Cheer Readers but they're not to be trusted

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2018
  • The subtitles, mouth animations and voices are all separate cues. The actual gameplay is in it's own separate block. This was easy.
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Komentáře • 928

  • @shadowandfriends1370
    @shadowandfriends1370 Před 3 lety +4978

    People who haven’t played the game before: oh this is nice
    people who played the game: *internal screening in agony *

    • @crys_cornflakez
      @crys_cornflakez Před 3 lety +14

      Same lmao

    • @R4GNAR0G
      @R4GNAR0G Před 3 lety +20

      Nah. Just visible confusion.

    • @LucarioDoT
      @LucarioDoT Před 3 lety +101

      Me, who hasn't played it: Oh God this is pain. Nothing sounds right

    • @johnlewis2134
      @johnlewis2134 Před 3 lety +45

      @@TestPostPleaseIgnore Even with the correct audio, this level is one of the hardest

    • @AkagiMaru
      @AkagiMaru Před 3 lety +9

      This makes me uncomfortable

  • @finalechance7756
    @finalechance7756 Před 3 lety +3790

    Cheer Readers? More like Cheer _Misleaders_ .

  • @foof6498
    @foof6498 Před 5 lety +6166

    Cheer Readers except blind people can't play it.

    • @val-mz1ej
      @val-mz1ej Před 5 lety +75

      Mnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnonomnomnom
      blind and deaf can't.

    • @fuitbythefoot
      @fuitbythefoot Před 5 lety +328

      @@val-mz1ej why are deaf people even playing a rhythm game

    • @val-mz1ej
      @val-mz1ej Před 5 lety +43

      飞轮海
      beats me tbh

    • @MWeebposting
      @MWeebposting Před 4 lety +283

      There's actually still a unique distinction in the sound of them flipping the books and the whistles. If you could filter out the voices, you could do this blind

    • @professoryeetus8955
      @professoryeetus8955 Před 4 lety

      Ong a JoeJoe username?? 😳

  • @Some__Guy
    @Some__Guy Před 3 lety +8120

    As someone who has never played this game and keeps getting recommended these videos, I have no idea what's happening.

    • @soupyramen3752
      @soupyramen3752 Před 3 lety +417

      This is from a rhythm game called Rhythm Heaven Fever!

    • @ironickomedakin
      @ironickomedakin Před 3 lety +627

      I've never played it but I have a slight obsession now thanks youtube

    • @Rakrune
      @Rakrune Před 3 lety +170

      as someone who has...same honestly

    • @lovelovemikira9708
      @lovelovemikira9708 Před 3 lety +44

      Same lmao

    • @greenmint984
      @greenmint984 Před 3 lety +506

      basically, this is a rhythm game. In this minigame, the cues are offbeat to the music so it's just confusing

  • @marioandtyler
    @marioandtyler Před 5 lety +4802

    One, two, three! OK, it's-

  • @enque2970
    @enque2970 Před 3 lety +2765

    _Oh, sorry girls, the camera's battery ran out_

  • @standardemc5713
    @standardemc5713 Před 5 lety +3474

    i thought this meant theyd have like knives or something

    • @wooloo4194
      @wooloo4194 Před 4 lety +350

      let's go murder bunch'a kids

    • @deniseslade5840
      @deniseslade5840 Před 3 lety +41

      @@wooloo4194 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @zefanyalt5944
      @zefanyalt5944 Před 3 lety +60

      @@wooloo4194 ok, it's on!

    • @qbj
      @qbj Před 3 lety +80

      I kept waiting for the "OK, IT'S ON!" picture to be a jumpscare, so I didn't realize what was actually going on for a good 30 seconds.

    • @RocksPolarBear
      @RocksPolarBear Před 3 lety +3

      The likes are a 666 so I can’t like it but I’ll let you know that I like this comment

  • @Chainchompgamer
    @Chainchompgamer Před 5 lety +3927

    I knew those glasses were hiding their intentions

  • @lavaknight3682
    @lavaknight3682 Před 3 lety +682

    Imagine asking your mom if you could join the cheer leaders and instead she drives you to a shop called “Cheer Readers”

    • @anidiot7594
      @anidiot7594 Před 2 lety +8

      I keep seeing this as the club showing the newbie some stuff while they think: wtf

    • @honeybadger6330
      @honeybadger6330 Před rokem +1

      Lose your asian accent

    • @retsuretsuko
      @retsuretsuko Před 8 měsíci

      I'm gonna join cheer readers instead

  • @herothecrow994
    @herothecrow994 Před 3 lety +325

    For anyone confused, this video is playing the audio of Cheer Readers while the actual cues are the same as Cheer Readers 2, the harder version, and the voice lines are the main reason why the game is playable.

    • @tox2564
      @tox2564  Před 3 lety +77

      it's a mod, not "playing the audio of Cheer Readers".
      If it were, it wouldn't sound so convincing

    • @gumbitoicic9977
      @gumbitoicic9977 Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@tox2564it's still kinda doing that

    • @iwersonsch5131
      @iwersonsch5131 Před 6 měsíci +7

      The voice lines are so good that blindfolded speedruns are competitive with visual (and there are ways to save and lose time in this game)

    • @undefined06855
      @undefined06855 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@gumbitoicic9977also the subtitles match the audio, which wouldn't be possible without a mod or insanely good editing

    • @gumbitoicic9977
      @gumbitoicic9977 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @undefined06855 I'm not dismissing the fact that it's a mod, it's just that it's still playing the audio of Cheer Readers 1, and there are other things

  • @fuitbythefoot
    @fuitbythefoot Před 5 lety +1576

    Cheer Readers but they don't really care

    • @zhouhuanyue
      @zhouhuanyue Před 5 lety +1

      中國人呢?

    • @zhouhuanyue
      @zhouhuanyue Před 5 lety +6

      Whoops my bad

    • @speedyyoshi4649
      @speedyyoshi4649 Před 4 lety +1

      What he meant to say was: What about Chinese?

    • @lilsmolcrow
      @lilsmolcrow Před 3 lety +6

      @@fuitbythefoot ehm Asian isn't a language tho

    • @fuitbythefoot
      @fuitbythefoot Před 3 lety +8

      @@lilsmolcrow yes it is, thats almost like saying english is a language

  • @makeitsweetsweetsweet
    @makeitsweetsweetsweet Před 5 lety +1422

    Isn’t that the routine from Cheer Readers 2, but with the style of Cheer Readers 1, Song, and Voice cues from the first one?
    Also the extra ‘Ra Ra Sis Boom Bah Boom’ that isn’t present in the sequel threw off the whole thing-

    • @tox2564
      @tox2564  Před 5 lety +426

      Yeah, it was a low effort mod to show what's possible with this game.

    • @makeitsweetsweetsweet
      @makeitsweetsweetsweet Před 5 lety +176

      Mariofan5000 “”””Low Effort””””
      If this is low effort and it’s literally amazing then I have high hopes for this channel.

    • @supportsciencistgaming4761
      @supportsciencistgaming4761 Před 3 lety +4

      Finally
      Someone realized

    • @stardasharin
      @stardasharin Před 3 lety

      ah i didnt see this before my comment haha sorry

    • @purpleisdebeste
      @purpleisdebeste Před 3 lety +1

      @@tox2564 Oh okay, that makes sense. I thought it was just awful.

  • @Weezygeeza97
    @Weezygeeza97 Před 3 lety +154

    I've watched psychological horror movies that gave me less anxiety than this

  • @alicered4198
    @alicered4198 Před 3 lety +404

    "Let's go read a bunch of books!"
    ... should someone tell them their books don't have words?

    • @whitegemgames
      @whitegemgames Před 3 lety +36

      They’re a little confused but they got the spirit.

    • @thineevee7345
      @thineevee7345 Před 3 lety

      @@whitegemgames ye

    • @earlessaxolotl8632
      @earlessaxolotl8632 Před 3 lety +6

      They have "book" on it lol

    • @bakedgoldfish45
      @bakedgoldfish45 Před 3 lety

      [INSERT LIBRARIAN'S NAME HERE], please calm down. I'm sure those weren't real books, just props.

  • @PeeWeeDailey
    @PeeWeeDailey Před 5 lety +312

    Cheer Readers but the club leader asked for less talking during the performance

  • @Prism00n
    @Prism00n Před 3 lety +181

    this looks like it’d be absolutely infuriating to play.
    that being said, now i want to

  • @CyanSoCalico
    @CyanSoCalico Před 4 lety +165

    The two times they just scream "YAY" during their voice lines kills me

  • @spongyoshi
    @spongyoshi Před 5 lety +717

    That ending killed me for some reason xD

  • @user-sl4rh3dv4u
    @user-sl4rh3dv4u Před 3 lety +463

    I didn’t understand this until I played the actual thing
    Oh god what have you done

    • @ptmars9586
      @ptmars9586 Před 3 lety +100

      I saw this before buying this game and thought, “okay, that looks fine, the cues are kinda weird but I don’t see much difference”, but now this is the most cursed thing ever

    • @yarn7733
      @yarn7733 Před 3 lety +5

      Imagine playing this

    • @ariki9804
      @ariki9804 Před 3 lety +17

      i didn't play this level yet
      so I tried tapping my knee as if I was pressing a
      once I did that, I finally understood

    • @camelcam6008
      @camelcam6008 Před 3 lety +1

      I dont understand, what the hell is this

    • @yarn7733
      @yarn7733 Před 3 lety +15

      Camel Cam Its a rhythm game called rhythm heaven
      So there in rh there are all these minigames and one of them cheer readers and in that one you have to press a when its your turn to flip the book (you’re the one on bottom right )
      So when they say one two three each row flips their books on the number, row one flips at one, row two on two and row three on three. Now for ok it its on so you press a when you have to flip you’re book and this time its columns not rows and for each column they say a word. Rah rah sis boom bah boom and lets go read a bunch of books are the same, where top left flips and then the one next and under her flip and the same happens for all of them so it looks like a shockwave.
      For Ok its on its up to you
      You have to press and hold a and b to spin the book and press a when they start saying Its up to you you have to release a and b to open the book and make a picture

  • @great_gaming_nerd6400
    @great_gaming_nerd6400 Před 5 lety +176

    This video in one sentence:
    Cheer readers but thay forgot to not bring thayer ear phones and NOT to be listening to the cheer readers 2 commands.

  • @pureawkwardness415
    @pureawkwardness415 Před 4 lety +258

    The Library Pep Squad is ready for your training! Only this time, they're going to give you quite a challenge. Memorize your controls, and don't get messed up by the mismatched cues! (No Practice!)

    • @qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa
      @qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa Před 2 lety +15

      Cheer midleaders

    • @mistletoecanary
      @mistletoecanary Před 2 lety +3

      “Looks like you’re working overtime at the Screwbot Factory, but be careful! Your partner tonight is sleek, and testing is happening on the next line over…don’t be confused by the extra cues! (And no practice, obviously.)”

  • @sharkatzor
    @sharkatzor Před 3 lety +86

    I watched this a while ago before really getting into rhythm heaven and I didn’t get what was wrong with it
    After getting a superb on every game in megamix I found this video again and my jaw legitimately dropped this is so cursed

  • @peo9741
    @peo9741 Před 5 lety +50

    Cheer Reader but the other ones asume that you already know the pattern

  • @samanthabest8926
    @samanthabest8926 Před 5 lety +87

    Cheer readers but they were kicked out before their performance was over

  • @danielyuan9862
    @danielyuan9862 Před rokem +32

    I liked how sometimes the voices are correct, so you'll never know if you are hitting the right cue.

  • @Diathan
    @Diathan Před 3 lety +60

    some of these are okay, but all the “let’s go read a bunch of books” parts were pain

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 Před rokem +2

      I agree, I would do anything do avoid reading a buncha books.

  • @Hinatazaka46_Poka
    @Hinatazaka46_Poka Před 5 lety +143

    Cheer Readers 3

  • @neojester
    @neojester Před 5 lety +529

    Cursed

  • @kyubeyz_7062
    @kyubeyz_7062 Před 5 lety +292

    1:17 This is just terrible. The commands both use a whistle.

    • @fregi8779
      @fregi8779 Před 5 lety +55

      "Let's go read a bunch of books!" uses one whistle
      "OK, It's on!" uses two whistles

  • @MargoSizemore
    @MargoSizemore Před 4 lety +36

    I bet this'd still be playable with no voices, by the flipping sounds and the whistle.

    • @ThePoketrix
      @ThePoketrix Před 3 lety +1

      OP did Superb it

    • @MargoSizemore
      @MargoSizemore Před 3 lety +3

      @@ThePoketrix I mean without the voices entirely.

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 Před rokem +7

      @@MargoSizemore yes, the voices were meant to throw you off

  • @asupapas2074
    @asupapas2074 Před 3 lety +6

    I had no idea what was happening but my band kid senses caused me to realize they were off somehow, didn’t know how until I read the comments lol

  • @dragotized969
    @dragotized969 Před 3 lety +27

    This gives me an existential level of PTSD and I've never even played rhythm heaven fever.

  • @nunyab-
    @nunyab- Před 3 lety +9

    while i was watching, i got a call from an unknown number in a different state and my phone shut down before i could decide whether i was gonna answer. they really can’t be trusted

  • @snakeorbreak6258
    @snakeorbreak6258 Před 3 lety +20

    I knew they were hiding something, with their omni-sided boards that appear to only have two sides!

    • @grenadedevourer
      @grenadedevourer Před 2 lety +5

      I believe they're books! Front cover is white, back cover is black, and when they show the image they're opening up to a specific page and showing two pages at once.

  • @xicision2533
    @xicision2533 Před 3 lety +11

    They are those types of people to flip the book while you're still reading

  • @ezekoren
    @ezekoren Před 3 lety +10

    This is where the visual players rise up

  • @mixolydianr
    @mixolydianr Před 3 lety +22

    i choked on my drink and magically coughed in the same rhythm. ouch.

  • @tehgrandminimus
    @tehgrandminimus Před 5 lety +115

    OK, i

    • @fuitbythefoot
      @fuitbythefoot Před 5 lety +11

      *_S a v i n g . . ._*

    • @peachsolocup
      @peachsolocup Před 3 lety +9

      @@fuitbythefoot
      Cheers and Jeers
      Great cheering!
      ...And you kept in sync where it counted
      Superb!

    • @mrsafton1300
      @mrsafton1300 Před 3 lety +5

      @@peachsolocup
      Thanks to you, I passed!

  • @great_gaming_nerd6400
    @great_gaming_nerd6400 Před 5 lety +51

    when you get lazy 1:35

    • @OriginalGameteer
      @OriginalGameteer Před 3 lety +5

      "Oh kay i-"

    • @POElingo
      @POElingo Před 3 lety

      That one cheerleader after the performance: Awwwww man, I was waiting for that.

  • @moonshift2535
    @moonshift2535 Před 3 lety +11

    Great cheering!
    …And you kept in sync where it conted.
    -Cheers and Jeers

  • @sammykenobi6307
    @sammykenobi6307 Před 3 lety +4

    Picture this:
    It’s 2011, you go to the school library to hang out during lunch, you arrive, there are 12 girls on a stage, they start cheerleading and telling you to read a bunch of books while holding up a cardboard Chinese dragon.

  • @Killble
    @Killble Před 5 lety +38

    Oh this is cheer readers 2

  • @Octowoman2419
    @Octowoman2419 Před 5 lety +11

    They're literally saying their words but they can't take control of their books

  • @nikolaynicolasnikolayevich

    This is what anxiety looks like

  • @jestaplushgal3528
    @jestaplushgal3528 Před 3 lety +5

    the fact that sometimes it syncs up correctly is giving making me panic even more

  • @unitymask
    @unitymask Před 3 lety +8

    i thought there would be a meme in the "ok it's on" images, not this hell

  • @_lun4r_
    @_lun4r_ Před 5 lety +4

    Cheer Readers but they are cheering according to Cheer Readers 2

  • @Salt_Eater1
    @Salt_Eater1 Před 4 lety +4

    A N D T H I S W H Y Y O U L I S T E N FOR Q U E S F O R A P E R F E C T

  • @TIDDLYWINKS1st
    @TIDDLYWINKS1st Před 3 lety +5

    "Rah rah sis boom ba boom"
    - Cheer Readers
    Best qoute.

    • @POElingo
      @POElingo Před 2 lety +1

      *Entire school exploads*
      The Pep-Squad Cheer Readers not realizing that their books were bombs: *Oh Crap*
      *directed by Michael Bay*

  • @fruitdirt7269
    @fruitdirt7269 Před 5 lety +8

    Cheer readers but you missed a rehearsal

  • @ambergirl986
    @ambergirl986 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m convinced this is what happens in my game

  • @colleenjohnson6083
    @colleenjohnson6083 Před 3 lety +1

    This is the kind of thing where you can't tell but you just know that something isn't right

  • @ChrispyBoiYTP
    @ChrispyBoiYTP Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks to you, I passed!
    More like passed away because apparently 100 rhythm heaven fans had a stroke watching this including me

  • @onepersons79
    @onepersons79 Před 3 lety +3

    I hate this. But thank you for showing me the evil potential of this game. Overall 11/10 video.

  • @xCheesyDoodles
    @xCheesyDoodles Před 3 lety +1

    This stresses me out far more than it should.

  • @CrippIusDungledeen
    @CrippIusDungledeen Před 2 lety

    why do i love this so much

  • @MortalMercury
    @MortalMercury Před 5 lety +21

    I would really like to hear it without voice cues

    • @brirain6022
      @brirain6022 Před 4 lety +11

      You would just hear the book turning from cheer readers 2

    • @MortalMercury
      @MortalMercury Před 3 lety

      @@brirain6022 Indeed, that's what I was aiming for.

  • @milkii_tea
    @milkii_tea Před 3 lety +3

    i don’t know what’s meant to be happening

  • @ericwallace1484
    @ericwallace1484 Před 3 lety +2

    I keep rewatching 0:33 and I am losing a bit of sanity each time. They put it BETWEEN one and two? AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 Před rokem

      Yes, in "rah-rah sis boom bah BOOM", the "BOOM" is 2 and a half beats after the first "rah", which is on beat.

  • @yutosaki7771
    @yutosaki7771 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for providing something both cursed and pretty cool

  • @poink1777
    @poink1777 Před 3 lety +3

    This took me too long to figure out what was wrong. This is cursed

  • @abandonedchannel2387
    @abandonedchannel2387 Před 4 lety +4

    This gave me anxiety. How could you.

  • @Ashurion-Neonix
    @Ashurion-Neonix Před 3 lety +2

    This is one of the trippiest things I've ever seen.

  • @suicidalloafofbread2009
    @suicidalloafofbread2009 Před 3 lety +1

    I would absolutely play this version of the minigame

  • @weavabird
    @weavabird Před 5 lety +33

    this is painful to watch

  • @great_gaming_nerd6400
    @great_gaming_nerd6400 Před 5 lety +11

    Wean i heard JUST the books at the beginning i just laughed and i think thayer should be a tempo up of this
    Can someone make that for me please(:

  • @madstellaris3176
    @madstellaris3176 Před 3 lety +1

    I haven't played the game, but I've watched too many of these that I know what's going on

  • @SirPablito
    @SirPablito Před 3 lety +1

    Let's go read a bunch of books!
    - No one

  • @wileyjohnson5955
    @wileyjohnson5955 Před 3 lety +6

    Ok, but imagine someone watching this who has no idea what it's suppose to sound like.

  • @sp4rky803
    @sp4rky803 Před 5 lety +5

    Was this hard to play?

    • @tox2564
      @tox2564  Před 5 lety +5

      Not very
      I only had to follow the books and not the voices. And the fact that it was slowed down by lag helped a little I guess.

  • @fenirusavage6117
    @fenirusavage6117 Před 3 lety +1

    They’re already untrusted enough with the pinch release move they pulled off and your making it harder!

  • @JBRedux
    @JBRedux Před 3 lety +1

    When you solve the problem the wrong way and still get the correct answer

  • @hauntedmedic373
    @hauntedmedic373 Před 3 lety

    I cant unseen and unhear the things that just happened

  • @Korbyxd399
    @Korbyxd399 Před 2 lety +1

    Although I’ve never played this masterpiece this really hurts

  • @caseydewitt6236
    @caseydewitt6236 Před rokem +2

    I'm extremely tired and the abrupt cut-off killed me.
    P.S. This actually sounds really good. It's like adding an extra rhythm since their voices don't follow the book patterns.

  • @kizuna2225
    @kizuna2225 Před 2 lety

    This made me feel unpleasant pressure in my chest which I can only describe as anxiety

  • @nocarbonationtm21
    @nocarbonationtm21 Před 3 lety +2

    I don't understand what this is or why it was in my recommended but it's and absolute BOP

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 Před 3 lety +2

      yeah it slaps but as someone who actually plays this game i hate it

  • @PoisonSpecs
    @PoisonSpecs Před 6 měsíci

    I actually really enjoyed attempting to tap along with that. Good challenge

  • @xemoni2682
    @xemoni2682 Před 2 lety +1

    this is terrifying and it would be a pain in the as* to play, but now I want to just for the challenge 🗿🗿

  • @ReddGier
    @ReddGier Před 3 lety

    This fills me with a rage I have never felt before

  • @GurenDarius
    @GurenDarius Před rokem

    Aside from the ending, i absolutely love this. Cheer leaders is my favourite game in the series, and having this one with different rhythms is actually very interesting. I like it!

    • @tox2564
      @tox2564  Před rokem +1

      It's just the gameplay patterns from Cheer Readers 2 copied onto the first to show how versatile the code for this game is, nameplay that the mouth movements, voice clips, and subtitles are all handled independently from the actual inputs and from each other, when I discovered that I thought this would be a quick and easy way to showcase it

  • @witherblaze
    @witherblaze Před 3 lety +1

    You know the drum part in "Rite of Spring"? This feels like that

  • @McMerlin11
    @McMerlin11 Před 3 lety

    I have no idea what’s going on but this is a bop

  • @NuclearRaven13
    @NuclearRaven13 Před 3 lety +1

    Congratulations you invented Cheer Readers 3

  • @macmadness5932
    @macmadness5932 Před 2 lety

    this actually seems like a ton of fun to play

  • @name6953
    @name6953 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I tried playing along with my wii remote. Bad idea, i threw it at my mom

  • @AgentKilo
    @AgentKilo Před 3 lety +2

    The worst part is that it sometimes is normal

  • @kitariauthor5943
    @kitariauthor5943 Před 3 lety

    Since I have no idea why this is supposed to be cursed, I found this kinda satisfying and catchy.

  • @rabich0
    @rabich0 Před 3 lety +1

    It took me a while to realize they were opening the books-

  • @SaionjiWorld
    @SaionjiWorld Před 2 lety

    the title makes me lol, I love this game

  • @TibbyII
    @TibbyII Před 5 lety

    This made me anxious

  • @jacksepticeyesdadisburning7982

    I'm going to need a cheer reader of my own to recover from this anguish

  • @wannoorfaiezah1972
    @wannoorfaiezah1972 Před rokem

    This is litteral pain

  • @elijahdage5523
    @elijahdage5523 Před 3 lety

    I need an actual mod of this. I'll be fun watching my muscle memory destroy itself.

  • @ElijahJosephMariano
    @ElijahJosephMariano Před 3 lety

    the syncopation is pleasant yet it hurts my brain to have to listen to it

  • @DinoJoworge
    @DinoJoworge Před 3 lety +1

    Im having a mental breakdown because of this

  • @_saphrogy_9623
    @_saphrogy_9623 Před 3 lety

    After watching this a second time, I realized what was wrong. God, I don't know how to feel. It's all off. I can't unsee it anymore.

  • @mossymagicks
    @mossymagicks Před rokem

    this seems surprisingly playable

  • @junsean2094
    @junsean2094 Před 3 lety +2

    I had a fun idea, where if there's a randomizer mod for this entire game, that would be intense chaos :')

    • @tox2564
      @tox2564  Před 3 lety +1

      how would that work?

    • @junsean2094
      @junsean2094 Před 3 lety

      well, basically the game won't ever get a repeated pattern-
      Each time you play a game, it will always give you random rhythm patterns, and it won't the same pattern as the last one that's already played for next play, so you won't expect what comes next:)
      I thought it would be fun to re-experience the game again :D

  • @mewhower
    @mewhower Před 3 lety +1

    cheer readers but instead of having to listen to it, you have to look at it