Epic Drum Battle - Louie Bellson and Buddy Rich | Carson Tonight Show
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2023
- Original Airdate: 03/06/1969
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To be clear,this was not a drum " battle". It was two of the best of all time playing a drum duet.
ASTONISHING TALENT! GREAT MUSIC!
The Tonight Show Was The Right Show, When Late Night Was A Great Night !
The main reason I watched it every night was to see Buddy Rich, who was a regular guest. This was by far, the best drumming night on the show.
That's the pinnacle of drumming, right there. Little did we know in 1969 that it would never get get any better. Two drumming titans, at the peak of their power. Awesome and humbling at the same time. Legends that will never be eclipsed!
BS Speed and Noise .....that's it !
@Domenic V. They were just riffing and jamming, not playing a specific piece of music. Loosen up, Rich and Bellson were two of the finest drummers on the planet.
@@veecee3669 you loosen up....I'm entitled to my opinion....drumming since 1959
@@veecee3669 you loosen up....I'm entitled to my opinion....drumming since 1959
@@domenicv7962Both got impressive speed, and they did bring a lot of noise. Overall they got impressive skills. This is the first time I even heard Louis Bellson and Buddy Rich takes the stage. And you been drumming since 1959. You a legend. Got to respect the OG😊
I love how they both complimented each other.
They weren't....for the most part they were trying to out do each other,....playing the same stuff as they usually do....just with more intensity.....give me Krupa any day over these two noise makers !!!
@@domenicv7962 They were playing off of each other and building on it, while staying in context with the rhythm of the tune. Professionals don't have to compete with each other. And afterwards, each did pay the other a compliment. These two, Krupa, and several other pros were equally as great, all in different ways.
@@domenicv7962 That guy didn't even compare to Buddy and Louie.Get that straight creep.
4 legends up there! Louie, Buddy, Rogers and Slingerland.😢
slingerland snare hoop turned inward made for real pop rim shots
Slingerland drums were one of the best along with Rogers
@@margerykirner5604 Louie also used Gretsch and Buddy also used Ludwig. No matter what drums they played, they always sounded great.
I've owned all the brands over the last 5 decades, and I've settled on Gretsch. I'm not saying they're better drums, just that they are my personal favorite (sort of like choosing chocolate over vanilla or strawberry ice cream.
Mr Carson is and always will be one of the all time greats. R.I.P. Excellent channel dedicated to the all time best talk show host!!
Hands down
Sheer darned genius! Phew! Only the real Tonight show could feature something like this!!
Johnny was and is the greatest late night showman in history. Thanks Johnny, RIP
Yes, probably was THAT but personally, many people who've had quasi-intimate or even just passing contact with the man thought he was a
"prique!"
OMG Buddy's snare tone here is insane. No slush to hide imperfections. Tight as drum core with a beautiful ring. Thanks for posting this treasure!
It was the Slingerland Buddy Rich 14x4 signature model
That's how I like it.
It was not a Slingerland. It was a Fibes. His White Marine Pearl Fibes drums was his favorite snare he ever had. He played on it even through many endorsment changes. The owner of Slingerland even ask him one time to play a Slingerland snare, Buddy replied "I will when you make a drum as good as this one." Slingerland even put a slungerland badge on his fibes drum at one point so ppl would think he is playing all Slingerland.
@@brent3760do you know what size?
@@chrispywilliams1992 4 x 14 I believe
Louis Bellson is my all time favorite drummer!
Mine too and a super nice guy.
He takes a back seat to no one, one of the true greats.
And he played my favorite kit...Rogers! Still have the receipt for the kit I bought in '67. Remember sitting, spell bound, watching them on this night.
Traditional grip, in suit, tie, impressive.
@@petegregory517
Louie was one Of the greatest for sure. Rogers are my favorite drums too. You’re blessed to have bought yours new in 1967 (my birth year). I have an early 70’s Rogers and it’s the finest kit I’ve ever owned. I’m so happy to see the return of the brand. Enjoy your kit!
@@jons3808 Buddy man since ???…late 50’s?-because my real initials are “BR”. Not the only reason, of course, his left hand just mesmerized me, I always used traditional grip. I copied his logo to my drum head with a magic marker. It was not the scribbling of a 15 yr old, I gotta admit, it was a good job because in those days I was a perfectionist, took me years to get past it. Drove my mom crazy.
The apprentice takes the easy and makes it look difficult while the master takes the impossible and makes it look easy! Neil Peart on Buddy Rich!
Well, they're both great drummers and the truth is Louie totally held his own trading fills with Buddy and BR himself knew he was on the stage with an actual equal. Two great drummers, may they both rest in peace.
"Nobody could play better than Buddy Rich. If you could play up to him, fine, but nobody could play any better." Louie Bellson. I saw Louie, Buddy and Roy Burns in concert and they all blew my mind. Buddy was king in my view.
Agree. Saw Buddy live back in the early 70's. My mom and dad took me and my brother. Blown away.
watch Speedy Jones playing Whirlybird.....kicked Bud's ass
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Huub Janssen (Europe's Buddy Rich) would have given both a run for their money czcams.com/video/rCJCiy3Vl6Y/video.html
Buddy was in his own tier. Louie was great, Buddy was SUPERNATURAL!
I think Buddy got the title as top dog simply because he had the balls to literally proclaim himself as the best then pull off insane performances as backup for that claim.
Just crazy how good they were slamming. And wearing suits no less.
Right! I can barely play in shorts and a t shirt, I couldn't imagine in a full suit.
I was gonna say not only were they great but they looked great doing it. Cuff links and all!
There is a clip of Buddy vs Animal on the Muppets that was just as epic. You should watch it
The suits were the working clothes of the day. They had class back then. Today, every day is Casual Friday.
@@yeltsin6817 I've seen it and I've always who Animal's human was.
Two unbridled horses running wild and we get to enjoy it. Louis and Buddy were unbelievable with the speed and power just throwing bombs at each other. Anyone who thinks this was just noise wasn't paying attention to what either was actually playing. Brilliant!
Louie Bellson played with our high school band for a charity event and I got his autograph on a piece of sheet music. It kills me that I don’t know where it’s at.
Look on google maps :)
Buddy was on The Tonight Show a number of times during his career. He and Carson were really good friends. Carson being a drummer hobbyist didn't hurt.
Ed shaughnessy was a pretty good drummer as well!
@@michaelgawel5823 Most definitely. That show had it's share of good drummers, including Marvin "Smitty" Smith when Kevin Eubanks was Jay Leno's band leader.
What is amazing is that these guys are impeccably dressed and playing with this intensity.......A++. on two levels....and smiling and interacting with each other.....
Omg…fantastic!!! Look at them go!! Perfection……crazy talent!!! Natural for them, such strength!!
Wow, what else can you say…. Two of the GOAT’s on one show. Actually, three, Johnny was the greatest too!!!
Undoubtably the two greatest drummers ever and playing furiously in suit and tie... unbelievable!
In 1956 I saw Buddy in person in Miami Beach with his quartet, I think it was. His four or eight bar fills were delicious. You can hear them on the album Buddy Rich in Miami. In the 60s I saw Louis Bellson at the Metropole in mid-town Manhattan. I sat at the bar, a few feet from the two bass drums. What a guy!
WOW!! .... Their drum sticks are flying so fast you can't hardly see them!!
Two of the best drumming titans of their day. This is gold!
Thought I saw them all but this one was buried somewhere for a long time.
Two of the best and they are both using traditional grip. Now you know why. 😎
Seriously? Obviously, you haven't watched enough videos of them using matched grip. There was nothing they couldn't do. Watch Joe Morello using both grips, plus hands and fingers on "Take Five".
@@boomerguy9935 I went to Berklee College of music in Boston we met Joe Morello & Buddy Rich. He said that over 99% of the time he always use traditional grip and recommended it. As did Buddy Rich, Louis Bellson, Philly Joe Jones, Elvin Jones and all the best drummers in the game.. P.S. The original recording of Take Five was recorded in the studio using traditional grip--- no fingers
@@garrison7888 You misunderstand me. I I'm not saying that match grip is better than cross grip/traditional grip (I use it 95% of the time). I'm simply saying that these guys and many other top drummers are capable of using match grip and do it equally as well as they do the cross grip.
Like you, I prefer cross grip, but it's nice to be flexible. I can't imagine doing a rumba without including the cross grip on the tom.
I'm aware of the studio recording of "Take Five" and that he also did not use a crash cymbal on it (See the Memphis Drum video with the original "Take Five Cymbal"). But in some of his other live videos, he does an amazing job of using sticks with both grips, both sides of his hands and his fingers, and even has to pull his bass drum back from creeping away during his solo without literally, "missing a beat".
We are on the same page. I just thought that you were saying the match grip should never be used. I feel that a good drummer can use all grips when necessary. Buddy, Gene and Joe all did an amazing job with the match grip. I would love to have the skill of Joe's left hand, but I will never be that good.
@@boomerguy9935 RLRR-LRLL
Wowsers, those sticks were flying... literally, the sticks were a blur... truly fantastic!
1:15 am couldn't sleep. Just looked at this drum battle. Let me just say when anyone can actually play an instrument, that's actually REAL TALENT! Rich and Bellson dropped some serious DRUMMING SKILLS!
I had the pleasure of meeting Louie Bellson at the Keith Purvis drum shop in Burien Washington when he did a drum clinic. Keith and Louie were very close friends. This was back in 1993 I do believe, Louie shook my hand, had a very strong grip, and was a very humble, nice man.
Awesome drummers. Both had amazing skill, speed, power and precision. Louis', Rogers drums sound incredible
I love my Slingerlands, but man Rogers weren’t too bad either
@@louismastrangelo3781 Louie played Slingerland as well 😅❤
im exhausted.
Exactly!
Thats a LOT of fire power on that stage there, and it's smoldering hot.
Hands were moving so fast, sometimes it was a blur! Fantastic drumming. Can't sit still while watching them. 🥁👏
Slow it down. Well, it's still a blur. Nevermind. LOL
I saw Buddy Rich at a small theater in my hometown town, early 70s...and yup he was a Baddass on the kit, also thought Gene Krupa was pretty dam good as well.
Yes! Those two were the best I’ve ever heard!
I like Buddy Rich. I’m sure I’ll probably catch hell for this, but I’ve always seen him as more of a snare drum/floor tom player, whereas most really talented drummers like him use the entire kit.
I met both of them when I was a kid drummer and they were both super cool about giving a kid an autograph. Louie insisted I meet Pete Christlieb, the tonight show saxophonist, and get his autograph as well. He told me about the Zildgian 21" rock ride cymbal and that was the cymbal I bought the next day. One of Johnny's prized possessions was one of Buddy,s kits. Oh and Louie also insisted I meet his wife, Pearl Bailey. Great memories of two legends.
So nice to see someone actually challenge Buddy! The battles with Krupa were always sad affairs with him way past his prime.
Two of the greatest but what I like about Krupa is he wasn't all speed. He was melodic in his drumming and didn't feel the need to play super fast. Sometimes less is more.
Krupa started this kind of explosive drumming. Bellson and Rich made it flashier.
Melodic yes, but rhythmic especially! It's what set him somewhat apart from others. Let's not forget Joe Morello! Also, in his own class!
NOT REALLY!
That's nuts,I wonder how many beats per minute are they hitting, unreal
Simple - they were hitting all of them. :)
Approximately 300bpm
Wow! This is a huge moment in the American television
For 1969? They could have played for any Rock N Roll band in the world. Then or now
I don’t get your point. Of course they could have! Rock n Roll is a down grade….a much simpler genre of music compared to what these guys played.
So glad that I got to see this. AMAZING!
I love the fact that Buddy was 'wore out' from Louie's slug fest here. Also, the unspoken stars were Slingerland and Rogers. What a great time!
Always remember that the kits these guys played including cymbals were custom made for them! Although they could make anything sound great!
These men right here pave the way for hundreds of thousands of drummers over the years they are phenomenal never ever disrespect the legends
Love the sound on Bellso’s snare
Both were freaking awesome, saw LB at a WDW jazz fest,and just sat there in amazement
The Good Lord broke the mold. Imagine the battles he hears with Rich, Bellson, Krupa and Morello. Heaven help me!
There are no words for how much I miss those days and these two guys. Thank you for the post!
Man oh man Oh man!!! I wish TV was like this today!!! Send me back to this date!
Buddy and Louie were as tight as can be! The best, period!! Thanks for posting this!
Talk about the good old days. Now you have trouble finding two guys they could hold their own for that long of a solo❤
I love how Buddy and Louie are just all smiles!
Phenominal
Buddy snare head is very tight...hi pitch and rebounds like he is hitting a rock.
One word - impeccable
Sounds like all hell is coming down, and it has never sounded any better.
2 incredible drummers on The Tonight Show at the same time...LEGENDARY!!!
Wow! I played drums in hs, but not even close to these guys 😳
Saw this when I was a boy and took up drums. Later the harmonica and I sing. These guys were out of this world. Corky Lang of Mountain had that athletic ability. Go Steelers!
The Golden Age Of Entertainment, Television and Drummers. Fantastic!
I like this presentation ! It reminds me of, on CD, or cassette tape--Buddy Rich vs Max Roach, which I've listened to before, quite frequently, in the past.
Yeah I remember that one. My father had the 33 Lp of that one.
I had the great fortune to perform a drum battle with Louie in 1995....A great time in my career.
Two Monsters of Our Time
Buddy on Slingerland and
Louis on Rogers
To Hear These Two Cats Live is
Another Dimension
The Sound of Those Great Drum
Companies Wow
Thank you for that clip.
Not even breaking a sweat……incredible left hands…….Thankyou & God Bless you both…..
Buddy was sweating his ass off! The left hand is the secret weapon.
people who were not around then may not believe this but this was a big story in entertainment news back then
I still have the jazz fest program signed when Louie came back to his hometown area back in 95. My father took me to the show. Had no idea he and my dad were classmates in school. Got to meet him down at the stage before the event.
Two Of My Favorite Drum Heroes. Play Fellas. May You Both Rest In Peace.
Phenomenal!
This is absolutely insane. The only factor missing is Ed Shaughnessy but that would have been
way too much awsomeness for one stage.
Seriously could you imagine all three of them that would’ve been just over the top I totally agree with you 1:47
Ed was definitely up to the task
Ed shaughnessy let the band be in the forefront - a musician's musician drummer!
These guys are the reason rock drummers don't impress me very much! Two masters of Time & Space! Did louis drop a stick? No matter, he just rolls those twin bass drums! lol The guy IS human after all! That was fantastic! Thanks for posting! Absolutely Fabulous!
Didn't even notice it was so fast and clean
Johnny was a young lad here😊❣️PLay them drums DAMN👍
I notice that Buddy's riser was higher than Louie's.
That was probably a condition of his appearance.
It was always great when Carson would bring some of the best jazz drummers on stage. Carson could play drums and was taking lessons from Buddy Rich. RIP all three.
Luigi Balassoni knew Buddy Rich had heart troubles... he was definitely looking for a KO victory here!
Incredible energy, performance and talent! Those drums are tuned like bongos.
Buddy always brings out the big guns when drummers start kicking it. Only he can do stir the soup rolls so damn amazingly!
Now This Is Fire!! Real deals.
This is the best cut of this drum fest; full, actual length. The other I've seen is much briefer. Purely outstanding!
Absolutely amazing by both guys.. buddies rim shots put in such interesting places.. is amazing
Wow...is all I can say.
Rest in peace to all.
I LOVE this!!!!
WOW (If you're a Drummer... TYK)...
TIL Louie Bellson was using double bass drums in 1969.
Actually way before then
The two of them just making it look effortless.
Louie and Buddy are my drum gods! Also Gene Krupa too! As fast as they are playing, everything pulses around the quarter note!
REAL entertainment!
Buddy, as always, was playing the more hip things but Louie really held his own here. Two all time greats having fun and showing each other total respect.
Those were better times back then. People respected each other.
Please, allow me a second to catch my breath. I will be right back!
Legends!!!
xoxo The Clarences
Who had that horrible joke: Joan Rivers face is pulled tighter than Buddy Rich's snare drum.
GOLD
I hope Quite Frankly sees this! Lol….
Sincerely. Thank you for posting this. Previously the only copy on CZcams, though I am grateful for it, wasn’t very good. Feel free to post. Every one of her buddies appearances. Drummers will be grateful for it forever.
Buddy Rich is far and away my favorite musician. Musicians of this caliber don’t exist anymore. I get that. There are musicians around today who can play. I don’t understand how rap music sells after listening to something like this. Even if it’s not live........
Gotta love how Buddy Rich’s drum riser is higher the Louis Bellson's! lol.
REALLY hard to pick one over the other, but i definitely prefer the SOUND of Louis' Roges drums.
Forgot to mention, they edited out when Buddy dropped a stick.
A friend of my in-laws used to play drums with Buddy Rich.
Diane Winters - What was his name?
@@deaterk it was Buddy Christian
Back when you could actually get a full-size Swanson Apple Pie that was worth the price you paid.
Best comment award!
Lol that sounds personal
@@ROYALPRIX
Observational & Experiential. 👍✔️💯
If you paid the price it was worth it…
@@richardbilger2334
Correct. Back then. Not now.
HOLY SMOKES!!! I hadn't seen this one before! WOW! Note the dropped stick was no big deal ;-)
W.O.W. Those sticks need to be gilded and retired after all that. :D
This shows just how good Louis bellson was. That’s god he is taking on and coming out equal.
This is incredible to watch .
Thank you buddy
Buddy is my all time favorite drummer. 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
Johnny was no hack on the drums either, but that's a whole 'nother subject.