Bush v. Simpsons
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- A featurette from the special features of season four of "The Simpsons" DVDs, examining the complicated, tense relationship between "The Simpsons" and President George H. W. Bush.
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As I remember George Bush later would move next door to the Simpsons where he and Homer got in a fist fight
That was probably inspired by his speech on the Simpsons.
When I was a kid I thought it was George W Bush who moved into Springfield (I am a Zoomer who was born in 1998, so don't judge)
He's moves to across the street not next door.
@@mat2000100 But it's pretty clearly Bush Sr. Jr doesn't even wear glasses.
@@mat2000100 when I was a kid, I thought W. Was H.W. trying for the second term.
I wasn't sure if Barbara was being really passive aggressive or just genuinely friendly
Probably a witty aide wrote it and she just signed it.
that's probably how she wanted it
It's Barbara Bush. C***t is the proper answer to the dilemma.
i think with the second interaction she was being friendly.
Written by a presidential speechwriter
The Virgin "Bush Jr vs Family Guy" vs the Chad "Bush Sr vs The Simpsons"
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So THIS is why they made that episode where George Bush becomes Homer's enemy/neighbor. Makes sense in this context
Apparently Bush now likes the episode, while his wife hates it.
@@randomguyontheinternet7940 That makes even better
Like... Duh.
@@randomguyontheinternet7940 So he's now like "You know what, maybe The Simpsons aren't that bad!"
And then Gerald Ford moved in afterwards. Absolutely hilarious at the end. "Do you like Football?!"
This was clearly in an era where everybody loved The Simpsons and any criticism was a shock.....how times have changed!
Indeed!
Not necessarily. "The Simpsons" was very much seen as "controversial" during the early 1990s because it was the first major animated show since "The Flintstones" that was not aimed at children.
Today loads of people want the Waltons back
I don't know if that was the case in the US, but in Latin America it was common for parents to not let their children watch The Simpsons until very recently
@Depresso Caspico just for some weird conservative parents actually, I think I worded it incorrectly, but it was somewhat usual
There’s kids today who wouldn’t believe the controversy behind this show in the late 80s/early 90s, they couldn’t believe this was considered edgy at one time.
You had politicians, media critics trashed the show, schools were banning Simpsons clothing and it’s considered pretty tame compared to what family guy would do 10 years later.
@@kingkefa7130 Greek. Ptolemaic. She wasn't white skinned. She also was likely mixed. Most Greeks have an olive complexion, dark too. She wasn't the white skinned we think of today. To say she was white is not telling the whole story. She was mixed Greek.
@@TheCandiceWang Greeks ARE white people.
@@TheCandiceWang bro what
I'll never forget the episode from season 1 where Lisa feels sad just because she's sad. I really felt an intimate connection there.
N A I'll never forget how whaling day was an excuse to beat up the Irish, like you need an excuse
I think what people like the Bush Family don’t realize is that the Simpsons are a far more realistic depiction of real American families and that the “family values” image of what a family “should” look like is pretty much impossible to achieve and unrealistic at best.
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And those old sitcoms are boring as hell anyway.
The “family values” narrative is just to push a certain type of family and any deviation from that is demonized. It’s imposing the “ideal family” on everyone.
It's a different generation, Owen. Many people back in the generation of Bush Sr. treasured these traditional, American values.
It doesn't make sense to me to treasure "traditional American values" & shun the Simpsons. In no way was the show encouraging dads to be like Homer for example (though even he generally learned his lesson & was kind-hearted despite being oafish). It had plenty of clean jokes, was realistic for a cartoon, & had a relatable small-town sensibility to it.
the Simpsons as a whole has probably had a bigger cultural impact on not only america but the world than the entire Bush dynasty
A much more positive effect for sure.
More of an effective influence than the hillbilly Waltons
Bush is like a bacteria, Simpsons is like a antibiotics
@@geoffwilliams4478 broken homes. All time high drug addictions and rampant political violence
@The Joker the Waltons were better for America
As a kid I never understood why there was a slight anti Republican and anti fox sentiment on the Simpsons until now.
There's at the minimum a fairly slight anti republican slant to most sensible people, but college aged comedy writers? Forget about it.
*PS where are these college age writers you are talking about?*
In the show, and most comedy shows for that matter. If you study the themes and the jokes made throughout the first 8 years there's a lot of progressive satire in there. Comedy writers are typically left leaning. Right wing comedy is not funny because its usually tasteless and mean, just like the right wing.
*I have been watching this show long before you were even born, little boy.*
Well no you weren't but whatever, the default attempt to turn towards paternalistic condescension shows you have no confidence in your words. They can't stand on their own. You need to assert authority through some other means.
*I have seen them make fun of both sides of the aisle*
Just because you're oblivious to the tendency of progressivism to exist in comedy writing doesn't mean its not there. They made fun of a lot of things inherent to the mainstream of American politics but its inerrant they have been more progressive overall because college aged comedy writers come from a generally progressive sphere because that's where the source of a lot of comedy's power is, in challenging the status quo.
Of course you can also just go watch the National Lampoon documentary and see how many of the people who went on to write for the Simpsons had time in that writing room and also how it influenced many who wrote for the simpsons. Also one more point, making fun of Democrats and Republicans doesn't mean they're not progressive because in the end both sides of the aisle in America are pretty damned conservative overall.
I mean... did you watch the episode about Unions? That's clearly a leftist episode. There is no equivalent right wing episode in the first 8 years. The writers were progressives, period.
*I assert authority over you because you are a little fool.*
Right, so you assert paternalistic condescending authority because you cannot in fact assert points of fact alone, you instead must assume an identity and adversarial relationship with the opponent because the truth isn't in facts or observations, its in feelings and modes of dominance. Like a true reactionary.
*It doesnt matter the political leanings of people who write this show, what matters is what they write.*
How one conceives of things guides how one writes things, particularly when one is a comedy writer. The show is of course littered with witty social commentary that speaks to a left leaning college mindset, as the writers were. In the early years Lisa frequently speaks in a voice of reason for the progressive commentary, her words not being absurd but in fact actually soberly analytical with the humour being to hear it coming from such a young voice. That it was the female who spoke thus is also a standard college feminist attitude.
Consider episodes such as Little Lisa Lionheart, a fairly obviously feminist episode that dealt with perceptions of female identity and how this intersects with corporate consumer culture. Then we can think of the obvious and blatantly leftist example of Lisa criticizing the role of the police in society.
czcams.com/video/0GB1s2aAAhI/video.html
She calls the police a "protective force that maintains the status quo for the wealthy". That's a damned radical sentiment and to even have it expressed on TV is remarkable.
*I have watched this show for years and I know what I am talking about here.*
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_in_The_Simpsons
_"The writers often evince an appreciation for progressive ideals, but the show makes jokes across the political spectrum."_
That's exactly what I said, that they cut everyone down but the general outlook is progressive.
_"The show portrays government and large corporations as callous entities that take advantage of the common worker.[3] Thus, the writers often portray authority figures in an unflattering or negative light. In The Simpsons, politicians are corrupt, ministers such as Reverend Lovejoy are indifferent to churchgoers, and the local police force is both incompetent and corrupt."_
That's a standard post counter culture era outlook, ie. the product of the New Left in America that begin in the 60s, evolved through the anti war movement, was continued into the National Lampoon era, and which lead straight into the Simpsons.
*They poked fun at Bill Clinton every time his character was on the show.*
Poking fun at authority is a very leftist attitude since the left is neither content with the Republicans or the Democrats since they're both right leaning parties. In reality progressivism is critical of authority before it aligns itself with any party affiliation, as it has been since the 60s.
*I am also referring to the classic Simpsons from the 1990s and 2000s here, not the crap from the last several years that you came of age watching.*
Look you're really making yourself look like an idiot because you assumed I am like... a kid because automatic paternalistic condescension mode, but I already said that's not true. I know this isn't true because I grew up watching the original run, ie. the first 8 seasons, the very first run, not the later stuff. I watched the same show you did. I already told you this but you're on autopilot mode I guess. The show was far more radical then than it has been since then. All of its sophisticated social commentary and political ribbing was done in the original run, not the later crap.
*You idiots love to suck the fun out of everything but I am not going to allow you to do so here. Now fuck off!*
Definitely a confused reactionary. Old man yells at cloud indeed.
*And no I don’t watch the Unions.*
So you've never watched what is considered one of the most highly rated and all time greatest episodes of the Simpsons? Who the fuck are you then to be lecturing me on the show? Last Exit from Springfield is in every top 10 list ever compiled for the show.
Good grief calm down people. It is just a TV show for crying out loud!! Is there any petty thing people won’t fight over these days?
It's amazing to see that Marge was the only person who actually handled the situation like a real adult. That's the guy America voted for, folks, a guy who thinks about a fantasy family is the real American family when the Simpsons portrays how families work in a more (semi) realistic manner - they can still be a happy family, even if they're not perfect, like nobody is.
Boy the last 6 years really changes the whole context of this comment
but even George Bush Senior's comment can be contextualized as not a shot against the show itself because clearly Al, Matt & the other show runners are depicting a disfunctional family. Why is it so bad to say you don't want families to be like the Simpsons when they are intended to be portrayed as disfunctional?
@@maxhydekyle2425 for real 💀
You just made the exact same blunder Bush did.
@@maxhydekyle2425Yup. Plus, Bush clearly had speechwriters and probably didn’t know much about either show. 🍊 Voldemort’s delusions come straight from his own warped mind.
"Barbara Bush" sounds like Mrs. Krabappel.
ThunderSooner2835II ha
George Sr sounds like Ned Flanders.
She was really Bush's mother.
I'd say he sounds more like Herman.
I think they got her VA to read Barbara's letter
“Hmm, a Krusty Burger? That doesn’t sound very appealing. What kind of stew do you have today?”
"Uhh, we dont have stew"
The Bush's picked the wrong Television Show to pick a fight with hahaha
Was it really a fight? They said some things and that was that
@@mechajay3358 Not a physical fight (except in the episode) but he still started a dispute with a show that makes fun of things.
Marge s voice is so funny as a narrator.
3:14, and that's why he didn't get a second term
+iHeartRyanStiles You are actually probably right in a way. The world had changed and he never changed with it, America picked the young, hip, jazz playing and weed smoking (not inhaling) Clinton instead.
Nonyabidnez2211 but that's basically every republican, not willing to change with the world
iHeartRyanStiles That is not a general trend. For example, in the recent presidential election there was more diversity among republicans than democrats
+iHeartRyanStiles Oh like you were even alive during the first Bush era or probably just a baby or tot. You have obviously have never met any real Republican either, stupid commie girl.
+Bruno56 LOL you're an idiot.
Americans should be a lot more like the Simpsons, and a lot less like the Bushes & the Clintons!.
Say it again for the people in the back!
Amen. And unlike the greedy omnipotent waltons
They just got off on the wrong foot. It's like the whole Noriega thing -
Now he and George are the best of friends.
*meanwhile, in the sewer*
*George pulls garrote wire from his watch*
George: Here’s a little something we learned in CIA…
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*Bart throws the box of locusts*
Bart: "Get him, boys!"
Be a lot less like the Simpsons? You mean a family that goes to church every Sunday, eats dinner together, and talks openly with one another? Sure there was some edgy (at the time) parts to the Simpsons but they really are a great family and one which shared things I'm sure many families in the 90s wish they had. Now... The Zombie Simpsons on the other hand. We don't need to talk about them.
Marge Simpson for President 2016.
thenamestheygivearedumb I wish!
surprised that was never an episode
DD
Lisa actually won, in the future :)
The Bushes were against The Simpson’s because The Simpson’s can predict the future and the Bushes know that.
3:12 the exact moment when he began a war that he could not possible win.
If he thinks George bush will stay out of the sewer... he doesn't know George bush...
The man never watched the Simpsons in his life!
Or drank a Duff. Wait, wrong prez.
I mean he was busy running the country at the time.
This whole thing from a modern perspective is pretty funny considering simpsons was compared a lot of today's programming very conservative by comparison.
In the simpsons the family unit is still central to the show and the main character Homer atleast in the good seasons despite his lazyness, stupidity and antics still loves his wife and children and his family loves him in turn.
There are a lot of jokes about and tearing down of the idealized traditional sitcom family but the respect for the family unit itself is still very much present in it's golden years.
For sure, also their depiction of religion was always pretty balanced.
I bet fans and creator's of the Simpsons were delighted when Bush got voted out in 92.
I doubt most actually cared
I'd much rather my family be more like The Simpsons than the Waltons.
The Simpson’s is a fantastic parody of not just the US but all humans in general. One of the cleverest shows ever written.
She called the Simpsons the dumbest thing she ever saw......so did Barbara not see her son George W?
More like proud for "winning," at what his daddy couldn't
The Simpsons is the "dumbest thing" in comparison to America's Funniest Home Videos??
Wow, someone has excellent judgement in entertainment!
amazingly enough America Funniest home videos and The Simpsons are still here after 30 years. now both are horribly unfunny!
The "Waltons/Simpsons" line clearly wasn't Bush's thought, but something an aide came up with.
The Simpsons then made the episode about Bush after he failed to get re-elected, and included Bush writing his autobiography with the final line "And because I achieved all my goals in a single term, there was no need for a second" 😂
Looks like the Simpsons outlived them both!
nah simpsons died in the late 90s
@@JCO78 looks like the Bushes outlived the Simpsons! 🙂
Least the Simpsons didn’t kill a woman in a car accident and get away with it because their family was rich. “Oops, did I do that...”
@@yournamehere9024 Also Laura Bush.
Are you referring to Ted Kennedy ?
This makes that episode on George Bush as a neighbour sooo much better
Nowadays people hold the Simpsons as a show that represented a time before the decline of tv and culture, even though when it came out it was seen as a sign of decline of tv and culture, particularly by Archie Bunker-type conservatives and stuck up reaganites
Regardless of the tone the fact the first lady actually sent a letter back would be enough for me!
and that's why President Bush has a clown afro glued to his head
I can’t believe Bush Sr. took it seriously.
3:02-3:14
Homer: And I took that personally.
I don't know who created 'Pokémon Go,' but I am trying to figure out how we get them to have 'Pokémon Go' to the polls
The Waltons were terrible. Sappy and weird.
Long live the Simpsons!
Of all of the weekly cartoon families, where the parents are main characters, Homer and Marge are probably the best parents. They at least try. Sure, they get pushed to their limits, and Homer enjoys choking Bart, but Bart knows what to expect, but pushes Homer anyway. But at The end of the day, they still have great family values.
A bit arguable at times with the jerkass Homer
Maybe the old Homer... the newer Simpsons episode him and everyone else has been Flanderized to hell and back
Genius. Things were so different back then
If bust was correct, there would be no Simpsons...
Guess that explains why its been on for about forty years
i watched that episode where George Bush moves in, and i was just baffled as to why Homer was being such a jerk even though is the golden era, now i know why...
What led to the episode "Two Bad Neighbors".
And in the end the Simpsons continue to live on and on and on
@@MadmanInWaco that's true.
@@MadmanInWaco hahha zing
@@MadmanInWaco zing
Why won't it die?
Bush Sr. was such a Krusty old man.
Jim Brooks RP-ing as Marge and the first lady of the US playing along should be taught in American history classes
1992 what a year
Ruben Dominguez a
Heh, I feel like Barbara Bush wrote that letter thinking she’d just insulted a real-life family.
Seeing someone in the creative process of **that show** must’ve broke the illusion.
Except she saw the cartoon and a drawing of the Simpsons.
"Two bad neighbors" is a great episode
Bush can’t beat anyone. Even a cartoon.
Especially Sadam Hussein
We live in a weird world.
A fictional cartoon acted like a more reasonable adult than an actual person.
Well it looks like they wanted trouble and they got trouble - The Simpsons didn't beat around the Bush - they said their prayers (although the President couldn't force them to like he should!) and were glad to rake his acquaintance all the way out of Springfield!
Rake >>>>> “The horrr-orrrr”‼️😬
What a lovely gem of a story
The Barbra Bush part sounds like Edna Krabapple
The Green family from the Disney's kids' cartoon Big City Greens is yellow like the Simpsons, but are like the Waltons
Who are the Waltons?
The Waltons was a show about a poor family struggling through the Great Depression.
nobodies that didnt stood the test of time
His idiot son LMAO
I think they're talking about the founders of Wal-Mart.
I'm 42 and I remember my parents saying "good night jon boy" but I've never watched an episode of the Waltons. My kids on the other hand sit and watch old episodes of the Simpsons with me.
They are many including the Bushes who realize that times have changed and there is nothing they can do to stop it. They can preach, have speeches, write letters, and criticize; but the 90's and American cultural changes were inevitable. I understand George W Bush sentiments and his message; but he needed to realize that although he has the power to influence American culture he cannot change the inevitable.
Barbara Bush doesn't come across as very intelligent in this!
This makes that episode where George HW Bush movies next door to the Simpsons and gets in a fight with them make so much more sense.
this is exactly the kind of person the simpsons would make fun of, someone boring and self-righteous who says "let me tell you something" as though they're cool
0:38 Alan Wake manuscript
Did Marcia Wallace read the apology letter?
Im born in January 1986.......I hardly know what its like to live in a world where conservativeness is the norm, and liberals get "cancelled". I guess things move in cycles.
Barbara Bush is really sweet. Literally one of the most adorable letters ever sent.
I sincerely doubt that. Rich people, especially high class like the Bush's, are hardly ever pleasant to people like your average Joe. Unless they need your votes.
For the last time Bush, apologize for spanking my boy!!
It has been 31 years since the letter today.
If Barbara bush was talking about the early shorts, I 100% agree with her
For a long time... I thought the Waltons reference was meant as Simpsons vs the Walmart Family. Now that would be epic 🤣🤣😂😂
Who the hell are the Waltons anyways?
A 70's TV show nobody remembers.
I guess Marge has the last laugh!
The Simpsons of old always have a positive message behind all the silliness.
Ugh the waltons was the boringist show on earth
Very Interesting video about Bush Family and The Simpsons.
I mean I guess you don’t want dads strangling their sons like homer does but it is tv lol
And some seasons later. George moves to Springfield and gets into a fight with Homer
Imagine Donald Trump beefing with Rick and Morty lmao
Trump's got his hands full with SNL, FOX News, and Greta Thurnberg.
now Bush is in hell and the simpsons still going
Wait, didn’t the Bushs appear on an episode of the show? They were neighbors or something.
Thank you. I love The Simpsons as a kid in America's home videos. ❤ the letter
Show this to the right-wing snowflakes complaining this show has become “too political” nowadays
The show was always political and took many leads on moral issues, environmental issues, immigration and gay rights. It was more balanced and respectful early on though. The only difference is that the Republican party has devolved so much since then that it's become a lot more slanted against them than it used to be.
Nasty looks and words when meeting a politician face to face is pretty shocking - not the first time I've heard this. When they think no one can overhear, then their public face slips off.
Wow, never knew this was really a thing, as I didn't see too much of The Simpsons back in the day.
Para recordar esto Bush padre había criticado laserie diciendo que la sociedad americana estaba más cerca de los Walton una familia televisiva de los años 50 y situada en los tiempos de la depresión económica que de los Simpson entonces Bart le responde en un espisodio que ellos están más cerca de los Walton por que habían pasado la represión
Those are som powerful words that the elder George Bush said back in those days. I wonder why he didn't choose senator bob dole as his running mate for president? Instead he choose senator dan quayle.
+Derrick Patterson Bob Dole don't need this
+Do NoT AdJuSt YoUr MoNiToR actually he does.
He raised taxes in which that cost him the 1992 election.
0:38 Narrated by Julie Kavner as Marge Simpson
Is that why that Simpson episode was made just for revenge?
Ironically the Simpsons had a bigger cultural impact than the Bush administration.
probably best not to use Dr. Suess as a means to defend yourself. Being a Flame target on forums, I should know.
"The Waltons" are, "The Simpsons".
And Bart destroyed his memoirs.
4:37 I dont think she wrote the letter, pity
she probably never saw the show, besmirched them in print because they wanted some trendy reference and they told her to say this
then she just told a staffer to write a letter for her, or just told them to resolve it and some one on staff thought of rebuttal letter
if she wrote the letter, she wouldn't have flinched from seeing them, because she'd know she could probably think of a witty reply to a writer
Murphy Brown and The Simpsons made George Bush a one term President.
Barb, we can't show any weakness in front of the Russians.
4:23 ewwww Ashcroft!
holy crap, who was the consultant who suggested referencing a show from 2 decades ago?
Bush, we are trailing in the bitter old fart demographic. Try and reference a show nobody under the age of 40 has seen.
jjman9 this was 1990 smh
If it hadn't been for this ep, I never would've heard of The Waltons. I watched this ep when it first came out.
Who’s here after trump’s advisor compared Kamala to Marge?
He did?! 🤣 Link?