
@@thelemon5069that's how you get negligent discharges
@@thelemon5069thats how things like this happen
The concept of something being unsafe until proven safe is a useful one in other contexts, such as using power tools. I have never held a gun but I still always think of checking the magazine when I check that something is unplugged before adjusting it
I had never been to this channel before and was pleasantly surprised. Paul does a great job of going through the what could happen and how to be cognizant of why those things happen. Every gun owner should watch this and it should be mandatory for new owners. Thanks for the video
Accidental discharge: My wife's uncle goes to unload his Remington 700 (7mm Rem Mag) after hunting elk. He rotates the bolt, rifle fires and kills a propane tank in the back of his truck as it passes through it, the bed of the truck, and through the gas tank. He had to walk back to town. He sent the rifle in to Remington, they repaired it, and he gave it to me because he no longer trusted it - even though it had been repaired.
Negligent discharge: My father-in-law, a retired police officer, after showing me his new XD45, racks the slide to reload the pistol. His arthritic hand slips off the slide, it slams forward, his finger was on the trigger and he killed his Sleep Number bed and the bullet lodged under the carpet on the floor.
Oh yeah, a .45 ACP is hella loud in the house.
Yep...well known issue with the 700's. Remington knew about this and could have fixed them all with a .25cent part but figured settling lawsuits was less expensive. As with Glock, they just raise the price of their new firearms a couple dollars to cover the expense of the payouts.
1: if he was just showing it off, why was it loaded?
2: old people with physical issues shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
Geez if I didn't trust a weapon any longer, the LAST person I'd give it to is a family member! But then, if I was the nephew, I'd be all, "Hey, free gun!! Cool!!" - :)
>his finger was on the trigger and he killed
Oh no...
>his Sleep Number bed
Oh... okay then.
@@trash9378 1. The post says " after showing me his new XD45, racks the slide to reload ..." He was done showing it and was reloading it so it would be useful.
2. Actually old people with physical issues need guns more than young healthy guys.
The gun didn't go off because the old guy was arthritic.
It went off because he had his finger in the trigger guard when he did not intend to fire.
Yep... over the past 40 years, I think I've seen every one of these at least once. And, must ashamedly admit to having had one of them myself. I was about 17... picked up a shotgun in our basement, threw it to my shoulder, drew a bead on the cupboard door at the end of our basement laundry room, and proceeded to blow that damn door right off it's hinges. Eeey-yeah... nice. Never even THOUGHT to check to see if it was loaded. Guns in our home were ALWAYS unloaded. Except, of course, for that one, that day. THOU SHALT NEVER ASSUME...
I had my only ND with a 12g, when I was a lad as well. Showing off my new shotgun to a buddy, who racked it a few times, while I was focusing on my computer. He handed it back, and I assumed it would be in the same condition in which I handed it to him. Shells in the tube, none in the chamber. But he never pulled the trigger to drop the hammer. So I held it, barrel pointed upward, and pulled the trigger, to drop the hammer, and slammed a hole through my ceiling and roof, with 3-inch mag, 000-buck. I'm not ashamed to admit it. It was completely my fault for not checking the chamber, and am glad I at least had the sense to purposely point it in a safe derection. But I feel having a ND really and truly solidifies the fundamentals of weapon safety into someone. Same with an AD.
@@oddvoid My two younger brothers had similar experience. While in their teens, my youngest bro pointed the shotgun AT my other brother in the bedroom thinking in was unloaded. My other brother yelled at him. My youngest brother says he really really felt like pulling the trigger to prove it was not loaded, but he pulled it down and checked. I'm sure everyone had guessed, it was loaded with buckshot. He says it still gives him sweats thinking how close he come to killing his brother.
I had it happen to me too at a very young age. Glad it happened in a safe environment. Best lesson ever though 😅
I took out my dads big screen with my 410 when I was twelve years old scared the hell out of me.and I got a whipping
My brother had an ND, I had handed him a 20g double barrel I though he knew was loaded, a nice looking gun about 3x my age, and he immediately, without checking, yelled "safety check!" and now our ceiling is full of birdshot.
Outstanding video. Great review for experienced shooters - mandatory viewing for new guys! His comment around 10:18 about having NDs under stress reinforces the need for deliberate, focused practice, even if it is just dry firing at home. As old Archilochus said, "We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training."
I learned my first bit of gun safety from my uncle. He had 2 primary rules 1:The gun is always loaded until proven otherwise, 2: The gun is always loaded even when proven otherwise
Every single time I pick up my guns I check them. Every single time and treat them as if they were loaded even though I may have checked them two or three times. Every single time.
The unspoken rule of thermodynamics: Even though matter cannot be created, a gun always has a bullet in the chamber.
the more I watch these videos the more I want to buy a surplus of flags to stick in every chamber of every gun I'm not actively using just to quintuple check that the gun is doubly clear
@@alejandroquesada Schrodinger’s gun, except the round is always in the damn gun.
First rule, it’s loaded even if it isn’t, second keep your booger hook off the bang bang switch
My father once told me "Just about the time you think you've mastered it.. tell yourself.. you haven't."
Most of the carpenters I've known who have lost fingers in their saws, didn't have any accidents until they were extremely experienced. With guns, saws, or other dangerous things, it's not good to feel excessively comfortable.
Shredders exactly.
My dad told me the same thing except he said the day you think you have mastered something is the day you need to quit or leave what ever it is
Smart man
If you think you've mastered something its because you lack the experiance to know better.
Your teaching skills in this video cannot be over-rated. Great work!
My very first experience with guns resulted in a negligent discharge. It was a 12ga pump which imbedded a slug in the door casing of a bedroom closet where I was holding the weapon . . . a closet just adjacent to the kids’ bedroom on the other side of it. I was 17, if memory serves, and am now 60, and thanks to God, with all my now extensive experience with firearms have never had another negligent or accidental discharge with any gun. And I carry my S&P 9mm hot!
I am pretty much a maniac when it comes to gun safety. Because as we know, it only takes one!
Thank you Paul!! This video should be mandatory viewing for all shooters. I appreciate the way this man is so very clear and concise in his demonstrations. Never condescending and always spot on. Your years of experience are ever apparent. Thank you sir for all the great vids
"Always use the proper holster."
casualy drops into pocket
😂😂😂😂
Hey man, those pockets are tight. The amount of times you see him pull shit outa those pockets kinda tell you that they’re not deep and kinda thin
@@onefastsled I mean i've seen some of his videos where he'll pull out 3 or more guns out of a jacket like that lmao.
I've yet to see him pull a chambered gun from a pocket. He does this for ease of doing these lessons, plus the pockets are just awesome!
Those arent pockets theyre built in 1911 serpa holsters instead.
Of all the times he says “Don’t try this at home”, this time he REALLY means it...
That was my first thought, ... and this is how you can tell he's a professional, he did this a live-fire range, not at home.
I committed (I think) a negligent discharge years ago when I was still learning to operate my AMT Hardballer 1911. I say I think because when you run an unexpected round through a bed and into the basement of your house you forget exactly what happened. I let the slide go and I was intending to then let the hammer down with a round in the chamber. The second the slide seated and the chamber was in battery it discharged a round. If you forget everything else remember this, always have the weapon pointed in a safe direction so a negligent discharge or a malfunction results only in a wife angry about the mattress and comforter.
That sounds like more of a accidental discharge than negligent, unless the trigger was actually pulled.
I've only had one negligent discharge. It was a borrowed .22" rimfire bolt action rifle on a target range. I took aim and pulled the trigger. Nothing happened because the safety was on. When I released the safety, the gun instantly fired. Fortunately, the gun was aimed downrange and the discharge went into the back-stop harmlessly.
This has left me with a deep mistrust of safety catches. I now ignore them and always empty my chamber and insert a safety flag when the rifle is supposed to be safe. I don't hunt, just targets and clay shooting, so I don't need to carry a loaded firearm.
I’ve never shot a gun in my life but this video was so engaging that I sat down and watched it in its entirety. Nice work, great video.
Paul Harrell is CZcams therapy
same here. shot: rifle yes, shotgun yes, gun no
don't own any because of realy strict rules in my country. still find these video's informative
@@The2Dennis Machine guns are super exciting to shoot, do it if you ever get a chance. it was free for me since "I was in Army".
For real, dude could do ASMR vids.
If u ever get a chance man I would recommend it, loads of fun and so many different choices of guns, contrary to media beliefs!!
Clearing a colleague's M-16 for him: Dropped the magazine, pulled the bolt to the rear, looked in the (empty) chamber, released the bolt, pulled the trigger, and BANG! The ejector spring was broken and the (fortunately) blank was still grasped to the bolt face by the extractor. Check the receiver, not just the chamber.
yup, 3 point check: 1 feed path 2 chamber 3 bolt face
I usually just half charge it so the bolt and the chamber are visible through the ejection port
Had something like this happen back in basic, went through a couple of days without firing a blank. Cleared the rifle every time while returning to the bivouac area and then put the same ejected blank on top of the magazine every time, happened quite often as the water buffalo and porta potty are outside of the bivouac area. After a few days of this the blank just didn't eject, it was quite a close one it's dark at night but I noticed nothing came out and pull the charging handle a couple more times before it ejected. My theory was that the casing got damaged from being ejected so many times.
In a gun shop. The extractor was chipped. Did not extract and the boss looked in the magazine then closed it and fired it. I saw the round in the chamber, but he closed and pulled the trigger quick.
This is why I always rack the slide or cycle the bolt at least twice. (In addition to checking the bolt and receiver. )
Great video. I spent many years in the Marine Corps but watching videos like this I always add more tools to my arsenal. Thank you Paul Harrell.
There are so many so called experts in the field of firearms it can be very frustrating and quite frankly overwhelming at the amount of misinformation out there. I've been in the field of law enforcement/corporate security for 35 years and just recently stumbled upon this channel. I'm incredibly impressed at the knowledge, presentation of that knowledge, and the variety of content you offer. Very well done.
Had 1 negligent discharge. It happened when I was 13, another double entendre to add. I was at a shotgun shooting range with my stepfather's stepfather, and I was taken to practice shoot. At one point of shooting, I always kept the barrel in safe direction, I failed to engage the safety. Before saying pull I was asked "is your safety enaged?" Rather than looking I just pulled the trigger pointing the gun down range, and said something like " oh shit, nope". I was immediately told to "empty the gun and put the safety on, and that I'm done for the day". So embarrassed, and disappointed with myself I will never forget it.
Stepfather's stepfather is not a title I ever thought I'd see
@@NathanDudani 'murica
@@NathanDudani Anthony will also live on to be a stepfather
Embarrassing moments are often the most remembered
Glad you felt so ashamed but happy you learnt something without hurting anyone.
My father told me in the East German army there was a saying
Im Zweifel schießt ein Besenstiel - When in doubt, a broomstick shoots.
Die Waffe ist immer geladen und schußbereit.
According to another commenter, they say that in Russia too
@@El-Burrito Who knows, maybe they got it from there. After all the East German NVA was strongly allied with the Soviet Red Army.
@@El-Burrito it's not that far off, east germany was a part of the Eastern Bloc for some time.
@@theaninova Highly plausible, but in fact Russia has had a lasting history of relationship with Germany since the 18th century, so it might have been the other way around. Or actually forth from Germany in the 18th and then back from Russia after WW2
Hello Paul,
Thank you for this very interesting video.
In the french army, we have 4 fundamental rules which lead the use of any firearm (from the pistol to the mortar)
1- A gun must ALWAYS be considered as loaded
2- Never aim or let somebody aim the barrel of a gun on something or somebody that we do not want to destroy
3- keep the finger away from the trigger until the aim organ are not on the objective
4- Be sure of your objective and your environment.
This is a bit what you told but these rules have to been known by heart by all soldier. and this help avaiding dangerous situations. The rule 2 obligate you to avoid the other wrongly manipluate the firearm.
We use the same rules in Sweden.
In the US Army it goes-
1. Treat all weapons as loaded
2. Weapon on safe and finger out of the trigger well until you are ready to fire
3. Do not aim at anything you do not intend to destroy (basically verbatim lol)
4. Ensure positive ID of all targets
Guess people have made the same stupid mistakes in every military to make these safety briefs 😂
I’ve had one NG. I was clearing a pistol for storage, thought the chamber was empty, went to drop the hammer... BANG! Most startling thing ever, especially as I consider myself one of the more “anal” ones about gun safety in my group. Since then I’ve been even more diligent when clearing weapons and muzzle directions. I still am not sure what happened if I messed up my sequence of events, forgot to take the mag out, took it out and put it back in. I try play it over inside my head and can’t figure it out, all I know is it makes me that much more anal about safety now which is a silver lining
We all get distracted. I had a similar event long ago and from then on, before I will pull the trigger on an "empty" gun, I will repeat chamber checking it until it has my utmost attention.
Alex, are you married......?
@@waynehearst317 I'm confused at the relevance of the question?
But, no I'm not, and was single at the time
@@Zanmiester it would have been really funny if you would have got it without help, but the joke was...."are you married?", implying that maybe, just perhaps, your wife set you up since you're anal about safety and can't figure out how the gun was hot.
@@waynehearst317 ahh! gotcha.
I mean the pistol was hot to begin with, that's why I was clearing for storage. I always carry with one in the chamber. Its just fuzzy how i f*cked up the sequence of events since it happened quick and startled me good.
The unshouldering of that rifle was so smooth I had to go back and watch it a few times.
If you like this, watch his video about slings.
Muscle memory....everything you need to know about firearms. :)
"We had to correct the situation"
Yup that kid got smoked 🤣
Like a pack of Camels!
Rumor has it that he has retired, but his arms are still there pushing.
He's still climbing that mountain
Half right face. Front leaning rest position MOVE
Donkey Kick... IN CA-DENCE!
Such a valuable channel! Before the internet the only way to get this kind of knowledge was to take classes, real world experience and or pay good money on a teacher to gain such knowledge. People enjoy the internet for many different reasons. Me personally, I will never down play the absolute value in Paul's videos and the work he does here.
Honestly privileged to have such a direct source to such information. I grew up in a world that didn't offer this kind of knowledge at one's fingertips.
No matter how long I have been around firearms, I always take the time to soak up more real world knowledge. You can never get enough of it and you never stop learning.
Hey Paul I remember seeing a video of yours years and years ago - glad to see you're still going into 2022. Happy New Year and rock on!
True Story: I was in basic training at the firing range. We were told if our weapon jammed we should bump the forward assist three times and if that didn't work then we should raise our hand and a drill sergeant would come and clear the weapon. I had a jam, bumped the forward assist and still nothing. I raised my hand and the drill sergeant came and cleared my weapon. There was something peculiar about how he cleared it that made me uncomfortable and he could see it in my eyes. This upset him because he basically felt my discomfort was conveying a message that I didn't trust his experience in clearing a weapon. For a brief moment I could see that he wanted to point the weapon at me and pull the trigger to show that it was clear, but luckily he went against his instinct, pointed the weapon down range and pulled the trigger... it fired. After going over it in my head, I think what must have happened is that he pulled back the charging handle which cleared the round in the chamber and then dropped the magazine. As most know, he should have dropped the magazine first, and then pulled back the charging handle.
Did he learn?
Did THEY freak out?
@@Asdayasman He being a drill sergeant, I didn't really have the chance to ask.
@@damienmcneff7715 We both freaked out inwardly. (His eyes went wide open.)
Yes i buy this story. You will agree theres a lot if fake ones on here. For what its worth ill add mine, which our instructors told us had happened at a previous course. (Ctc lympstone. Uk. Royal marines) after a busy day, someone was cleaning his fn rifle in the barracks, had an accidental discharge, the round went through several walls and killed a guy sitting on the toilet.
Now, i never verified this story and we all just accepted it stony faced but they might have told us that to scare us a bit. They were very concerned about rifle drill anyway and would freak out if you made an arse of it.
"Never point a gun at anyone or anything you don't want to shoot" and "assume all guns are loaded" both go a long way.
The most dangerous gun is one that is unloaded.
Some of the best advice I still use from bootcamp. 🇺🇲
Those 'rules' are overly simplified and therefore not rules. Your guns spend the vast majority of their time pointed at things you don't want to shoot and there are times you must treat your gun as if it's not loaded.
@@DonziGT230 true. But the rules of firearms work together. As Paul said negligent discharges are usually a failure to follow several of the rules.
I have found that checking to make sure that a gun is unloaded every time is a good habbit even if I just saw someine check it. Because then it I just becomes second nature.
Not pointing it flagging people with my firearm whether I know it's empty not not. Is just good practice. For one they might not know it unloaded. It's also less likely to be pointed in an unsafe direction if there is a problem
Finally having you finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire is just good practice. If your not on the trigger and have a well maintained gun then the chance of the trigger being pulled by accident is a minute.
The whole thing is makeing rules that don't change and building safe habits.
It's when you become too comfortable that we are more likely to make mistakes.
Clearanceman2 amen
Your presentation style and concise explanations are top notch! Very informative and appreciated!
Seeing Paul Harrell pretend to be scared of a revolver was among one of the most cursed things I've seen today.
My grandpa drilled this stuff into my head for a long time before we ever went to the range, I still hear his voice when I handle my firearms.
Same here. I was taught how to shoot and handle guns safely when I was about five years old by my grandfather. I credit him for the importance I place on gun safety.
Thats creepy.
Your house may be haunted.
Same
Same with my old man and the 4 safety rules.
My grandpa didn't even let me handle his guns until I was 10. He drilled the 4 rules by making me recite them whenever the subject came up. He always said he would take me to the range when I was in high school. He died when I was 12. I miss him.
My dad is in his mid 50s, was in the Army for 21 years, has hunted for decades, and had his first ND last year. It can happen to even the best of us.
Thanks for being here.
Honesty counts for almost everything, when teaching SAFETY.
Without honesty, there can be no altruism.
Similar here. MP In the Guard from 05-12, Iraq 09-10, stayed active for an additional year 10-11. Then did security contracting and weapons instruction all over Afghanistan from 12-17. Had an ND in my back yard while teaching my friends how to shoot a 1911. Had it down range while demonstrating the grip safety on the back. The 1 fucking time I did not visually and physically inspect the chamber is the one time a live round was loaded. Scared everyone speechless and in a strong range voice I asked if everyone learned something from my negligence. Been working, running, and teaching guns for years and the one time I was not paranoid, is when I failed. Luckily the gun was down range and everyone was behind me. There is a gaping hole in our little range table from where a high quality .45 cannon balled it's way through.
I now use that gaping hole in the table to start each new instruction as an example of what WILL happen the second you lose respect for your tools.
@@krwiles Well said. Well done.
@@krwiles And that's why keeping the thing pointed away from anything that you don't want a gaping hole in goes a long way.
Glad no one got fucked up from that.
I got a new kel tec sub 2000 4 months ago. I had been working 80 hrs a week. I just got in late from being out of town and called the ffl and picked it up. I get home and load the mag in my room and leave the mag in my room. I go to the livingroom to fondle my new toy. I got tired of messing with the gun, so I go to my room, insert the magazine and put the gun away. About an hr later I go and get it again with the magazine in the gun. I drop the magazine and check the chamber and start messing with it again. I get tired of messing with it again and reinsert the magazine and set it beside me. 20 or 30 minutes later "about 11pm" I pick it up, charge it and pull the trigger. Sent a 9mm into the ceiling. I was tired and should not have been messing with the gun and broke many rules in the process.
What a well made informative video. I learned a lot about revolver mishaps! Even though I'm not a gun owner anymore, you never know what the future brings and knowing proper safe handling is always a good thing.
Can't ask for a better video on negligent discharge than this. Brilliant ! Thanks
When he says "we had to correct the situation"
Somthing tells me it wasn't a pleasant conversation
HA!!! I was thinking the same thing.
When you do something that could potentially get someone killed, they deal with it very thoroughly.
Being shot at by the enemy is enough without having to worry about getting shot by the guy next to you.
@@AnasatisTiMiniatis oh I agree was just making note that I love that the tone in that voice says alot
God. The idea of getting 'corrected' by Paul Harrel is - not gonna lie - a little terrifying.
I was hunting in some rough country and due to some loose rocks & over-estimation of my sure-footedness, I ended up going ass-over-tea-kettle through some brush. The rifle was on Safe and finger off the trigger, I held onto it, and other than some scratches on myself and a bruised ego... All seemed well after inspection and some self deprication.
Later on, I spotted some deer in the valley below. I set up, looked trough the glass and moved the selector to Fire... *BANG* ...it went off with my finger nowhere near the trigger. The deer took off and I had to take inventory to ensure I didn't crap myself... I hadn't.
I left it on a now expended bass casing and went back to camp. After unloading it and tearing it down, I found debris in the trigger housing.
I cleaned it out, reassembled it and did a function test... After making sure it was still unloaded about a dozen times... And it all checked out fine and functional.
So yeah, it was an accidental discharge by Paul's definition, but it still freaked the hell out of me and I still felt that I had failed to prevent it... For some time, the "What If" & "If Only" fairies had free rent in my head. All my years hunting, my time in the Army, and the classes I'd taken, didn't mean shit when that bullet took off addressed with "to whom it may concern" stamped on it.
I still have that Model 70 in the Gun Safe as a reminder that _"Murphy is an Optimist"._
Should get that engraved on the gun above the trigger
@@Airen130
🤣🤣🤣... I just might.
Get rid of that model 70. Chop it up. Destroy it.
@@lessharratt8719
Please don't have children... I'd hate to see how you'd treat them if they misbehave or fail to "live up to your standards".
Firearms equals children. You are truly insane.
What a great video.
Thank you, Paul, for putting this together for us!
This was excellent. I think you covered the topic more thoroughly than I have ever seen done.
This man is seriously a treasure. This channel is a free course that is chalk full of information.
I agree. BTW, the expression is "chock full." en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chock_full
But the info is common sen.....oh yeah never mind, I've met people 😐
@@HPaulHonsinger Enjoyed your humor!
I've got an ND from my armored truck days.
Our in- house instructor asked every crew doing rtb to take out their pistols, unload, disassemble and show him the condition of the firearm. A guy called Cliff saunters up all cool, pops the slide then catches the round in one motion, drops the Mag onto the table and then pulls the trigger. BOOOM, the bullet goes into the table. The instructor then explodes "Cliff, what the f----!?"
Guy behind him says, "Hey Cliff, you may wanna drop your magazine FIRST before jacking the round out and catching it."
No one was hurt, everyone was laughing at him mercilessly, and Cliff about crawled into the floor drain.
Is your name Cliff by any chance? ;-)
At least he had it pointed in a ‘safe’ direction.
@@elund408 I always cleared my gun at the sand barrel. Like a square, I always followed procedure.
why do they call him Cliff?
sounds fake :P
Probably the BEST video you've done. I will be showing this to all my kids. Thank you.
An old friend of mine blew a crater in my hardwood floor with a 8*57 Mauser. I was at work and he stopped by my house to wait for me to get out of work. Well he picked that Mauser up off my gun rack, opened the action to "check it" then when he closed the bolt he chambered one without knowing. I'm just glad he didn't shoot any of the neighbors or my dog. My dog is still terrified whenever anyone picks a gun up around her.
I have a friend that accidentally shot his mattress -- twice --- he also shot out the bathroom mirror, told his wife he did it hanging a picture ... I told him he should not own a gun.....
Keith Gray,
"... should not own a gun ..."
... nor have children.
The first time a person negligently discharges, its a negligent discharge. The second time onwards its negligent altogether
I shot my mattress the other day...
Oh yeah, well I shot the sheriff... But I did *NOT* shoot the deputy. 😎
Keith Gray that guy def needs to own a gun, and you need to record him.
My negligent discharge story:
"So anyway I started blastin'..."
The takeaway from all of this is to continue to watch this video until you understand every training point perfectly and then watch it another 100 times. Thumbs up.
Paul is truly an expert. Making a video with a topic as bold as "improper firearm handling" with perfect examples of AD/ND. Yet he did it all completely safe. When he started the rabbit example, I got really nervous when he actually fired and I had to rewatch every shot numerous times praying that he kept the barrel in a safe direction. I know he was probably shooting into a dirt mound with nobody stationed nearby or behind it. An expert like him follows all the rules of safety, as should you.
Scariest day of my life was my first slam fire (gun discharged when the slide was released and finger was OFF the trigger). Awareness of muzzle direction (and the grace of God) prevented a catastrophe.
Did God send you to your room?
@@jameschristiansson3137 God bless you
BWM don’t you mean hopefully you repaired or destroyed the gun?
I was lucky. My slam fire was after I had cleaned a new to me old rifle. It was unloaded when I cycled it but what a shock when it fired. Took it to a gunsmith and he couldn't duplicate the problem. I've had the rifle for over 50 years now with never a repeat but it really enforced the keep the muzzle in a safe direction rule.
A browning hi power overseas in Afghanistan did that . The gun plumbers told the SGT relax your good. But the ranks above never believed it and road him hard after that. He is and always was a good man .
"We had to correct the situation" *shudder*
That's when you end up spending some quality time sweeping the sand out of the desert.
@@MoltenMouseMetal "Go mop the motorpool, in the rain."
Someone got Smoked
latrine duty........
Reminds me of The Shining lmao “I corrected her, Mr. Torrence”
Thank you Paul for another excellent, on-point video. Several months ago I had my first ND with a semi auto 9mm. It happened at home in my den. Luckily no one else was home at the time (especially my wife). It was the common blunder of racking the slide before removing the mag. Not realizing what I had done I reflexively pulled the trigger and suddenly there was a very loud bang and my ears were ringing quite loudly. I was scared out of my wits thinking what the hell did I did I just do and then imagining what could have been. The muzzle was pointed down so the round went through the wall and into the back yard where it did no damage. I’m still not completely over it and have had moments reliving the episode but I sure as hell am deliberate and pay close attention to loading and unloading my firearms and visually/physically checking for an empty chamber.
It's to know that it's not just me. Thank you for sharing.
You're man enough to admit you made a mistake. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. But *learn*, and be glad it wasn't harder.
Man! Awesome presentation, Paul. A must-watch for sure!
I like how precise this guy is, would be a perfect instructor
In his other videos he says that he was
He was a instructor in the Marines and iirc won marksmanship contests while in the service.
@@blaxicanx I thought he said he was only an 11th heptagonal viceroy shooter.... Pfft... He's practically an amateur 😋
He is an instructor and a former Marine.
Yes Marines and army.
Once I came in from the field after hunting with a loaded 30-30. I usually would never bring a loaded weapon into the house, but on this day it was single digits and I was freezing. I couldn't feel my fingers, and I went to rack the rounds out of the chamber and magazine. Since my fingers were numb and I couldn't feel them, I also didn't have good spacial recognition of where they were in regard to the trigger. When I went to place my hand in the rear portion of the lever, I inadvertently pushed my first two fingers into the trigger guard at discharged the Firearm into the ceiling of my laundry room. I decided not to patch the hole in my ceiling so that it would serve as a reminder to me and as an object lesson to my children that ALL of the rules of gun safety need to be followed ALL of the time.
Knowing me I'd be like I'm not gonna unload it when my fingers are numb then I would forget to unload it later
Set it down on your dinner table or somewhere else obnoxious so that you remember what you need to do once your fingers warm up
@@zerosoma33 yes sir! Better idea than what I did.
@@Kenniii3 tbh I wouldn't blame you for that especially considering you had very little feeling to your fingers and you were just trying to warm up, at least you learned to stay on guard even when your freezing your ass off like that lol
#1 rule is: you ARE the "safety."
great video. showing a variety of a sequence of events leading up to an actual discharge. well done.
Always good to watch every couple months just to remind me to keep my mind on safety.
Former friend of mine had a negligent discharge with his bolt action 22 in my garage a couple years back... manually cycled the bolt with his finger on the trigger while the magazine had rounds in it. Bullet went through a florescent light bulb, through the metal light fixture, through the foam board, through the plywood, through the tar paper, through the shingles and kept going. Set the rifle down, said "I think I want to take some time away from guns" and left it there. Never offered to fix the damages. Now go back and read the first two words of my comment. "Former friend".
In you’re garage? Isn’t it a felony to fire a round in city limits?
I had a former friend who wanted to teach me how to rack the slide of my 1911A1 by putting the slide up against the edge of my wife's marble coffee table and shoved downwards. It took a large chip out of the edge of the table and BROKE half of the rear sight off of my 1911A1. "FORMER friend" also. Live and learn...
At least you gained a rifle.
@@davidledesma209 not in the United States. That would make it a felony to defend yourself and has been ruled to be a violation of the second amendment.
Francisco d'Anconia People go to jail for killing someone in there own property so I guess it’s not allowed
This video should be mandatory viewing as part of any firearms safety class.
I didn’t know I needed this ND lesson until now. I don’t even have a firearm or have ever shot one, but this feels necessary to know. Thanks
Paul is wearing those glasses because he took a few rounds in his daily routine and had to cover the glowing red light where the eye socket is located.
So...... Paul is a cyborg sent back to year 2020?
I'll be honest, I immediately felt a need to give him my clothes and my motorcycle...
Are you telling us because Paul is unstoppable he is in fact a terminator?
Paul is a terminator giving lecture on gun safety?
"I Will Be Exonerated"
I like this on as a quick refresher course as I don't get to the range as much as I should. Thanks Paul.
Very high quality material! Thank you for the content Paul!
Whenever I unload a firearm , I look into the chamber and say out loud “ visually unloaded “ then put my finger in the chamber after that and say “ physically unloaded “
Those two steps and verbal sequences have helped me never have an ND
M M
Great idea! I think I’ll start doing exactly that myself.
Just like checklists in aviation, standard operating procedures in e.g. armed forces or police, are used to minimise the chances of an “avoidable accidental discharge” AKA a negligent discharge.
Creating and following our own “personal SOPs” is an extremely simple method of avoiding NDs caused by complacent routine or ‘trusting’ the gun.
Michał
Glad I can help !
@Heyward Shepherd an pull the trigger to prove its empty, because I always know if it's empty
M M wears a belt... and suspenders.
Heyward Shepherd i had one while play it again
It's amazing how many times you will hear someone say "I thought it was empty". What also amazes me is how many people consider a firearm empty just because the chamber is empty, but then come to find out they have a loaded magazine inserted in the firearm.
A range I use to go to in Florida had a ND at the sales counter when a customer brought in his handgun for a trade in. The employee behind the counter asked the man if the gun was empty which the customer replied yes, the employee then racked the slide and pulled the trigger and shot the soda machine across the lobby. Nobody was physically hurt, but I believe the customer was banned from the range, and the employee was fired.
I heard the gun was fired too
And Trump did it. Lol
@@JamesS.254 Yeah that damn Trump, created this shit in Afghanistan now Biden has to mop up.
@@MikeNaples it was a "you're fired joke" , not sure where you thought Afghanistan was even brought up???
That whole issue started when his dad tried pulling out and couldnt even do that right
Paul you're such a legend. Love it when your videos still show up in my feed. Hope all is well and will be well. You deserve every subscription you've gotten over the years. From the first day, i knew you're a legend.
my dad and my grandfather taught me everything i know about gun safety and taught me when i was a child to always treat a gun as if it was loaded until you yourself have checked to make sure it is in fact properly empty. thankfully I've never had a negligent discharge in my life and hopefully i never will. I'm glad that i was able to identify all the red flags in your demonstrations as you were demonstrating them as it tells me that my father and his father before him taught me well.
I don't even own a gun, but I love this guy.
I would say I only bought a gun after watching many of Paul's videos - sober but not somber presentation of material.
me too ryan, me too.
I live in a country where civilians can't own firearms and I still love this guy.
I wonder if I can even buy one, haven’t even tried since I don’t have the necesery identifications
He is like the lockpicking lawyer, but with guns. Don't even have to like the subject to enjoy the presentation.
Paul - retired mil & LE weapons instructor here. A narc (an ‘I KNOW GUNS DAMMIT’ country boy) with a 1911 favored mexican carry (strong side kidney). During a bust, said 1911 was presented, off safe, and not fired. Said yokel replaced 1911 in waistband with: thumb safety still off, grip safety depressed, and finger inside trigger guard. Finger stopped on belt, 1911 continued into pants, motion of trigger relative to 1911 resulted in trigger/sear/hammer interfaces releasing hammer, which struck firing pin which lit off primer WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT’S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN in those circumstances.
Said dolt received bullet furrow down leg. He also initiated a lawsuit against Colt patent FA inc, which absurdity Colt promptly rewarded with an egregiously large monetary settlement.
I have ever since related this tale in my academy firearms classes - name and all. He has tried to bully me into at least changing his name, but I replied that ‘we only do that to protect the innocent!’
I enjoy your videos immensely, probably because you and I are of one mind on most of your material, and because your manner of presentation and mine are very similar. Must be the GI blood.
Sometimes they settle when they shouldn't, just because it is less costly than fighting it. Shame.
_"He has tried to bully me into at least changing his name, but I replied that ‘we only do that to protect the innocent!’"_
ahahahahahaha
People shouldn't be able to sue Companies for their own stupidity.