How Croatia Joined the Axis
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- The Independent State of Croatia (NDH) was Croatia during the Second World War. What happened in Croatia during WW2? And how did Croatia join the Axis? The Independent State of Croatia (NDH) was established when the German invasion of Yugoslavia was still going on. Led by the Ustaša organization under the leadership of Ante Pavelić. The Ustashas committed many crimes against Serbian and Jewish people.
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- The Racial Idea in the Independent State of Croatia. Origins and Theory (Nevenko Bartulin).
- Picturing Genocide in the Independent State of Croatia (Jovan Byford).
- The Balkans 1804-2012. Nationalism, War and the Great Powers (Misha Glenny).
- Wehrmacht Perceptions of Mass Violence in Croatia, 1941-1942, The Historical Journal, Vol. 44, No. 4 (Dec., 2001), 1015-1038 (Jonathan E. Gumz) 1025.
- Hitler's New Disorder. The Second World War in Yugoslavia (Stevan K. Pavlowitch).
- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) - Croatia (Rory Yeomans).
- War and Revolution in Yugoslavia, 1941-1945. Occupation and Collaboration (Jozo Tomasevich).
- allthatsinteresting.com/ustase (09-09-2022).
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Why the Germans were OUTRAGED by the violence of the Croatians in WW2:
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Serbia is Balkan´s Moscow ulus (backward, primitive, barbaric ). As a Litwin I do understand well, why Croatians HATE Serbian´s empire so much.
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*Ustaše, not Croatians
@@thejosh3855 I understand but they claimed the country Croatia.
It is important to notice that when king Alexander imposed his dictatorship on the orthodox Christmas eve in 1929, thus changing the name of the state from "The kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes" to "The kingdom of Yugoslavia", not only were the Croats revolted, as stated in the video, but so was every ethnic group (even the Serbs) ! This is because the king wanted do create an integral Yugoslav ethnicity by suppressing any other ethnicity, be it Serb, Croat or Slovene. That's why no one was happy with that causing political instability culminating in the quick surrender to the Axis powers in 1941.
Thank you, Mr. Teacher. Passions are boiling and history repeats itself again and again. Best wishes.
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Every Saturday I look forward to your educational videos Stef. Having lived in N Ireland of all my life, I know how difficult it is for people of different religions to live together peacefully
Just be irreligious 😂 Religious fanatism caused millions of wars in history
even irreligious types are intolerant between each other, cause newest religion nowadays are political idoeologies@@camilla_k97
Another great history lesson. Love the channel. Keep them coming.
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Thank you so much. Have a good weekend!
Interesting how the "Independent State of Croatia" included lands that were non-Croat but excluded lands that were Croat majority like Dalmatia, Medjugorje, non-coastal Istra, etc. By this and eliminating ethnic Croats opposed to the regime, one could argue that Ante Pavelic was a traitor to his own people.
Think he was both an opportunist and fanatic.
Ante Pavelic was present in serb parliament when Stjepan Radic was killed in 1928. In 1929 Ante Pavelic was sentenced to death in absentio by King Alexander, had to flee the country, and found refuge with Italians. So Serbs killed a moderate croatian politician, and pushed a more radical politician in the hands of Italian fascists, who were interested in every way possible to destabilize slav countries, so they could expand their influence there. In hindsight, neither of those were smart moves.
Thank you very much ❤️
Thanks for watching.
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What I like most about this channel is that smaller and less talked about players are covered. Keep up the good work. Im sure you’ll make another video about Croatias part in the war these crimes should be more well know so that they don’t happen again
Yes, more videos will we coming. Thanks for your response.
Thanks. Raised the bar again.. BZ
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The king was actually assassinated by a Bulgarian nationalist (from north Macedonia) in collaboration with Ustaše
Good for him
True.Serbs oppressed almost all their neighbours.They joined forces to kill the kind
Yugoslav history in ww2 is very interesting. Especially Croatia, should be more known. Love thid Vid!
More will be coming.
Nice! Where are you this summer?
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Keep up the great work. I truly love your videos.
Thanks.
Keep up the great work! I love your videos.
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Bring another Tito on sure we can find one if anyone cares to
@@HistoryHustle you are lying Putin/chetcnik/russian dog, I have sent your profile to Azov battalion
I caught your other channel in Dutch the other night. Since I work graveyard, and am always tired. I was convinced my phone broke.
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The history i was never learning in highschool
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One thing to be sure: the Croats had been loyal to two German-speaking entities: Austria and Germany. The Croats were even praised by the Austrian Kaisers long before Mr Adolf came to power. Croats had fought in WW2 and were the only people to die for the craziness of Nazi cause willingly.
Not true.We were allied with Austria-Hungary but in WW2 we had a sort of a civil war.Tito and the whole partisan leadership were Croatian
Interesting post Stefan. 🙏🇦🇺
Thanks for watching.
I would like to add that first killings didn't occur in May of 1941. There were some minor incidents during early arrests of Serbs, Communists and Jews before that with some deaths. However, first real massacre was at Gudovac near Bjelovar on 28th of April, not even three weeks after Slavko Kvaternik declared NDH. After some local Ustasha militiamen were shot at by remnants of the Yugoslav Army, Martin Čikoš and armed Ustasha that were previously in Peasant Guard (some kind of territorial units in former Yugoslavia) arrested and executed 196 Serbs. Eugen Kvaternik never gave order to hide this and corpses were left in the field which caused German authorities to arrest local Ustasha. Of course, Ustashe told Germans that massacre was reprisal for some Serb massacre of Croats (which never occurred) and Germans let Ustasha free. Father of Eugene Kvaternik, the one person who proclaimed NDH and was for a time commander of regular NDH army was fierce opponent of Ustasha massacres, as was German military attaché Glaise Horstenou. Both left first hand sources on those atrocities which doesn't sit well with modern Croatian right wing narrative that those atrocities never happened and were invented by Communists.
Thanks for sharing. I refer to my sources.
Brankec reci ti nama koja su se ubojstva događala 29.te i nakon te godine nad Hrvatskim stanovnistvom? Jesu Ustaše tad djelovale po Jugoslaviji? Tko je ubijao Hrv civilno stanovnistvo zbog izrazavanja svoje narodnosti i nacionalnosti? Sto je tocno radio kralj svih naroda u periodu od 20.ih godina do 40.ih? Prema tome ne jesti govanca , samo ime ustaškog pokreta ti govori sve = ustanak. Protiv gamadi koja je uvijek htjela prekrajat povijest i izvrćat povijesne činjenice. U tome ste No.1 na svijetu. Nitko se ne slaze sa zlocinima nad neduznim stanovnistvom i ti ljudi koji su stradali zasluzuju postovanje i sjecanje. Problem je samo sto vi potencirate da je samo jedna strana kriva u toj situaciji i da ste vi jedini zrtve svakog rata , a pogotovo onih koje vi zapocnete... Saberite se malo
hope you cover the 20th July plot maybe there are things historians skip over or forgoten
Covered
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One day you should do a video collaboration with Lost Battlefields w Tino Struckmann.
Dunno him.
Instructor; cant say enough..in regard to your contribution..to Military History"!!
Glad you appreciate it.
The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was going to become a federal state, but alas WW2 happened before that could be fully completed. Croatia became autonomous within Yugoslavia in August 1939.
Yes, the Sporazum.
Asymmetrical national province in the KoY.
Federal internal organisation in the monarchy was not in sight.
It was implemented by the Tito upon his taking power in 1945,
by the Constitution of FNRY of 31st Jan 1946.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_of_Croatia
Croatians in Austro-Hungary were in the 2 Provinces trying to unite with no success: Croatia and Dalmatia.
Croatia was in the Hungarian half of A-H, Dalmatia was in the Austrian half of A-H, each having it's own Parliament.
Croat politicians of Croatian Parliament over the referring Budapest Parliament urged in the capital Wiena at the Emperor K&K to be unified with the Dalmatia.
That was discussed, some appreciated, but nothing was implemented.
Croats of Dalmatia Parliament wanted to join Serbia in joint Kingdom,to prevent implementing of the London Agreement of 1915, by which Italy entered the Great War.
Croats of the Croatian Parliament were against that state, but accepted only influenced by the Dalmatian politicians.
All Croats regarded the K SCS as temporary state to be exited from.
In 1928 they formed unofficial request for leaving the state, on unpolite way, on which 3 Croat CPP politicians were assassinated.
Afterwards they struggled by 3 Parties to gain independence: 1 CPP Croat Peasant Party, 2 CRP Croatian Rights Party, later becoming the UCRO Ustashe, 3 CPY Communist Party of Yugoslavia, Communist Party of Croatia subdivisional since 1937 after Tito becoming in charge.
You forget something: Istria, Dalmatia and ex Republica Ragusa ( today Dubrovnik ) were part of Austrian Empire,and also ex Venice Albania or today Boka Kotorska; Croatia and Slavonia were part of Hungarian Kingdom with Fiume ( today Rijeka or Rika ) pocket, specially controled from Budapest or Hungary. In that time, Austro-Hungaria was double state connected with Habsburg house or in personal union. Mostly, historians think that was just one state, but in reality were two. So, between 1867 to 1918, Croats lived in two states. And, if you count that Bosnia was a part of Turkish Empire, between 1463 to 1908, Croats lived in 3 states or Empires.
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Expertise of Austro-Hungarian administration is needed.
2 parts with 1 protectorate Empire had one dynasty, joint military, foreign affairs and diplomacy, and official languages: German and Hungarian.
So it was the Empire with 2 subdivisional states and 1 province protectorate ruled from the administration center.
A-H and Ottoman were 2 Empires.
In 1914 before Franc was killed he was about create trialism in au which meant Croatia would have same rights and parliament separate from Austria and Hungary
@@jakovsandrovcan3471 Znam! To smo učili na Pravnom faksu, na prvoj godini. Austro-Ugarska bi pod Carem/Kraljem Franzom Ferdinandom Habsburg-Lothringenom postala Austro-Ugarska-Slavija, ali povezana kao tri države dinastijom Habsburg i još nekim zajedničkim poslovima, poput vojske, policije, trgovine, vanjskim poslovima, ect. Ali, Carska Rusija je bila protiv toga pa je nahuškala malu Srbiju da podrži suludi atentat u Sarajevu, koji je bio okidač za Veliki rat ( 1914-1918 ). Da rat nikada nije izbio, a Franz Ferdinand preživio taj ludi čin, možda bi zajednička država još i danas postojala, kao konfederacija. I svima bi nam u njoj bilo bolje, i Srbima i Hrvatima, i Česima, i Poljacima. Austrijanac je dobro vodio najveću državu Europe ( gdje je 60% stanovništva bilo slavensko), poslije Rusije, a i ratova na Balkanu bilo bi manje. Pozdrav!
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That was only a wishful thinking of some Croat politicians.
Empire was the dual state and neither of the 2 was willing to give power to some minor satelite non mainstream Slavic nation.
Just to add that Fiume Rijeka was Croat minority Hungarian port, Istria was Austrian.
Many Italian historians say that there are over 700,000 skeletons in the NDH area
I see.
@@wsffff As an example..
Alberto Becherelli
Croatia is the first country to create a concentration camp for babies (In Sisak)
She is known for her brutal ways of killing "Because a bullet is expensive for a Serb"
When Berlin fell, the Ustashas killed as much as they could, even the pope at the time said that Ante Pavelic was a great man and a Catholic as well as he deserved to live.
To this day, the Vatican has not spoken out on the about the genocide against Serbs.
I think it was an attempt to exterminate The Serbs.
As an Orthodox nation richest in the original customs of Christianity, the Serbs are the target of extermination.
It is in the Vatican's interest that Orthodox states always lose population, so today we have a war between Russia and Ukraine.
The Vatican is more of a tool by which globalists control members of Catholicism, we can see that the pope has nothing against LGBTQ organizations and gay marriage.
The biggest misconception is that the Nazis and the Soviets were formidable enemies, but that's not true, the two groups clashed simply because of their tendencies to become the No. 1 power in the world.
To this day, Croatia has not given a penny as war reparations to Serbia.
The Chetniks were declared terrorists even though they were the only ones who guarded the Serbs during WWII, the Chetniks were the only ones who saved over 100 American pilots on their own.
World War II was a clash of monsters in which small countries tried to save as many of their populationas possible.
yeah well victors write the history don't they
And Serbian expert Kočović and Croat Žerjavić gave us exact numbers.
My opinion. If all those territories remained in Austria-Hungary, if Austria-Hungary survived, such brutality would never happen... Ustashes' attacks, communism, wars, Srebrenica, etc.😢🤬
A-H was doomed to go down though.
True! The guilty is on winners of ww1 who dissolved Austro-Hungaria.
@@HistoryHustleYugoslavia was doomed to go down.. there is only one problem😂 Serbs didn't want Yugoslavia , they wanted Great Serbia that's reality😊
@@ivansaric9159BS! And you know that!
@@MikeBalkansky😂 we know that idea of Great Serbia lives still. It's easy to check in RS , in Montenegro , Kosovo and some ret.rds still talk about Knin as their "serbian" city. Tell me I am wrong. And this guy STEFAN , should talk more about that , because those are the same people who are acusing Croatian people for ethnic cleansing , but they did it first in favor of making Great Serbia🤡
How bad do you have to be to horrify The Gestapo?
Pretty bad.
Croatia may have been the most brutal of the Nai allies during the war. As you pointed out, they even shocked the Germans. Anyway, you tricked me with that early ding dong at 00:44. Take care.
Thanks for your response.
"They shocked Germans" 😂😂 sure they did, are you saying happenings in the Balkans were on the worse level than Auschwitz?
@@franvutmej5974 I think it's more that many of the Germans were in a state of denial as to what they were really doing. The Croatians were like a mirror held up to the Germans faces, and the Germans couldn't accept what they saw, especially in themselves.
Very good video but with an abrupt ending (which calls for a sequel). For some additional reading i can recommend books by Jozo Tomasevich, War and occupation in Yougoslavia (available in English, i have a .pdf but in Croatian), and Slavko Goldstein "1941, godina koja se vraća", but am afraid is not available in English.
Sequel will come!
What Serbs forget (on purpose) is that in general regular people prior to ww2 didn't know who Ustashe were. They were on the political margins (just as communists) before ww2. The most democratically popular party was the Croatian Peasant Party (HSS) with Macek who refused to cooperate with Nazis.
My greatgrandfather was a HSS polititian in a place next to Zagreb, and he told us that people were stopping him in the street to ask "who were the Ustashe?" once they took power with the help of Italians in 1941. They simply had no idea who these new rulers were. It's not like the average person could do a google search. However, they were satisfied to have an independant Croatia free from the Serbian barbaric savages from the east.
To the OP of the video, I would suggest you remove "Croatia ❤️ Hitler" in the video, as many Croatians were also members of the partisan movement. Tito himself was a Croat. Also, modern day Croatia has nothing to do with "Independant State of Croatia" as your clickbait would perhaps suggest.
Thanks for sharing this. Do notice the tumbnail includes a question mark.
@@user-rz4ut4ot5c "turned into"? they always WERE bloodthirsty animals, created as a result of a Serbian politics towards Croats.
Just a reminder that Ante Pavelic was a memeber of the Yugoslav parliament and he witnessed the assassination of Stjepan Radic and other HSS members. After that, he went away to Italy and went underground with his movement.
@@user-rz4ut4ot5cand then she woke up
"All that glitters is not gold"-Spongebob squarepants
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There's no liar as the Serbs liars . Italians numbered skeletons
Another magnificent historical coverage video about political, military, Genocides circumstances in[ Croatia 🇭🇷] during WW2...How NDH committed atrocities, Genocides and religion doctrine converting to catholicism...how Croatia separated from Yugoslavia under Nazism and fascism influences...it was informative historical coverage....thank you Sir Stefan my respect 🙏 and appreciate for yours amazing history teaching 👍🏻...I hope more success for (History Hustle) channel
Croat people did not support fascism/nacizm but organized bigest antifascism in Europe and relatively the whole world.
Enjoy listening to your Dutch spin on history.
Explain.
Interesting.👌 Somewhat Ironic that Tito was Croatian i believe.
Yes, indeed. Most Croats didn't support ustasha.
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The whole communist partisan leadership was Croatian.Croatian partisans attacked the Germans on 22.6.1941
if we don't bring this horrific history to light we are doomed to letting it be repeated. We can never forget the horrors these innocents went through
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Repeated like in Vukovar?
during WWII 23 of my relatives were killed in Jasenovac. I think honest Croatians are ashamed of such creation as NDH...
I understand. Sad what happened. I visited Jasenovac a few days ago. Video recorded and will be released in a few months.
23 relatives that gives me same vibe of 6 million jews died when it was really like 300.000 max lol
@@sentaveliki425what a tone deaf thing to say, let alone think. You really need to do some more traveling or some more learning, as youre still a child at mind
Stop lying
@@jakovsandrovcan3471 i don't understand why the truth bothers you? in the documents of the victim, including my relatives, their names, ages (3-72) and which village they were from are listed. ustashas slaughtered, raped and killed all those who were not on their side. jadovno, prebilovci, dretelj... will never be forgotten...
Stefan, we learn in primmary and high school that Croatia actually never elect Ustaše or KPH (Communist Party of Croatia). Both sides did political repression, massacres, war crimes, purges, and opposition boycott. Promotion of one-party system by KPH (KPJ) wasn't exactly democraric election.
However we recognize antifa movement (ZAVNOH) and partisans as only real Croatian representative deffence (and military) force against occupators in WW2, since Royalist (Chetniks) deffend only Serbs, kill all non-Serbs to make Greater Serbia by plan of Stevan Moljević in 1941., collabirate with Communists (Užice Republika) Germans and Italian fascists to succeed in their plan.
We learn that only legit goverment was HSS and Banate of Croatia which was against nazis, comunists and/or royalists (chetniks) but they refuse to join Central Powers and couldn't organize their army and volunters (Hrvatska građanska zaštita i Hrvatska seljačka zaštita) against them since occupation.
But that doesn't mean HSS members, army and volunteers didn't join either Croatian Communist Partisans (they didn't join political party but choose to join army and volunteers in minor numbers), lead by so-called Federal State of Croatia, and/or Croatian Home Guard, lead by so-called Independence State of Croatia (they didn't join political party but choose to join army or volunteers in major nubers).
Vlatko Maček, former leader of Banate of Croatia was for Western Allies but was forced to choose between KPH and UHRO which goverment and it's army need to be recignized by HSS (and Banate of Croatia). He (Maček, leader of HSS), refuse offers of Central Powers offer and Pavelić was ellected. As punishment for refusing he was sentence 6 months in Jasenovac and later join He (inclunding most of HSS) didn't like communists either since he was strong democrat. Later, in June 1944 on Vis member of HSS and as representative diplomat of occupied Banate of Croatia and Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Ivan Šubašić sign "Sporazum Tito-Šubašić" on Vis.
It just goes to show how bad life was under Stalin.
Stalin never ruled in Croatia.
The Balkans, always a mess but well presented and nicely explained all the same.
Is well presented, but not all. Affairs in that part of Europa are more complex even Stefan and many people thinks. Is no without reason why there is always a mess.
@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh If you just stick to the 20th Century, from the assassination of the Archdule Franz Ferdinand in 1914 to the Balkan Wars of the nineties, the Balkans have always been a historical mess.
@@davidraper5798 Gavrilo Princip was a serbian terrorist who start ww1, supported by aggressive Serbia and Russia in that time. And Balkan is really a mess during a history, but you do not understand that well. For you, people from there are just European savages. Leave that, because is too complex for you.
this history is horrific
Agree.
Romanian here. Welcome to the mess that is called the Balkans. 😊
Luckily things are better now.
@@HistoryHustleSerbian political leadership still wants new wars.Just follow the news
Obrigado, Stefan! ヽ(͡◕ ͜ʖ ͡◕)ﾉ 🍀 🇧🇷
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Obrigado ? Nema na čemu. Lol
@@1978MODO That is the spirit. Thank you!
The "Banovina of Croatia" which was an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was invaded by Nazi Germany in April 1941.
The last "Ban" (viceroy) of Croatia, the Yugoslav/Croat politician Ivan Šubašić, fled to London with the rest of the Yugoslav govt.
Nazi Germany installed the puppet govt of the "Independent State of Croatia" (NDH) with the head of state being Prince Aimone, 4th Duke of Aosta from the House of Savoy ( imposed by fascist Italy).
You're kinda repearing what I am stating in the video.
There's a trainer at my gym, he's first generation Serbian to the U.S. He's in his early 30's and holds a master's degree. We talk history and politics and he completely supports Putin's actions against Ukraine. It's interesting to get different perspectives.
If Kosovo can break off for being Muslim then the Russian parts of Ukraine can break off America set the standard
Serbia fought separatist wars in Croatia and Bosnia first, so they deserved Kosovo doing the same to them. And what about Chechnya then?
@@thejosh3855 Except if by the AVNOJ conference agreement when Yugoslavia was in the making (original document still kept on public disposal in Jajce museum) there was not an agreement that Croats and Serbs in the future federal republic of Croatia will have EQUAL rights and that decisions of ones in republic could not be brought without the agreement of the others. Since Croatia separated without agreement from the local Serbs who used to live there and since they were expelled from all public job positions by their new 90s leader Franjo Tuđman (who publicly say that everyone should be proud to be called Ustaše), Serbs had 100% right to separate and join Serbia if they wish. Plain and simple, they broke the contract which was made prior to the WW2 ended and thanks to which they even had Croatia as a territorial state. If Serbian partisans on that meeting did not supported this Tito dictate, Croatia in today borders would not be existing at all after WW2.
@@rogyn8484 The 1974 constitution gave constituent republics the right to independence. The Serbs were a privileged minority at just 12% of the population, and they did not need to be consulted, Serbia had its own republic and Croatia had the right to have its republic, with its historical borders. The Serbs were offered forms of autonomy within Croatia on several occasions, they refused and instead started a war to carve up 1/3 of Croatia (even in areas where Serbs were not a majority or a significant minority) to steal Croatian territory so it could be absorbed by Serbia proper.
The federal borders of Croatia were recognised by representatives of all of the Yugoslav republics in 1945, and were recognised as international borders, uti possidentis juris, by the Badinter commission and by the international community.
Serbs had all of their rights (equality with Croats and other minorities, national seats in the Croatian parliament etc) already guaranteed by the constitution.
It was the RSK that (attempted) to violently secede from the federal and constitutional borders of Croatia first, which was being supported by Serbia in order to create an enlarged Serbian state. Only several months of being in the middle of a Serb rebellion did Croatia opt for full independence, and after years of Milošević and other Serb nationalists violating the constitution, promoting nationalist violence, revoking Kosovo and Vojvodina's autonomy to rig votes in support of Serbia and so on.
Tuđman was an ex-Partisan, he was hardly an Ustaše. Sure, he said some nationalistic things, but his nationalism was a reaction to the violent nationalism that had started with Milošević et al and his nationalist cronies in Croatia and Bosnia that wanted to create separatist states to annex them to Serbia.
@@thejosh3855 Serbs were offered forms of autonomy within Croatia only when the conflict culminated later in the war and not before this (in my opinion Z4 plan was a fair offer afterwards but Milošević and Tuđamn had their own deals under the table regarding Bosnia). Until conflict started Serbs were kicked out of the public sector jobs, forced to agree on the newly independent state of Croatia despite their own disagreements with that and Croatian political leaders who were back then clearly pro-Ustashe oriented, together with their NDH symbolism waving NDH flags and many of the local Croat political leaders publicly glorifying Pavelić. Tuđman multiple times during the war mentioned Ustashe in a positive light promoting that ideology even in the secret recordings he endorsed ethnic cleaning and harassment of the Serbs. Croatia is recognized as a Federal state and that is true but it was the AVNOJ conference and agreement on it that enabled Croatia to be recognized in the first place, if there was no agreement by the Serbian representatives at the conference who were promised equal rights and equal share in decision making Croatia would not even be created in a shape that is visible today. Saying that Serbs were a privileged minority at just 12% is really shame on your side, after what had happened in WW2 Serbian population perished and was reduced for at least 25% in the most gruesome war crimes conducted on the NDH territory. This is why in AVNOJ conference Serbs in Croatia were specifically mentioned and was one of the topics they discussed the most (of course Tito then made a deal promising some fake brotherhood and unity). After all if there was no Pavelić regime Serbs will now count 35% of the total population in Croatia and you all know this. Tesla family that was wiped out from Croatia, some members of which ended up in Jasenovac are now been glorified as Croats. Vojvodina even today have status of Autonomous Province within Serbia and was never a real question, after all Serbs in Vojvodina not made a deal with Hungarians before Yugoslavia is created (who were by the way on the side of the axis during the WW2 and with their militia conducted mass expelling and execution of Serbs like for example during the Novi Sad raid). Kosovo is topic for itself, if Serbs were not allowed to be independent in other places then why Albanians are granted those rights? SR Yugoslavia was recognized within its borders afterwards so if they said that no borders are changeable at that point US were directly violating international law by entering the conflict and supporting separatist terrorist group on the ground providing them with logistic, weapons and air support against the state they publicly recognized before. We saw over the time that they are respecting international laws only when it suits them like now in Ukraine, otherwise they will do anything to find excuses for their actions.
All those areas where most Ustasas came from are actually historicaly Serb areas. The Ustase came mostly from Serbs who were converted to Catholicism. This was Vatican's project.
Haven't heard this ridiculous conspiracy theory yet.
@@HistoryHustle Well, you'll need to do more research then. Plenty of books by historians have documented this.
@@HistoryHustlethats serb nonsense they also believe they built pyramids and were greatest warriors decendets of god but hey dont ask why everyone in the balkans hate serbs surely a couincedence
@@HistoryHustle Im glad that your videos are attracting so many Serbian conspiracy theorists. Perhaps it will help you to reflect on what you're saying in your videos.
Croatian nationalist propaganda lol
"Germans were appalled" (with ustasa violence)... Sentence to remember.
One misinformed Nazi crackhead with rose tinted glasses was appalled. Germans practiced 100 for 1 in most occupied territories including Serbia. It's a fact recorded by the Nazis themselves and the most often cited reason for weak Chetnik resistence headed by Mihailović. I suppose we just sum up that tally and add it up to Ustashe's because that's convenient for the Greater Serbian narrative.
We fought the wrong enemy also ⌚️ Europa the last battle
Sure they were 😂🤓
Who analyzed Croatian atrocities SS in competition?
mister stefan or stevan = mit o jasenovcu roman leljak documents and realy history
Not sure what you are trying to say.
@@HistoryHustlehe's trying to say that servs and germans wanted to blame Croats for everything by telling those propagand lies and over exaggerate killed ppl by putting random names so it looked like it was millions while it was all around 70 000 not just serbs there were excavation around jasenovac and there were no bones or signs of mass murders even jews were participate in it and said that it was lie
And that children camps is the biggest lie of them all that was filmed and directed by communist first they were saying that we convert them to catholics and than they said we killed them they can't decide which was of those two so they mostly say we killed children bc it sounds more horrifying classic servian propagand
Ljeljak is exagerating on another side
I could never understand the Balkans....
In what way?
@@HistoryHustle always fighting each other..and with so much hate...
@@daffyd5867 there is only one country in the Balkans that wages war woth everyone around them and it is Serbia
Then, if you want that, you must learn a lots of historical facts.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh exactly......so much there...and complicated...
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Their mistake...Repent and all Good
Ok.
Croatian brutality towards Serbian and Jewish people shocked even germans in WW2. What's really sad is that the history repeted it self in 1991 and the west supported it again. Western politics are cheap , dirty and shady.
What the ustashe did to serbs in ww2.. serbs did to croatian, bosniak and albanian civilians in the 1990s...
I beg you please dont play the victims when you simply arent..
@@enerwagner2876 I am not the victim of anything. I did visit there. Were you there to witness it or you are just brain washed by western media ?
Nice victim playing
@@enerwagner2876 I am not Croatian or Serbian Incase you wanted to know. Facts are facts
@@merzz9436 I am not Serbian or Croatian. Facts are fact. We can't change the history. I was in your country and heard all the facts about Jasenovac from some highly educated people. Facts my friend
Stevan?Stefan?Dutch from 😅Kragujevac
Stefan.
Many of the figures were taken from communist propaganda after WW2, but today we know the exact figures, which are significantly less but still horrific. The Ustashas killed more Croats than Jews, Roma and Serbs combined (similarly, Nedic's regime in Serbia killed the most Serbs, even much more than Pavelic).
It is very questionable about the camps for children: what would they be used for additional killing when in the death camps the children were already dead after one hour most of the time. These were attempts to save the children, but due to the poor conditions, the mortality rate was above 20%.
Hitler did not approve the genocide of the Serbs and as soon as he found out about it in the summer of 1942, he canceled it.
According to German reports, the Ustashas had minimal support among the Croats. The Croats developed the strongest anti-fascist movement, which Randolph Churchill called the European anti-fascist miracle, which included a large number of Serbs as well as the Jewish Battalion, Czech, Italian...
Wonder which sources you use? I detect some Croatian revisionism in your reply.
And I detected ignorants that are "teaching" what they do not know. We have scientistic studies where Serb and Croatian scientists agree about what happened, how many victims there were, but you evidently never heard of Serb Bogoljub Kočović and Croat Vladimir Žerjavić and others, so you are revisionist.
My family were all partisans saving endangered, also Jews and 4 Serb orphans. What is your story, "expert"?
Great video. You forgot to tell that NDH had policy of conversion of orthodox Serbs into Catholicism. Approximately 200 000 Serbs are converted. Their crimes was unbelievable in history of this area even in the times of Ottoman Empire chaotic period. In matter of killing Jews, they had to pay Germans some "compensation" because they did it and didn't export to Germany.
Serbian Propaganda
You made it up!
@@bbssssssssssssssssss Learn history boys, both of you. Don't live in lies and deceit.
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What lies?That the Orthodox Church established a Patriarchate during the Ottoman period, Christianizing from Montenegro, Bosnia, to Vojvodina? Read Corović and Cirkovic...........
Do you know the name of the Serbian mother? Hacı Mustafa Şinikoğlu Paşa
Where are those 70% Muslims from Belgrade, 100% from Nis and 62% in all of Serbia?
How did one become a Serb? According to the Constitution of Turk Obrenović from 1835, chapter eleven: 'Every official or servant of a Christian professing in the Serbian service in Serbia and outside Serbia at the time of the promulgation of this constitution; everyone who has been in Serbia for ten years, or who has immovable property in Serbia, is considered a Serb'!
you serbs are hilarious 😂 you are making a mockery on your victims and yourselves with these lies
Croatians were saved by the Germans. When they came to burn down villages the German Soldiers helped them to leave before being killed. Im alive now thanks to them! Tell the truth!
Yes, what the Ustasa did was no different to what the chetniks and the communist partisans did to the Croatian civilians and general populaltian. ..... Why have you not highlighted this???
See title.
See other videos.
You present an over-simplification.
To this day, this has been a sore topic in the relations between Croatia and Serbia. It was also one of the justifications for Serbia to commit war crimes during the Yugoslav Wars
Gee, I wonder why?
@@frenzalrhomb6919because again Croats started killing civilians and when Serbs fouth back that were war crimes.
@@nukana-wb9bm Why don't think before you post? Of course it was mostly children of those WW2 Veterans that were fighting in the 1990s.
Some things just keep on keeping on, in a Society, for example, the Catholics and Protestants of Northern Ireland have been at on another's throats for decades.
It wasn't a "justification", more than it was cheap propaganda used by Serb nationalists to "justify" their wars of aggression and crimes in Croatia and Bosnia.
@@nukana-wb9bm They are just like the Russians, it's sad how self-destructive they are as nations.
Did you mention the assassination of Croatian members of parliament in Belgrade? Serbian radicals made Croats to look for more extreme mesures.
Did you watch the video?
@@HistoryHustle Yes. You didn't mention killings of Croatian parliament members.
@@earthlingavian1132 this guy is on Putin paylist, report him also to Azov battalion, we will find him
@@HistoryHustle Puniša Račić shoot Stjepan Radić.
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One time Nazi all time Nazi
"God save us from plague, famine and Croats"
"The Croats are the best colaborators, they have no shame"
@@milansimonovic8267 just Look what Joe biden and Tony Blair said about serbs
@@milansimonovic8267dobrica cosic "father of the serbian nation"
Serbian national pride is lying...
@@barmajutta-oj8td dobrica cosic is a communist raised and traind by Tito the Croat, he does not know better bit the Croat way
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Please provide an answer to this question.
I do not run the ads. Ads are costumed by YT for specific user. In other words: YT thinks you are interested in this. Can I ask: what ads you see?
Croatia 🇭🇷 just wanted a free country……nothing to see here
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Free? Meaning occupied by the Germans and the Italians, who murdered and enslaved Croats too?
@@thejosh3855they murdered commie croats and about italians tho...they are stupid just look what happend against greece they literally needed daddy hitler to save them same happend with us
@@thejosh3855 And what Serbia want today? Free Serbia, occupied by the Russians, who murdered and enslaved Ukrainians too? PS: For occupators better Germans than Russians.
@@wsffff The Italians and Germans murdered tens of thousands of Croats, including innocent civilians. Look at the atrocities committed in villages, such as Podhum or Lipa? Or the Italian concentration camps, especially for Croats on Rab and Molat?
Yes, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was a dictatorship and Croats were repressed, which led to the rise of the Ustaše. But doesn't justify their collaboration and their crimes, including against other Croats.
The Ustaše gave ethnic Croat land to Italy and Hungary, and let the Germans exploit Croatia and Croats.
And 50 years later horror emerged again, mostly done by Serbs.
Fascist crots
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@@SlavaStepaStepanovic Of course WW2 was a different conflict but what happened back then was used by warmongers and criminals during the Yugoslav wars. It is common knowledge which group did most of the war crimes. Tito held Yugoslavia united under communist rule, but after his death violence started again.
@@SlavaStepaStepanovic what? Firstly, Thompson is not national hero XD many Croats hate him just as serbs...secondly, Thompson is banned from signing and performing anywhere in Croatia so your argument is invalid
@@SlavaStepaStepanovic It's common knowledge that serbs were the most brutal participants of the yugoslav war...the war crimes they commited are same as those of Ustaša in ww2...remember, your paramilitary soldiers slaughtered children too...at least Ustaša were ultra nationalistic militia ran by government, while children slaughterers in 90's were serbian civilians commiting war crimes against their neighbours
Croatia never joined the Axis because NDH was not Croatian state, nor was Pavelić Croatian leader, but Vladko Maček who refused Germany call to be appointed as the head of new Croatian state. ZAVNOH was the real Croatian Government led by Vladimir Nazor and Croatian partisans were real heroes.
Croats and Serbs were both the victims of the Ustashe terrorist regime (most of them were Bosnians and Herzegovinian bandits and outlaws). It is a bit complicated situation here on the Balkans, a foreign historian would hardly understand what were the happenings here that have been existing for centuries.
Thanks for sharing your insights. I do stick to my claim because Croatia was officially one of the Axis, albeit an unstable one and albeit ruled by an extremist minority. More on this topic in the future.
@@HistoryHustle if the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (with Banovina of Croatia as its part) was offically under occupation (with its regent and heir to the throne and whole government in exile) and considering the fact there were talks between king Petar and Tito on the topics of how should the next Yugoslav Government look like, then it is clear the NDH was not officially Croatia.
It looks all black and white to someone who observes this from a neutral perspective with no knowledge on Croat Serb relations, history of defining national names on the Balkans, ethnic composition, main pro Yugo or pro ustasha agitators among Croats...
@@HistoryHustle In Croatian Constituion (Ustav RH) it's say: "in the establishment of the foundations of state sovereignty in the period of the Second World War, expressed against the declaration of the Independent State of Croatia (1941) in the decisions of the National Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Croatia (1943), and then in the Constitution of the People's Republic of Croatia (1947)..."
Un mio modesto parere . La conciliazione tra i popoli si fa con i conti della storia . Dunque Serbi ,Croati ,sloveni ,kossovari ,bosniaci .ognuno di questi popoli dovrà ripulire i loro armadi dagli scheletri nascosti . Solo così può esserci una pacificazione . L'Italia e la Slovenia hanno superato tutti gli ostacoli . L'esempio è fata dalle citta di Gorizia / Nova Gorica camdidate a capitale europea . Se andate avanti con il vostro nazionalismo non ci sarà mai futuro . Il Futuro sono gli Stati Uniti d'Europa!
Capisco che la Croazia volesse uno stato libero però secondo me gli ustasha hanno esagerato
Agree.
Ustaše were also like 50% Bosnian Muslims who were also terrorised by the Serbian regime prior to WW2.Most Croats did not support the Ustaše regime
Ah, great, again quating Jovan about stuff on the Balkans. This Jovan really must be very impartial, unlike all the other Jovans.
Jovan ?
He have own politic Jews,Roma people that is not our politic
Who do you mean with our?
@@HistoryHustle Ustaše movment 1929 and later Ante Pavelić survive war and others .Some in Argentine,some in Spain and they never speak against Jews,Roma people then again against Jugoslavia ,communist and Belgrade( Serbs).That is not our( Croat) politic that we have something against Jews and Roma people
Josip Frank and Ante Starčević- Croat pure party of right.That is HSP party( Ante Pavelić 1941-1945) and Ante Starčevića choose for leader few months before he will die a Jew ( Josip Frank) for leader HČSP or HSP party.His daughter married with Eugen Kvaternik and he declare NDH and his son is one of the most important ustaše Eugen Dido Kvaternik.For ustaše enemy is not Jews and Roma people then Serbs and Yugoslavia.That is simply not politici of ustaša.They thake that because those from Austria with mustache and today HSP party exist since 1990 or 1991 and they newer speak against Jews or Roma people
Bunch of lies