First Look at the AirVenturi Avenger BullPup PreCharged Pneumatic (PCP) Air Rifle in .22 cal.
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- When AirVenturi released the Avenger PCP air rifle everyone was impressed by how they managed to put out a regulated, tunable (external reg and hammer spring adjustable) rifle that was ACCURATE at a price point of 300$.
This seemed like a feat that would have been impossible a year or two earlier.
You could pick one up in .177, .22 or .25 and be shooting MOA groups well past 50 yards, and tuning up or down to fit the needs of the situation or chosen pellet.
The rifle was made to hit that price point, and compromises were made. Most people thought the stock felt plasticky, and it did. I have a .177. It shoots lights out with a wide variety of pellets, but it feels cheap. I'm not complaining, but let's be clear. It's a budget friendly gun, and part of what you are paying for is the fit and finish. You aren't paying for it in this rifle, so don't expect to get it. More in a minute.
I'd like to thank our friends at AirVenturi/Pyramyd Air for sending the bullpup version over for us to have a look at!
The bullpup comes to market with an upgraded stock. It may look like the same black plastic, er, polymer, or whatever, but it's a different material and it feels and sounds better than its predecessor. All of the things you liked about the original Avenger are still here, accuracy, adjustable regulator, adjustable hammer spring, but they've added pic rails for flashlights, sling swivel holes, an adjustable (and tool free) buttpad and cheek riser and in-stock magazine storage.
This video does contain a few images of PEST CONTROL. You might not like that. Don't watch. I will say there is no scope camera used, so it's pretty mild. But we believe in fair warning when needed.
Is it accurate? How is the regulator? Does it come in well adjusted? That's what the video is about.
If you come up with questions we didn't think to answer in this review, let us know and we will try to get you the info you need.
Its's nice to see a review that doesn't seen BOUGHT by a manufacturer. Thanks
Thank you!
Nice presentation PJ. Another one for the wishlist. Great job.
Thanks!
Very nice PJ thanks for taking the time to produce the review.
Lets see some PJ Squirrel recipes in action 😃
Thanks Haji!
Haji, we need some new vids from you too! Maybe one on those hicap mags!
Either of you fine gentlemen ever made jerky from squirrel? Seems like it would be good...
@@joshuagibson2520 I have not but I'd give it a try.
@@joshuagibson2520 I never tried to make tree rat jerky... hmmmmmm maybe your on to something here!
Great video sir, the Tatsu works awesome on my. 25 cal avenger
Glad to hear it, or not...🤣
At this price it's as good as bought. I love my Avenger 177cal. Iam sure I'll love this one also.
Thanks brother. Since I already have 20,000 + 177cal pellets and slugs. I guess I'll stick with the 177cal.
Makes sense!
Great review PJ it's dam accurate. i have one and i coveted in 580cc bottle , i shoot H&N baracuda 18 892fps and it gives more than 260 shots per fill
Thats a lot!
That thing shoots very good for a budget pcp, thanks for the video and merry Christmas to you.
And Happy New Year!
Good video, thanks for sharing. From NM, Merry Christmas to you and your family. 👍🇺🇲🤙🇺🇲✌
And Happy New Year to you and yours!
Nice review, thanks! Have really been impressed with the full length Avenger, but hated how LONG it is with a DonyL on the end. Was just too long to get through the woods handily. So when they mentioned a bullpup version I signed up asap. I've never liked the look of a bullpup but this one is winning me over. Just like its longer brother, it's a great shooter! Have had it about a month now, and it's earning its keep.
Mine came with a 3-baffle moderator built in, attached as a part of the barrel cap, and it's quiet enough that I retired the Sumo for now. Super short and still pretty quiet, and I'm loving that. Really handy.
I knurl the fill caps to get a better grip on that smooth surface, and that's been a handy little mod.
Anyway, thanks again, nice job!
A knurled fill port cover would be a plus!
Yep, it's been one of those little improvements that's really helped on both of my Avengers. Takes about 5 minutes on the lathe, and it's super easy to spin them now, even with gloves on. And it looks cool. I leave the knurled portion unpainted bright aluminum. Maybe I should market them! haha Not sure how to send you a photo of one, but I can get one to you somehow if you like.
Anyway, thanks for all you do, I appreciate your videos!
seems a good buy for the money ,a happy newyear .from here
Thank you, and Happy New Year to you as well.
I've found that my original Air Venturi Avenger is too long (especially with the DonnyFL Tanto) and too heavy to shoulder and shoot.
On a table and with the use of a tripod, it's great (extremely accurate and nice trigger), so I appreciate your review of it's little cousin.
Happy New Year!
Glad to help out.
Use a trigger stick they work good
@@WiscAirGunners After figuring that I'd like the bullpup more, I bought it, not realizing that though it is 10" shorter, it actually is HEAVIER than the long rifle!! SURPRISE!!! But I love it anyway , because, like it's big brother, it's a super accurate brad hammer!
@@Rumwhiskey
Thank you - but I really don't want to carry yet another thing. Bad enough I'm carrying a mortgage...
@@usernamemykel They changed the material the stock is made from and I think that's the difference in weight. At least it's a positive change.
Donny is the man!
He is!
Merry Christmas PJ! I discovered your channel from the recent AEAC video. Subscribed 🏁!
Great to have you here!
Just bought this gun to challenge my Nova Vista Liberty .22 which is an absolute tack driver, but the Liberty is a whole lot longer, and heavier with the wood stock. I love my 2 week old Avenger long .25 with the Donny FL adapter and Tanto suppressor. I tried to use my 3D internal baffle system, machined adapter, and after market suppressor that I had in my first gen Avenger that was a year and a half old, but it oddly didn't work so thank goodness for Donny FL. The gun shoots great, and the shorter length makes it a cheaper truck gun than my SK-19 .25 cal, but not nearly as much $$$$ lost if someone were to smash my truck window out, and steal it either also it is just as accurate out to 75 yards or so. I really think Nova Vista is so under rated because of being a Chinese company out of Macau, and not a company with a big name/reputation/advertisements/prestige like boutique brands. I have 3 Liberty's, and the only thing I like about them over the Avenger is that the block is 1 solid piece of material. The Avenger is not, and appears to be a cast component block with a covering? Haven't taken it apart, and only know this from video's..i.e... A.V.S Sport. They are not the same as the 1st gen Liberty. I do wish they would have kept the 1 piece block. That is my only thing is wish they would have keep. Other than my personal preference on the block...this is a heck of a good gun that will hit the 10 ring with authority for a very fair price. Air Venturi was very wise pairing with Nova Vista, and did we shooters a great favor by doing so. Thanks for the video bud. God bless.
Thanks Heath. Have a great weekend.
Trigger pull weight would be nice addition to your reviews of guns.
Some day I hope to get one of the Lyman scales.
Enjoy all your videos. Thanks for all information you gives us new folks in to pcp air guns. GaryB Texas
Glad it helped!
That's a nice setup. Really worth the
price.
I think at the price you have a hard time beating it.
Nice review. Great job pointing out the upgrades and features in a practical sense as well as impressions on the long pull trigger. The improvements made are the reasons I offloaded my Avenger. It wouldn't hold my ATN 4K Pro well at all. Still, I am holding out for a Maverick or Wildcat.
You know how I love the Maverick. The Wildcat is nice too, but the stock and I don't agree.
At that price point it’s a decent actually one of the best out there up there with the Mid-level for now I’m sticking with my wildcat three upgrading to the F X 35 Sometime next year when they’re on the shelf Take Care
Thanks. You too Ben.
Greetings! Thank you for taking your time to explain everything about the Bullpup Avenger, so far is the best video review!!! Very well done!! Bravo Zulu!
Thank you very much. I'm glad you found it to be helpful.
I have this gun and I'm a lefty. There is no problem shooting it left-handed. I had to use tall scope rings but that's no big deal. Side lever is no problem. I have the .25 cal and I think it is a lot quieter than my long Avenger in .25. This rifle loves JSB 25.39's, H&N Crow Magnum and Barracuda Extreme pellets. Tested yesterday, at full air tank fill 48 shots before it gets down to regulator pressure (2800psi). All settings as it came out of the box.
Thanks. Lots of viewers have asked about this as a "lefty friendly" bullpup. Your feedback is appreciated.
I also have the .22 Pup and Crosman 14 g or H and N 21 g 2000 psi and 0 turns on the hammer spring. On the dot at 40 yards and being a lefty doesn't bother me at all.
Great video Pj!! Merry Christmas
Thanks Doug!
Pilled the trigger no pun intended lol I just ordered one in 22 at pyramyd air looking forward to testing it out
Awesome!
Very informative video. Shows what this platform is capable of very well. The barrels from Nova Vista have never in my experience been pellet fussy which is exceptional. I know for a fact they really love Daisy HP 15.27 grain and JSB 18.13s the most. Amazon has the DHPs and .216 dia AVS slugs from eBay are sub MOA at 100 yards out of these barrels.💯🤷♂️ Stephan have a couple of Liberty rifles he designed these slugs for. They shoot phenomenal to be honest. @ A.V.S Sport!👍 Hope this helps y’all. God bless.
Great info...Thanks!
Great review pj,merry Christmas and a happy new years
Thanks. You too!
Beautiful video and beautiful rifle I want it; she is beautiful having had the Avenger that they do a bullpup It's the best
I'm sure it will be a nice addition to your collection.
Awwwww yeah brother
Happy New Year!
Very detailed review you covered all the questions I may have had concerning accessories thank you so much I'm subscribing to your channel for sure 😊
Awesome! Glad to help out.
Going be my first PCP air rifle
Enjoy!
very cool
Thanks.
Great review I gave you a sub . And that was a good video you did with Steve. Great details in all the vid I’ve seen you do keep them coming and be safe
Thank you very much!
Definitely thinking about this one myself. Coming from break barrel any PCP is gonna be nice. Unfortunately ive got no air source and the county I live in does not allow a person to get a tank filled unless ur "scuba certfied" yup that means I buy a gun AND a compressor
That's tough. Have you looked into having a retired SCBA tank from a fire department? Sometimes volunteer fire departments will hook a guy up.
Buy a compressor and charge other people to fill there guns or tanks win win. 😅
Nice review of the avenger bull pup. I wonder how well it works for a southpaw? I like the looks and the advantages of bull pups in general. Never went the bull pup route, due to that most seem to be uncomfortable for lefty shooters.
I think it can be used lefty. You'll be breaking your cheek weld to cock it, but at least you wont be eating the magazine or lever. There are other bullpups that are more left friendly, the Walther Reign comes to mind.
@@WiscAirGunners I’ve looked into the reign, the only thing I can see is that the moderator is permanently affixed, and loud. Im looking pretty close at getting a caliber gun cricket mini, it has a more forward cocking lever, and adjustable cheekweld. And yes about twice the cost of the reign lol.
@@gregkollasch5494 If you are willing to send it out Izzy at @DonnyFL can remove the stock moderator and machine the parts so you can fit a Koi, and it is a whole different rifle. I shot one he'd worked on two weeks ago and I couldn't believe the difference.
I'm a lefty and have the Ava Pup .22 and have no issues with it and very comfy.
I’ve been trying to get my hands on one of those for quite a while. And every website has them as pre-order.
Airgun Depot seems to have them in stock as of today. Utah Airguns was "pre-order."
I really like it. Being a left handed shooter, I'm not sure it will work for me.
Just hold it upside down.
@@usernamemykel lol.
@@usernamemykel that’s some funny shit 👍
Randy Griffin
Works for me…
I can shoulder it lefty and see down the scope. The cocking handle is under your chin and the magazine is out of your way.
It looks like a big gun.
Good sized for a bullpup. Definitely not a compact.
Don't know if you said and I missed it but how many shots per fill is it getting on average?
I have not run a full string. Based on where the reg is set I think it's easily 30-40 and maybe more.
On my avenger.22 before I sent it back to P.A. reg set at 2000psi I got about 80 good shots.
Seneca makes a nice shotgun ! Got one few mths back ! It damn sure stop a turkey ! Mine might be a Lil power tuned lol !
Hit those turkeys!
PJ is the barrel on bull pup 22 cal identical in every way including twist with air Venturi avender rifle. Thanks
GaryB Texas
There is something different about how it is supported, but I think the actual barrel is the same.
Is the stock material more like the Origin this time around?
I'd say not exactly the same but much closer.
Hi, from South Africa😁Your's was the first review I've watched on this one. Thanks very much. Got mine and I'm wondering if you found it tedious finding a bag or case to fit it with a scope sitting up on its high throne?
I have a Flambeau case that works, and I think Plano makes one about the same size, but I don't know if those are available in SA.
Hey I found out you can take them four washers off that trigger bolt and get a sweet trigger try it it blew my mind
Cool!
Thanks Great review I’ve been wanting a bulpup version of the avenger since it came out. can’t wait to get mine in January is the trigger adjustable?
It does have adjustments, but I haven't played with them. As a bullpup the trigger interfaces with the sear via a bar, so there is going to be some flex and therefor less crispy goodness.
@@WiscAirGunners Lol. Crispy goodness. You made a funny.
Is it better than the Maverick?
No, but significantly less expensive.
@@WiscAirGunners As long as it doesn’t brake the bank, it will kill stuff & cow manure wipes off easy... then it’s pretty good 👍
@@terminadorairgunsandoutdoors That's a good combo!
can you please tell me the exact model of the Hawk scope, thanks
Where did you bought it I am trying to get one but still till next month?
Mine came from Pyramyd Air.
Which hawk scope are you running on it thanks bro
Hawke 4-16x50 FFP AirMax
I appreciate your help, I'm new to airguns. I am in the process of buying the Air Venturi Avenger Bullpup. Based on your experience, which caliber do you recommend .22 or .25?
I like the .22. You have a few more ammo choices and you get 500 in a tin vs 350. If most of what I planned to shoot was over 50 yards and bigger than a squirrel or rabbit (skunks or raccoons) I'd go with .25.
Thank you very much, it has been of great help.
PJ have you seen the AIR VENTURI AVENGER BULLPUP REAR PICATINNY RAIL SUPPORT sold on eBay?
Any thoughts on its potential effectiveness?
Thanks for your honest straight up no drama reviews. Much appreciated
Glad to help out. I have not seen it but will check it out.
I had a look. I'm not seeing appreciable flex in my rail, but I suppose something like this couldn't hurt.
Hey PJ how’s it going? Is that stock one piece or multiple pieces like the rifle ?
Mine is out on an extended loan, but I’m pretty certain it’s one piece.
Is it regulated fully tuneable?
It is regulated and you can adjust the regulator and hammer spring.
Greetings, can you tell me the model of the Donny that you use in the Air Venturi Avenger Bullpup .22 rifle
I have the .22/25 Sumo on right now. I found that it also responded well to the Tatsu.
1/2 x 20 endcap or M14 x 1.25 endcap?
@@joseseijo7643 1/2x20 UNF thread
@@WiscAirGunners Thanks
Question I didn't bother with a moderator it seems prity quiet as is is there any other benefits to moderating this gun
I found that I could bring the muzzle report down a bit on more powerful tunes, and the right one (in my case a Tatsu) resulted in better accuracy.
Thanks for clearing that up@@WiscAirGunners
Why did you shoot a group with your FX and then shoot a group with the avenger and no wind of course and with a scope Cam so we can make sure that you’re doing your job right. I think you’re gonna find out the avenger she’s a better group than an impact
Greetings, could you tell me the brand and model of the scope you use on this rifle.
Hawke 4-16x50 FFP AirMax
@@WiscAirGunners Thanks
Excellent review. How is it for a leftie ?
I think the magazine is OK, but the lever might be bothersome. You'll have to pull it away from your face to cock, but I find I do that anyway as a righty...so not much difference there.
I'd try to get one in hand to assess where your face sits before I'd make a decision.
Greetings, to the adapter for the DonnyFL (Sumo), do I have to put an o-ring?
What do you use to maintain the bullpup?
No o-rings needed.
Very little. I clean the barrel with Ballistol occasionally and wipe it down if it gets dirty in the field.
@@WiscAirGunners thanks
Nice video and review I have been looking into getting a bullpup air rifle the two that's on tested ground for me is this avenger or the hatsan flashpup which do you recommend for small to medium game
I've heard good things about the Hatsan, but the Avenger will give you a few more options in tuning if that appeals to you. If you are thinking medium I'd go with a .25.
what is reg pressure set at and how many turns in or out is hammer spring
How many shots count in .25 your can had
I don't have a .25, but the spec sheet on the factory tune is 25, probably just over two magazines. You could tune it to get more.
Is it comfortable to shoot left handed?
Probably the most common question I've been asked. I may have to find a lefty airgunner and do a video on that. The short answer is it might be OK. The cocking lever is going to be against your fave. Whether or not that is a problem is individual preference. The magazine will not be an issue. The cocking mechanism, because it's at the rear will require you to pull the gun away from your face for cocking, but righty's will be doing the same thing, so I don't see that as a deal breaker.
what does the gun weigh in at with all the accessories on it?
Got the ok for the "bullvenger" but I need a compressor and im clueless. Any advice that wont break the bank? Haha please
I have the Hill EC1300. It's the workhorse and has given me no problems in about a year and a half.
I also have a Nomad 2 for road trips, and I've not yet encountered a hiccup. Both came from Pyramyd Air.
I'm hearing good things about the new AirMarksman brought in by Utah Airguns, and they have stood by everything I've gotten from them.
This is my advice. You want a domestic retailer who will remedy any problem you might have with the unit that is shipped to you. Pay attention to the warranty period. Ask if they will service a unit that is out of warranty. Understand that if it's 90 days and they do not service it, you are on your own. I don't service such machines myself...I don't have that skill set. So I'm going to spend more so if there is a problem I don't just have to chuck it and hope for better next time.
Thank u so much for the info. Thats just one of the reasons this is my favorite channel.
@@braddenty503 Wow. Thanks for that!
How strong do you think that spindly rail will be over time? Looks like the weak link in the platform.
It's made out of some sort of metal. I'd avoid dropping it scope first off a truck (don't ask) but I don't see it having issues from normal use and mild abuse.
@@WiscAirGunners How far above center of bore is the center of the optic tube? I'd like to input some theoretical data in to my ballistic calculator and see how far out the pellet stays below line of sight.
@@Backin_Theday If I assume that the scope is optically centered, three inches.
@@WiscAirGunners Thank you.
Greetings, you have used slugs on this rifle. If so, which one did you use?
I have not yet tried any slugs in it.
@@WiscAirGunners ok, thanks
How many psi does the rifle charge? Do you made some changes to it.
It can take a 300 bar fill.
@@WiscAirGunners Thanks
@@joseseijo7643 Glad to help.
300 bar (3451 psi)
Any other Bullpups you'd recommend as much as this sub $500?
You've got options from Hatsan and Kral, but I don't have hands on time with those, so I'd be hesitant to recommend something I haven't shot.
@@WiscAirGunners fair enough. Are they regulated?
@@ArizonaMMJ I don't think either of their sub-500$ bullpups are regulated.
Why don’t you do 100 yard video with a scope cam between the avenger and an FX in the wind of course. But it’s got to be with a scope cam so we could see exactly what you’re doing. Hey I’m also doing a show on saber tactical why if everything is made in China why is everything so expensive.
i been wondering if yhis air gun can kill big animal such as wild boar.not a singgle riview about big game on youtube
I would say no. A .25 cal might handle a small pig but there are other airguns at energy levels for animals like a boar.
👍🤗
Thanks!
You gonna eat what you kill right??? #hunterscode
And another funny thing is most of you FX guys put down Chinese guns you call them entry-level which I have proven or not. But you’ll saw that saber tech junk that’s made in China and Donnie FL which his prices should be cut in half and everything he sells because his stuff is made in China. Some of his suppressors cost more than a whole air gun you could buy a Beeman QB chief which by the way out shoots and affects and packed with pallets for under $200 in a lot of Donny FL suppressors are close to over $200. Even his little cheaper for $99 that should be 40 bucks. What is it going to say the shipping to US is a lot they ship a whole Airgun to the US and they sell it for under $200 A whole gun this is just another case of greed I think overtime these videos I’m doing will gain a lot of momentum they already are. More than 20,000 people have seen my video on FX liners and have checked their liners. Saw how many deviations there are in them. And have contacted fx
I think you've been bought out.
take a job
Ok?
Show The Target 🎯 your not as fun to watch 😉
Next one has two cameras rolling. Hopefully that will help out.
Watching you pull trigger instead of impact of shot is boring and just wrong. Sorry but honesty is the best policy. Plus to much talk and not enough action!
I'd say you're in the minority, but I appreciate your viewpoint.
Unfortunately the day I had free to film was not a day I was willing to put a camera outside in the weather. Hopefully I'll have something to review that is more to your liking when the weather is more agreeable.
It's been at least 365 days, have you found a CZcams channel that you enjoy?
@@lt1nut absolutely