Silent Hill: Origins | A Complete History and Retrospective
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Hey Dad,
We're heading back to Silent Hill, without Team Silent this time. Can a western studio do the series justice? Let's take a look at Silent Hill: Origins.
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CHAPTERS
Intro - 0:00
Development - 1:38
Silent Hill: Origins - 4:09
Endings - 42:30
The Real Story - 43:27
Final Thoughts - 45:16 - Hry
I love how everyone is angry at the trucker guy for getting in the way when he just wants to leave the town and nobody wants to help him.
Yeah, their own arrogance and ego was their downfall for letting Travis unintentionally stop their plans.
Well he wasn't trying hard enough. 😆
Mmmmm
Because travis, if you notice it, is socially awkward when he tries to interact with them, either they leave him with disposition of his own or kill him preemptively. It is clear that he cannot be easily manipulated since he talk less and ignores their advances, he was, in heartedly persistent in his concern with Alessa and at the same time cruel and cold when someone tries to hinder him.
He's different from the previous protagonists of silent hill series.
The final boss in this game is the same final boss in the 1st game?
You're the best kid a dad could ask for. Quality, consistency, personality. Makes you wonder who raised the rest of the rabble.
Can't wait until he has a crossover/cameo with Renn.
Travis mid fight
Travis: Oh hold on a sec. *Searches inventory and thinks what to use next
Nurse: *Waits*
Travis: *Pulls out TV*
Nurse: AYO WTF!?
Travis: *Dumps TV on Nurse*
Typewriter : Put me in coach.
I feel like this could've benefited from Sam Barlow's second interview that addresses it pretty well: "Unfortunately there were some problems there and the game they were making was not in the best shape. We hadn't done anything to deserve to work on Silent Hill, but we worked very well as a team, had strong skill sets and, well... we were available. At that point there wasn't a huge amount of time to get the game done. But we insisted that we needed to re-do a lot of the game in order to make it something that wouldn't embarrass the franchise. The game we shipped wasn't perfect - and I'd personally question even the idea of a prequel to Silent Hill - but it was much, much better than what might have been."
Origins needed time the studio wasn't given, and most of it's problem are rooted in that. This was a story written and redesigned in a week, and crunched out in a YEAR. It puts the game in a weird place of being sub optimal, but at the same time impressive for the devs and I can't help but respect them dearly for their work in trying to honor the franchise. I'm just really glad they got green lit to make their own installment with SM because they deserved it after saving Konami and us from something worse than even HC or DP
Also I like this series of retrospectives and great job overall btw, but is the PSP port really the best way to experience this game for review? Even if the port was good as someone who's only played the PS2 version on the PS2 itself it's really apparent why no one would find it a bit scary after watching this footage. It's almost like experiencing silent hill 2 through the HD collection with it just seeming like a worse time overall. Still not flawless but visually there's two instances of subtle body language from Travis I remember off the top of my head that's just completely smudged away by the PSP graphics
TL;DR
I found out I'm an Origins Apologist
Thank you for the insight. it is always great to hear from the devs postmortem.
I have always been confused why Konami would give small teams with little previous output a big IP like Silent Hill AND give the team little time and budget. It's like Konami doesn't want the greatest output possible within reason.
The PSP version was the original version and the PS2 version was the port. I've played the PS2 version and aside from it looking a bit nicer it's not that different and it still has the same problems: feeling like a fanfiction of the SH1 characters, cluttered and messy inventory due to the way weapons work, removing the scare factor by letting the player toggle the Otherworld on and off and just being overall a fairly boring experience at least to me. I don't really know why it felt it was needed to tell yet another Alessa story when that chapter is already told and closed
@@restlessdreams17 Never said it would improve anything else, but the visuals. The PSP is just the worst version to look at and is the most rushed since the port got worked on outside of the ridiculous 1 year time crunch + hardware. Although I have to respectfully disagree about the mirrors, the control really made me dread running out of rooms to check and knowing I'd have to go to the Otherworld soon. The only time a transition surprised me was the burnt hotel in 2, all the others were clearly telegraphed in the cutscene prior to the swap and never really scared me.
Even Sam Barlow questioned Origins story, so only Konami really knows. We can speculate they were trying to pander to people who only watched the movie. Everything else they do is pretty predictable at this point. If a new console comes out Konami will throw the title at it, cannibalize whatever worked in 1-4 for a story, and then add in whatever mechanic/play style that's popular at the time. I would bet money that rumors on the new game is heavily inspired by the PS5 release and will be some Life is Strange/Telltale crap we'll all hate.
Apologists for conventionally 'bad' media always have the best, most thoughtful and passionate takes on fiction.
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Check out this video. It might change your mind and give you a somewhat greater appreciation for the mirror mechanic.
My mom loves the silent hill games. Might rewatch all these retrospectives with her today for mother's day.
Awe that sounds like an excellent plan. Hope she enjoyed it. I can’t wait til our children are old enough to play them :) we are gigantic fans ❤
I feel that the inventory UI kinda fits with Travis' personality considering he's a dude with issues and with the bad ending implying he's a serial killer makes the polaroid room and the polaroid UI make sense. Also the mirrors in my headcanon are how the town wants to imply he's not all he seems
I think it makes sense thematically but just doesn't work very well from a design perspective.
Still looks very messy lol
Of all the things that could be related in some sort of way, i never ,in a million years, would have expected to hear about Scrubs on a Silent Hill retrospective.
I think Origins works best for people that are new to Silent Hill, imo. Why? This was my first SH, despite its problems i remember that even when it was a voluntary choice, i was scared of having to go into the mirror world because the atmosphere was pretty scary with all its harsh colors and the monsters.
While the story isn't amazing, i honestly think they should have picked between making the story all about Travis or all about the cult, it brought intrigue from within me and made me want to play the games to know what happened before (or in this case, after the events of this game).
Honestly I agree it looks like a great game if it's your first time playing (it's better than homecoming at least)
Thanks for putting so much time and effort into these videos, I've really enjoyed drawing while listening to this Silent Hill series. Keep it up!
I remember watching your creepy pasta videos with your amazing drawings in highschool Jordan.
Thanks for watching Dad!
Same here.
Man, he really came outta nowhere too, right? I managed to get hip to this channel early on, and to be such a young guy he's always been good at talking. I say that as someone not so good at it lol. Like, he never stutters, never flubs or fucks up, and never has even in his earliest vids. Clearly speaking and conveying thoughts is one of those things that's easy to take for granted until you realize that shit can be quite difficult without putting the work in. I had to get a couple people within the VA system to give me a hand on doing that for interviews, and I'm still not that great at it. I'm just more aware of how much I suck at it hah.
@@johnnybensonitis7853 right. Our Sons' legacy of Kain video made watch playthroughs after being a kid and I loved watching my dad play Blood Omen 2 since then I've admired Sons videos even if I've never touched the games
What perfect timing, I had JUST finished binging the other retrospectives this morning! Excellent work as always champ!
Why are you calling him champ? You have to understand that as his father it is awkward to see another man call him that.
Origins is one of my favorites. May that be from the abundance of times I've played it because of convenience or the general themes. To me it's like a comfort junk food type thing. Yeah it's not the best, but it's quick and hits the spot if you're down for a creepy mood. Headphones highly recommended
I feel the same way about Devil May Cry 2, so I can relate to that.
Thanks Son,It's Mother Day ,but you never fail to deliver joy.
I'm so proud of how consistently good your videos are, Son. This is why you've always been my favorite.
this game was actually pretty damn good as far as post team silent games go.
This game is my favorite Silent Hill after the 1 -3. I understand people have issues with it. I was so excited when it was ported to PS2 because I didn't own a PSP at the time. I sure enjoyed the hell out of it even though it was a portable game.
I feel for you. I bought this on PS2 first and quit halfway through when I couldn't see anything. I played on my PSP years later and wow...
I played it on release on the PSP, it was a great experience.
@@JourneyMN wonderful experience on psp as a teenager. You'd find all the worst times to boot the game up and get scared trying to be a hero.
Honey, wake up! our favorite son just posted a new video!!
This rules man!
Thanks so much!
Im so happy i found this channel. In the last few days ive watched the legacy of kain and all the silent hill videos. Keep them coming.
What a fantastic video series. I really appreciate not only the top notch quality, but the fact you actually played this game. And I appreciate you going through the trouble of playing these older games via emulation or different system just to get the games working well enough. And you even show every puzzle, mechanic, and story bit you talk about, which is amazing. If I were Konami, I would definitely hire you as a consultant for future SH games.
I only played the first four SH games. So it was a real please to watch your complete and detailed videos about the other games I missed.
The algorithm gods were good to me to randomly suggest one of your amazing videos and I'm lucky I clicked on it. :)
Now I'll go watch the previous SH games that I did play to take a nice nostalgia ride down memory lane since the SH IP is special to me. I wish I can find a detailed analysis like yours about the SH movies as well since I like everything Silent Hill. :)
I'm so dang proud of what you're doing Son! You mentioned in one of your streams how some of the best retrospectives come from a personal place. And you're all up in that space! ❤️
Yes! I was waiting for this one after finishing your 1-4 the past few days! Awesome timing!
You made me proud son.
Looks like you're winning son.
I just binged your other videos and I SO excited a new one is out! I love your approach to discussing these games. Despite being pretty familiar with them it's always awesome to hear a different perspective and always learn something new. I am very excited for the one on "Downpour"!
Dude, thanks for those videos about SH series. I've always wanted to play them again sometime but never had time to play it. Your videos is like playing these games but much faster with each and every important detail. Great work!
Found your channel today and have been binging the Silent hill videos and WHAT DO YOU KNOW, another one. Thanks chief.
Your other dad and I are proud of you, son. You'll do great things
Dude I really love your content. Glad you did that Fable Retrospective that got you popping up in my "fable speedrunner algorithm"
Keep up the good work, son, yer doin your old dad real proud.
this is the first video of yours that showed up in my subscription feed, since I bin watched your catalog last week, keep up the great work.
Good to see you today mijo. I know it’s Mother’s Day but it’s always nice when you make time for us
This is the most competent Western developers got in Silent Hill even though I still don't hate the game my biggest problem was the story and the controls. No major bugs I can't remember on PSP and the puzzles were competent enough but not the best.
Yeah the story is really weak. It makes sense though if they only had 1 week to rewrite it.
@@themeangene the monster design is also part of the story of Silent Hill too. It takes me out of the universe when Silent Hill two monsters were in Alyssa nightmares because their suppose to be James nightmare. Which is why I praise the new monster design for the butcher instead of pyrimid head even though they do the same thing. I would have made a monster made of a woman that's on fire design, it might be on the nose but at least it's original.
Climax studios also made shattered memories which has a great story so if Konami let them made another silent hill....
Bro, what about Shattered Memories
I agree regarding the story. The story really screws up much of the first game's lore. It just doesn't fit into Silent Hill 1's story.
I love watching these videos it helps me understand the games more and it helps the resurgences of silent hill games. I appreciate this channel i found you yesterday and I've been binge watching all your episodes man. thanks for making these videos man. keep the work going!!
There are a bunch of video game retrospective and "game explained" or "story explained" channels that I watch and I am SO glad I stumbled on yours man. This is one of if not the best channel for this sort of thing I've found! I can put your vids on in my headphones at work or I can sit down and watch them at home. You deserve waaay more subs and I'm going to recommend you to everybody I know who likes this kind of thing, awesome content, thank you so much!
Oh son I was worried you had stopped making videos. These silent hill retrospectives are amazing and I hope you do the whole series I’m proud of you son
omg I binged all your silent hill videos the other day and was hoping for the next one your videos are awesome
Nothing like a YFS video to make a Sunday that much better let's fucking go toobz
Really good job on all the videos so far MySon! Cant wait for the MGS series reviews!!!
Absolutely love your silent hill retrospectives
Also, I would argue Travis is one of the best SH characters. He had a fucked childhood, but the whole initial incident that got him involved with SH in the first place was him trying to do the morally right thing and save a child.
He was a more generic James Sunderland though, with forced amnesia. Not that the game is 'bad' but it's just the Great Value version of Silent Hill.
@@viraticwars I mean...yeah, but considering the games that came LATER I sort of give this game a pass. It's not an A, or even a B, but it's like....a C+.
@@viraticwarsJames sunderland was a socially awkward everyday guy. While Travis seems to be less of a coward and more manly however he repressed his horrible memories of his parents
@@WembeyNoodl Harry was my favorite ever man. Travis was a little more generic. His Brawling Trucker deminor would have been refreshing if he was a little more hard edge with a no-nonsense attitude.
@@viraticwars I mean the guy punches monsters with his bare hands
I've watched each of the silent hill videos and I can say I liked it very much. I hope you will cover every silent hill game. After finishing the Silent Hill series, I would suggest you cover the Fatal Frame series or Resident Evil. Thank you again. Keep going.
Today youtube keeps blessing me with silent hill retrospective vids. And this one was added only 2h ago. Gonna be great evening
awesome work, son, your videos are a blueprint for a great retrospective!
Good work son! This ended up actually being a bit more positive than I was expecting, so that was a nice surprise. There was some heart put into the game so I give it credit for that, but immediately after it does stuff like somewhat screwing with the established story or having wonky game mechanics. It's not a good SH game by any means, but it's decent enough for a horror title. I wish it had gotten another year in the oven or so because most of its issues could have EASILY been worked out with a bit of additional time.
Please keep the Silent Hill series going! I really enjoy them Son!
Thank you, I'm enjoying this series on my favorite games out there! You got a sub! I hope to see the modern titles too 🙏
Always wanted to play this one! I honestly like Travis as a character, i know fans don't really care for this entry thinking it didn't add anything to the overall narrative of the first game but i enjoy the story for what it is lol, great video loving the silent hill content!!
This was literally my 1st entrance to silent hill playing this game really made me dive deeper through the lore as how good the franchise really is
Though I'm only referring /Silent Hill/ Silent Hill Origins /Silent hill 2 and Silent hill 3. Though many fans or other each on there own opinions,but I really did love how the game starts from beginning walking through the road until u reach Silent hill With the beautiful music included giving u the suspense with who started the fire why is it so empty and Silent when waking up from the facility questions notes literally just there without any explanations.
I loved the gameplay and the environment it still isn't outdated for me
I love everything about the game.
Yeah the very beginning of Origins was great. They nailed that in my opinion. Very fitting and reminiscent of James walking that long eerie path at the beginning of SH2
Great content man! Keep it up Son. Continue making us Dads proud 💪🏽
Love the dedication to this series son, keep up the good work !
Really enjoying these Silent Hill retrospectives. You're getting better. Keep it up, son.
I've been hoping more people would make videos on the Silent Hill series. it's my favorite game series of all time along with Resident Evil, and there is no shortage of videos on those games at all.
Thank you for this series. It’s really been a great watch.
The first SH I played myself. I still like it. Personally I love the good ending, the music and ambience were really calming and with the sense of starting anew. Puzzles were ok. Not too complex but not crazy as SH3. Also once you unlock the fire axe, melee combat feels more like the old entries. 🐻
I’ve been wondering where this video was! Finished the entire run you’ve done so far, really good work, Son.
I am loving your videos, great work.
Fantastic work as always Son! While the story was kind of generic, playing in portably on psp was so good. especially with that sound track
I played on PS2... At least while I could see. That port got so damn dark I couldn't see.
Always a joy to discover a new channel that has "Retrospective" videos of my favourite game series 😄
Your videos are fantastic. Silent Hill is very important to me in my gaming journey. Thank you for doing them justice!!
I played through silent Hill 1 through 3 back in the day and I had always been curious to play all the other ones. I am absolutely loving these videos so far breaking them all down. You really are my favorite son and as a father I couldn't be prouder
Been waiting for this one 🔥
I discover your chanel about month ago and i love the work and dedication to all series. Great job Thank You.
I bought this day one (just like I had with the OG Silent Hill), and while it's not my favorite game in the series, it is my favorite to play. I have probably spent more time with this one than I have with the rest of the series combined.
Oh, door-punching simulator! (I unlocked extra costumes on the PS2 version and equipped one, and my roommate and I couldn't open doors without punching them, which made the third run both hilarious and extremely aggravating)
That's a hilarious glitch.
@@RedSpade37 You _say_ that, until you're the one living it lmao
@@Arcanist_Gaming Fair!
Thanks son. I just finished all your other Silent Hill videos last night.
It's a shame this for some reason bent the series into exclusively western development. It's not like Resident Evil doesn't have a few subpar non-Japanese developed entries that they were still able to recover from when they brought it back in-house.
ah yay another one! I love these videos! Great work man
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories next son? 👀
Yo just in time for me to relax, thank you :3
Hell yeah I was looking forward to seeing you do this one. There was something here, it would’ve been nice to explore the events leading up to the first game, just I think in a different direction than what they did. Also wasn’t that impressed with the monster design and watered down story. But ig that’s what happens when you have to fit it on the psp.
i love your stuff, keep going!
Happy SonDay. And cause it's also Mother's Day, I just want you to know how proud mom and I are of you. You're doing great. But try to take it easy sometimes. You're working so hard.
Your series has single handed made me feel significantly smarter on the subject of Silent Hill games. And I'm very excited to see more from you in the future. If you've got no other games to review once your Silent Hill series is done. I'd highly recommend checking out "Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom." It's an interesting action-puzzle game that I think needs more appreciation in the common knowledge. And would be a neat little game for you to add to your "Obscure Game Review" Repetoire.
*SPOOKTACULAR*
I was going to take a nap, but I'll finish that after viewing your latest achievement..
*Proud* of you Son.
💪👻💜
Keep up the good work son. You deserve success and so much more.
Epic! Another great vid. Waiting for you to cover one of my personal favs, although some don't like it, homecoming.
Been waiting for this son.
WAKE UP BABE! OUR SON DROPPED A NEW VIDEO!
"The company didn't like how looked"
Well yeah it's a horror game it's supposed to feel uncomfortable to look at.
When playing on the PSP, you can scroll through your weapons without having to enter the menu. I believe it’s done with the D-Pad.
One comment for the algorithm, thanks for the great content, Son!
Another great video! Well done son, you have earned a game of catch in the backyard
your videos are amazing im loving them thank you ^^
Hey son it’s me, your dad. I’m so proud of your effort and progress! Please remember to drink some water and get some rest ;) …I love you son
I'm glad to have randomly stumbled on your videos, son- I'll even watch the retrospectives whose games I've no interest in.
Cant wait for the next video! Are you doing homecoming, downpour, or shattered memories?!
Another great job son keep it up!
Man I think you are one of my favorite CZcamsrs now I have watched the first 4 episodes on the series and I may not agree with everything you say you really making me wanna play these games again and actually hope that they bringing this back. I'm definitely watching Yakuza next literally 2 of my favorite series of all time!
this was my first Silent Hill, so I have a huge soft spot for it
Hi, Son! In your SH2 video, you talked about the emotional delivery of Mary's final letter. You were so right! But even though this isn't nearly as good of a game, the delivery of the line Travis' father speaks in the Cedar Grove flashback when he realizes his wife is lost to her hateful delusions... it hits me hard. You can feel Richard's grief and despair. Great job by that VA.
My favorite non team Silent, Silent Hill game.
Damn son, your upload schedule is that of a madman. Get a capri sun and take a break once in a while! (But seriously, your consistency in both quality and regularity is to be commended.)
13:58 this startled me way more than it should have during my first playthrough
You deserve more subscribers son!
Genre-breaking hits like Lizzie McGuire 3 homecoming havoc
I was waiting for this one to drop
This was the last Silent Hill game I played, and I never did finish it, it's good to see how it all ended. I hated the weapon mechanics lol. Amazing video as always, thanks son lmao
I'm worried about Travis getting brain damage from all the passing out.
Have to solve a puzzle to get to the bathroom? That’s a nightmare all by itself
ooo anotha video, thanks sonnnn
Great video as always son! You should consider doing a piece on the PC game Sanitarium after you have covered the Silent Hill series, if you are wondering what is next. Would love to hear your thoughts on that. One of my favorites.
you dont need to go to your menu to change your weapons...you can also use the D pad to quick swap
One of the 1st Games I've bought for the PSP and I did love It a lot