India in Egypt: Global Spread of Indian Fraternities | Dr Tilak Ranjan Bera |
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- About The Talk:
The antiquity of Indian civilization is poorly understood at this point of time. We consider that Indian civilization could be one of the oldest civilizations of the world, if not the oldest. But we are unable to scientifically indicate the exact period of the origin of the Indian civilization.
At this juncture, analysis of the available genetic data of the Indian population and their connectivity with the rest of the world is extremely important. In fact, available genetic data suggests that post glacial period genetic identities like R1a, R1b, and O-haplogroups spread from Indian subcontinent to the rest of Eurasia in the last 10,000 to 12,000 years. Spread of R1b haplogroup in Y-chromosome from Bengal coast to the Mediterranean region can easily be arranged by analyzing the genetic distribution map. Dr Bera in this episode has made an attempt to explain the spread of the Indian fraternities in various directions with the help of scientific evidence including genetic data.
Dr Tilak Ranjan Bera (Books) : amzn.to/3PTSg3m
About The Speaker:
Dr Bera has explored Indian subcontinent to collect evidences to establish the antiquity of Indian civilization. He introduced quite a few 'never-thought-of ideas' to arrange Indian history. He was awarded Fulbright Fellowship and went to the Yale University.
In the meantime, Dr Bera has explored Jordan, Israel, Turkey and Greece to collect evidence available in the Mediterranean region which establishes an early connectivity of the region with Indian civilization.
Topics covered:
00:00 Power Statement
01:00 Antiquity of the Indian civilization
05:45 Is Egyptian civilization established by Indian-origin fraternities?
08:15 Significance of Genetics & Linguistics in prehistoric period
10:25 Is India truly a Melting Pot?
13:32 How Andaman aboriginal tribes reached the Andaman archipelago?
15:43 Introducing a multidisciplinary approach to study human migration
17:37 Identification of the site of origin using maternal & paternal genetic roots
23:44 How the site of origin identification is perceived presently
32:24 Is ‘Reverse migration’ popularly referred to as Indo-Aryan invasion?
36:58 Justification of Eastern India as the origin of migration path
41:55 Detailed understanding of the migration paths of R1b & R1a haplogroups
45:51 Reference to oldest archaeological evidences
47:39 The third major post-glacial genetic identity
48:54 What resulted in the collapse of major civilizations?
50:01 The Gangaridai Civilization
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Dr Bera, for all these years, archeologists, linguistics, anthros, genetics, and knoweledable people from many other sciences had these jig saw pieces your presentation solved the major questions presented by facts, data and modern sciences with logical conclusion. Bravo
Andaman is not directly connected to India. This population is real but came from the now submerged Sundaland
All roads 🛣️ lead to Bharat 🇮🇳🙏🕉️
Àll roads leads to black gene. Nagas asuras and adivasi only natives of இந்தியா.
In fact the eight first ruling gods of Egypt (this was only their residence, they were ruling the world) were Daityas which the Egyptians called Netheru. This is a Sanskrit word meaning "guardian", "watcher". They were identical with the gods of the Rigveda (Ptah = Agni = the constellation Aries, Amun Re = Surya = the constellation Taurus, Schu = Vayu = the constellation Aquila and so on). According to dates given by the ancient greek historian Diodor and the Egyptian priest Manetho their rule began about 32.500 BC which is shortly after the date which the Babylonian priest Berossos gives for the great flood which ended the Tretayuga and the Chakshusha Manvantara untimely, about 33.500 BC. So as in Indian texts they ruled at the first part of the Dvaparayuga. But they were defeated by the Devas which threw them into Patala which was the beginning of the second part of the Dvaparayuga. According to the greek historian Herodot this took place about 17.500 BC. The rule of the Devas ended according to Plato in another great flood about 9000 BC which date also seems to be confirmed by tablet 3b in Verbrugghe & Wickersham: Berossos and Manetho page 72: 33.500 (the date of the flood according to Berossos) minus 24.510 years, 3 months, 3 and one-half days (duration of rules after the flood) = roughly 9000 BC. This was the end of the Dvaparayuga.
Thank you for that insightful summary. Muy agradecido.
I just want to add: these first eight ruling gods of the Egyptians, called Netheru, were as a group called Vasus in the Rigveda and other Hindu texts.
Dr. Tilak Bera is opening a complete new way of thinking for the entire human race on the origin of the modern human civilizations across the globe. Many many more Bharatiya and International researchers should take his research and guidance forward to explore completely new gateways for the future world generations.
Thank you Sangam talks fro bringing him several times to elaborate his points to the enthusiastic audience. please arrange more and more of his discussions and with other experts on these topics. There are many people such as me, who are studying and very interested about these deep topics, will thus be highly benefited .
Still the 20 years are very low to have the complete understanding of Bharatiya's History. We are talking about the oldest civilization or I like to be personally called "The Civilization Zero" the mother of all civilizations.
But he made a good effort 👍.
Dr.Tilak Ranjan Sir,
Excellent program, really enjoyed watching this.
I have few questions sir,
How did the people travel from Hindustan Bengal to Ethiopia or Mediterranean regions. In your presentation you show an arrow mark from Bengal to Ethiopia and Egypt or Mediterranean region. Did the people travel by land route from Bengal to the coast of Gujarat and then travel by sea route by boats or ships? It would have been a long journey into the unknown through the dangerous sea waters. Or did they travel by boats and ships from Bengal through the coastline of odisha, Andhra, Tamil Nadu, Kerala and then slingshot to Africa? These explorers might have been great Mariners too to navigate so long distance without any satellite navigation and maps etc. imagine the challenges faced by the crew with the high seas, food stocks carried with potable water for drinking etc quite a real challenge.
Pre flood and post flood migration details are very interesting.
Why the government of India is not exploring the undersea ruins of the submerged city of dwarka of Lord Shri Krishna and funding new projects?
Indian is right now having excellent undersea exploring undersea submersible midget submarines or undersea drones for sustained undersea surveillance and mapping and collect photographic evidence.
Previous exploration was carried out by Prof Rao and the team found out that the artifacts are more than 12000+ years old. This means whether the Mahabharata time period was much older? If that is the case then Ramayana would be even older maybe 15000+ years?
What the ancients would have carried with them is their language, culture, food habits, art music dance, religion and way of worship, and most important of all DNA.
All Initial migrations were by land route through the Indus Valley civilization. Reverse migration sea route from the Red Sea region to the west coast of India started around 3500 years ago. Once Sea route was established, nobody traveled by land route and Indus Valley civilization route was abandoned. About 2000 years ago direct Sea route from the Red Sea region to the Bay of Bengal was established. The Periplus of the Erythrian Sea and Ptolemy s map establishes this connectivity.
Interesting and enchanting. 👌🙏
👉🏼CHINA के जैसा सिस्टम लागू करना चाहिए भारत मे....
क्यूंकि हिंदू संस्कृति से बड़ा ये संविधान और लोकतंत्र नही हो सकता और अच्छा खासा देश मे विकास कार्य हो रहे हैं, भारतीय अर्थव्यवस्था(Economy) तेजी से बढ रही है इस लोकतंत्र के चक्कर मे बना बनाया बर्बाद नही होने देना चाहिए 👈🏼....
very comprehensive!
Good discussion.
Comprehensive and very interesting as usual.
Very interesting presentation, correlates so well with glacial fluctuations. Wondering why we do not have migrations spreading from the Bengal belt into rest of india areas in DNA strains ? Entire indian subcontinent has the vedic history dating by well over 12500 years back easily.
Very fascinating. Baie dankie for a great talk.
Jay ho 🚩
According to the Puranas Manu Vaivasvata, the founder of the vedic society after the flood, came by ship (most probably from Kumari Kandam which is called Kaskara by the North American Hopi Indians) to the Himalayas in the great flood which Berossos dates at about 33.500 BC. Before the flood he was "king of the Dravidians". In the Sumerian King List he was the last of the 10 kings before the flood (compare the ten generations before the flood in the Bible and the Aitareya Brahmana) by the name of Xiusuthra which is the name of the surviver of the flood in the Gilgamesh epic.
Thank you, Dr. Tilak Ji. The information you provided was very interesting, and I learned a lot today. I hope that this knowledge will be accepted or at least understood by the Egyptians
Thank you i had, read about this,,,,, earlier and awaarebut bharat and french jad connection i did not. Know.
The awakenings🙏🧘
Excellent analysis...Good tosee tgar a Doctor, an Ophthalmologist gas done such a detailed study...
Swami vivekananda in his writings mentions Egyptians originating from Dravidian roots...
By tge way he also defines India as A veritable ethnilogical museum...
Please also check Dating of Mahabharata and Ramayana by Nilesh Oak
Why press conference is not done about this?
Its important for the world to know!!!!
GOI needs to do press release of this.
Because nothing of these is proved
@@stalinsampras The curse of India is that the religious fanatics believe all these things as true and they tie everything to the religion and God and take false pride.
The word Palestine has nothing to do with Pali the language. Palestine is the modern version of the name for that region, which the romans called Syria Palestina from the 1st century AD onwards.
Before that, it was known as the ancient jewish kingdoms of Judea and Israel, and before that it was the land of various Canaanite kingdoms which were vassal states of Kemet (Egypt) and Sumeria.
The ROmans conquered the jewish kingdoms, expelled most of the jews, and renamed it Syria Palestina, as a final insult to the jews, because palestina was derived from the philistines who were the enemies of the jews at that time.
Thanks 👍
True
Jai Bharat Mata 🙏🙏🚩
I am happy to and sad listening to this lecture session.
And they changed everything
It was Grand father of Rama Aegypat on his name Egypt was named.!!.
There are writings in anatolia
facts
@ashishpatel350 🤣😂🤣
Why would they move from Ethiopia to India and then Egypt? They could have followed the Nlie and ended up in Egypt -easier route
No GPS age
@@viralrival no need for GPS - just follow the flow of the Nile - easier than crossing oceans
Is writing dyonisio went to india
8:54 the genetics are more volatile in this matter than history and archaeology. And why doesn't he take the factor of astrology.....it's a complex subject and can be used as one of the most concentrated evidence.
Also black originals are from south america
Is written even in india from greece they went to india and told them how to live
Please focus on Undivided Bengal ❤❤❤ বাঙালী হিন্দু হয়ে গর্বিত ❤❤❤
06:40 please don't connect every name to us.
The inferiority complex of indians is absurd and embarassing.
so only india has all the three haplogroups
so you are claiming prakrit is older than sanskrit??
I thought we had completely rejected the Aryan invasion / migration theory ? Where is the validation by other historians of his support for advocating Aryan mugratuin to India
❤❤❤ Sanatan Planet ❤❤❤
Brother there are plenty of dark skinned people in North India and North- Eastern India.
Sanscript is indoeuropean
There was no script for indo europeans
@@charansai2476 there are in Ugarit
Hitites
Assyrians
There was not for Hinduism
You know they were light people
Those are celts they were there
Lord Rama ruled the whole world. His statue was found under Shiradi Ghat in North Pencilvania.
@RoshanAntonyTauro🤣😂🤣😂
Yes many came from india not r1 a o b
R1a is from the steppes
And also you dont talk about south america
We know there was a high civilization over there
Much older in europe
Coming and going
Is not india r1b that is celt
Mesopotamia
I have not ever and still dont believe that life began in Africa And not because the black skin because I believe that life began in many places were god but a few people here and there and then they started travelling all over the world because God didn't make borders only men started doing that anyway we are the human race and should respect each other BECAUSE WE WILL NEVER REALLY KNOW THE TRUTH WERE AND WEN NO MATTER WHAT 🙏 RESPECT WHAT EVER U BELIEVE.
Sabka baap bharat hai bharatvarsh
You didnt write
Sanscript that is indoeuropean
See today were there are
They were all pasding
O is china
We are not Bharat vasi our ancestors highly intelligent lived with harmony and shared spirituality... But it all lost now
Needs some Infographics ;
Just verbiage alone doesn’t make the point and text on screen isn’t helpful
Overall the channel needs an experienced Editor to raise the level of Sangam talks.
Palistan Palestine seriously? That one Sounded like WhatsApp University.
Kailash is the centre of all these movements as if apes are humanised in kailash and exported to world
Jab Desh pe Khatra hai Tab Loktantra Sahi nahi rahta isliye Bharat ki Sena(Army) ka Samarthan Lekar "Narendra Modi ji" 30 Saal Ke Liye "One Party Sashan" Laga de Taaki Bharat Surakshit ho jaye In 30 Saalo me Sthir Sashan Vyavashtha ke karan Bharat Shaktishali, Viksit, Sampann aur Samriddh ho jayega Tabtak Islam, Christianity, Congress, Communists jaise Bharat Virodhi Tatv(Elements) Samapt ho jayenge aur Bharat 50+ Trillion Ki Economy Pakka hoga kyuki Ye Bharat hai Isko 30 saal hi kafi hain 50 Trillion banane ke liye.
not possible and also not a good idea
@@dhyanpatel0011 👉🏼CHINA के जैसा सिस्टम लागू करना चाहिए भारत मे....
क्यूंकि हिंदू संस्कृति से बड़ा ये संविधान और लोकतंत्र नही हो सकता और अच्छा खासा देश मे विकास कार्य हो रहे हैं, भारतीय अर्थव्यवस्था(Economy) तेजी से बढ रही है इस लोकतंत्र के चक्कर मे बना बनाया बर्बाद नही होने देना चाहिए 👈🏼...
Dalits will create riots.
The light people in india is hun
Indian Rishis built the pyramids
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 rishis are europeans not Egyptians
Humans were already in Australia 65,000 years ago and in India prior to that. Humans had to come back to India after the volcanic eruption.
When he was talking about AIT or AMT my heart skipped a beat for a second. I thought he was admitting the AIT. 😅
Bharatiya History is not good for my heart...😅
There is lot of bias and assumptiobs in Dr.Tilak Ranjan Bera's analysis an d conclusions as he predominantly bent upon modern day bengal orissa region as source of all migrations and discounting leaps and bounds progress naval maturity of south india including modern day tamil nade,undivided andra,karnataka,keral and maharastra. below narmada river's genetic mixing and migration n influence of indo-eureopean mix,his understanding n know-how is incomplete
@gkvikram It is not the fault of Dr. Tilak; it is the channel. Sangam Talks wants videos of this kind (bias and assumptions) that can uphold their propaganda.
The mother is the same
And more you can only see the woman
In the men you can see the mother
The cast thing is not greek
They are all from mesopotamia
You dont have many r1a or b
Inferiority complex. Looking for indian connection everywhere.
Satye meh Vijayte. Truth alone wins.
Western mentality only want to show they are the source of civilization even if they have to fix the books.
@@ArunMonk And you think what you believe is truth. And you define what is a victory and so only you know if you won or lost.🤣😂🤣
@@Sapien-vt5ve did I say that? You seem to draw fallacious conclusions, which reflects an undeveloped mind.
The oldest is mesopotamia
Abhi kya buddh k evidence mile egypt me to khisyaye baman panti apna mythological chivilijason ko bhi fit karne ka koshish karenge 😂
Tum jese logo ko to Islam ko manane Wale h sudhar sakte h 😂😂😂😂
Brahman vaad pakandi vaad
Greek or mythology or mesopotamia is the oppositive of hinduism
A hun invention
Because hinduism is product of aryan mythology+ indigenous nagas mythology+ tadka of Buddhists knowledge.
Also aryans used to be in conflict with Mesopotamians and sumerians earlier
@@charansai2476 not really
Kya bakvas hai
ब्राह्मण or हिंदू संस्कृति ki ek hi pपहचान है .. जातीयवाद or total control of purohit, baniya on religion and economy of this country..
Patriarchy, women suppression, uneducation, rampant socio cultural divide in the society are the manifestations of hindu संकृति
.. samvidhan is above all .. and it will prevail
Aryans were fish eating Brahmins related to sinshasta culture of Central Asia they settled in saraswati river and migrated to different areas some are even now called saraswats such as in goa this guy confuses the whole topic
सर जी अगर आप ये जानकारी हिंदी में कहते तो और बेहतर होता।🙏
@Tarikhahmad786 Please teach English to your brothers and sisters.