2017 Personality 12: Heidegger, Binswanger, Boss (Phenomenology)

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  • In this lecture, 12th in the 2017 series, I discuss the Heidegger's phenomenological philosophy of Being, interpreted through the eyes of the psychotherapists Ludwig Binswanger and Medard Boss. The phenomenologists were attempting to to reduce the painful separation between object and subject that has as one of its consequence the elimination of meaning from existence.
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Komentáře • 583

  • @t1mman
    @t1mman Před 3 lety +82

    "The art is beyond what is articulable, otherwise it's just propaganda"
    Mind blown once again! Thank you Dr. Peterson!

  • @VincentVSD
    @VincentVSD Před 7 lety +235

    even if you've remove the applause from the videos I keep aplauding in front of my screen

    • @HelloThere.....
      @HelloThere..... Před 3 lety +1

      You mean you do it at the ends of the videos? Or throughout them?

    • @nephante8157
      @nephante8157 Před 3 lety +3

      I'm just saying Amen every 5-10 minutes XD (Amen is derived from the Hebrew āmēn, which means “certainty,” “truth,” and “verily.)

    • @benparks1182
      @benparks1182 Před rokem

      Crap, I'm gonna have to start clapping in public now when the video ends! 😅

  • @daniellucas2968
    @daniellucas2968 Před 2 lety +104

    I'm watching this again for the first time in a couple years. I've decided I'll have to come back to these lectures periodically, probably for the rest of my life. There's so much I can understand in this lecture now that I completely missed the first time.
    Edit: Five minutes after I wrote this comment, Peterson says, "Every time you look at it, you're different." lol, exactly.

    • @siddhantparikh3260
      @siddhantparikh3260 Před rokem +4

      Dude. Same here. I went through Maps of Meaning for the second time, and after that, here I am, going through this series, too, once again. And I intend on going through these series again and again as I build up my knowledge of Humanities across the next few decades.

    • @dimitriosfromgreece4227
      @dimitriosfromgreece4227 Před 8 měsíci

      Yes yes 100% ❤️

    • @resurrectingexcellence
      @resurrectingexcellence Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@siddhantparikh3260I've lost count how many times I've watched maps of meaning from start to finish at this point, maybe 5+ times? 😂

  • @ichiniize
    @ichiniize Před 7 lety +767

    free classes from 1 of the best lecturer in western hemisphere, what more could anyone asked for ❔ this is gold ❗ ☑ 🎯 🔘

    • @VladimirPutin-cd4cl
      @VladimirPutin-cd4cl Před 7 lety +4

      I don't think his a good lecturer. He gets seriously on my nerves -- this performance, I mean.
      I would much prefer if he just read the main points from a paper in a neutral tone and leave off all that irritating "passion". It would take much less time and much less emotions. I can't help thinking that people like you are not for the content but the performance and the charisma.

    • @BenWeeks-ca
      @BenWeeks-ca Před 7 lety +49

      Fortunately you can extract Close Captions and have a dreary robot voice read Peterson's words back to you if you wish. That you are irritated with human emotional tonality, performance, charisma perhaps suggests more about you than it does about him. As for your worry about dealing with the troubles of capitalism, most of us in the west deal with those every day and so are familiar.
      You may like to consider Peterson's book list which recommends "Road to Wigan Pier" by George Orwell. It looks at how brutal the lives of poor coal miners in the North of England were. So very much a criticism of elements of capitalism. Orwell was placed under surveillance as a result of his research because he was viewed as a leftist radical by authorities. The book also criticizes the left which often hates the rich more than it loves the poor.

    • @BenWeeks-ca
      @BenWeeks-ca Před 7 lety +2

      Jesper Jansen: The form and content are both flawed with your statement. Probably you're joking somehow and I don't get it.

    • @VladimirPutin-cd4cl
      @VladimirPutin-cd4cl Před 7 lety +2

      But that made perfect sense, even though I am afraid his humanity somewhat shines through also in his written texts. As for the accusation of me being a heretic amongst fans, cult-followers and true-believers -not to mention all the libertarian-type fruitcakes around here (though here kufar should be the preferred term)- it's correct; and as for the offensive tone (form), who cares (and it was a joke)?

    • @ichiniize
      @ichiniize Před 7 lety +3

      Nobody's Perfect guess every1 has their own 'opinion' 😁 ❕if it's 🆗 with you, may u share/tell me your fav lecturer ❔

  • @pedroaguirre258
    @pedroaguirre258 Před 6 lety +103

    8:32 that sound effect! this man is the complete combo.

    • @TheSpiritBolt
      @TheSpiritBolt Před 6 lety +2

      Shalom&FuckOff! Fucking wizard.

    • @nephante8157
      @nephante8157 Před 3 lety +2

      Or... maybe he have kids which he have to entertain sometime somewhat ;)

    • @harkyo
      @harkyo Před 2 lety +1

      @@nephante8157 he has raised a son and daughter to adulthood and he is a grandfather, now.

  • @nordion84
    @nordion84 Před 7 lety +245

    "[Artists] are going out into the unknown and representing it imaginably. So what does that painting mean? Well, if the artists knew that he'd just write it down. The art is beyond what is articulable; otherwise it's just propaganda."
    Based Prof giving much respect for the artists who take chances peering over the edge.

    • @Aperdat
      @Aperdat Před 7 lety +1

      R.D. Laing..... "All art is political". Think possibly so?

    • @R34n1mated
      @R34n1mated Před 6 lety +6

      Would depend on what Laing exactly meant by, "political."

    • @prybarknives
      @prybarknives Před 5 lety +8

      No, only bad art.

    • @justinbooth9198
      @justinbooth9198 Před 4 lety +2

      Finally after hundreds of hours I can say there is a single statement of JP's that I can 100% say within my realm of specialty that he is indeed wrong with his presupposition of the artistic state and the attempt to quantify the unknown via image/icon/visual representation or else they would write it down (quantify). This is a strikingly one sided perception of this act of representation that appears by Jordans own argument to negate an alternate vantage point. The presupposition is wrong, and I believe this overarching structure he is speaking of that binds the known and the unknown can be quantified within the musical realm. ( that is the infinitely shorter version of what I would debate this statement on )

    • @MrTTnTT
      @MrTTnTT Před 4 lety +9

      ​@@justinbooth9198 As I understand you, you're arguing that the naturally procedural art of music (which until recently was inevitably performed, i.e. procedural, as well as deeply associated with ritual procedures) is the link more so than imagistic representation. I've made the same case, but I don't think Peterson would disagree. Going by the case he built in Maps of Meaning, he suggests that the the developmental pathway of ideas - presumably including our relationships to the unknown - start at the procedural level, then things are captured in the form of an episode, which can be retold, depicted and associated with other things, thereby modifying future procedures. The statement cited by the OP is in line with this. "Imaginably" isn't the same as imagistically. However, looking closer at what you write, you suggest the relationship can be quantified in music. Now, I understand quantifiable to mean something like "measure in terms of numbers". While math shines through in music in a myriad of ways, and music is (surprisingly often if there's no relationship) described as a matter of balancing known and unknown, I don't see how this can conquer the barrier that is how relating to the unknown is an individual affair that the artist - assuming the general theory is right - tries to solve for him/herself, in their own context. It seems to me that any way of quantifying it on the musical level is an exercise in the arbitrary, at least for now, but I'm curious to hear what you have in mind.
      If we imagine it in a two-layer-model (where the first layer is the format and the second is the kind of memory it builds on,
      where we should remember that associations are episodic in nature), Philosophy might be linguistic-linguistic, story might be linguistic-episodic, image might be episodic-episodic, direct imitation might be procedural-episodic, and music (and dance, which are actually naturally interlocked from what I've found, which is why it's difficult *not* to synchronize one's movement with the periods of music) would be something like ( traditionally communal, serving at least two functions which I can delve into if you wish) procedural-procedural. If this is at all appropriate, it would be very difficult to identify any concrete ideas in music. Image, on the other hand, is relatively close to the linguistic. But again, I'd love to hear what you have in mind.

  • @siddhantparikh3260
    @siddhantparikh3260 Před 3 lety +21

    "Clean up your room. That's a good place to start...stop." - This felt like a bitter and effective medicine, since I'm watching it online with a slightly disordered room. Nicely played, Dr. Peterson.

    • @zayed4675
      @zayed4675 Před rokem +1

      Nice freudian slip there ay. Matches perfectly.

  • @Ibroadcastmyself17
    @Ibroadcastmyself17 Před 6 lety +506

    "I think their ideas are extremely interesting, and so, im gonna talk about them"

    • @bobwilkinsonguitar6142
      @bobwilkinsonguitar6142 Před 5 lety +56

      This man has cultivated an insanely apt taste for the interesting

    • @jasonhamm3370
      @jasonhamm3370 Před 4 lety +13

      Aka just read philosophy

    • @fadhilfirjatullah8464
      @fadhilfirjatullah8464 Před 3 lety +4

      @@bobwilkinsonguitar6142 mc of both; hi;;; vmob information; him ; B; be bett; mbom by mistakeer by ; in MH bb how bmbb me; be;; mom; BN BN;;; be bbm obn jbbb by;bmbkboio Mbak in ; on Monday;;b

    • @VizionaryInSight
      @VizionaryInSight Před 3 lety +24

      -my family: *”... so anyways”*

    • @brendon3605
      @brendon3605 Před 2 lety +5

      Good ole uncle peterson

  • @anotherlover6954
    @anotherlover6954 Před 6 lety +44

    This video blew my mind several times over. I'm going to have to make a study of these lectures.

  • @LeBakalite
    @LeBakalite Před 5 lety +62

    Man, this one lecture was prticularly brilliant all the way through to the end.

  • @kathleenh3104
    @kathleenh3104 Před 7 lety +56

    Thank you so much for uploading these lectures. You have legitimately changed my life.

  • @kjellkuipers5810
    @kjellkuipers5810 Před 5 lety +41

    When I was depressed I had the same sort of dream over and over again. It was very confrontational and I hated it. Now I understand why I had that dream. Peterson's explanation of his dream really took me to town man. I will try to analyse it and learn from it. This man is a gift.

    • @nathanaelmorales760
      @nathanaelmorales760 Před 2 lety

      WhT was the dream? If you don’t mind me
      Askinh

    • @cindyj5522
      @cindyj5522 Před 9 měsíci

      His dream was about control and obliteration. He was a man experiencing some kind of personal disaster when he described this dream. He is not a gift...he is a monster who uses his intellect to twist reality. He is dark and insane and spreading his own damaged psyche as far and wide as he can.

    • @uma9948
      @uma9948 Před měsícem

      What does it means

    • @uma9948
      @uma9948 Před měsícem

      I have also been through the same situation.....

  • @jaybird6034
    @jaybird6034 Před 7 lety +47

    Jordan Peterson explaining his ayahusca trip to Graham Hancock on the Joe Rogan Podcast would be the absolute ultimate!!!!

  • @Fawnshell
    @Fawnshell Před 8 měsíci +3

    I’ve watched these lectures over and over and over again, the last 20 or so minutes is amazing

  • @TesterBoy
    @TesterBoy Před 2 lety +2

    Peterson’s lectures are always densely packed with ideas. He is a talking novel. I can imagine his lecture preparation is an hours-long mental workout.

  • @badeffinkittie
    @badeffinkittie Před 6 lety +8

    These lectures have changed my life. Thank you.

  • @user-ux5mo2ng2c
    @user-ux5mo2ng2c Před 3 lety +4

    33:13 jp about curiosity "it's the thing that you could be in the future calling you forward" goosebumps!

  • @pauljames9806
    @pauljames9806 Před 7 lety +20

    Thank you for the free lecture.

  • @zofiamazur8125
    @zofiamazur8125 Před 7 lety +17

    Very meaningful lecture. Thank you Professor Jordan B. Peterson.

  • @SpankoSaurusRex
    @SpankoSaurusRex Před 7 lety +44

    This is amazing. Youre becoming my new favourite intellectual rockstar, but youre also incredibly strong in discussing Heidegger.

  • @billOground
    @billOground Před 7 lety +527

    can someone please make a compilation video of that girl coming in late every bloody time?

    • @Jacob-sb3su
      @Jacob-sb3su Před 6 lety +3

      sean whalen when does she usually come in?

    • @creedddzz
      @creedddzz Před 6 lety +79

      I need this, if someone doesn't do it, I will. LOL

    • @rajab2852
      @rajab2852 Před 6 lety +21

      Brian Maiyo, I'm counting on you!

    • @makermarx8862
      @makermarx8862 Před 6 lety +15

      amazing how a thought comes into your mind, but you check the comments first because you know someone else will be slightly annoyed by "that girls" regular tardiness.

    • @meauxx
      @meauxx Před 6 lety +139

      She's late because she's cleaning her room all the time.

  • @marc6611
    @marc6611 Před 3 lety +6

    You altered my perspective of the world. I thank you every time I listen to the information you present. Thank you for your wealth of knowledge and presentation of it, please continue to provide content as honestly, it makes life better for me.

  • @nicolashuffman4312
    @nicolashuffman4312 Před 3 lety +5

    Coming from a background in science and engineering, the world of abstract thought always seemed like one of hand waving and supposition, hypothesizing without ever testing; a kingdom of the inept. I'm glad to find myself proven wrong on this. These ideas have merit, even if they are difficult to grasp from my perspective. And many of them are testable!

  • @StyleKrong
    @StyleKrong Před 5 lety +184

    17:24
    DM: "You enter a dark room."
    PC: "Can I see anything?"
    DM: "What's your passive perception?"
    PC: "There is no passive perception. JP says I gotta roll for it."
    DM: "Alright, roll."
    *20*
    PC: "What do I see?"
    DM: "You become aware that this world is nothing more than an intense mentally projected fantasy shared between several conscious beings within a common interval in time, and that within the projected fantasy alone, an infinite number of possibilities exist, multiplied by the infinite frames of reference present from each conscious being witnessing the session. Your character's intelligence score is too low to refocus on a single frame of reference, suffers a horrific internal mental trauma, and their head explodes. Roll a new character."

  • @saltpeter1396
    @saltpeter1396 Před 7 lety +92

    What a trip! I shall take this drug again!

    • @lukaskaufmann-laduc2732
      @lukaskaufmann-laduc2732 Před 5 lety +7

      I am watching this after a joint and agree. The way that he interprets Heidegger, and the archetypes he is able to put forward, because of this, is v fascinating.

  • @nageboorte
    @nageboorte Před 6 lety +10

    Thanks for the free education Dr. Peterson!

  • @godsonjohnson5549
    @godsonjohnson5549 Před 3 lety +2

    I thank you Dr. Peterson for your outpouring in this series of lectures. The Personality series of lectures have truly helped me to reflect, reaffirm and gain a more solid perspective on life and my surrounding circumstances dealing with other human beings. I live on a island that has varied culture and the community where I operate business is socially challenged. I am trying to make a meaningful impact here and your teachings have provided me with personal healing and much needed psychological tools to work with. This year, with your teachings, I hope to go about more calmly with my task. Thank you and the LORD my God forever bless and comfort you & Yours..

  • @LVXMagick
    @LVXMagick Před 5 lety +12

    I get so excited when oocult and alchemical topics are brought into these talks. It's funny how in one lecture he said the mystical writings of Jung are the most difficult to comprehend. For me it's the opposite. I understand his mystical writings far easier than the more clinical terminology and ideas in his earlier writings. I hope he will get heavier into Occult ideas. 😍

    • @smolbean5204
      @smolbean5204 Před 2 lety

      Ikr I think that our brains are just wired for this nature of thinking. Perhaps we all have a similar level of trait openness.

    • @user-qc7mx6oj2r
      @user-qc7mx6oj2r Před 4 měsíci

      So much of occult philosophy and psychology overlap because both Freud and Jung the great forefathers of modern day psychology were jews that studied kabbalah and brought a lot of those teachings into the groundwork of early psychology

  • @150tdaytoday7
    @150tdaytoday7 Před 3 lety +32

    From the phenomenological perspective you pursue those things that shine forth
    To study human beings as objects you need to take into account You still have to take into account they ensconce themselves within a value system and also People live within an ethic
    and the ethic structures and their perceptions
    people live within a self-defined perceptual world.
    To make a representation of a thing accurate It would have to be as detailed as the thing itself.
    [3:30]You're surrounded by an infinite number of potential things to apprehend But that isn't the world you live in The world you live in is a very very constrained subset of those
    things
    And part of the question is then
    1. What's the nature of that constrained subset? That's what you inhabit, that's what makes up your experience?
    2. How is it related to the infinitely complex objects that are around you?
    You're in this perceptual frame and
    It Contains all of the things you experience subjectively The emotions and the qualia[quality of the experience of something] it's the quality of pain which doesn't seem reducible to
    a set of objective facts Or the quality of color, or the quality of beauty, or the quality of love, or the quality of sorrow.These things sort of manifest themself as raw facts of
    existence and also are constituent elements of your field of experience.
    [5:26]Dasein[to be there] or Phenomenological Frame

    Its conceptualized as being in a place and with you at the center of Your realm of experience.
    Implicit Assumptions Of Phemenologist
    All the experience of the past events are implicit in the present event i.e past has shaped it [eg:- All of the times you've fought with your mother are implicit in this fight]
    [To investigate the fight/event completely You'd have to get to the bottom of that entire train of interactions you've had with your mother/person/about that kinds of experiences]
    and also the future is folded up in what you're experiencing right now and it unfolds as you interact with it.
    It's conditional to some degree on you and your past is because it's your past and you that are determining the actions that you undertake right now that determine how
    the future is going to unfold around you[Now completely obviously because you don't have complete control over how things unfold].
    ###[7:26] You don't see any material objects/events,you see the objects as portals through which you are going through different worlds/realities[you are going to have a different
    futures or different realities are going to happen because of the object/event being there/happening or not being there] and the object/events also contains the past because the
    attainment or not attainment of an object/event is going to determine how you in the present are going to remember/structure your past
    [A new past popes into being due to an event happening or not].
    #####Body Intelligence - Your body is more likely to respond to what the thing actually is, than how it is that you see it.
    ####The object that you're interacting with only reveals what it is as a consequence of the way that you interact with it.
    For Example:- If you take a complex object like another person,a huge part of that is going to depend on exactly how I interact with you{the person}
    you could be a raging beast if I interacted with you one way and you could be a perfect, you know, cooperative entity that was very pleasant if I interacted with you another way.
    ####If you're interacting with something that's really Truly multi-faceted{A Person.Computer}.The problem while trying to determine what it is. But the problem is that what it is
    manifests itself only in accordance with how you behave towards it.
    For Example:- Subatomic particles. Hypothetically, the most objective thing there is Well it turns out that whether they're a wave or a particle depends on the way you set up the
    experiment.
    ###To define and object scientifically you actually don't define the object. What you say is here is a multi-dimensional entity if you approach it in this manner,the procedure,
    The methods. If you approach it in that manner, it will manifest that set of traits i.e you adopt a frame of reference with regards to it and not others.
    the object itself is not something that is easily reducible to a single set of properties.
    For An Object/To a situation/ While reading a book or while seeing an painting every time you look at them you're different Every time you look at them you're different because You're
    bringing something entirely different to the situation and the image/object/experience/situation is complicated enough to allow it to reflect something new to you depending on the
    stance you take in relationship to it.
    ### [13:21]How you narrow down the objective world/reality into your subjectivity [narrow down your world from lets an infinite set of possibilities]
    1.By the way you interact with the objective world.
    2.As your senses aren't acute enough to detect everything and it stops you from being absolutely overwhelmed.
    3. In the space that you inhabit You have implicit in the perception a sense of where you are and what you are doing right now as well is what you're aiming at

    [15:56] How Your Perception reveal the world-
    You have an aim in mind and the aim is what you're pointing your eyes at, The aim is what's structuring your perceptions, The aim is what's revealing that part of the
    world that is being revealed to you to see.
    ###The Aim also structures your emotions. It also primes your behaviors. It's not a drive, it's not a goal it's not a motivation, it's more than that. It's all of that at once.
    Your entire act of perception is determined by your entire value structure.
    [19:34]Perception-
    ### What we perceive are "first and foremost" not impressions of taste, tone, smell or touch Not even in things or objects, but meanings.
    You are a multi-level object and you are interacting with the world at different levels and part of you is reflex and what you are doing is thinking and feeling about objects and bunch of other fast and slow things all at once.
    Your conscious mind is very slow to respond to fast objects/impulse or stimuli at an instant and thus first reacts and only then only perceives the information.
    You see in the world are meanings So you see the meaning detection first and the object recognition second.
    There is no object perception but only pattern perception.
    So the meaning is what's being perceived first and foremost and you have to perceive meanings first because you actually want to stay alive. So the world is full of
    these objects that have meanings to you that are relevant to your survival and what you're perceiving first is the relevance of the pattern to your survival.
    [23:45] The response to the object is implicit to the perception.[response to the object is part of the perception of the object It's what gives the object meaning].
    There's no perceiving entity without a structure But by the same token the thing that's being perceived Also shines forth with its own potential manifestation.
    [28:00]There's no perceiving entity without a structure But by the same token the thing that's being perceived Also shines forth with its own potential manifestation.
    [31:19] When you're curious about something, why are you curious about that? Is it calling to you? Or is it something that you're interpreting?It's both.
    Curiosity is like the manifestation of yourself to the ego. It's the thing that you could be in the future calling you forward.
    [34:49]You explore something new, What do you generate from the exploration? You. Because as you explore it you learn things. That changes you. So you generate psyche out of the exploration.
    That's spirit. And you also generate the world out of it But the thing to begin with is psyche and world at the same time.
    The potential that there is inside objects[eg:-Cell phone, birth control pill] When You make a object, you think you know what it is, you have no idea what it is And it's going to do
    some of the things you think it will do And it's going to do a bunch of things you have no idea about And that's because Things are more complex than they look They're multi-dimensional
    and they have an intrinsic complexity That tends to unfold across time And it's only somewhat predictable and so you have things under your
    control and in your grasp to some limited degree But at any point chaos can collapse/switch into order Or order can collapse into chaos/switch.
    [42:19]What do you have in front of you?
    A world of objects No, You have a world of potential in front of you And you can interact with any aspect of that potential And while you're doing so, you realize it You pull something
    into being that wouldn't have been there before And what you see in front of you is a wall of potential, The potential is not infinite because you're constrained But, it's still For
    all intents and purposes it will do you just fine it's more potential than you could ever need.
    [44:07]Dreams-
    Dreams are at the forefront of thinking They get there before you The creative imagination is at the forefront of thinking If you think that you're moving out into the unknown To
    gather new information What gets there first is the imagination.The dream and the imagination can bring you places that you don't even know that you can go.
    ###Part of the Dasein
    [45:38]The sense of responsibility that you have to address those problems It's part and parcel of the way that human beings manifest themselves in the world.So part of your pathology would
    be failure to bear the responsibility for your being And a sense that you have a debt to your existence.

  • @TansGauntlett
    @TansGauntlett Před 3 lety +1

    UTTERLY AND FANTASTICALLY FASCINATING TO REWATCH PETERSON LECTURES AGAIN AND AGAIN

  • @adamwhite1920
    @adamwhite1920 Před 5 lety +31

    The quote related to "Dasein” looks like two German words contracted into one: da (there) + sein (be) - to be there, which seems to fit the description perfectly. It's pronounced "dar-zine" where zine rhymes with wine.

    • @andreaskahn1731
      @andreaskahn1731 Před 3 lety +10

      German here. Your translation is literally right. Apart from Heidegger's definition Dasein is simply our word for being. The pronounciation is "dazine", no R in there. German pronounciation is pretty straight forward, unlike French or English :D

    • @siyaindagulag.
      @siyaindagulag. Před 3 lety +3

      A pair of etymologists in the comments section of this particular video. Wunderbar!!
      There is hope for us yet.

    • @kristineheier796
      @kristineheier796 Před rokem

      @@andreaskahn1731 I think he meant it's pronounced "dar-zine" if you were to say it in the british/english pronunciation. A isn't the same sound in English as in German, where it's pronounced like ah/ar, so I believe if you're English and want to pronounce it in the proper German way, you need to imagine there being an extra "r" at the end to get the pronounciation right :)

  • @jeremyesser797
    @jeremyesser797 Před 5 lety +1

    Absolutely brilliant. He remarks about past, future, etc have really shaped my perspective. I find myself not so much "dwelling on the past" or "hoping for the future" but more or less just trying to react and sort "properly" then I feel then my psyche will "align itself". Very difficult to describe. But I love listening to JP philosophize about this stuff. Never gets old. I feel like his work will be around for a LONG TIME.

  • @shivanshtyagi3254
    @shivanshtyagi3254 Před 4 lety +3

    Sir, if you're reading this I am reading Iain Mcgilchrist's master and his emissary. And your lectures are absolutely complimentary along with the book since the same philosophers and their ideas of intersubjectivity are raised there too. Thanks for uploading your lectures.

  • @OlliePage
    @OlliePage Před 7 lety +55

    It must really suck to the professor in the class that these guys go to next. How can you top JBP?

  • @duhardrock7616
    @duhardrock7616 Před 6 lety +5

    What a fantastic class!!!
    Congratulations Prof. Jordan!
    Cheers from Brazil!!!!

  • @GH3K3
    @GH3K3 Před 6 lety +15

    I think you needed an extra hour for this one, Dr. Peterson. Too complex for 45 minutes, but a noble effort.

  • @adnanahmad1051
    @adnanahmad1051 Před 5 lety +3

    Most interesting lecture so far in the course!

  • @AirsickHydra
    @AirsickHydra Před 3 lety +1

    Of all the lectures this has to be one of my favourites.

  • @mugeesulkaisar3560
    @mugeesulkaisar3560 Před 2 lety +2

    What a stunning lecture! Absolutely amazing

  • @bert.hbuysse5569
    @bert.hbuysse5569 Před 3 lety

    A great professor, narator and speaker. Thank you DR. Peterson.

  • @limitless1692
    @limitless1692 Před 6 lety +6

    i learn so much from this man
    i can't belive that i was so stupid and ignorant in my litle drama in my litle past
    thank you !

  • @mathissss2023
    @mathissss2023 Před 7 měsíci

    i miss you professor, been going outside and working for a while. i am back to continue your lecture again. feels like home

  • @automobili5796
    @automobili5796 Před 3 lety +1

    Dreams are so powerful. The first dream that I dared to write manifested itself much later. It was scary but clearly, the message was encoded right on it. It's not a pleasant outcome but I'm glad I wrote it down

  • @beholder9
    @beholder9 Před 7 lety +27

    You're up late Dr. Peterson.

  • @Heartracer
    @Heartracer Před 3 lety +1

    Wow what an honor it would have been to have this class

  • @timblackburn4638
    @timblackburn4638 Před 7 lety +6

    Beautiful stuff here man

  • @lt4965
    @lt4965 Před 7 lety +58

    When did you make a patreon? Clicked on it and holy fuck so much support. The internet is amazing.

    • @toddfundgren4299
      @toddfundgren4299 Před 7 lety +15

      Oh? And what are your contributions, Tarik?

    • @picarochi
      @picarochi Před 7 lety +25

      People are donating money to him with the understanding that he will be putting the funds to use in producing educational materials. That agreement is between him and his contributors,, and it is none of your business whether he earns 500 dollars or 500,000 in the process.

    • @sharp7j
      @sharp7j Před 7 lety +10

      So he should make less money than... Miley Cirus and all the other useless celebrities?

    • @b.w.8104
      @b.w.8104 Před 7 lety +16

      Sharp oh that would be awesome! Jordan Peterson might just be the beginning... could you imagine celebrity status for intellectuals matching that of "entertainers"...

    • @nathansoundz883
      @nathansoundz883 Před 7 lety

      He gets 17 grand a month for his youtube vids?

  • @sayenshin
    @sayenshin Před 4 lety +2

    10:36 and on is an extraordinary way of describing quantum physics (coming from a physicist engineer) and putting an internal reality into elementary particules.

  • @davidschwartz5127
    @davidschwartz5127 Před rokem +1

    This was a tuff lecture for me, I will need to watch this again, a lot of this went over my head.

  • @SKreatywny
    @SKreatywny Před 5 lety +4

    'Failure to shoulder existential burden results in neurotic guilt and fear.' I've been thinking about how a person can cope in the face of large amounts of their squandered potential. This, at the very least, explains a little about why this intense guilt appears in the first place.

    • @nephante8157
      @nephante8157 Před 3 lety

      It's overwhelming for sure, it's like giant weight on your shoulders and buzzing in your head. It's like you've been knocked down, died (or at least some part of you). It's lifted a little bit when something good happens in your life, but still you can't forget it - so you're working / thinking how to lower it.

  • @2biicoachingformndkarlotto317

    The future unfolds as you interact with it :)

    • @truefact844
      @truefact844 Před 3 lety +1

      the only person not worshiping Jordan, is that because you have more knowledge or the right knowledge?

  • @MelFinehout
    @MelFinehout Před 3 lety +2

    Has it ever occurred that with all he says, he's only pointing to iceberg tips? He could probably lecture longer than this on each iceberg. Amazing.
    That does it, ordering Maps of Meaning.

  • @seanvassar1117
    @seanvassar1117 Před 2 lety

    I think this is where Jordan shines

  • @jeffbriggs1987
    @jeffbriggs1987 Před 7 lety +81

    why are you up at 3am on a school night?

    • @pinkberry50
      @pinkberry50 Před 7 lety +3

      Family Day nigga.

    • @jeffbriggs1987
      @jeffbriggs1987 Před 7 lety

      DrVelvetProductions
      Family day was Monday, it's Tuesday morning now.

    • @malpais776
      @malpais776 Před 7 lety +2

      Nothin! We were just measuring somethin.

    • @PatrickBateman1987
      @PatrickBateman1987 Před 7 lety +6

      You can schedule upload on youtube. Just because it got uploaded at 3am, it doesn't mean that's the time he uploaded it.

    • @__rai
      @__rai Před 7 lety +3

      Just learning n stuff.

  • @reynemanzano
    @reynemanzano Před 10 měsíci

    Peterson’s description of the letter to medical school as a “portal to one of two futures,” his pointing out your shaking as you hold it in anticipation of whether you passed or not, and it’s determining of what the past was in relation to the outcome blew my fucking mind. I understood the idea unconsciously, but to hear it articulated is profound. (First 9 minutes of lecture)

  • @WaylonFlinn
    @WaylonFlinn Před 7 lety +5

    In my mind science, and the objectification it creates, are about establishing invariants. First, it established invariants across the experience of separate individuals. Second, it sought invariants across time and space (after those concepts were identified as foundational). In that sense I would say that "objectification" is not a single thing. It is a collection of things defined by the set of invariants across which it operates.
    Furthermore, if we experience meaning directly, we experience it not as a singular meaning, but instead as a plurality, a set of *potential* meanings. One of the functions of science, and observation in general, is to reduce this plurality of meaning to a singular or near singular set of meanings. This reduction of meanings yields power over the environment.
    Paradoxically, that power over the environment then leads to an even greater multiplicity of meanings. Since each object can now be manipulated in a greater number of ways, producing a greater number of possible outcomes. I would further posit that fear and anxiety are a direct result of the indeterminate multiplicity of meanings. The greater the number of possible meanings, the greater the level of fear and anxiety. In this way technology (the power yielded by science) leads to both nihilism and totalitarianism.

  • @antonyliberopoulos933
    @antonyliberopoulos933 Před 3 lety

    Thank you Jordan for opening our minds

  • @shadybrain3424
    @shadybrain3424 Před 7 lety

    this was such a fascinating lecture those 46 minutes felt like they went by in 10. you sir are a good teacher.
    and if you're wondering yes this is my first time watching his lectures.

    • @b.w.8104
      @b.w.8104 Před 7 lety

      shadybrain3424 be careful, he's more addicting than anything on Netflix.

    • @shadybrain3424
      @shadybrain3424 Před 7 lety

      yeah i just wanted something calm that i could goto sleep to, but i ended up just staying up and fully engaged the whole time.

  • @myriamlopez9853
    @myriamlopez9853 Před 4 lety +2

    Gracias Prof. Peterson desde Colombia. Aprecio mucho sus enseñanzas.

  • @Roberto-dd1te
    @Roberto-dd1te Před 3 lety +1

    Jordan elaborates on the ontological meaning of cleaning your room!

  • @XyZiid
    @XyZiid Před 2 lety +1

    Such a brilliant brilliant lecture 👏

  • @mikegreenguitar
    @mikegreenguitar Před 3 lety

    This is absolutely brilliant

  • @ballomj
    @ballomj Před 6 lety +1

    I idolize this man

  • @joeldio2
    @joeldio2 Před 6 měsíci

    Anyone here been through the Landmark Forum and Curriculum for Living will absolutely get this bang on !

  • @lifecloud2
    @lifecloud2 Před rokem +3

    When I was a little girl, my mother used to read to me. I remember being amazed by the fact that she could decipher what to me were images on a page and translate these into a story. I had such a difficult time figuring this out. Where did the story come from? How did she know what was there? I once asked her, "What's it like to read?" She tried to explain this to me, but a child who has no experience with anything like this is just at a loss to understand what someone who can read can magically do.

    • @rezkerry8809
      @rezkerry8809 Před rokem +1

      That’s amazing that you can remember that.

    • @lifecloud2
      @lifecloud2 Před rokem +1

      @@rezkerry8809 I think we remember things that surprise or shock us ... things that catch our attention in a surprising way. This happens even in childhood. I tested this a few years ago. I was walking down the hall to the restroom at work and there was a trail of star shaped confetti on the floor along the way. Usually I would ignore this and it would be out of my life experience forever. But as an experiment, I decided to deliberately set it in my memory .... like a photograph. That's why I remember it now (along with the fact that i often repeat this story ).
      When I was 11 years old, I was waiting on the stairway at my grandmother's house waiting for my cousin to bring over her fiancé to introduce to the family. I realized in that moment that my life would exist as a time when I didn't know "Bruce" and a time when I did ... that meeting this guy would alter my life direction forever (I was a strange child! HAHA!). So, I decided to capture that "before" moment in a type of mental photograph. To this day, at 73 years of age, I still hold a strong memory of that moment.
      The idea is to play with this. It's only when I try to remember the details of the rest of those two days that I lose those memories. That afternoon sitting with my mother being amazed by her ability to decipher those images on the page, holds detail of that moment: the chair, the sound of her voice, the sunny room, the feel of the air. But I think this is likely based on my age at the time and the strength of my amazement. Hold on to that sense of wonder and amazement with life and allow for the gaps in detail.

  • @Milestonemonger
    @Milestonemonger Před 6 lety

    This was a tough lecture to follow, but the examples and the stories attached helped tremendously.

  • @adder257
    @adder257 Před 7 lety +1

    Every time I watch one of these videos, I am drawn back to Dr. Peterson's conversation with Sam Harris. I can see from both sides of the argument, and the ideas presented are useful tools, but I have to come down on Dr. Harris's side in terms of the most efficient understanding of the world, and truth. Knowing how human beings model that internally, what little engines and personalities in the mind pre-digest the world for us, doesn't change that.
    I keep coming back to the idea of a simulated world. If you're a player, you see the entire game in terms of how it affects you, but if you're the programmer, you always find the idea of objects as a more minimal representation. It's all about what's more interesting to you: the streams of your own possibilities, or modeling the world itself in the most simple way.
    If you're solipsistic, the whole world is about understanding the self. But if you're social or a scientist, thinking of the world in terms of objects is always going to be the more efficient representation of how to think about possibilities.

  • @robertpalmer8371
    @robertpalmer8371 Před 6 lety +1

    I finally feel like I understand Heidegger.

  • @chickenshieee
    @chickenshieee Před 4 lety

    Wow ... fav lecture of dr Jordan

  • @quanganhhoang6670
    @quanganhhoang6670 Před 2 lety +1

    The part about curiosity is both complex and mind-blowing. The example of the quidditch game really intrigued me because cause there are many ways to interpret it. One way is we have to live a normal life in this material world but at the same time, we are attracted to something else chasing another thing that is not in the material world. Somebody would call the second path spiritual one. The very first manifestation of it, or the very first curiosity over the second one is the question 'who am I', 'what am I supposed to do in this life', 'that's it? is there anything else that matters that we need to pay attention to in this world?'
    About imagination, it's like a way of conveying some information from the unknown, which I consider a positive way of usage. How about the act of imagining bad things much more than necessary? Does it send a signal back to the unknown or send a message to somewhere or somebody else? What happens to us if messages are received, in other words, if imagination is a 2-way pipeline?

  • @dierotepillephilosophie1428

    This guy is on a roll these days.... Woow

  • @joelmarr6590
    @joelmarr6590 Před 5 lety +40

    26:29 - damn I wish I could do that with my pen...

    • @tamih532
      @tamih532 Před 4 lety +3

      Lol, he's some kind of magician

    • @RabiWielkiePracie
      @RabiWielkiePracie Před 4 lety +8

      Shes skilled with her hands huh? xD

    • @leacwpc
      @leacwpc Před 3 lety

      It's called pen spinnnig "thumb around" you can learn it on youtube lol

    • @Flux799
      @Flux799 Před 3 lety +2

      It’s a Canadian skill. One must learn it to live in the country.

    • @joelmarr6590
      @joelmarr6590 Před 3 lety

      @@Flux799 I am Canadian lol

  • @yossarian1633
    @yossarian1633 Před 3 lety

    There aren't enough of those Tim & Eric mind blown gifs on the internet for this lecture. I need to listen to this one again at least once my brain can barely keep up

  • @MrGorobu
    @MrGorobu Před 6 lety

    What a lecture! Thank you!

  • @woundedtiger1213
    @woundedtiger1213 Před 5 lety +1

    I remember the chaos orbs from final fantasy 1. In the quest you have to restore the light to the orbs and defeat chaos . I thought it was just a really cool game. I had no idea it was so deep appealing to my psyche through archetypes. With the archtypical heros journey.

  • @lukszlis
    @lukszlis Před 2 lety

    "The art is beyond what's articulable, otherwise its not art it's just propaganda." That's the best definition of art I've ever heard.

  • @xXKM4UXx
    @xXKM4UXx Před 2 lety +1

    I used the concept of phenomenology in my A.I Masters to explain an experiment in my autonomous vehicle thesis

  • @belletense3618
    @belletense3618 Před rokem +3

    So I’ve watched this vid a lot of times over the years and have just put two things together. When traveling to Japan there are a lot of words and phrases that I pick up on. I even started reading licence plates and objects around me which shocked my mom. She said my Japanese had gotten a lot better, and it did over there. But I think that’s because I didn’t see a square block with buttons, I saw a remote with a function, and new the patterns that remote have, so I was able to operate the tv very well over there. I could use basic home devices after putting patterns to objects to words. I could even use things like ATMs in the Japanese setting and more! Just never connected this concept with language acquisition before. Thought it was cool.

    • @shelbyrenovations3740
      @shelbyrenovations3740 Před rokem

      This comment was another instant epiphany of ways to learn and observe things
      Thank you 😊 another idea I will put in my batman toolbelt

  • @arizonaboy59
    @arizonaboy59 Před 7 lety +19

    Dr. Peterson do you teach graduate courses? Have you thought of offering MOOC courses? I would pay.

    • @romulosba
      @romulosba Před 7 lety +20

      Hey, you could became a patreon! I think what you are after is in the end of the following pharagraph.
      Direct from his patron page: "Patrons who provide $100 or more per month will receive a signed copy of my book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief (which retails at Amazon for $70). They will also receive two usernames and passwords for the SelfAuthoring Suite (value $59.98). Finally, they will receive a one-hour consultation or conversation with Dr. Peterson by Skype or Google Hangouts. Thank you for your support. "

  • @s3vster
    @s3vster Před 5 lety +2

    Mr. Peterson once again filling an hour with concise, eye opening truths and interesting thoughts, but it leaves me with one question: am I med school or not?

  • @pcstew3
    @pcstew3 Před 7 lety +17

    your lectures are inspiring my art. I'm currently making one of my shadow and jiminy cricket. I'd love for you to see it when im done.

    • @Lyotac
      @Lyotac Před 7 lety

      How are you going to unite with your shadow if you dont mind me asking?

    • @TheMedWolf
      @TheMedWolf Před 7 lety +7

      I like to troll online, personally.

    • @nadjiguemarful
      @nadjiguemarful Před 7 lety +1

      Ilya Dubovoy Still more a sophisticated artform than Twilight

    • @mare652
      @mare652 Před 6 lety +1

      I have found the same artistic inspiration from his lectures, only it is in the form of poetry. Thanks to Peterson and Bob Dylan both whom I started listening to this past summer. I am working on a book of poetry and watercolor.

  • @karensilver8853
    @karensilver8853 Před 2 lety +1

    This is my second viewing of the entire course. I am awed yet again; he nails it. I keep thinking this is the most rapt I have been since grad school--even more because I'm older. He's taking my psych training and my theology training and moving them together with an incredibly powerful and yet delicate hand.

  • @robertlee2262
    @robertlee2262 Před 2 lety +1

    Struggling to understand here for the first time so far, but not discouraged.

  • @MartineHyvik
    @MartineHyvik Před 6 lety +2

    Mind = blown. Amazing lectures! Thank you so much for you´re great work Professor!

  • @yourpoodlebobthefish
    @yourpoodlebobthefish Před 7 lety

    hurrah, more lectures!

  • @studiostandards
    @studiostandards Před 5 lety +1

    8:32 EMP wave blowing everything away! :)

  • @henri1_96
    @henri1_96 Před 3 lety

    i love that medical school example at the beginning :o

  • @southoceann
    @southoceann Před 8 měsíci

    Jordan gaze is so intense, Idk what I would do if he were to look at me for 15 sec during the lecture

  • @krystilynn3403
    @krystilynn3403 Před 3 lety +3

    I like how he gives examples for everything.

    • @harkyo
      @harkyo Před 2 lety

      That's what it means to understand something.

  • @beatsbury3209
    @beatsbury3209 Před 2 lety

    When Dr. Peterson, after a brief pause, says, “Look, …” I am ready to look as hard as I ever could. Because I know at that moment, for certain, that now he will make me see. As always.

  • @duffharris9295
    @duffharris9295 Před 5 lety +6

    Heidegger would've cringed at you equating Dasein to subjectivity. His whole goal was to overcome the Cartesian subject. See "The Age of the World-Picture", et al.

  • @RGB_01
    @RGB_01 Před 5 lety

    [00:12:00] - Book
    [00:19:00] -
    [00:33:00] - Who chooses your interests?
    [00:37:00] -
    [000] -
    [000] -

  • @wmritchey1101
    @wmritchey1101 Před 2 lety +1

    This gentleman is so misunderstood by many because they fail to really listen without bias. Learning takes time, effort and a decision by one's own will tooi understand.

  • @OhWaker
    @OhWaker Před 5 lety +8

    18:21 That smile is so cute and pretty and beautiful!

    • @Neo-dl7ts
      @Neo-dl7ts Před 3 lety

      I think it's akanemsko

    • @OhWaker
      @OhWaker Před 3 lety

      @@Neo-dl7ts The girl in the video looks more Korean so I don't think it's akanemsko.

  • @LizyPulpy
    @LizyPulpy Před 4 lety +2

    I've started to reread the book Regeneration by Pat Barker, have you read it? I now think of JP when I read this!

  • @faanross
    @faanross Před 7 lety

    Thanks Prof. Peterson. Would be interested to know if you saw a film released last year titled 'Swiss Army Man'? I think you will really enjoy it, and see many connections with some of the concepts you have been expounding on in earlier lectures. Be well.

  • @Mtek8
    @Mtek8 Před 6 lety +1

    5:40 Como o passado influencia o eu do presente que influencia o futuro.
    26:00 Coisas com significado.

  • @gidi1899
    @gidi1899 Před 3 lety

    21:18
    how about first comes the new data (image), then it is SOME image recognition, then the whats recognized is searched for meaning.
    THEN repeat the process to extract more recognition and then more meaning ....
    27:25
    Definition:
    Real to a person constitute of all the new information (that can't be imagined) that is assimilated or that was.

  • @dwilliams9801
    @dwilliams9801 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @gummi666
    @gummi666 Před 7 lety

    Correcting what was said at 17:00
    It's better to disable eye movement with sedative which will cause you to see all white, that could be called to "blank out", not "black out".
    If I remember correctly this happens because your cells report on difference of input, therefore if you keep the input static the cells will stop reporting anything to the brain, as there is no difference to report on.