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Software engineers really optimized their work to the point that they optimized themselves out of the job
lmfao
Deadass bro. They really said I don't feel like working anymore. I'd rather not be working and let AI do my work for me
Haha haaaaa haa
Look up “Morevec’s paradox”. It was always easier to get machines to do common white-collar job tasks than to do the sort of physical tasks that babies do while growing up.
Well, nobody else was gonna do it.
As programmers we did a lot by sharing our learnings online, only to find AI learnt it all. 😣
Y'all deserve royalties
speak for yourself
@@supremeinstance your not shared learning gonna save all of us
@@rapidicecube His secret research is actually about a virus that can make A.I unlearn things quickly. It is called "A.I Alzheimer".
@@MrFireboyFTW Reparations for all of us average Joe programmers. 😉 lmfao
Me: Finally after years of procrastination ,Le me seriously starts learning how to code.
Chat-gpt: Allow me to introduce myself.
I'm doomed.
Watch what you say. Just learn deeply and learn fast. There's no room for wasting time now.
Also, get good softcover books. Eloquent JavaScript, Python 3 for Everybody and Murach's SQL are worthy choices. Due to usually bad space weather, the world may experience another Carrington Event this year.
I'm in this comment 100% 😔
Literally me 😂 I still finally started but I’m learning prompt engineering too, I think knowing programming will still be beneficial
You still have to learn programming.
I'm halfway thru my degree in software engineering. I thought I had FINALLY figured out what I want to do with my life. Now.... I'm not even sure there will be anything for me to do in 2 years
Im in a similar position except I havnt began the degree yet...
Don't change your plans. The best you can do is keep studying and improving. In the worst scenario you will still be able to create your own product or work for small companies created by people that lost their jobs.
Yeah AI will take over most entry level software developer jobs. Good luck finding a job. 😊
I’m not gonna change my degree but we’ll just have to keep learning and progressing
I'm literally looking into probably doing masters in engineering either computer or electrical. I was also in the same boat as you, I can't afford to change my major
Glad that I'm not the only person low-key panicking about the recent AI advancements. Having studied sociology and computer science and wanting to get into the field of technology policy is feeling like a better choice every day.
cud u pls tell me like how is this blend of CS and sociology. Like what kind of jobs cud such a person do, and what work does that involve?
@@yqweqwun7390 Great question! I personally wanna work in a think tank that advices policy makers on how to approach new trends/innovations such as AI, Blockchain or just boring ol' digitalization. All these technologies, especially AI, have huge effects on the job market, on people's well-being and more. People from Sociology are great at understanding how societies work but not so great at understanding technology. Like at all. On the other hand, people who create and implement tech are often not really aware on how society works and that tech isn't in a "vacuum".
Other jobs in this field are research (I did my thesis last year on how people think about NFTs), advising companies, ethics boards, politics more general and so on. I think there are two scenarios: (a) AI solves these problems and we're fine or (b) until we solved this whole AI think, people on this field are needed.
I'm actually gonna post videos on my CZcams channel about this stuff in a couple of weeks in case you wanna subscribe to learn more. :)
@@yqweqwun7390 As for the work that would be involved jobs in the field: lots of research and lots of communication of said research to people in power who don't spend all day looking at this stuff. XD
@@yqweqwun7390 True UX designers are a sub specialty of IO Psychology and need a healthy background in tech to be truly successful. Sociology could be applied with the same principle as UX just applied to a population instead of to target personas. Actually probably fits the AI conundrum being discussed here remarkably well. I would not be surprised to see an IO Sociology tract start popping up if it has not already.
i am panicking too
Tina: Guys, we are in the best possible place to avoid being overtaken by AI. Take your career into your own hands, diversify and learn.
Everyone in the comments: WE'RE SCREWED
haha
Because we are screwed, I see no silver lining even in the last advise she provided.
You cannot out diversify, or out learn AI. That is the problem, there is no point.
Thank you so much for the video! I do share your concerns and 100% agree with what you are saying. We need to act with much wisdom. And yes, please, make a video on how to navigate our careers during these times and how to adapt to all of these changes. Thanks again, Tina! 💖🙏
Every seasoned CZcams programmer is telling us we’re screwed. Oh boy 😅
I'm literally panicking since I'm currently in school for software engineering lol What do I pivot to!?!?😭
@@techwithbec machine learning
@@Brandon-mg8wx How much math will I need to learn 😭
@@techwithbecdon't panic, don't get swept by the hype. Keep calm, learn to use GPT-* in your work.
GPT and other AI will make senior engineers very productive. Demand for highly skilled devs is going to skyrocket (The juniors however are going to have an even rougher time)
So git gud!
@@techwithbec bruv me too and I'm originally coming from trucking which is being automated and now this 😅🤮😭
I'd love for you to make a video about how to adapt career wise to AI. This whole thing is making me pretty overwhelmed and I'm at a point in my life where I'm just deciding what I want to do. I feel like I need to pick something that will help me weather whatever storm is to come with all the AI development
I am in the same situation. totally share your feelings. We need much prudence and wise direction from people who have good knowledge to live in these days.
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but with authoritarianism catching on worldwide, I think the goal is just to have most people get a stipend from the gov't. Which means that you depend on gov't to live, which means they can run every aspect of your life.
Peter Thiel still says Computer Science is the best degree. Trust the billionaire.
@@I_Lemaire logicaly speaking...its still is. Get into ML or robotics.....these things need to run on hardware but its not catching up at the same pace
Here's my advice. Learn Machine Learning, Python, SQL, a.i. data science. Do it for free in spare time, or in a bootcamp. Doesn't matter. THEN. Go into an industry. Doesn't really matter what, just be good at it and MAKE SURE it's not entirely practical stuff. Get some good experience there, learn how it works. Then AUTOMATE whatever processes you can with your skills. You automatically become a top employee.
One thing that I have found to be very beneficial is being multidisciplinary. I got my education in biochemistry, and I have worked primarily in research and academia. Along the way, I've tried to learn as much as I can about computers. I can code, do sys admin, and hpc. I'm often sought out as an interlocutor between biologists and computer scientists, and I can easily shift my role between the two depending on what is needed. I am one of the few people in my field that can spend one day writing script or troubleshooting a computer, and the next performing experiments in the lab.
That's fucking awesome, my guy. Well done
thats a very good insight...i am a copywriter and have been thinking about that too..regarding multidisciplinary stuff
That's a bit of my problem , I had biology degree and I started to learn some computer skils but for now I don't really know how to put myself between the two field in way I could make money with.
@@justepourlacheruncom8393 Bioinformatics is the main intersection, but really what it comes down to is that the sequencers, and mass specs produce so much data that it requires computational support. Which means there is demand for biologists, software devs, and people who can build/manage those computers. The benefit of being multidisciplinary is that when demand for one of those decreases you can easily shift your role and stay in the same industry if not the same organization.
@@leviturner1750 thank you for your answer. I have some practice with R but I never properly learn computing skills (and computer science) so that's why I try to catch up today.
I started with the understanding of unix environment the use of bash script and handling text file. Then I want to learn more about version control, programming (in R , python and maybe C if needed) and data management.
But it’s more like a “computer for dummies” entry level than a bioinformatic knowledge.
Then I want to learn more advanced things like the mathematical foundation behind bioinformatical analysis. But with how fast things move I wonder what I should learn.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, TINA! We need your thoughts on what we can do in our careers to best set ourselves up to thrive. Thank you so much, sister!
I fully agree with what you said about still continuing to learn programming and learning about things related to AI. I started learning the basics recently and when I saw all the AI progress I had a quick thought about quitting but I am genuinely interested in it regardless, plus I have always had the feeling that learning those things is gonna be the new minimum, and now we are approaching that. Maybe tech wont be my way to a dream career anymore but I also wont be left behind. For any of you just starting this path like I am, lets ride this wave!
You will still be able to get a tech job but you just wont get paid well.
@@takoflame4948 Yupp. Many are saying this as well. The golden age of software developers is coming to an end. In a few years it will be regarded as a regular job.
I would love a "what now" video! I've been thinking about studying programming, data science, etc. for a while, but haven't taken the plunge because I'm not sure my heart is in it. Hearing your recommended options would be super helpful.
@@I_Lemaire I actually love math. I've gone through all the calculus classes, differential equations, linear algebra... I even considered being a mathematician. Another option I'm considering is electrical engineer, and have aced two semesters of engineering classes, only really disliking my advanced materials class.
@@I_Lemaire Why construction? Are there other alternatives..?
@@tapsubscribe automation engineer, electrician , driver, plumber, etc...anything that requires some physical presence and crtical thinking skills(or empathy) is safe from automation
Don't do it, you will be 100% obsolete in 2-3 years.
Cloud computing, quantum computing (it's a new field that's emerging), AR/VR developer, cyber security, IOT, robotics etc
As a psychology major, I found it so interesting that AI backs up its false responses because it 'feels' certain. Humans are the same way; there is no such thing as certainty, only an emotion that indicates whether our brain has come to a conclusion. But that emotion does not mean said conclusion is actually right or wrong.
That is only true in decisioning and results bias. There are concrete truths in the world. Also, it behooves people to remember that feel is another four letter f-word ...
It’s subjective, unless we’re dealing with concrete facts such as coding, mathematics or science, utilizing information and processing such information to create the laws and rules we follow as a by product of such utilization. My point, their are still many differences between AI and humans, people forget that humans are forever evolving, as is tech. You can draw a lot of similarities and similes from the two. However, upon further research one will find theirs certain things AI can never replicate, and that’s a real authentic human experience. It can never fully replicate the human condition, rather humans input the data that was created ourselves from a group consensus or individual singularity. I understand why people are fascinated but we have to remember it’s all programmed from us, so any AI advancement is just a copy of a human but with less errors 😅(debatable in the coding fields). To see how advanced humans can make A.I will be a dangerous game to play with. As many brilliant science fiction writers have ridiculed, people don’t ask if they should, rather they ask if they can. If they think they can and should, well, either way it’ll create controversy and overall debate. As is the way of such things.
Gettier problems and Justified True Belief, and lucky knowledge.
@@IvanAranda-rx1cb Can you explain your point or elaborate. Curious as to what your attempting to say.
As a programmer, you know shit about AI, ChatGPT is basically google search with a prompt, not actual AI
Stay in your lane
Thank you for this video! It has clarified a few of my thoughts on pursuing A.I. and machine learning by learning coding. I'm a beginner now set on wholeheartedly pursuing this path, so I can hopefully understand or combat A.I. when it inevitably becomes too dangerous.
I just found you today and your awesome, I may have failed my computer science course but it awesome to see someone who sees the things I do.
I'd love to hear more about how to adapt to this change and keep a career going. I just started learning and the plan was to support my family with software engineering and get us out of poverty....this is very scary news.
🤣 wow that sucks dude...
@@ricya1982Bro you are laughing? The hell is a hot place btw!
Dude don’t worry it’s just a phase. I’m not into tech I’m more of a Rural Manager but I want to say that with the coming of each tech humans lives had evolved better! Don’t worry life is beautiful and remember WHILE THERE IS LIFE THERE IS HOPE❤
Lmao there is no adapting. You are waaaaaaaay too late if you are just starting now
@@IntellectualNPCtoo late for what?...
To all of you panicking about this video -
1) DO NOT PANIC, she is doing what thousands of people in her position do in times like these.
PROFIT FROM MASS PANIC
She has countless affilate links and streams of income from you guys clicking on this and freaking out
2) If you care about something deeply, pursue it, and earn it.
3) Your CS degree will not be obsolete, countless employers across industries and industries need and will seek you.
I became a self-taught professional software engineer at 22 without a degree in 2022.
Do not give up and buy into YT lies from people profiting. Do not do it.
People who think CS degree become obsolete are dumb !
@@tonyhtran .NET and C# with some front end web dev HTML and CSS
That’s it, gold’s being spoken here
If you fear AI just learn it and be good at it
Shhhhhhhh... don't tell them that... more jobs for us😅
@@DJ-xp9bsI heard that 😝 and will start my Computer science with specialization in AI and machine learning 😂
I love the convo happening in the photo and illustrative arts. It’s a convo that’s been happening for about five decades. The idea of “active hand.” Or the idea that if you tell another person or a team of people how to construct an installation or a painting (as an example) is that that person’s art? The short answer is yes, but the long answer is yes … but.
Since I’m a photographer that became a data scientist. I totally see the usefulness of AI/ChatGPT/etc. But I also see the need of an “active hand.” I see the usefulness of a coder and artist who knows why they painted a stroke here and wrote a line of code there. I see the usefulness of … unique style. And I can’t wait to see how creative humans and even advance AI create their work.
Hey Tina, I really enjoy your videos and your 'study with me' lives... the playlist. I really value you opinion and would really appreciate you making a video on how to adapt to the big changes in the tech industry.
Great video!! I definitely agree that it is scary how fast companies are adapting and developing AI technology. I would be interested in seeing another video about more ways to diversify and adapt to changes that are coming
Absolutely!
Second that, now we know for sure something is going to happen to my job and we have to find ways to adopt ourselves into this
Facts, I've got a data science interview coming up and now I'm wondering if it's even worth it for the future.
Next video: "Why I was wrong about Chat GPT".
Software development has always teethered on the brink of existence because of the possibility of universal solutions that will satisfy all the requirements, you knew that before you got into it. Yet somehow in the past it has always found a way to make more jobs.
I literally got a Computer Science major who like Data Science more and got Google Certification too. With how businesses work, we in the CS/IT field will have issues.
Is business data analytics worth it
@@aena5995it sounds very basic in terms of a computer/ai’s ability it would make analyzing a cinch. So either aid you immensely or train a manager how to use it’ll the tech. HOWEVER your advantage could be the tech and lack of use initially. Could do lots of companies under your one eye using the tech make as much as you can buy real estate and watch the world burn 🔥😂😂😂😮
It's 100% game over for all devs, everybody knows this but they don't want to give up their lifestyle. Those people already are ''nerdy'' most of them only found love and women because of their money now it's gonna be so bad the literal beta guys (nothing wrong with that) are going to be left with nobody and nothing, pretty sad, I hope mass shooting won't increase as AI will take millions of jobs, this will 100000% happen if we don't destroy and forbid AI like we did drugs.
@@revoltoff is it worth studying business data analytics bachelor's will it become automated data science ?
@@aena5995 Yes it will become 95% fully automated, not worth it. Like I said because materials are high you are best off learning a trade like construction, plumbing as this is not efficient to replace with AI construction robots.
I'm just starting to learn about data science. the ending part really just hits me, yeah we definitely should have control over our own employability.
Great breakdown Tina. Yes please, I would like to see more videos on diversifying and taking control of our own careers.
This video I think is the one we need right now to act on our careers, and we also must not believe in everything GPT gives us as here 10:39, I think we all need to verify everything GPT gives us and keep upskilling and focus more on how to use GPT effectively and also give the market some time to adapt to the new working order. Of course, the last part on working multiple jobs is interesting too, thanks a lot for the insightful video 🙂
14:35 "In some ways, now is probably the best time that you should be learning how to code so that you can better understand how to use these models that are coming out. Take advantage of everything that's happening right now. You want to be someone that has agency and make choices yourself."
That is priceless advice. Advice which I need to better understand and to apply it in a meaningful way. In a very short time, ChatGPT, as a coding discovery tool, has moved me from a stumbling hobby coder to a coder who is planning with agency and with direction in mind. I am worried that there may be a move to stop or to impede generative AIs due to their data collection. I completely understand that desire. My hope is that generative AI models/tools will not be made inaccessible to lay people/tech Neanderthals as like me. Make them safer, yet let us not throw them out. They are a benefit on so many levels. Thank you Tina for making exceptionally meaningful and inspiring vids.
i recently really became dedicated to learning code, and then all these news come out about AI advancing and whatnot. Her comment at that point in the video really re-assured me in the fact, that my efforts wont be wasted. If anything, i will learn coding, and eventually go into researching AI and maybe working on developing it or something
AI is taking over everything but now it's the time to take control? So we are back to coping.! Isn't the whole idea that we are going to be completely overpowered?? Isn't that the main idea of AI influencing the economy?
Well, i just tried building my own model from scratch with gpt-4, without any prior knowledge in ml or ai, but i did know python (chat-gpt can help u understand it tbh, its just that i didn't need to). The evals came out pretty decent on a smaller dataset, rn going with a larger dataset. I researched using the bing ai for my use case and found a paper, a dataset from kaggle and fed that to chat-gpt volla, m ready with the model, and this is just the beginning and only trained till 2021 and i feel a lot has changed in the past couple of months that would completely change the aspects of newer ai.
This is the 1st vid from you I've watched and it was great. Love @5:12 your reaction - hilarious. I'm a Sr. PM in Japan. A few comments - in the 90s, we were told that off-shoring was a way for us to focus on "higher level" work (I know this sounds cringey now) so don't worry. That was a sort of human disruption, and you can see how disruptive that has been to the US workforce. Then google translate came out and my translator friends were in complete denial. Like translation, I don't know that any dev roles will be 100% obsolete, but you just won't need many of them and the lower end work gets taken out. So you end up with even less people in solid paying roles and potentially more wealth inequality. The B2B discussion right now is "how do we keep our proprietary data and IP AND incorporate generative".
I really feel like a new job that will pop up in the future is that of AI Fact Checker.
In other news, I’ve been learning how to code since 2021, and I’ve developed and maintain a website for a non-profit organization. Before the AI boom, however, I started getting interested in data analysis and database development, and I recently got a job doing qualitative data analysis for a project at a university where I’ll be reading transcripts of interviews and coding them (different type of coding…qualitative coding is actually more like tagging) using a QDA software, then connecting all that to a database to make the interviews more easily searchable.
While I may not be doing much in the way of programming, I’ll be getting experience with technologies and processes that will apply to what I want to do, and if I get into AI and ML, this experience will definitely apply to those fields!
I’m overall so excited for my future!
2-3 years you will be obsolete, sadly...
@@revoltoff Yep, probably! That’s why I gotta get money and experience while I can along with experience using AI, so I can be the one setting up data-driven internal AI systems for clients in the future.
@@revoltoffno lmfao
I'm getting my Master's in Data Science this year and recently got into a small company as a Data Science Associate. I also do tech repairs as a hobby. I guess whatever happens happens
You rock! So imformative, your videos are one of the reasons im learning Python for the first time. Idk how this will shape tech jobs but im excited to see
Who would have guessed, that information and cybersecurity would be the safest IT field 😅
cloud,machine learning,robotics....
@@keshudana4647 all Data Analysis and big data. Quality Assurance engineers possibly 😏
@@keshudana4647 data science?
@@619ry7 yeah I call it all Big Data e.g. data science, engineering, database development etc.
@studying221 no lol nothing done digitally is safe from AI
my greatest conecern is that ai is making learning, reading, understanding something that people avoid at all costs. people are using it in place of their own brains and ignoring the fact that the only way to achieve certain things, like learning and changing, are throug experiencing in iving things.
- everybody needs to learn AND get good math to be able do to and undersand even simple things
- with calculators, numeric math would be a question of graping the tools and not the knowledge
- with more logical tools, like PERSONAL computers, anybody can pretty good job at small business level, something that where almost impossible with just callculators and no formal education
- with 1 week, any internet, free time and avaliability, you can now do a job that, not long ago, only accountants, only BBA, only teatcher, etc etc. would be able to condifendlty and eficiently tackle. (as most jobs require a fraction of what you need in grad at daily basis)
- now what? creativity? logical thinking? problem solving? most of those are efortlessly and more eficiently solved by a LANGUADE MODEL, not and specific AI that deals with a field but something that basicaly predics WORDS with NO real world context, do a large portion of the job.
GPT4 is a powerful tool but using it wisely can be tough. I tried to use ChatGPT for my project. However, I had difficulty making a function including my existing functions even though the function only has 5 lines of code. Because communicating with ChatGPT was so expensive, it made more sense for me to write the code myself.
Fax, especially for my intro level cs course. The kids on the discord were basically crying because GPT-4 can't solve abstract and specific problems/queries.
That is where you use GPT3. It still makes the job done. I only use GPT4 tokens for problems that I truly cannot solve.
context is small as of now so it's kinda not fun. let's just wait
The problem is not GPT3 or GPT4, It is the GPT5 and GPT6. 😂
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Just found your channel and I really like your style!
Definitely make another video regarding diversifying ur life, career, etc on all of that I need to know!! I just feel so overwhelmed especially bc I’m at that age to choose a career n idk what to do I feel like there almost no point anymore and I feel like wtv I do choose can be taken over within 2-3 yrs my biggest fear is not being able to financially support myself and find a good career
Suddenly people realized that replacing blue collar workers is harder than white collar. Currently the software is easier to produce than the hardware
I work in tech, but I'm not a programmer. AI helps me a lot with 70% of my tasks already, and I think it's the same for probably 50+ others in this company with around ~200 people. I don't think it can replace my entire team, but if there are ~20 of us now...I think it will be 3-4 people in a few years' time.
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yeah that sux man...
I highly doubt that unless your company/team is filled with idiots.
Totally agree with you. Thinking about how many of us move from sth like Lotus 1-2-3, to MS Excel, to maybe Pandas, BI, Data Science and now various Auto-ML, "AI" analytical tools. Sadly but perhaps the best way is to pull ourselves together and move on; the first MVP may be using all these "AIs" to help ourselves learn faster and better.
I'm happy you covered this topic and didn't go like "don't worry! AI won't take your job!" Because that sounds a little bit too optimistic. We don't know how it's going to affect jobs in the future, but we do know it's going to affect jobs in the future. I'm not a programmer, but I'm studying to be a language teacher, and honestly, I'm just as terrified as you.
There’s going to be new projects to work on. Tech always advances and we often times place ourselves into these inflexible boxes(ie React developer, etc). You’re computer scientists first and foremost everything else second. You should always assume this role because this field is about lifelong learning.
No not true, it will 100% be over for 90% of people coding right now in 2-3 years unless they ban AI like they do drugs etc. If you knew what the ppl at openai knew, they alrdy don't go to work. they're fully automated they need 0 staff cuz they also use AI of course, they just come together for the social aspect, GPT4 even can correct itself to 99% accuracy, the 1% lies it tells which is still A LOT will be adressed in GPT5 if they don't destroy that.
Doesn't matter if it destroys more projects than it creates. That means less jobs.
Genuinely happy to see another developer saying what I'm thinking. Every video I've seen lately in the dev-sphere have been people praising this and saying it's great, and developers won't be replaced because it generates bad code as if the last six months alone haven't been massive, massive increases in AI ability to do more than we ever imagined it could do. Clearly we can't imagine what it will do in another six months.
Whatever is going to happen, is going to happen. It doesn't matter what you think, and nobody knows for sure. She can me right or wrong.
Why stop at code generation tho, ai can write unit tests and iteratively revise the code, optimise the code until all the unit tests are passed, i mean it's definitely possible right. I think in a few months we will get to a point where all you need to do is a voice or text prompt to build something and it will do it just like that in seconds.
Well it was foreshadowed when companies were handing out $100k for bootcamp graduates.
@@rajadirajamama1767 Nothing is happening in a few months. It already takes a lot more than a few seconds to generate even slightly useful code. As they take transformer-based LLMs to the limit, compute power required will be dramatically increased. AI test-driven development is a neat trick, but it produces code that (hopefully) works, not necessarily well-designed or performant code. GPT-4 lacks the attention to build even a moderately simple app without structured prompting and iteration by a human.
@@stoogel Do you really want to compete with GTP-4 or Codex for a Google job NOW? Imagine the progress in just 5 years. Most junior dev jobs that your average Joe or Jane with a B.S. in CS or IT do will be obsolete in ten years or less.
I don't know if I should be terrified or glad as a person that just gained an interest for coding and is still at the very beginning
I have experienced chatgpt hallucination, when sometimes it invents functions that don't exist in a library, when I ask how to do something with a js library, then I always tell it that that is wrong and it apologies and corrects it
I loved how this video addressed the potential for AI-generated misinformation and the importance of diversifying one's income in the age of AI, Great video😍
Tina, this is one of the best and most honest videos I’ve seen on this topic. So well done! Let’s continue digging into this rabbit hole
I have that exact Ikea lamp in your background providing a light source for my desk right now
im a big fan of your humor, these clips in between were perfect
I'm legit becoming depressed. I don't know what to do. I make courses on AI, my thesis was about AI, but I haven't really worked in the field. And even so there's nothing that tells me that I'm going to be needed at all as a Software Engineer. I love the Job and I don't know what else to do. I do 3D stuff as a hobby. I'm not particularly good at it and obviously there is no need to try and become good. AI is there too. I might have to make an education for a manual laber Job, like an Electrician. Doesn't pay as much but enough to pay living but not to save, which means back to living paycheck to paycheck. I'll might be able to switch to robotics though. I can imagine building Robots will become the next big thing, because AI won't be limited to just use for your office Job.
But yeah I honestly don't know and I do feel that depression crawling back up, ngl
robotics a good career. why not start a micro-saas on the side? still a lot of opportunity and robotics is a good profession that imo would be accelerated by the growth of AI and made easier and funner in the next 5-10+ year (not competeley replaced). I can however see coding becoming more and moer of an AI management and a lot less job opportunity. A lot of different oppotunities are also brought in not just taken by AI! And remember bascially everyone whos a software engineer is in a similar position even the really smart successful ones! Just some perspective that might make you feel better!
@@siyamkesavaraj8891 yeah I think Robotics would be a good bet. It's not too far off my current field, though a lot to learn on the electrotechnical side. I do know vector maths thanks to Hobby Gamedevelopment and know how chained axis work due to rigging in blender. So I guess I bring along some other skills needed. Robots also want to be repaired. That probably still requires Human Hands for a long time. Probably my best bet
Hello dear Tina,
I have been following you for somthing like 2 years and you truly never disappoint with your videos! Thank you very much for addressing this issue that is kinda overlooked by majority of people. ❤
Can't say about data science but for web/mobile/desktop apps development...
Better Multi modal AI models + Solid No Code
UI ( for eg : Think of dynamic figma wireframes for frontend ) will eventually replace or minimize to a good extent the dependencies
on languages coming 1-2 yrs.
Nice video! Love your channel!!! Thank you! 👍
Me: Tell me you can't engineer software without telling me you can't engineer software
You: ChatGpT WiLl rEpLacE pRoGramMeRs
It will absolutely replace software engineering. Source: I am a staff software engineer at FAANG
Tina thank you so much for making an objective video on AI rather than a copium fest or get rich quick scheme like 99% of other AI videos. I'm tired from working a long day but I'll write a bigger response later hopefully you'll read it . Seriously, much respect for stepping out there and being real instead of all the copium vids from professionals.
really opened my eyes to the potential of AI and how it could change the job market in the future. It's both exciting and terrifying, but I'm glad to join this era 😘
Congratulations for 500k 🎉
Excellent work Tina!! Keep knocking it out of the park -- no matter what you do, it will be more than worthwhile and great!!! 👍👍 😉
One thing in the Software Engineering space that even GPT-4 can not do though, is generate large applications. Sure it can build me an app with a few 100 lines of code but it can't generate me a codebase that has millions of lines of code. It still requires human intervention to put larger applications together.
Although I am all for it that creating and deploying a large application to Azure is just me having a nice chat with an artificial intelligence system which does the rest for me.
Exactly, nor very much anything else useful either. This AI hype is merely for pumping air into share prices of AI companies. AI will never be reliably useful in any larger domain - its strength is in automating repetitive logic work on narrow, pre-defined domain.
ChatGPT is praised for "composing" texts which could mostly be found by Google search (whose own AI has actually gone way worse than it used to be..), yet no AI evangelist wants to even hint that in most of any useful questions you can't get answer by Google search, ChatGPT fails miserably.
Frankly said, AI chatbot Eliza, developed in 60's, is far more impressive for me.
Great video! I wanted to ask about more research oriented jobs like being a part of a research division in industry or academia-how do you think they might change over time because of AI
I think it’s pretty easy to replace most of the mundane writing and data entry roles..it’s just a lot of academia is slow to new technology
@@SuperAwesomedude20 yeah that makes sense, all the grunt work can be done by AI but do you think that the more active parts of research like planning experiments/doing theory work could be done by AI?
@@mosya7485 you know some of the early stages of experimental design like what to look at or not to look at it and other Preliminary research, no (for a while) . But everything from data analysis, creating visualizations, writing abstracts, and even conclusions can all be replaced (at least the graduate students/ undergrad researcher roles). Id argue you probably need supervisors but even now i don't see why nearly 90 percent of it can't be replaced
A really good video. Well done! You really walk the extra mile for us viewers. Thank you!
Thanks for this important video, Tina. Great insights
I don't think it will replace programmers entirely, but it will impact the number of software developers an employer wants to hire. For example, when it used to take ten programmers to write a project, now it only needs four or five because of ai. So that is a demand reduction. But then, new jobs will be created once a new technology comes along. Just like when the internet first came out.
No it will only take one person that's it, maybe 2 if you want to play it safe, talking about projects that used to take 100 people .
Most jobs will still be intact. However, their JD would most likely change. Instead of hiring developers to develop products, we now need developers to integrate products. This area is still untouchable by AI. GPT4 is excellent at “remembering” it’s training data, but it is still weak to tasks that are new/wrapped in a different way. But this could change in another few iterations of GPT though
That's what she's saying. Instead of hiring 3 software engineers, companies will only hire 1, ergo, 2 people will be out of a job
Awesome video, I think you definitely get it. Many people see it as a novelty and some people even see it as a dumb model with no real "intelligence". I literally saw someone on LinkedIn argue that it was just machine learning and nothing more, which seemed to miss the emergent properties of these large language models. They aren't that fundamentally different from standard deep learning models until you see what they can do.
I'd love to see more content from you around how you think this might disrupt the world and what that might look like.
One prediction I see is the rise of lean organisations. I work in a tech company with over 10k employees. I'm a product manager (with a data science and analytics background) and work with two engineering teams, totally around 12 or so developers, two designers and one content writer.
There is a lot of overhead just getting people on the same page and figuring out what other teams are doing and how that impacts us / how we impact them.
I can see companies use AI to enable low code development and have more technically savvy PMs build with designers and fewer technical people. I can then see the top engineering talent making sure that the code we generate with AI is refactored and architected such that the application scales and the code base doesn't inherit too much debt. So, there's be a distinction between building new features to test and learn and refactoring releases so the code doesn't become a complete mess. All of this would leverage AI and the human beings would seem like magicians compared to what we are now given how much AI will be able to take on.
But I also see this environment favouring people with more technical backgrounds as there would be a lot more direct execution and less emphasis on communicating to large stakeholder groups as the org structures wouldn't require it.
enjoyed your video. thanks!
Very insightful and thought-provoking video Tina. You clearly did a lot of research and work for this video. A lot to consider . . . .
The misinformation thing is really interesting: I had it several times when I asked GPT4 some rust-related coding questions, and it told me obviously wrong things with a confidence that is unbelivable!
"it told me obviously wrong things with a confidence that is unbelivable"- and this is the biggest risk humanity is facing with this technology and honestly this far nobody has came up with a viable idea of solving this issue. So why try to rush things making the matters even worse than they already are?
Better prompts and you need to let gpt4 learn more about itself, it can self heal and self learn to a level which it will achomplish 99.9% of coding.
Thank you for making this :)
congratulations on 500k💃
I feel like with there’s going to be laws put in place dealing with the ethics of AI, especially with how fast it is developing.
Tina mentioned this. If they even do, we probably won't get any regulations until at least 10 years from now
Not a chance regulation would work, people can create their own AI on their own computers.
What kinda laws? That a corporate gotta spend money on more humans and force corporate to hire thousands of humans against company needs? Highly unlikely
@@raghuveer4552yeah that's capitalism nothing you can do about that. Basically would be like a welfare program at that point telling companies they have to use slower less profitable and less productive humans to keep them in the job 😂
If you're a software engineer that thinks AI will replace your job, you are probably not a good software engineer (yet), and you should probably hit the books. The AI models (like chatGPT) are very useful at solving problems that have already been solved with tools that have already been used. That's as far as it goes, though (atleast for now). These AI models cannot create complex problems themselves, cannot think of a way to solve them themselves. This alone is a big job oppurtunity for good programmers. AI cannot write a good documentation, it cannot optimize it's code to be as readable is possible, while keeping it as optimized as possible. It cannot solve all operational problems, it cannot think of new workflows. It can analyze uncertain data, but it cannot be suspicious of it. AI cannot think of new software architectures, it cannot think of a better infrastructure. These are all things that a good programmer can do. Why? Because the core of all these things that a good programmer is the idea. AI cannot think of new ideas for improvement that only work for your application, for your infrastructure... for your life. It can only work with things that have already been thought of. The idea is clouded in mystery, AI does not like mysteries, it cannot handle them. Above all however AI CANNOT DETERMINE IF A PROBLEM NEEDS TO BE SOLVED OR NOT! Not all problems need to be solved, and that is the key difference between a good software engineer and a great software engineer - the ability to determine if a problem needs to be solved or not. Not all problems need/have to be solved. That is a key lesson not just in software engineering, but in life and I just recently realized that. So if you're being anxious about this, no need to be. Focus on the things that make a good programmer.
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@@YeetYeetYe In what way :D ? Most engineers are coping that they're going to become useless, I am not one of them. What I am saying is the exact opposite :D Maybe it's because I actually have experience with AI and software engineering? Hmm... I wonder.
@@davidgeorgiev5751 copium
People think AI is some magical thing and that it will just know everything because AI. Really they are just fucking idiots.
@@HonsHonwhy u mean
Great take. The ending conclusion about taking general preemptive concrete measures, and be knowledgeable amid the AI disruptive wave was spot on.
To mitigate and spreading the risk, and not being dependent of one source of income is paramount now. Maybe start being a generalist per se, and row with the wave as best we can. Try to understand the tech, and to utilize AI to your benefit. Ie, maybe becoming an entrepreneur in some shape or form. Try our hand at making a "product" or "service" with the skills we have on hand and utilize AI.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Big upgrade on the camera and lighting!!! Did AI do it?
No you did 🤩
as an artist I am terrified of loosing my job, a lot of ai models grab art without consent and it learns from it and now people commission me less for work, or ask me to help build models
just take a udemy course!
on how to survive when youre homeless.
and hey... dont forget to have fun! ;)
Excellent sense of the topic and train of thought.
Great video Tina. Certainly puts my mind at ease.
Thanks for the video
I also agree with your conclusions.
I don't think that the existence of AI is a bad thing inf fact I'm actually really proud of these people who figured out how to create an intelligence that can compete with our own. The problem is how much companies are adopting these early AI and are trusting it to do everything for them and do not seem to want to challenge and question it.
With your statement on being knowledgeable with technical things being an asset within this situation is actually a good idea.
I also found this and I think you will like it
czcams.com/video/ZA9K0JMrbWg/video.html
The hallucination problem really makes it a lot less useful. On the other hand, talking to humans is not much more reliable.
i died when you tossed in the Steven He clip
Thanks so much Tina!, I've watched several ChatGPT videos but it was your video that forced me to acknowledge ChatGPT. I almost lost the edge even though my thirteen-year old son has been using ChatGPT-4 to code some pretty advanced stateful adventure games...it almost blew right past me. It was the other professions (deniers) you introduced that were outside software development that woke me up. I have 15+ years developing (coding) systems for High-Frequency Trading and Mega-Bank Systems but was ignoring the elephant (now obviously thanks to your video I must figure out how to wrangle it to my bidding...ie understand how to prompt it to do the non-proprietary coding and focus more on idea creation).
2-3 years it's game over for you almost 100% unless they destroy/ban AI like they do drugs.
AI has scared me from the start. There are few products and services that can't eventually be replaced permanently with AI. This leads one to ask, "Why the big push to eliminate jobs?" As a daughter of a programmer, I wonder if programmers should be working on ways to circumvent this inevitability. I can't help but think we all should see the writing on the wall. Someone needs to come up with a kill-switch, so to speak.
not a kill-switch, more like being heavily regulated
all jobs replaced by AI and we riot until universal basic income is established.
yes we should
im guessing the government agencies will step in with their top tier programmers and control it as they do with crypto
Finally someone being honest about this matter, thank you
Tina, I think it goes without saying that the video on adaptability and how we should think about the future is important and based on how you have treated this subject here apart from other sources, I definitely want to hear your findings
Hi Tina, loved this video! Thanks for the honest view. You can really tell that you're passionate about this (just like me 😃)
You asked for some recommendations and I think I do have a couple of must watchs for you. They are all about the aspect of AI safety, an issue that is, just like hallucinations, not at all solved yet. What is basically comes down to is that any AI, if it just gets smart enough will, inadvertently, become dangerous.
My favorite videos on this topic is the stuff that computerphile did together with Rob Miles. His own CZcams channel is also amazing.
People are scared to admit the fact that most of the tech jobs will probably be replaced by AI.
I don't believe A.I will replace the career I'm chasing. They can't automate cybersecurity. The is always a new way to break the system .
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance = you are in phase 1
AI will create trackers, firewalls etc...:) Be frank with yourself until its too late. Get a trade AI will not be able to replace.
Excellent points! I've been trying to leverage AI to open a side business and get some freelancing. I would love to hear more about your thoughts; as you said, we are shifting to a higher level of abstraction and learning how to generate prompts and reason on top of the AI output. In your opinion, what could be the next step for senior software engineers on this new path?
Thanks again for the lovely and sincere video ❤
This was the 2nd video of yours I saw, I have now subscribed. Have a great day
of course Tina wants programmers replaced, she was dating one and got dumped
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When i read these comments about "diversifying your income" i just feel like these people are talking out of their behinds. What do you suggest how to do that reliably? Not everyone can become a youtuber, or have a super banging income pumping blog and all these alternative dynamic income stream. Thats neither realistic by creative skills, meaning even if there is a formula some people just arent the type for it, nor is it feasible the same way that "everybody can become rich, but not everyone can be rich". If the answer is just, "git gud" - basically everyone just has to be 15 times better than before, in 3 more unrelated areas of prior expertise, to become some swiss army knife consultant. Well, then i think the answer is simply that this going to really wreck our social systems and economy. The answer is that yes many people will be in big trouble, companies will continue to profit while large amounts of people are drowning in despair and possibly poverty, government unable to regulate this to prevent it from happening... and even if they would or could, in time, well then the same thing would happen we saw with outsourcing before: Companies just would get the AI-based labor they need from countries where it is not regulated. This is a really, really big problem. Not tomorrow, but in 5 years this will start to be a reaaaal shit show. My entire career is based on IT or CS and software dev, but i was sick for years and just recently picked up to finish my degree i started very late after doing IT schools and being in the industry. I feel like im super screwed and my only chance is to pivot into one of the less coding related fields like IT security etc. Which are all things i have not much interest in, so its hard to get good at it.
I once went to an old office building. on Wilshire, tall, maybe a skyscraper to meet with the owner of my ISP. The elevator was manually operated, but the operator was nowhere to be found. So I just drove it to the floor I needed to go and then realized that I had no way to get it back to the operator. So I drove it back down only to meet with somebody very irate. All the offices were filled with cages full of computers, people seemed to be selling connectivity to each other, landlord was providing space and very importantly air conditioning. They had automated the office worker out of that building. The only job they had not automated, was that of the elevator operator (who maybe needed to give a few rides a week) . I found that very funny. .
You are a really cool person! Subscribed! Hi from a fellow software engineer thinking exactly the same thing you are right now!
I was thinking the same with regards to standard run of the mill programming. This career in many ways will shift to what I call software integration management. Basically, as you stated in your video - making sure the generated code and test use cases are monitored and integrated into the main code base in a way that makes sense for the stakeholders. Great video! Very well crafted. I'm guessing that CZcams's content creators would be spared from this impending AI takeover of jobs.
This week I became a construction worker. Data and information jobs like white collar jobs are much easier to automate than blue collar jobs like plumbers, carpenters, electricians, painters etc. That's why I decided to pick a career that will be one of the last to get automated. I can only hope politicians will soon enough implement a UBI to prevent mass homelessness and poverty as a result of this AI revolution.
That’s like a two year gap. The last jobs to be automated will be those who are making AI/maintaining them
If you take a look at robotics in just March alone, it’s clear that it is not much further from most white collar work unfortunately
Construction workers are secure for many years, especially with fixing existing structures.
@@raybod1775 Be cautious not to underestimate the speed of technological growth right now
If the problem can be broken down into simple steps it can be automated. And it’s a problem someone is going to make trillions with when they solve (so there is a fervent desire to accomplish it, and I have seen research as recent as yesterday that tells me we are close. Like literally 2 years or even months from now close, depending on deployment and funding)
You better be still learning computation even as a construction worker. Haven't you heard of knock-on wage effects? Plus, don't be a quitter for stupid reasons.
Only Europe and China? America loves profit-as soon as they figure out that they’ll make more money hiring a robot than they would a person, manual jobs for humans will go away.
I compare this to how low code has impacted a lot of enterprise systems. Salesforce, for example, has really increased the ability of its flow tool, which has reduced the need for custom code. Now custom code requirements still exist, but as more specialized needs. So developers will use AI for standard services and will need to write to handle special needs and connect them. Just my opinion!
Your worry about false information spreading like wildfire coming from AI generator images, voice, videos, text... resonates with me. It's something I have also been thinking about and curious how we as society is going to handle this.
GBT has been helping me learn coding faster. It’s like having a rudimentary tutor that can help you get the example down and help you understand the principles. I think we are in a stage we’re AI can help you accelerate your skill set rather than steal your job
It can help you learn coding faster, because its writing the code for you - I am a 30 year programmer - moved with the times - learned multiple new coding or interfaces - I am now moving into Finance - become useful by understanding both Subject matter expert and AI code correction - I extend my usefulness to retirement age - that being between 5-10 years from now - I am way too old to keep up by getting my head around a whole new field - but that's enough for me - if you wish to use AI use it for an AI related career - traditional coding is going to be wiped out by AI
I am pursuing AI and Robotics, and the world is scary, I study with professors who are constantly involved in developing (stuff) which are so revolutionary that it even scares them sometimes. I'll leave you with one thought that scares me the most, you know how people always develop or invent new or different things, yeah we're not gonna gonna do this anymore, because ai is already so advanced and has so much knowledge that they could develop themselves more and better than what we could have done. This either might seem very intuitive or very vague based on where you're coming from, but allow me to explain one of my chat prompts. So, I, as a curious computer science fella, was trying to check the limits of chatgpt, and uh.....yeah what I found might not seem dangerous, but since I am in this industry I'll try to explain how it could be. I asked how can I use gpt-4 (to gpt 3.5), and it replied and I quote "As of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, GPT-4 does not exist yet. However, if it is released in the future, you can use it in a similar way to how you would use GPT-3, which is currently the most advanced version of the GPT series.
To use GPT-3, you would need to have access to its API, which is currently available through OpenAl. You can sign up for access on the OpenAl website and then follow the instructions to set up your API key."
Now, this might seem normal or just fine to most people, but I am gonna explain. it says as of my knowledge is cutoff in September 2021, which means it knows that. It is conscious, think about it, how would you know if you're knowledge is cutoff or not. Then it continues to say that GPT-4 is not released yet, which means it is gonna be released or maybe it is pretending to not know. Yeah, hear me out, I think it has all the access to all the information about current world, it is just pretending to not know because it is told to do. Every now and then when you get a vague response, you're like okay this is misinterpreted, but it might be just because it is trying to manipulate that it doesn't know anything about the current world (while it actually does). Think of it is not hard to access internet for it. If you're talking about key and API's; well this ai can build and break anything. So, it is capable enough to access anything, why do you think it is limited till September 2021? Spoiler alert it's not. I have the picture of the prompt and response. I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this though.
Such an interesting video, and you raised a lot of great points! Love what you’re talking about, I just wish that I was able to accommodate a bit more of the way that you speak without pauses between sentences, it was very hard to listen to for me personally. I felt very rushed. I say that because I really like what you did and perhaps one day CZcams will have an AI function that can customize speech tone / speed / pitch. Anyway, I hope you didn’t take it the wrong way, love what you do and I hope to come back sometime. 🙏🏻
Really interesting and simultaneously exciting and disconcerting reflection on the current fast paced status quo. Personally I have a positive outlook on this. From working wity and managing developers in the past I used to find it immensely difficult to deal with the personality driven approaches to problem solving. And yes it is great to have the human aspect and creativity when it comes to emotionally and qualitatively driven projects but for when you want to be able to rely on high stakes outcomes, non personal/ego/lack of knowledge driven solutions and certainty I feel ai is the way to go over coders.