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- čas přidán 19. 11. 2012
- Goldwing verfolgt KTM
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That KTM sounds like a broken Harley...
Sounds terrible. Has it got oil?
Goldwing has no chicken strips on the tires and no bottoms to the paniers Extremely dangerous but EPIC to watch.
Those goldwing tires must be begging for mercy lol
It's incredible how many people can't see the GW rider knows what he's doing. Tons of experience.
Philip Laurell breaking mid corner is NOT experienced....
+goguhu. Learn how to control your bike mate. You use your brakes to adjust your line through the corner. Rear brake to pull it in tighter, front brake to run it out wider.
To keep it short ... hitting the brakes while in the turn == bad, breaking while entering the turn can be fine if you know what you are doing. I have seen so many new riders crashing in the turn due to breaking, or freezing up causing the bike to not turn, and drive off the road. You don't use the brakes to adjust your line THROUGH the corner ... but into and to the apex, not THROUGH ... that's what the throttle is for. (Granted there's different techniques for off road, dirt, supermoto, road racing, racing, etc.) but for 99.9% of riders on standard bikes hitting brakes IN the corner is bad ...
"Spencer and Ienatsch agree with the physics of angular acceleration and note that the slower any vehicle is going, the tighter the radius of the corner it can navigate.[4] This is seemingly opposed to Keith Code's writing that, as soon as possible after initiating a turn, the rider should get on the gas smoothly and progressively throughout the turn.[6] Spencer points out that for every radius, motorcycle, and rider combination there is a maximum speed at which the turn can be navigated without exiting the road or suffering a low side crash. Code is saying that as long as this maximum speed is not exceeded, proper throttle control throughout the turn will result in higher corner exit speeds and faster lap times."
BTW: It's very fun to keep trail-braking into the corners and getting a bit drift on the bike, but it's hard on the tires. If you are into racing I agree with you, but very few of readers will be, and giving them advice to break through the corner is not a good one.
+goguhu. You've got a lot to learn about motorcycle riding mate. Maybe take a few advanced rider training courses.
I can actually offer you some classes, feel free to sign up. Not sure if you understood what I was saying ... for the average rider on public roads it's not advisable to have them hit the brakes IN THE TURN, if you really want to understand why there are plenty of physics simulators out there showing why that's a bad idea. This is not the same as trail braking INTO the corner, which is often used to pre-tention the springs, often in combination with slight wheel spin/drift to get an extra push out after the apex, but for the average rider this is not something to try on public roads. Also this typically won't apply to GL1800, but more relevant to sports bikes with properly heated tires. Feel free to read Keith Code's book, it might serve you well. Watch i.f. Rossi on track, how do you think he can accelerate after apex if he was on the rear brakes?
Damn, that was dangerous. That mid corner braking and those lines are painful to watch.
hiard10 Exactly what I thought. That was bad riding at it's best. By all 3 of them.
hiard10 it's possible he was braking and accelerating simultaneously to keep the barge turning. Is a common technique in motor racing.
Race technique is to trail brake. You don't engage the brake mid corner though.
@@andreashecht3045 You do this in 4 wheeled racing, not motorcycle racing, since your front wheel will turn in.
@@ExtremeDeathman on motorbikes (on asphalt) i often use the rear brake to cut the corner apex or to control the acelleration while still turning... i do not linked the brake to the rear light for that reason. it's very common.
at the start it was pretty dangerous, but if you can see no incoming traffic, why not use the the road?
Чуваку на "голде" респект !!!
Respect to the dude on the "gold"!!!
The difference is, the KTM wasn't risking other people's lives cutting into the oncoming traffic's lane on almost every corner.
Well, it's almost a truck after all 😜
Risking is racing
Look carefully... the Goldwing is always going over the line when he can see what is ahead. True, with 800 lbs there is NO room for mistakes!!
@@rccmrccrawlermods4517 Accidents happen when someone DOESN'T see the danger. The GW rider isn't immune to failure to see an oncoming danger. He's risking other people's lives by illegally crossing the center lane.
that G W passenger sure has confidence in him ,she was part of the bike
Worlds Biggest Sports Bike!
Lots of people don't realize that Goldwings are very capable and I believe the designer had sportbike background.
Mis respetos para el piloto de la Goldwing y con pasajero es de mucho valor y el copiloto saber moverse 👍al ritmo del piloto 😱
Der Goldwingfahrer kann ja mal gar nicht fahrn! Hängt mehr in der Gegenspur als auf seiner anderen und riskiert damit nicht nur das Leben seines Sozis und seins! Wenn er Kurven kratzen will soll er sich ne Maschine holen, mit der er das ohne Risiko für die anderen hinbekommt! :(
american/foreign people PLEASE: do realize that in EU (especially in italy..) cutting the roadway is not so dangerous as you thought. first of all you do this after watching if NO ONE COMING from the opposite side (we are not so stupid risking our own life every turn, at least not all of us); the hill/mountain roads are so fucking narrows that it's very common to do not even have the center line to separate the roadways also becuse no one could stay perfectly in it; low traffic will be an other big advantage; people who ride on these roads for decades and is still alive should confirmed i'm right differently as a lot of you thought. this GW is nothing extraordinary on the Alps, i can follow him on my on/off tyres and 38cv '86 honda XL600 (during the downhill). safetly.
Extremely risky, especially for the passenger
Yes, that's right, the driver was safe.
A classic case of it ain’t what you ride, it’s how you ride it! Two up as well! 😳
Das ist nicht mein Motorrad fahren . GENIESSEN . Echte Biker sind das nicht .
You can be fast and still not be good, there ya go
Nicht nur im Salat ist Öl wichtig, oft auch im Motor.
Schon ne Blamage von so einer schweren Eisensau auf kaum kurviger Strecke gejagt zu werden.
Dude is awsome rider love the fact that hes on a big cruiser too..
Goldwing is not a cruzer it's a touring bike.how do I know I have a goldwing and a cruzer.
Love them both.😁👍
@@GW-og4us The Goldwing is a enduro - look: czcams.com/video/b24rNczG3SM/video.html
Reckless quid borrowed grandpa's GL1800 again, next video, Goldwing rips phat nooners and dank whoolies
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This is the funnest video I ever seen! Two up riding...the pilot and passenger are obviously synched up and well trained in either role. Would love to visit this part of Europe.
Austria
@@frankhillebrand7443 Nope. South Tyrol, Italy.
@@ExtremeDeathman …let’s say The Alps then….
The expert GW rider didn’t have the best lines, but maybe that was due to the extra passenger weight, soft suspension, and limited ground clearance. In any case, he mostly kept up with the intermediately-skilled single rider, and made us Goldwingers proud. Almost inspires me to go out and drag the pegs on my ’83 Interstate . . . almost, but not quite. :-)
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I sold my Suzuki Vstrom 1000 and bought 2 Goldwings. Goldwings have a larger turning radius than Sport bikes. I found this out the 1st ride on My GL1500, when I turned onto a street going about 40mph and the pegs started to scrape the ground. My Vstrom would have taken that turn at 70mph.
Air suspension on high solves the problem my 50%
Not even going to try that or anything like it. Not had a bad crash on a bike sense the 1970's and had many back then. These old bones hurt just watching this video. ;)
laute Krachmacher in unverantwortlicher Fahrweise, sollten alle drei mal mit der Bahn fahren dürfen für drei Monate...
And the Goldwing has a passenger!!!
Miserable Kurvenführung. Ein Kurventraining wäre bei dem sicherlich keine schlechte Idee.
Putting the passenger in danger is never a good thing, but nice riding.
UTTER STUPIDITY!!! Putting other people's lives at risk!
Shit hot. Good stuff. No scraping so i suspect a suspension upgrade wilbur are very good.
That GW driver may be fast, but follows a shitty line. Security = 0
I wonder, if somewhere in the world, given the same exact circumstances, that there is a capable Goldwing rider able to stay within the lines? I'd really like to know.
It's easy to go outside the lines.
yellow goldwings are the fastest.
The goldie certainly gets out of the corners
ktm spounds like its gonna rattle apart...
Wobbly through the turns, braking mid corner, not staying in your lane... Very bad driving style
+Frido15 We have a Rossi here... Wobbly from plush soft suspension + you've obviously never heard of trail braking.. The guy piloting the GW was a better rider than you will ever be. You forget the old guys have been riding longer than you've been alive..
That goldwing rider could really ride, his passenger must have been shitting his or her pants
That kind of riding gets him killed quite quickly in the Alps...
Hey les pilotes, vous avez deja piloté un 1500 se dans la montagne avant de faire des coms?
Awesome ride,...quite dangerous now and then though
Super Driver Вот это мужик стальные яйца впрочем у его бабы тоже
That lines and blind overtaking is way dangerous!
But in-corner braking - rear as front brake - is not a no go as long as you do it with sense and carfully and maintain turn radius / a proper line.
In case of ermergency every centimeter counts for decreasing speed.
Many riders think about a sliding front wheel when engaging the brake in corner.
But there is a range from non braking till overbraking with sliding wheels.
Always a safe ride!
Yess… 🥳🤩🤩Goldwing Power
Pizza Express 😂
Sounds like riding a cheap chainsaw.
Advanced skills
I admit I can't do that on my Wing!
I can!! 94 gl1500a 😎
The goldwing is taking to many chances wouldn't like to be his passenger only matter of time before he crashes if not here somewhere else rip
Whaouuu , j'adore. Bravo .
KTM engine sound terrorific.
Mantap gan 👍👍 mampir di gubuk kita gan 👍👍👍
welche strasse ist das?
SP 29 Brixen nach St.Martin im Thurn
damn, it's loud as f*ck, my head is hurt.
2 people offering their organs for donation; pls apply
szacun
By the look of it, especially the yellow colour of the bike this could have been Yellow Wolf. If there is one guy who now to wrench the neck out of this bike he is.
About the remarks of this rider's riding style; this way of riding is highly unusual in the USA, however, in Europe you will learn to use the etire road if there's no uncoming traffic.
You will also learn to look through the corner to see where the road is going and if there is no traffic in the way. Very usefull when riding on paved levee's, of which there are many in the Netherlands.
And still 100% illegal and stupid if there's a full line between lanes. That line is drawn through for a reason at these places - because you can't really see through the curve there.
You are allowed to do what you describe only if the line is not drawn through *and* if you have enough line of sight. Ride like that guy and you fail your driver's test. Deservedly, too.
@@TheFeldhamster It is not illegal to cross the line in Europe. During advanced riding courses you will be learned to use the road completely when you have full sight ahead through the corner, which is a viewing technique you will be taught, to look through the corner.
@@TonVerkleijT3 I AM European. It IS illegal to cross the line when it's drawn through. You are only allowed to cross it in exceptional circumstances, eg if there's an accident that blocks your lane completely.
And I doubt that any advanced riding instructor teaches to go over the line. Here, advanced riding classes are typically given by the bigger automobile clubs, and they are pretty law abiding, not some racerhead rogues. No ÖAMTC or ADAC instructor will teach you this.
And the whole look into the curve and use the full lane stuff is on the actual basic training anyway, you don't need to attend an advanced course here for that. Basic courses for getting your license are pretty comprehensive on those things here.
As soon as you're into the lane of the oncoming traffic (line or not) you would have to drive/ride not only on sight but on half sight. Because that oncoming vehicle is moving as well, so just going on sight as you would in your own lane (where you should be able to expect at most stationary obstacles) is not enough. As soon as you're somewhere where you have to expect oncoming traffic doing the same speed as yourself, you basically need to adjust your speed and slow down so that half the distance you can see is enough for you to brake (the other half is for the oncoming guy). Now, granted, it's easier to swerve on a motorcycle than on a car and if there's 2 motorcycles passing each other they might fit into one lane but it's still stupid to move into the other lane at full speed or even speed up if you can't see far ahead. And if there's a full line, even more so. You can bet money that they drew those lines through in those places because there had been accidents there. They are usually not wasting paint for nothing here.
@@TheFeldhamster 100% agreed. I have no additions. Only that I have had rides with austrian experts like Ötzirider, Türtscher Franz from Galtür, Varahannes, and the 1000 PS crew. None of them crossed the line like these guys did.
I am from The Netherlands and is definitely forbidden here to cross those lines. And besides risking a ticket you are risking a lot more in my opinion. If you need to cross those lines often for anything else then avoiding dangerous situations such as other traffic ,accidents,debris and so on. Your own riding style might not be as safe as you think.
1:22 if a truck comes from the opposite direction he's dead
If grandma had balls she would be grandpa
Nonsense. Advanced riding is all about observation, looking well into the distance to see or preempt what is happening next. So not staring at the vehicle in fronts number plate
Winger wit a passenger pulling on him lmao!!!
Goldwing vorever 👍
I can't believe the comments here... You think that's good riding?? No wonder 11 miles and 300 odd bends the "dragons tail" causes so much trouble to so many lardy bikes in the states. This person's driving with a pillion is frankly stupid risking his own and other people's lives
Goldwings haben ein exzellentes Fahrwerk! Zumindest die neuen
Steady on with that ktm it will breakdown!! Or blow up!!
The 90s are gone 😉🤣
Its 2021 n there still breaking down n blowing up! Nothings changed.
Using the 'wrong' side of the road when you can see round the curve, and there's no oncoming traffic is one thing; doing it repeatedly on blind bends, as that Gold Wing rider did, is bloody stupid.
He's just a corpse looking for the scene of death.
..............wisdom of whats about to pull out across your path...NOT FOUND HERE
la goldwing è un vero spettacolo......
Goldwing dude was shredding 2up
Does every one think this Goldwing is good rider? He needs to stay of brakes before every turn! But dang, an two up too! Stay off brakes all time will make him even better!
Never heard of trail braking then. Loading the front suspension so you dont upset the shocks mid turn
Good wing with two up has some very good skills albeit dangerous!
wow
it is all a metter of balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Q!
Noobs on the road. Go to the track and see what's really up.
Why? If You want to drive like That Then get a crotch rocket! He WILL bottom out With either His saddle bags or His pipes someday. He will Then be a giant road rash. Not impressed at stupidity. I only wounder if His passenger ever rode With Him again!
Saying goes, beware of old man on a Goldwing. He probably knows how to ride and can thrash a GW. If sportbike riders live to a ripe old age, they probably gonna be on a GW.
Too much braking and not exactly enjoying the scenery. What's the point?
enjoiyng the turns. the scenery is to have a cigarette after "having sex" on the turns with your bike.
hopefully the passenger lived to never ride with that idiot again . wrong place , time ,couldn't keep in lane on blind corners . looks like he almost lost it a couple of times . luckily a car didn't enter the space when he was out of his .
Goldwing💪
😮
en duo en plus!!!
that guy is a lunatic. I wouldn't follow him for 5 miles. Wow, he's terrible. Looks like the video is sped up to exaggerate the effect.
Everyone in the comments are pro riders.
El de la golwuin esta zumbao.
Tool! Take it to a track.
Goldwing 2 up, planted!
I own both a 1800cc goldwing and a 1190 KTM, KTM is much much faster.
Criminal.
great leaning..rossi"s competitor.
He lacks basic drivingknowlege for a bike. That was emberising bad
Guys good,just needs to stay in his own lane.
Tko kaže da OOnda nemaže brzo šarati krivine
I am gonna buy a car and dress it up to look like a deer
Das ist Goldwingen,... ich liebe es!
Ein Spinner, der Goldwinger.... Was hat der links der Sperrlinie verloren??? Ganz richtig, NICHTS. Linienwahl mehr als Fragwürdig.
Hideous engine noise.
Oh my god
daman mast say hi is fuckin good for two up take sou match effort doing crazy ride hi put on line live in passenger i cross the line many time on speed over 180 mph but never attempt hurt anybody
Not impressed with the GW rider!
hilarious!
He know what he is doing, people who drive one of these perfection of bike know that
SP 29 Südtirol
I love the driver of de Goldwing.
Rider, not driver
That's pretty bad driving.
respect for GW rider.....
He is a big idiot, not respect for these basterd