Broken Down & Stranded in Put-In Bay - But FINALLY FIXED MY CHT ISSUES!
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- We flew my Cozy to Put-In Bay for a day of sun and relaxation. We had a good time, ate some great food, and saw the sights. However, when it was time to fly home...I discovered a serious problem with the engine on my airplane. With no other way of getting home, we were stranded...so I got to work to try to figure out the problem.
Not only did I figure out the problem, but I also inadvertently fixed the CHT overheating issues that I have been fighting for the last five months!
0:00 Intro
0:22 The Plan
2:30 Takeoff
5:16 Cedar Point
7:32 Approach into Put-In Bay
8:14 Landing
10:55 Put-In Bay
12:45 Starting Problem
13:24 Run-Up Problem
14:29 The Problem
14:58 Taxi Test
15:31 Run-Up Test
15:48 Short Runway Takeoff
17:07 CHT Revelation
17:40 What the Problem Was
19:45 Deserted Pattern
20:58 Unseen Traffic & Go-Around
23:21 Landing
25:08 Data Showing Problem
No content in this video should be taken as flight instruction or advice. Refer to your aircraft POH and consult your CFI. This video has been edited for time and content, and context may be lost or distorted. This video is for entertainment purposes only.
#Canard #Cozy #PutInBay - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Congratulations on figuring out the CHT and all ur hard word on baffles really paid off. Now you can add the additional understanding of the ignition into ur troubleshooting for the future. As a pilot and A&P I love watching these kinds of real world aircraft owners stories. Keep it up!
All and all I think you had a pretty good day.
Thank you for the awesome video again. Glued to the screen during the entire trip. I always like, I will start sharing the videos. Great content, enjoy all the effort. I fly vintage American Aerolights Eagle ultralights with a canard. Thanks again.
Excellent that you found your issue 😊
It's one of those deals where you feel like you could kick yourself because you never thought to think about what other systems in the aircraft would cause the same type of symptoms. I never thought it would have been an ignition problem
FYI, In addition to South Bass Island (Put-in-Bay), Kelly's Island DOES have a runway, and so do Middle Bass Island, and North Bass Island, . Boat and ferry service to the islands stops when the lake starts to freeze over in the winter months. Those runways are the only way off the islands in the winter. The air taxi service based at Port Clinton (KPCW) takes kids to school! Back in the '40s thru the '70s, Island Airlines flew Ford Trimotors to the islands!!!
It wasn't showing up on my map because I have it configured not to show any airport with less than a 2500 foot runway. 2800 is my absolute lower limit, I'll use 2500 in an emergency, but the 2200 foot runway at Kelly's island is right out - so I didn't see it on my map.
@@CanardBoulevard I get that. A canard aircraft just isn't a short-field or rough surface aircraft like the similar-powered Beechcraft, Cessna or Piper with their thick high-lift airfoils... BUT you get to fly MUCH faster and farther!
My next question is will you try your new prop again, now that you have the CHT problem addressed?
Very nice. I love the editing. Well done on the go around. Well done on the ignition. I couldn't quite make out the engine data, but with the improved ignition, I would expect to see higher EGTs along with the lower CHTs. Was that the case?
Mike Busch' s book "On Engines" has great information on engine data interpretation and differential diagnosis. Well worth the read for anyone into that sort of thing .
Thanks for the video!
Kudos for your suggestion in replies to Scott's 4/27 video to look closely at ignition timing as a primary cause of higher CHTs.
Curious why the high-temp problem persisted when the mag and electronic ignitions were selected independently during testing.
I was wondering that too. I'm guessing that the electronic ignition was failing in a way that would not show up initially in a ground run up, but presented as elevated CHTs in air initially and then progressed to complete failure on the ground run up . Some electronic ignitions do adjust timing at altitude, so it could have been an issue with that function not working correctly, possibly? I'm not sure, but an interesting chain of events on the CHT troubleshooting for sure.
the good: the first trip to put-in bay! flying with your wife! cooling issues fixed! goat cheese bacon dates! the tour! wild discovery of CHT fix!
the bad: short/hard landing. flies. ignition death. traffic.
commentary: haven't recognized the vocal fry on the west coast. interesting. wondering how regional it is?
thanks for posting this. glad you figured out the CHT, the graphs make it easy to see.
Pleased for you. Glad the CHT problem is fixed.
3:33 DUDE !!!! THAT RUNWAY VIEW (the whole airport) IS SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN CANARD GUTTER ALLEY (beta .002b blvd.... lol hahahah snikker) sigh, for a KITFOX or ZENITH or TEMP FIX CUZ YOU HAVE A PLANE AND it is all that you can find and you gotta put your plane somplace!!!
SOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU !!
such an awesome upgrade!!!
apprecieate you takin us along with ya !!!
I am a BEECH2000 starship nerd fanboy anyhow, sooo those and VELOCITIES and didn't kno at the time but COZY's and LONG EZ's but the long EZ is an EX thought for me cuz like ''too narrow'' lol reminds me of an MRI TUBE and THAT reminds me of a ''submarine torp tube....'' which is a memory I do not know how I ''got'' but it is indeed an intense one! :) LOL
LOVE JOY COMPASSION
Good video, thanks. Glad you got the CHT's under control.
Despite the problem, you learned a lot and it was a good day.
Nice! We just flew to put in bay for the day today. I think next time I’ll go to Kelley’s instead
I enjoy put in bay!
Congratulations on figuring that out.
I’m with you. When people let their voice trail off to a growl, it irritates me to no end. It could be one of the most uncool things someone can do to be cool.
I am new, nice flight glad you flew home with no problems. At the end of the video what is the plane that was parked out side? May be it is something Jimmy is Interested in, Jimmy from Jimmy’s World.😂😂
That's an older Piper Comanche. I doubt Jimmy would be interested in it - it actually flies pretty regularly.
Ah, heat from bad timing.. I had had years ago but still didn't pick up on it.
Hopefully you haven't quite fixed all your problems, I quite enjoy the debugging tech talk.
AUG 22&21 BASH ON THE BAY
JELLY ROLL !!! OH MY .... ;) dannnnggggg sooo much COMMON LOTTO !!! :) ir oiwer or powerball!!! :) either iether lol
Hey, don't complain! Yours started better than mine. (Master on, 9 vdc from the battery. Hit the starter, 6 vdc. Battery is 7 years old, so ....)
That will do it! The EarthX battery in mine is amazing!
that was a waco ymf5 not a stearman lol, great video!!!!
is the CRYSTAL CAVE still there??? not quartz like I used to think, its like selinite or something like that lol but calcite? I don't remember but it is a COOL DESTINATEION!!!!
and ComadorePerry's cavern ??? really cool place to cool off in middle of summer on vacation! when you are ''not into bars'' or can't get into them yet lol hahhahahahahhahaah
I am pretty sure I have mentioned before on thise (your) channel,
**I** HAVE BEEN LUCKY ENUF TO GET TO FLY OUT THERE FROM PORT CLINTON ON THE FORD TRI MOTOR 2 summers in a row, in probabally like the 70s ..... family is from up there around the PORT CLINTON GREYTOWN (wutever) ROCKY RIDGE area.... all the way over to OAK HARBOR..... shudder.... COOOOLD up there.....
Great video. Thank-you. 👏 You mentioned a followup to what happened to fix the timing of your EI? From what l can gather you cleaned and reseated all the contacts and this fixed the issue? I have a similar problem with my LE ignition with high CHT’s that are slowly getting worse with nothing else changing. I’ll certainly try what you have done. I am curious if you found out more. 😊
I did...and that video is coming soon.
5:26 WOW... I CAN ALMOST SEE FULTON STREET off at like 10:30 11slightly off to the left over the carnard, (it's to the left of the gypsim quarry...is how I always thunk of location/locating it) ... OTHER SIDE of SANDUSKY BAY ....FULTON STREET goes right into Port CLinton.... FAMILY use to be involved with the BAY BREEZE CABINS there at sunduskybay at end of FULTON STREET ..... the cabins are long gone but the MARINA is still there, I have photos of them going back into the 60s not many pix but... if anyone else knows the cabins LET ME KNO if you wanna me to send a pic to share... if if YOU kno of the place I am referring to...
I think it's FULTON STREET... sigh... been a while and look at the MAP GOOGLE MAP WALKING IT makes me sad lol but brings back MEMORIES OF DOCKING TNE BOAT AT THE MARINA FOR THE SUMMER VACATION!!!
Glad to see your CHT issue is resolved and that your extra ducting is working. Curious if you are comfortable with the electronic ignition? It started working but do you why? Any concerns it will stop working unexpectedly again? I was holding my breath on your takeoff from the island, that would have been a really bad time for the power loss to show up again. Love your videos, watch them as soon as they come out.
Definitely not comfortable - I want to know the exact cause of the problem before I fly again. I've since found the actual cause - working on that video now.
@@CanardBoulevard Excellent, I have learned a lot about Canard's and look forward to the resolution of your CHT story. These videos are extremely valuable for aspiring aircraft owners and operators. Keep up the good work.
Can't help but wonder if one of the connections was working loose? Or one of the wires in the connector?
When I have a loose connection on my 1500 Goldwing, I try a plastic zip tie to secure.
Just an idea. But keep all of us in the loop on what you find! I took jump to your latest videos as soon as I see that subscription notification!!!!!
P.s. wife says Sweetwater sales are soaring!!
in my troubleshooting experience with systems 70% of the time it is something minor or not a real failure. it pays to check connections and measure components. nice catch
This one was actually a component failure...video to come
@@CanardBoulevard I am definitely enjoying your videos
Thank you for calling out the vocal fry that is a borderline epidemic these days!!!!
- Cool. Literally 😀
you didn't warn wifeie about ''this gunna be a fast and hard landing??'' short runway and we need to get stopped quick...
or just didn't wanna say anything cuz better not to spark the fires of worry???
either way, both good, both rite lol
All indications were a subpar connection that worsened with the extra firm landing. (One of the connectors was not fully completed).
It wasn't a connection...but close. :)
one of these days could you PLEASE fly the coast (north coast) of SANDUSKY actually commin and going if it don't violate the PC AIRPORT :) or wutever ;) sigh... I just wqanna see from the air all the HOUSE SEEDS they planted... sigh... there used to be FIELDS tween the ROW OF CABANS and houses along the coast of sandusky bay, and well port clinton... not they are all no longer FIELDS and all filled with HOUSES!!! SIGH...
the FAM that was involved with BAY BREEZE CABINS from like the 40s thru 90s or something like that, couldnt even get ''permission'' from the houseing zoneing wutever to put up RV PADS and POWER HOOKUPs from what I heard, that would be soooo cool remembering telling stories at a little 5 or 10 spot RV CAMP... sigh... yuppy encrochment... ;)
Its possible that the mag wasn't working at all at full throttle cylinder pressures. High EGT and CHT temps are one mag symptoms. I think you have an 0 360. If so I'm concerned about the 2200 rpm being low for full throttle at your elevation.
Thanks for this very instructional video - much appreciated! I would have never guessed that these overheating problems do come from engine timing.
One question though: Is it necessary that you recite the whole sentence of 'xyz this is experimental cozy 797DL.. yada yada yada' at each and every transmission?
It's been a lot of years since I flew in the US but wouldn't 'cosy 7DL' be more than sufficient as a call sign perhaps with the exception of the very first contact?
The idea being to save some bandwidth... ret. ATP ...
If you are broadcasting into the blind (i.e. CTAF or UNICOM) then that is the correct verbiage according to the FAA. If you're talking to ATC, then once they have responded with a shortened call sign, you can use that shortened call sign from that point forward in communications with that controller.
@@CanardBoulevard Thanks for clarifying that. It's way too long that I flew in the US. Things change...
A place where most people just sit around and eat and drink...I'm in.
Great video! I’m really starting to wonder if the electronic magnetos are worth the extra complexity. Any thoughts on that Scott?
Yes! This one has worked trouble-free for 20 years until now. The adjustable timing makes more power and uses less fuel, so definitely worth it.
Max cruise speed? And Max speed?
Kelly’s Island has a paved runway. 2000 X50
Yes...but not one I can get out of. I could land there...probably...but I'd be stuck there!
I LOOKS SOOOOO SMALL!!!!!! LOL 9:22
Honestly a good Turboprop Engine PBS TP100 has less points of failure than a gas-piston engine...240 HP could be enough?
Very rich start
You still likely have a burble. Or, it would have cooled anyhow.
well there ya go, to did AQP EMERGENCY GO AROUND ... MISSED APPROACH watnot... !! :)
happened kinda fast but does the wife have vizability any direction from her ''ezchair'' back there while she in the air in that pushair'er lol hehehehehe ?? I kno it happened kinda fast but proceedures, more eyes even if she can only look to the sides oreven just ONE SIDE that is one direction you have to be less concerned lookin yourself... was where I wasa goin..
commenting for the allowgrowthrithemz ;) GO GO GADGET EHLLOWERLD SHOW2ALL !! :)
LOVE JOY COMPASSION
helo still shoulda been able to call... or answer the call.... didn't get 2 way communication with him did you ??? that issn't cool...
Nope. He was not answering me, and nobody else in the pattern.
yup it would be ''declair emergency'' and find a boat that is ''STRAIGHT AHEAD'' and aim that direction...... ;)
shudder... AQP ,,,,knowing what you SHOULD DO not ''manufistin something you don't want'' ;) ENJOY!!
That town needs a bat population.
Thank you now I cannot unhear the annoying vocal fry.
Lol at 6:00 min in that dude sounded like he may enjoy the presents of other men in his bed. To put it nicely. 😂