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- SpaceX Starlink's new mysterious device is revealed but a few questions still remain for the Nomad, Hiker, Backpacker, RV'er, and on-the-go Starlink users that require not only a small form factor but added portability with the use of DC power. Does SpaceX scratch the itch?
Are you interested in this new device?
What are the things that you would require to make the purchase?
What is the price point that would work for you?
Are the slower speeds an issue for your use case?
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SpaceX Starlink's new mysterious device is revealed but a few questions still remain for the Nomad, Hiker, Backpacker, RV'er, and on-the-go Starlink users that require not only a small form factor but added portability with the use of DC power. Does SpaceX scratch the itch?
Are you interested in this new device?
What are the things that you would require to make the purchase?
What is the price point that would work for you?
Are the slower speeds an issue for your use case?
Subscribe, Share, and Like if so inclined! Also, after watching, consider commenting!
Can't wait to hear from you in the comments below this video!
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It is DC.. That is a DC barrel style port.. There is clearly no built in power supply circuit. So even if it comes with a external power supply it will VERY likely be 12v and even if its some other odd supply voltage like 18-20v like laptops.. Thats still DC
@@Napster60 Going to be 12V to 48VDC with an USB-C adaptor WoW
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@@Napster60 12V to 48VDC 60W with an USB-C Adaptor ...WoW
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Power delivery type C can do 5-20v This thing will be great!
Fitting in a backpack? Looks like something the military could use in their hundreds of thousands across the world
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EE with RF design experience here. Things I noticed from the PCB:
- 2 RF coaxial connectors near the upper antennas, giving the possibility of external antennas.
- Definitely a barrel jack, most commonly used for DC. It looks to be a 5.5mm OD, which is commonly used in the 12VDC-19VDC range. This would run nicely on automotive DC (lighter plug), or a 4S lithium pack.
- "4R2" is the impedance marking; 4.2 μH. Even if it can handle 6A (unlikely at that size), that doesn't mean it does.
- No apparent AC to DC conversion circuitry (lack of larger capacitors). The coils COULD be used for a buck regulator using some of the larger surface mount chips (caps).
My guess is that this device will run from a standard laptop power brick.
Now, speaking as a nomad, if the Mini can give me 100 Mbps for $100/mo, I'm in.
Good information, thanks.
12VDC to 48VDC 60W with an USC-C Adaptor ...WoW
I see them.. Kinda like IPEX connectors. Why 2.1GHz? An FCC filing should describe frequencies used.
There is a third antenna connector over on the right near the third antenna. And the chips you are referring to as " 4R2 " are actually marked " 4R7 ".
I second the barrel jack observation, they make barrel jacks with 48V - but it's unlikely since there is no visible step down to lower voltage. So the 12VDC -19VDC seems like a safe bet to assume.
YES, DC would be great for off grid, still waiting on the TESLA phone
Likewise
Hopefully it delivers better than the Patriot Phone was originally promised. My guess it likely will.
SpaceX has very deep pockets and resources. If they truly want to provide Americans real flexibility and privacy, they can deliver.
Waiting on anti missile defense system 😅
Awesome to hear the Tech/Engineers chiming in…Good, it is!😄
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The portable SpaceX device would be very useful for forest and brush firefighters. Online communication to support distribution of firefighting resources, real-time weather, and communication!
Oh ya.
Take that a step further. Military application. Internet communications for infantry. Think the green army men radioman, but with a starlink pack. But I think they are calling the military satellites 'Starshield.'
I'm thinking the 3rd 1800MHz antenna is a low power cellular Tx/Rx so that your mobile phone can connect to the phone network (via Starlink) without having to use wifi calling. The frequency is already supported by most mobile phones. What do you think?
If your in the military and on the move, you have to have something that's small and light and connects you to who ever is leading the mission.
I've been doing full time van life for going on five years now. I'm waiting for the mini kit to be released to get onboard with Starlink. I'm really hoping for lower power consumption and DC power. I'm also hopeful that the price is lower than the standard unit but I'd probably do the purchase either way if it is DC, low power and still has fairly good speed. Thanks for the info!
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The official spec sheet for Mini says Input Rating: 12-48V 60W. This includes snow melt capability, so likely less power required when portable.
The third band on the board might be for direct to sat connection at a much lower speed than using the dish... similar to what can be achieved using direct sat to a phone. so, leave the dish and just backpack the board and a battery to save weight/size
Good point. N1 is a 2.1Ghz connection.
The Starlink Mini fits on the hand quite like the size of the iPad Mini and let’s call it the X-Pad Mini
1. Dc
2. Work in motion.
3. 50mbps stable.
4. Price
5. A sub 75$ per month plan with pause support.
As an electrical engineer, your way off.
The inductors are for the 1v8 and 3v3 main rails for the cpu and rf front-end.
The front ant looks like a cellular fall back, and given the t-mobile contract, it's definitely an option. The little antenna is a standard ots dual band wifi antenna.
Based on the input protection, it looks like the 7-16v range it is a dc input..
I guess after reviewing the photo the the rj45 is for the dish as it's wired for POE+ output.
Honestly, the picture is kind of a disappointment, I like the dc input but I'd prefer a usb-c PD support so it can be used by most usb pd power banks.
Based on the electrical setup I'd put the rms in the 4-8w range with a 10w peek for this device plus whatever the dish needs.
After using ai image enhancement the has 3 wifi 2.4/5ghz only with a single antenna tied to one lower power rf stage and the two front ones in a 2x2 mimo configuration with class N ofdma support the I'm a little less sure on the voltage the poe feed appears to be passive from the main input but honestly no way to tell with out a view of the back of the board. If it truly is passive I'd expect 24-48v range the main dc fly back will handle that fine
Great assessment .
The third antenna will connect the router to any cell phone for direct satellite service for calls and internet
As a electrical engineer, I recognize the "power" connector having the shape of a 2.1 or 2.5 mm barrel connector. In recent times, these are commonly used for 12VDC input, although this is NOT a standard. There are no components near the input that suggests that this is a AC input. However, there appears to be a custom surface-mounted transformer starting with the "220" a bit further up. This is likely the transformer which is used to create the 48VDC used for the Power over Ethernet (PoE) going to the Starlink Antenna.
A DC router is not just of value to "nomands" and Search & Rescue, but also to military and espionage-related organizations. By turning off WiFi and only using the ethernet port, you could create a virtually undetectable remote communication link anywhere within reach of the Starlink satellites.
Sure, I am waiting for a while for a 12v system to use in my RV. I almost bought the current RV system but looking closer into it is is to much hassle with the long wires, AC and connecting it to my RV router. A good price for a mini system would be between 250-300 euros. It should be a flexible system with standard connectors which make it possible to make my own coax cables. That will be easier to feed it into the RV.
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Yup, I’m in for the 12v mini…
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Being a trucker, this would be perfect for me
Oh ya
OOOOHHH it could fit on a drone!! Always connected.
N1 looks like for a Cell phone service 2100mhz maybe for 3g for 4g for a particular phone network maybe switched on for particular countries?
Yes. 3G / 4G maybe MIMO
So there has to be a connection between the Starlink antenna and the router. It could be the Ethernet port, OR the N1 router antenna is a wireless connection to the Mini antenna.
Boondocker makes a dc power supply for Starlink that fits in your hand and switching the Starlink power cord to a cat 6 I also have a router in the palm of my hand.. just waiting for mini dish 😂
This is a military grade device like a special operations team use. Multiple communications and redundancy ability. For instance SEALS, Green Beret, counter insurgent teams, CIA, or spies. Then adapted to civilians use.
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Same way as our Sat phone radio worked along with our base station radio. We had three channels that we normally used ( Low band ). With 5 more that could be code unlocked ( we were told to pray that we never had to do that ). We also had radio by satellite and phone by satellite ( thru a call center in Langley, VA ) and we had to test the phone connection of it monthly ( $3 a minute at that ). And had to do monthly tests of our low band communications even though those were in use daily, they only were monitored on that one day by the State EOC. Our test was to our Control Room but the EOC monitored it. And even though our Sat Phone/Radio unit was wired to an outdoor antenna, it was also portable with its own built in antenna and a portable power supply that could hook into a lighter port on a vehicle. And the base radio and the Sat phone radio were also tied into our microwave radio system which also gave us internet connectivity. Why they were tied to the latter was never explained but I had a feeling it was so that they could remotely control the use of both units. Government works in strange ways when you have to deal with State, US Army Corps of Engineers, FEMA, NPS, and the Federal Court systems.
A small unit like SpaceX has could well serve the military as a built in unit in planes, trucks, tanks, ships, etc... And if it is 12-48V usable, that would fit in with the systems of almost every one of them without any extra modules except the antenna unit.
from modding my Version 2 to run of DC - it will be either 12V or 48V, the phase array of the V2 and V3 are directly powered with 12V - and most routers are also running 12V - so my guess is 12V
Wifi6 and higher versions already use a third frequency at 6GHz. 6 and 6e use this, and Wifi7 is supposed to be formalized this year, also using all three frequencies. So three antennas just mean it is the same Wifi commonly in use now.
But if it is an N1. That would be 2.1Ghz
I could see this in a military back pack or my Bug Out Bag. Fun fact the internet was designed and built for the military.
Not sure about the Al Gore part LoL 🤣
Gore. Right. A nut.
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And we know that the military also has its hands on part of the Starlink system also.
My best guess is that the new device is a new mobile hotspot that will connect to 5G cellular as its first type of connection. When there is no cell service, it will connect to Starlink. This would be a device that T-Mobile or any of the other cell carriers licensed to sell T-Mobile direct-to-mobile service.
That N1 would be a 3G / 4G at 2100Mhz. Very strange.
A small solar powered military connectivity communication device. Probably solicited by the military. The third antenna would communicate with an encrypted device. Probably to communicate with the “Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture” system. That's my guess.
Going to have MUCH more use and ability, on the battlefield for connectivity .
Watch and see
I agree as I mention in my comment.
Yea
Everyone is complaining about monthly price. I have only cable internet. It started around $128 a month. This month. $158. Cable internet out did all services on cost. Cable internet does go out. Sometimes, for around a day. The last time it was 10 hours. I will be changing to something else. I don't get my money back.
Looking at the circuit analyzed, I assume that the router will be powered by a low amperage 12v source. The 2.1GHz frequency may refer to some frequency operated by Starlink satellites. I assume the antenna and router will be integrated into a single product
This device could be part of roaming…? If so, this could be used for people on the go as well as commercials like researchers and scientists. The option extends in wide range. And, it would be nice if it has AC and DC connections. Thanks for the video.
looks like a DC power socket poss barrel style socket.
I hear 👂 poss 25watts power consumption 🤞
I don't think this is *just* a standard WiFi router. It has to have a unique starlink purpose. I'm guessing there is a direct cell connection combo story.
Hopefully.
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This will be a game changer for people that will need this. But, cost to purchase and monthly cost needs to be within reasonable limits. 25-50$ added to your already high house unit will decide whether you “need” this convenience! Monthly cost will determine if it is reasonable!
It should be obvious that this device will be DC to reduce Parasitic Drain (75-150 W) associated with AC to DC conversion. This will be very useful for off grid use … the PS will be battery/ PV input.
RV’s, Sailboats, adventurers (skiers, hunters, mountaineers, etc.) will be the civilian target group, but the military will be where the profit lies.
The Ukrainian conflict has proven the efficacy of Starlink, both for comms & drone coordination. The “backpackable” Starlink solution will revolutionize field operations.
An interesting use case, would be to add this mini starlink terminal to a drone. one way to identify the RF circuits are by the three antenna terminal on the PCB
Hey J. this black box looks like a barrel connector, this meens it must be for a DC Power supply may be (12-48VDC)
I believe that almost all home routers are DC powered, with the conversion being done in the 'A/C Wall Brick' that converts AC to DC. Why?
Because all the cost of CSA Certification is much cheaper since it can be amortized over it millions of the 'A/C Wall Plug' which is produced in the millions. Plus, every time you make a simple design change to the router, you don't have to recertify it to CSA.
EE here; component size and lack of transformers says the black plug indeed means DC. Use case? Automobile (e.g. SiriusXM), general use military (SOF has their own already), aviation, and then private/personal use. Smaller package, lower parts count, lower weight and size also make it extremely attractive to any number of industrial applications. Power? Vehicle power... Or currently available retail: 40w folding solar panel $140; charge controller (12/24v, 100A $16). Then size the battery for your needs/carrying capacity (12V 12Ah | LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Battery $150). Eminently doable and would spread Starlink even more...
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I'm interested if the monthly is cheaper.
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DC for sure, solar power capable. Military would love it!
for a week now if I put in my address for fun I just get a popup they are having trouble, try again later. What's going on? are they really that busy?
I can see companies like oil, surveyor, even construction companies needing this, as far as myself not really but it’s cool as shit to watch it come about.
yes dc woulb amazing!!!
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I will be ordering one :)
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The new backpack router via DC?
Oh ya. Would be cool.
A small router and dish would be great as long as the speeds are fast. I hope it will be available while traveling.
2.1Ghz is used for 4G, maybe it will provide cellular hotspot service but I did not see a space for a sim card.
This board has no transformer or bridge rectifier that would be needed to create DC from AC.
How many mini new Starlink receivers will be available?
More than most, but fewer than all - but not by much.
Will the FCC and IRS subsidize these like they haven't yet?
I want to take credit for posting this - but it was my keyboard that did it (OK, I pressed the keys). Thanks
They could. Will they. That’s another question. Maybe every illegal alien will get one free.
gen1 and gen3 are also DC, as you can just replace the PSU by a DC-DC.
But yeah DC input is the most important, because any DC-DC these days is way more efficient than AC-DC.
But the best if it has an internal buck-boost that can start around 7V up until 60V.
7V are those RC LI+ batteries, 60V is the top voltage of a 48-56V battery system.
Also a backpack version should be around $50 a month because of the expected lower speeds.
Would be a life saver in the desert though.
As an RV guy. I believe the standard provides more options and router inside RV. I believe speed will be differentiated over mini. I could be wrong.
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If you enter developer mode on app you can see the mini
How do you do that?
@gregf1299 open app and scroll down to bottom and tap rapidly on starlink and it will open developer mode
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I could and would use it at work for a hotspot.
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If it's going to be backpack useable, the power will have to be USB. Not some AC to DC convertible source. USB C would be my guess. And if it is, then I'm going to be owning my 3rd StarLink router.
I work from home and am required to use a VPN. Using Starlink, will it kick me out of the VPN every time it changes satellite
12 volt DC
Is there a chance the N1 bands could be used for cell?
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I think with a portable product the monthly cost needs to be more …. As required , pay as you go perhaps . There are plenty of applications for a more portable device but to buy into another high monthly cost for something your not gunna use as much.. computer says no
This could be the satellite receiver for Tesla cars. No more paying AT&T. No more serius/xm, and a new revenue stream for Tesla
this new device may be a game changer, I wish they make it easier to use outdoors, Tesla can provide the battery tech for that
That would be cool!
Bro!!! Where is the connection for the dish?
All in one.
Is there an image of the other side of the PCB? Maybe there is a silkscreen on the other side that'll have more clues.
Sadly. I could not find one.
I'm confused. My AC1750 is already a DC device. It plugs into the AC house supply but the AC/DC adapter converts it to DC. So a DC only device would just be a simple adapter to tune the DC power a little. Should be easy for them to do.
I don't think your analysis of the antennas is correct. Wi-Fi devices regularly are dual band, including 2.4 and 5 GHz in the same antenna. So they are both probably 2.4 AND 5GHz. And, most use multiple antennas in a diversity setup it uses both antennas to give a better signal to clients. 6-amp antennas makes no sense. Antennas are not rated in amps. Watts maybe. But, depending on which source you check, maximum Wi-Fi power for residential equipment is about 1 watt. 1 watt is about .2 amps at 5 volts, or even less at 12 volts. The 6 amp regulators may just be providing DC to different circuits (RF amplifiers?), but do not directly have anything to do with the antennas. What you are seeing may not even be "antennas" at all. They may be RF shields over the RF components to reduce spurious emissions. In that case, antennas may be attached to connectors on the board when the unit is assembled. Not sure what the N1 is for this device. That is not a Wi-Fi band. N1 is a cellular band, which in itself is interesting. If they are indeed including a cellular band, would it have something to do with the direct to cell project, or could it get service from a cellular carrier (T-Mobile?)
Interesting device, nonetheless. SpaceX just continues to innovate!
DC would be a game changer..😊
I believe that it would have substantial benefit to the military.
the 4r7 inductors will part of a pair of buck converters for smaller voltages. wouldnt be good rf pcb design to cram such circuitry together like that.
I'm in my sixties and in my retirement I like to go prospecting, metal detecting and spend a lot of my time in the bush away from civilization. So for safety reasons, it would be nice to have something small with large coverage. This looks like it, as for the price around $300.00 max and a service less then $100 a month. Pensions don't go far, lol.
I have been looking for something like this for quite awhile, cell phones don't help, satellite in most cases, not much better. Mountains, valleys and bush and limited regular satellite coverage, his network of satellites much more coverage.
So just found out it will be 12v and USB C for power
There is talk on the net that there may well be a cheaper plan for the mini dish that is limited to 500GB/month to compete with 4G/5G.
Would be interesting.
*It's no longer a mystery...* It's a mini Starlink and it's said to be just a few hundred bucks. The design and installation docs have been snooped out. Apparently, it runs on either AC, DC, or USB-C ... and the satellite and router are a single unit. Notably, it looks like they used WIFI 5, which is outdated tech. It's about the size of a small laptop, and it _may_ come with a short pole (for mounting.)
modem, Wi-Fi router, and dish all in one
We will so see
Great discussion JC. The Ethernet jack suggests it's part of a configuration and its likely leading to a dish. No PoE because the input 12 vdc probably won't allow that (48v).
I'm curious about the shielded components, especially the non rectangular one, that could house a memory/ sim? of some type.
Why are those other chips shielded?
Interesting! Great question.
I've seen those on various RF boards. TV tuners use something like that to create an RF shielded area on the board.
I’m using a Starmount Gen3 DC conversion now on my Van
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Black box in bottom left is a standard DC barrel jack connector. Third antenna may be a special Bluetooth to better interface with the app on phone. Big chip is the quadcore or octacore CPU. But looks like it may be ARM and not x86. Anyway, that is what I can gleam based on my 30 plus years in IT, and 40 years in electronics.
Thank you so much.
According to another site , it is an ARM CA7 dual core 1.25GHz MT7629 WiFi chip.
Based on the circuit board design I would guess it is a DC jack, most likely 12v. If it was being designed to be powered by AC it would have a rectifier network and electrolytic capacitors (as well as a transformer) to covert and buffer the AC for DC use. DC would be simpler and make more sense, which is always Elon’s MO.
Yea!!
Be interested for my camper but price of everything is going to dictate. Wouldn't be for full time. Need to be able to turn on/off at will or priced accordingly for seasonal.
My ping went down and no outages from yesterday I use to have 100 ping now 43 so seems starlink is getting more stable for me 😊
wow!! Great to hear
@@jcristina thank you looking forward for Friday to give you and update again seems all the satellite 🛰 over my house now lol
Where do you reside?
You are such a good source for this. The mini sounds really appealing.
Appreciate you!
Could this be used for military or do they already this technology?
Could be.
I would love it for by Non-Profits office.
I’m interested, and I’m old and not out and about very much these days. 🎉
actually ( to support your 3 antenna theory) there are 3 4R7 chips on the board and one is notably separated from the circuitry of the other 2. Nicola Tesla was a pioneer in directed wireless energy transmission; the 3rd 4R7is 'isolated in such a way that it could be used as an energy tap ( or a satellite transmitted micro voltage energy transfer negating the necessity for a power source) ; like Elon says - no component is the best component. He has also postulated on not requiring a power source to return samples from Mars...Hmmmm. My quantum entangled engineering mind would not rule out an unannounced , but already very tested inhouse, coup in the power source.
"Plain" USB-C will not deliver more than 5 volts. Yes, the USB-C 3.x "PD" sockets can provide it, but the majority of USB-C format power supplies will not.
So using a standard barrel connector for the power supply ensures there will be no problem with customers saying "it doesn't work" when the problem is an older USB-C power supply. And everyone using USB devices, logos, etc. is supposed to pay licensing fees to the USB owners, so Elon may only save a penny per device--but a quarter of a million pennies still add up. If a device is submitted for UL/CE approval, there are already plenty of power warts using barrel connectors, that Starlink can purchase instead.
Barrel plug. DC or AC.
Could the 3rd antenna be for emulating a cell tower, enabling any phone to connect?
Possible. 3G / 4G
2100Mhz is one of the cellular bands
@@kd7ltn Thanks for confirming, I wasn’t sure.
I heard the WiFi only supported WiFi 5x
I would hope WIFI6 minimum. Would like to see WIFI6e or 7
I’m surprised they aren’t powering it from a USB-C port.
Maybe the power comes via a cable from the dish, with a USB-C port powering the dish?
We are all familiar with the modem/routers we have at our house. They take a ethernet signal and send it out either by WIFI or by ethernet cable. Now....
Is there a device that will pickup WIFI such as your home or StarLink receive it and output it to a multi-port switch such as NetGear so you can plug things into it?
Anyone out there with an answer? What would it be called?
Good question.
I'm not seeing a diode bridge on that board as far as I can tell.
I see that it is obviously DC-powered.
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Back pack Solar panel power. 😊
Maybe the solar panel also has the antenna.
Oh ya.
It can fit in your hand, but will weigh 3 ton; think neutron star
There are 3 x 4R7, 1 is upside down
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Just guessing here, wireless antenna. Solar powered rechargeable battery packs.
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It's a DC jack. Trained eye says it's a 5.5x2.x barrel plug. There are regs on physical protection on AC inputs that are just not there in the picture. Also, there is no evidence of bridge or rectifier SMDs near the jack. My guess is it's 12vdc - then it makes it real easy to power from a car, a portable DC source or a solar panel... and is a jellybean in the 5.5 barrel jack world. If it was lower voltage... at this point in time, it would have been USB-C for a PD input.
I would agree and I didn’t even think about a missing rectifier.
We all know that we are not going to use it in a "portable" way but rather statically and the reason for purchasing is the lower price.
But…. Slower speeds
@@jcristina It is not a negligible speed. It is perfectly usable. Those of us who live in poor countries are our ideal option.
Thank god Boeing is not involved! Take forever if they were.
maybe its for the new cellular phone