Currently driving(owning) one for 1 week,LPG version.It's a nice car,if you don't have high expectations.The engine is surprisingly torqy,considering 1 liter capacity.I'm still learning to drive a petrol engine,as I used to drive diesels for very long time.Yes,I'd be more happy if they had a diesel to offer,but it is what it is.It's pretty decent looking car, lots of positive feedback from a strangers.I think is a lot of car,what you pay for.The manual transmission could be smoother.I find it a little bit rough.
Dacia will sell A LOT of this car. Of course a used more comfortable car would be the better choice if you wanted to travel with it. But used cars are so expensive at the moment that the Jogger might be the better choice for just commuting to work an driving your kids to football matches on weekends.
For that one you don't need a new, uncomfortable car. First of all, the wait period is huge. Secondly, you can still get used MPVs for less than the money for a Jogger, and they are way more comfortable.
"Some people just choose to keep the money in their pockets, but I'll just choose comfort and safety...". Marek, some people only have so much money so as not to have a choice. Driving assistants are certainly a gain for road safety, although I cannot escape the feeling that some individuals strongly believe that complete morons have suddenly a right to get behind the wheel, just because there are safety systems in place and they no longer have to be sober, keep their eyes on the road and drive carefully... Anyway, keep up the good work and don't loose the perspective.
Dacia should have allowed consumers to choose those features (or not)...As for the 1.3 TCe motor, to undertake safely with full load (or not)... We are talking of a 2022 brand new car, without losing the perspective of used cars market available to all pockets (hence Carvago?).
good review. I test drove one and liked the long wheelbase but was oddly noisy at motorway speeds. The engine is better in real life than the figures suggest and best when ragged hard.... but fuel economy suffers and it would soon get tiresome on a long journey. I bet if Dacia put the 1.3L Tce engine in this the story would be different. I think the build quality is currently the best that Dacia has done. I am very tempted to see what the Bigster is like when that comes out.
0-100 km Dacia claim 11.2 you got 12.2. Other testers on review have achieved 10.8. Clearly it depends on whose driving. Just like all individuals have different views, other reviewers have not been so scaithing about the car and how it drives. Infact some more popular review sites have remarked how good the Jogger was, whilst your review has has criticised and contradicted those positive view points. To many people this car is an opportunity to own a new family car to be proud of. At a price they can achieve. In truth Dacia cars are the modern "Volks" - wagon that people can afford. It might be better if you review only cars that have a €35,000 price tag in future.
So, with all due respect to Matt Watson of Carwow... Dacia UK quotes 0-62 mph time of 11.2 seconds, not 0-60 mph. www.dacia.co.uk/vehicles/jogger/specifications.html 60 mph is 96.5 km/h. I checked my measurements (I use the same Racebox device Matt uses, just set to km/h) and there's around 0.7 seconds from 96.5 to 100 km/h. So he would have got 11.5/6 0-62 mph. The rest we can attribute to my sloppy gear change :) As for the rest... How easy it is to be the people's tribune, who recommends cheap cars, he will never have to drive on daily basis.
Also, Matt Watson looks like he is carrying a few kgs less than yourself. Power to weight ratio and all that. No offence intended. :-) Basically, it's as slow as the Logan MCVII, which is slow, and a lot more expensive than the Logan. €28k for the base version in Ireland.
I don't know how comfortable are the seats in the Jogger, but I travelled in the back seats of a Mercedes Gle coupe, more than 300 Hp, a beast of a car, and I can say that I never get back in it. Of course you get what you pay. It the same with every car, but 2 times the price I don't think you get 2 times the quality.
Glad you've got the money to spend an Extra £10000 on an upgraded car. But some of us Don't, and truly for £16000 a car with 3yr warranty and you've got it for 10yrs, that's a Bargain. 🍺🍺
By the way, you could store the roll cover for the boot by removing the plastic grill on the right side of the trunk. That should fit transversally there. Just found it in the manual ;)
In 7 seats configuration it would be a good "school bus" for smaller communities. Otherwise I would choose the Logan or the Sandero Stepway instead. Thank you for the review!
I don't get it why Dacia used the 1.0L turnbo engine in a 7 seater vehicle instead of the 1.33L great engine they already use in the Duster as a manual or an automatic. Go figure 🤷♂️
Thanks. Finally a decent review, without praising “you get a lot of car for that money”. Made me think probably it is not a good choice to carry my family (two kids and a dog) for a mid distance trips, like Riga to Warsaw.
There’s a video to be made on how small family cars may have made people restrict family size to 2-3 children. Would cheaper, maybe subsidised, seven seaters encourage a higher birth rate in Europe?
I wouldn't say that. There are models like the VW Sharan, Seat Alhambra, Opel Zafira, Ford Galaxy etc. that are able to accommodate larger families and are not that expensive(at least for western Europe standards). There is a video to be made though on how such models are being fazed out to be replaced by less practical, less economical and more expensive SUV's and how this trend is more controlled by the manufacturers rather than by what the customer wants or needs. At least this is how I see it.
@@markmd9 if you have more than 3 or 4 children at this point might as well get an actual van with seats because while you can seat them in a big nirmal car it wont be very comfortable. Also if you need to take any other adults you will have nowhere to put them and thats before we get to stuffing all their luggage. In that regard 2 to 3 children can be considered a fairly big family for having to fit them in a minivan. Also... Stop making so many children idk condoms or just pull Out and you can drive smaller cars 😅
Thanks for the review Marek. Always appreciate your point of view. The 1 star rating is very disappointing, but it's probably an improvement if you're coming from a much older car. Whether to buy this over a used car would depend on the buyer - warranty, reliability etc. Like you said, you get what you pay for. I like that there's a factory LPG option, I wish more car makers offered this.
As safety regulations become tougher, this may still be Dacia's safest car to date. Unfortunately for Dacia everyone else is also moving forward. I see this car used especially in rural areas on short-to-medium distances, and then it totally makes sense. Chuck whatever in the boot, drive on whatever road surface. As long as repairs are cheap, you can run this thing into the ground.
Sometimes I would be interested in how the cargo area looks like, when the rear seats AND the passenger frontseat are folded (even when there’s no satisfiying flat area). Apart from this I really appreciate your absolutely critical and honest reviews. And not to forget mildly amusing ;) Kidding aside, I am a huge fan of your presenting, humor, filming and cutting. And that you are regularly reviewing affordable cars too. Big compliment.
I think it's good for what you get. But I want comfort, comfort is a must for me. Me my partner and 4 kids drove from UK to Portugal in our Zafira B 2008 modal and on the way back home through Spain we decided to go to Lithuania and then back to UK all round trip 6000 miles so confort is a must but the gear box die in uk this is a the weak point on the Zafira would not recommend ever buying a Zafira buy the way. Also we went camping ever 2 weeks in uk during the summer period racking up even more mileage. So again comfort is a must.
I've had dreadful problems with mine. The main ones: 1. Power loss after idling for a few minutes in traffic. Turbo will not engage/spool up when pulling away. No warning lights, smoothly up through the revs, but no power at all. 2. All warning lights come on at once, power cuts, steering goes heavy and after a few seconds the car restarts. This happens whilst driving. Very scary. 3. Bad noise (like a bad bearing) when using AC that rises with the rpm, and continues after the rpm of the engine has dropped again (like when pulling up to a junction, slowing down) for a few seconds - like an overrun. Dacia replaced the AC compressor but still has not fixed. Getting worse and was not there from new.
I think that there is potentially a very big market for the Jogger. As long as people understand why it has a 1 star crash avoidance rating. Thanks for converting metric fuel consumption to imperial by the way, it saves me using the calculator or Siri/Alexa.
It's not just crash avoidance. If you look at Euro NCAP results, the Jogger also scores quite low in the occupants protection department, not just safety equipment. Also, some of the driver aids are supposed to help prevent the crash in the first place. Only lower scoring cars in recent years were Dacia Spring and Renault Zoe. Going further back we're looking at Jeep Wrangler and Fiat Panda. www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/latest-safety-ratings/#?selectedMake=0&selectedMakeName=Select%20a%20make&selectedModel=0&selectedStar=&includeFullSafetyPackage=true&includeStandardSafetyPackage=true&selectedModelName=All&selectedProtocols=45155,41776&selectedClasses=1202,1199,1201,1196,1205,1203,1198,1179,40250,1197,1204,1180,34736,44997&allClasses=true&allProtocols=false&allDriverAssistanceTechnologies=false&selectedDriverAssistanceTechnologies=&thirdRowFitment=false
@@MarekDrivesENG Renault are making a big fuss about this, as reported in the motoring press. They do not agree at all with the euroncap’s current scoring methods.
@@MarekDrivesENG Exactly one of the points they make, plus they claim that one of the poor performers in terms of score in the latest test, I forget which, is the safest car in an actual crash that they have ever built.
@@hedydd2 yes, that's what I said in the review. They claim the Jogger is the safest car they ever made. It's based on the Sandero, which scored 2 stars. Allegedly this one would also score 2 stars, had it not been a 7-seater, which doesn't have third row seat belt sensors. A lame excuse, if I'm honest. It's like saying "they car's shit, but not THAT MUCH shit". Also adult and child occupant protection is among the lowest in years, so it may be a safe(ish) Dacia, but not a safe car in general.
The 1 star NCAP score is because of unnecessary and unreliable electronic gadgets that people will turn off, not because it's structurally unsafe. In fact it's structurally the same as a Sandero which received 4 stars. Good on Dacia for saving us the money, which in the end is what most buyers will actually care about, even if Marek personally disagrees.
@@MarekDrivesENG Fours stars for adult occupant and child occupant protection though. "And if it was only rated for its crash protection, then it would have probably been “a four-star performer”, according to Euro NCAP." You made me look at the report in detail and they actually lost points for not having ACC or isofix mounts in the rear middle seat. I'm sorry but those are convenience features that you either need or don't need, nothing to do with safety. But now car makers include gimmicks like ACC as standard even in cheaper new cars, so they score high on the NCAP so car journalists such as yourself don't trash them in the reviews, in effect making new cars unaffordable for more people that never cared about those things in the first place. I bet in a few years they'll deduct points for manual handbrakes because you might forget to put them on or something idiotic like that. On the other hand I never see them deduct points for SUVs that roll over incredibly easily in a swerve or minor side impact. It's not part of their rating yet ACC is.
Euro NCAP doesn't award stars per category. The star rating is for all the categories combined. Anyway, the adult occupants protection level is among the lowest in recent years. Also, as this is a family car, wouldn't you expect it to be safe for children?
Very nice rewiew. You are doing a splendid job. About the car i am a person that i would buy this kind of a car and apreciate what IT ofers and don't care about other non esențial quizmoz.
Dacia confirmed a camper version of the Jogger will be available next year. god knows how they will do that unless the roof elevates up like a T5 camper !
I think many large families are unlikely to go on holiday in the Jogger because with 7 people on board, the boot would be too small. It would probably make a good taxi. Skoda should be in this market and Kia too.
@MarekDrivesENG well....no..cus I don't know the dimensions of that case! Why can't people who are reviewing a car not just give the width, height n depths of a cars boot?
Don't look ata the badge isn't Romanian is more likely Moroccan,Morocco made Dacia, full with flaws and non functional parts, in case of damage or minor collision owner is left alone because no parts for this very badly made of a car.
The rear seats on Dacias always look a bit flat to me. Would you want to do 300 miles sat on them ? The front seats look fine, but I havn't sat in a Dacia for some years so I don't know.
Let me put it this way: I drove my mother in law in this car for 350 kilometers. She was sitting in the back, and she wasn't impressed :) We picked her up in our Countryman (which is hardly a GT), and she was singing praise about it, also complaining how the Jogger was too loud and uncomfortable for her.
Because of the noise you have to keep attention on the road?? Pleasealways keep attention on the road. I drive a 7 year old Peugeot Partner. It's has a lot less safety featres and is a lot noisier on the road. Yet I have no problem riding it 1000km in one day...
No, I said the droning noise gets tedious after some time, and it's getting harder to pay attention. Therefore I'd rather have a quieter car, and also I like some driver aids, because thanks to them I'm less tired during long journeys. 1k km during one day? I'm not going to say "good for you", because you're probably endangering yourself, your passengers, and other people on the road.
I would probably not buy a Dacia in the first place, but assuming I do not need the third row and this much cargo space, I'd consider the Duster or the Sandero (if I didn't need AWD either).
@@MarekDrivesENG hi it has changed a lot as it now has 0 ncap stars plus you only reviewd the 4 x4 panda , so now you can review the fiat panda sport please
The second row has to have seatbelt sensors, so the connectors would have to be integrated in the mounting system so that the user doesn't tear them out, when removing the seats. There's probably a click-to-connect cable joint, but that still could get damaged, when a person is dealing with a heavy back seat.
I think you said what needs to be said. You get what you pay for. If I were in the market for a 7-seater and REALLY wanted a brand-new car to impress my neighbours (little nudge at one of my own neighbours), but wasn't interested in little details like how it drives...I think I'd still have qualms, mostly because there's NO DIESEL. Instead I'd look for something like a used VW Caddy people-carrier variant (yes VERY used for the same money...) and bag myself something that is superior in every respect. As others have commented, this car will be filling the streets of some eastern european cities in a couple of years time, in yellow livery - the best thing being that it's a cheap 7-seater and passengers will only ever need to experience it for a few minutes at a time. In my neck of the woods in England, minicab drivers will stick to their (diesel) Skodas instead, which DO feel nice to be in. I'm no VAG fanboy (meaning - I think VAG are dreadful pirates like many other car makers, apt to destroy suppliers for a penny in cost saving), but they do have knack for making cars that are nice to be in (thanks to their systems / module suppliers, of course - the same suppliers who struggle for pennies in profit - I used to work for one such supplier - VAG was the rock-bottom-price benchmark that other customers used to clobber us with...). My only experience of Dacia was a few years ago when I had a Sandero Stepway as a Renault dealer courtesy car. It may have looked OK from the outside. but the inside was like somebody had taken random Renault parts and scattered them around in a slightly larger space than they were intended for. The driving position was weird - it had a height-adjustable driver's seat, but this only had two positions: completely up or completely down, operated on a spring - completely pointless, really. I was either far too low or far too high. The ONLY half-decent aspect of the driving experience was the DIESEL engine, which gave me an acceptable 55mpg, albeit with the same sensation of a throttle pedal connected to an elastic band as I experienced in a Mk4 Clio DCI a year previously. It would go, but lacked the urgency of my Mk3 Clio DCI106 (may she rest in pieces - I mean peace - the victim of a collisdion with a van - now replaced by a Fiesta Econetic which is just NOT as comfortable, or as peppy, or as spacious or as robust as the old Clio, but gives me 70mpg vs the 63mpg I had from the Clio).
Well, Dacia is a workhorse in general. It's for those who don't mind 'riding' to their destination instead of very relaxed or very angry driving... or just driving in general on long distances. It is not a good choice for those with 'fragile bones', they'll develop calluses quickly. But it is honest and affordable .. and rather reliable these days.
Misses the point entirely. The only Jogger review I've watched that focuses on the negatives. Not everyone has £40,000 or wants to PCP thousands to dealerships.
My argument in this situation is: drive the Jogger and the Touran across Europe for vacation. You'll see where the money went. And sure, when I was in my 20s, early 30s I could do a 15 hour stint behind the wheel, and go party at the end of the journey, but these days are long gone. After 4 hours in the Jogger I was seriously considered driving it into a wall at high speed to end my misery :)
@@MarekDrivesENG I had a Touran for nearly 4 years, and it was a comfortable car to do some distance in. I get your point, I can imagine the Jogger isn't nearly as comfortable on long journeys. Although I expect it would be my middle row passengers making me want to prematurely end the journey. May well get a Jogger, so it'll be an interesting comparison.
I am working an living in Romania, I was born in Romania from romanian parents and I bought a... Hyundai. So yeah, that's my oppinion on Dacia generally spaking.
@@MarekDrivesENG A lot of Dacia are made here and some Fords, Puma being one of them, none of which is under the government control. We just can't make good cars, I think we'll better stick to programming, textiles and shoes.
@@10mbc What you said it kinda irrelevant. I also am Romanian and I don't have a Dacia. But that is because I wanted and I could afford something better, not because Dacia is a bad car. They make decent cars, a little bit expensive if you ask me (culminating with the Spring with a price tag of 20K which is purely madness) but the most important, quite reliable cars. There are a lot of Dacia Logan first generation is use today, most of them with no major problems. And the NCAP test is a joke form my perspective because is no longer a crash test, but a test of how much of electronic driver assists the car has. Or, as I say: "anti stupidity sistems". :D
1 star rating? So poor people are not worth saving? LOL Ok then. Poor people, don't go on the highway. Save yourself. And are we all gypsies with 7 kids? Put anchor points everywhere including the driver's seat!! Then you can have your kid on your lap the old school way. Thanks for another great video Marek!
To quote the Canadian-Jewish bard Leonard Cohen "everybody knows the fight was fixed, the poor stay poor, the rich get rich..." Also, on the crash safety note, I recently learned the band Crash Test Dummies is Canadian.
@KevinN he was quite popular in Poland in the 1980s. Our late neighbour (an artist himself) did a great job translating Cohen's songs, which he later sang. He also had that rough voice, so it sounded right. Personally I prefer original Cohen, up to and including I'm Your Man.
Checked it out at local dealer few weeks ago. Not impressed. Cost cutting in massive. Windows are small, especially front window, resulting in terrible visibility. Hard plastic everywhere of the lowest possible quality. If you are low on money, get a slightly used minivan for the same price - it will be more enjoyable to drive and might even last longer.
Currently driving(owning) one for 1 week,LPG version.It's a nice car,if you don't have high expectations.The engine is surprisingly torqy,considering 1 liter capacity.I'm still learning to drive a petrol engine,as I used to drive diesels for very long time.Yes,I'd be more happy if they had a diesel to offer,but it is what it is.It's pretty decent looking car, lots of positive feedback from a strangers.I think is a lot of car,what you pay for.The manual transmission could be smoother.I find it a little bit rough.
Dacia will sell A LOT of this car. Of course a used more comfortable car would be the better choice if you wanted to travel with it. But used cars are so expensive at the moment that the Jogger might be the better choice for just commuting to work an driving your kids to football matches on weekends.
For that one you don't need a new, uncomfortable car. First of all, the wait period is huge. Secondly, you can still get used MPVs for less than the money for a Jogger, and they are way more comfortable.
1:20 all engines currently available on the jogger are turbocharged
Exactly
Imagine it as 1 litre NA.. with LPG.. that would be “safety concern slow”.
Dacia used the 1.0L turnbo engine for both engine, one is using LPG. On this model don't used "natural aspirated engine". 🙂
Yeah, he made a mistake there. Both the LPG and non LPG versions use 1.0 TCe engine. The 1.6 naturally aspirated engine is reserved for the hybrid.
"Some people just choose to keep the money in their pockets, but I'll just choose comfort and safety...".
Marek, some people only have so much money so as not to have a choice.
Driving assistants are certainly a gain for road safety, although I cannot escape the feeling that some individuals strongly believe that complete morons have suddenly a right to get behind the wheel, just because there are safety systems in place and they no longer have to be sober, keep their eyes on the road and drive carefully...
Anyway, keep up the good work and don't loose the perspective.
Dacia should have allowed consumers to choose those features (or not)...As for the 1.3 TCe motor, to undertake safely with full load (or not)... We are talking of a 2022 brand new car, without losing the perspective of used cars market available to all pockets (hence Carvago?).
@@j.v.f.8736 It will have a 1.6 hybrid for safe undertaking ;)
@@Werewolt Actually with a tricilindric 1.2
@@j.v.f.8736 yup, even 1.0, I'd not buy it. I guess they put what they have to test the market and better engines will appear in a year or two.
@@Werewolt Whatever Renault may tell
good review.
I test drove one and liked the long wheelbase but was oddly noisy at motorway speeds.
The engine is better in real life than the figures suggest and best when ragged hard.... but fuel economy suffers and it would soon get tiresome on a long journey.
I bet if Dacia put the 1.3L Tce engine in this the story would be different.
I think the build quality is currently the best that Dacia has done.
I am very tempted to see what the Bigster is like when that comes out.
This Dacia is the Eastern Europe taxi wet dream 😂😅 Sofia will be flooded with those in bright yellow in a year, I''m sure of it.
Looks like Volvo from behind ,not bad at all.
0-100 km Dacia claim 11.2 you got 12.2.
Other testers on review have achieved 10.8.
Clearly it depends on whose driving.
Just like all individuals have different views, other reviewers have not been so scaithing about the car and how it drives.
Infact some more popular review sites have remarked how good the Jogger was, whilst your review has has criticised and contradicted those positive view points.
To many people this car is an opportunity to own a new family car to be proud of. At a price they can achieve.
In truth Dacia cars are the modern "Volks" - wagon that people can afford.
It might be better if you review only cars that have a €35,000 price tag in future.
Can you point me to someone, who achieved 10.8? Was it done with a GPS device or based on the speedo readout? Also, was it 0-100 km/h or 0-60 mph?
@@MarekDrivesENG carwow Matt Watson car reviews
So, with all due respect to Matt Watson of Carwow...
Dacia UK quotes 0-62 mph time of 11.2 seconds, not 0-60 mph.
www.dacia.co.uk/vehicles/jogger/specifications.html
60 mph is 96.5 km/h. I checked my measurements (I use the same Racebox device Matt uses, just set to km/h) and there's around 0.7 seconds from 96.5 to 100 km/h. So he would have got 11.5/6 0-62 mph. The rest we can attribute to my sloppy gear change :)
As for the rest... How easy it is to be the people's tribune, who recommends cheap cars, he will never have to drive on daily basis.
Also, Matt Watson looks like he is carrying a few kgs less than yourself.
Power to weight ratio and all that.
No offence intended. :-)
Basically, it's as slow as the Logan MCVII, which is slow, and a lot more expensive than the Logan.
€28k for the base version in Ireland.
Great review pointed out flaws that others miss. I appreciate the noise and long road journey factors
That's what I do. I complain about stuff ;)
I don't know how comfortable are the seats in the Jogger, but I travelled in the back seats of a Mercedes Gle coupe, more than 300 Hp, a beast of a car, and I can say that I never get back in it. Of course you get what you pay. It the same with every car, but 2 times the price I don't think you get 2 times the quality.
Glad you've got the money to spend an Extra £10000 on an upgraded car.
But some of us Don't, and truly for £16000 a car with 3yr warranty and you've got it for 10yrs, that's a Bargain.
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Only time (and sales figures) will tell who is right :) Honestly, it is a sensible car making sense to many people (me included)
I see plenty of Lodgys(ies?) around Warsaw. I have no doubt this will be a popular car, because money.
By the way, you could store the roll cover for the boot by removing the plastic grill on the right side of the trunk. That should fit transversally there. Just found it in the manual ;)
That seems like a bit of an afterthought.
In 7 seats configuration it would be a good "school bus" for smaller communities.
Otherwise I would choose the Logan or the Sandero Stepway instead.
Thank you for the review!
Totally agree!
As a taxi driver I'll wait to see hybrid next yr
I don't get it why Dacia used the 1.0L turnbo engine in a 7 seater vehicle instead of the 1.33L great engine they already use in the Duster as a manual or an automatic. Go figure 🤷♂️
Because they want you to not buy this unless you don't respect yourself at all.
Dacia is in fact a Renault sub-brand… They must keep a balance in sales.
You my sir are the Best practical reviewer on CZcams! 🎉 hands-down
Wow, thanks!
Thanks. Finally a decent review, without praising “you get a lot of car for that money”. Made me think probably it is not a good choice to carry my family (two kids and a dog) for a mid distance trips, like Riga to Warsaw.
No, you don't want to spend 9 hours in this car. Two-three hours is more, than enough.
There’s a video to be made on how small family cars may have made people restrict family size to 2-3 children. Would cheaper, maybe subsidised, seven seaters encourage a higher birth rate in Europe?
I wouldn't say that. There are models like the VW Sharan, Seat Alhambra, Opel Zafira, Ford Galaxy etc. that are able to accommodate larger families and are not that expensive(at least for western Europe standards). There is a video to be made though on how such models are being fazed out to be replaced by less practical, less economical and more expensive SUV's and how this trend is more controlled by the manufacturers rather than by what the customer wants or needs. At least this is how I see it.
We need fewer children, the human race is a cancer on this planet
2-3 children, that's a big family for Europe 😁
@@markmd9 if you have more than 3 or 4 children at this point might as well get an actual van with seats because while you can seat them in a big nirmal car it wont be very comfortable. Also if you need to take any other adults you will have nowhere to put them and thats before we get to stuffing all their luggage. In that regard 2 to 3 children can be considered a fairly big family for having to fit them in a minivan. Also... Stop making so many children idk condoms or just pull Out and you can drive smaller cars 😅
I used carvago here in Poland ....Super cool.
Great review and Dacia do offer great value.
Good news!
Thanks for the review Marek. Always appreciate your point of view.
The 1 star rating is very disappointing, but it's probably an improvement if you're coming from a much older car. Whether to buy this over a used car would depend on the buyer - warranty, reliability etc. Like you said, you get what you pay for.
I like that there's a factory LPG option, I wish more car makers offered this.
As safety regulations become tougher, this may still be Dacia's safest car to date. Unfortunately for Dacia everyone else is also moving forward.
I see this car used especially in rural areas on short-to-medium distances, and then it totally makes sense. Chuck whatever in the boot, drive on whatever road surface. As long as repairs are cheap, you can run this thing into the ground.
Sometimes I would be interested in how the cargo area looks like, when the rear seats AND the passenger frontseat are folded (even when there’s no satisfiying flat area).
Apart from this I really appreciate your absolutely critical and honest reviews. And not to forget mildly amusing ;)
Kidding aside, I am a huge fan of your presenting, humor, filming and cutting. And that you are regularly reviewing affordable cars too. Big compliment.
If you would spend 1.000 Euros for aftermarket sound proofing, the noise problem should get fixed, shouldn´t it?
The LPG 5 seater would be ideal for me but it's not in the UK market as an option!
Please kill the background music when you're talking, it's incredibly aggravating
very nice looking minivan! love the volvoish tail lights.
I think it's good for what you get. But I want comfort, comfort is a must for me. Me my partner and 4 kids drove from UK to Portugal in our Zafira B 2008 modal and on the way back home through Spain we decided to go to Lithuania and then back to UK all round trip 6000 miles so confort is a must but the gear box die in uk this is a the weak point on the Zafira would not recommend ever buying a Zafira buy the way. Also we went camping ever 2 weeks in uk during the summer period racking up even more mileage. So again comfort is a must.
i'm happy to see a non worshiper review about my future car, thanks!
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I've had dreadful problems with mine. The main ones:
1. Power loss after idling for a few minutes in traffic. Turbo will not engage/spool up when pulling away. No warning lights, smoothly up through the revs, but no power at all.
2. All warning lights come on at once, power cuts, steering goes heavy and after a few seconds the car restarts. This happens whilst driving. Very scary.
3. Bad noise (like a bad bearing) when using AC that rises with the rpm, and continues after the rpm of the engine has dropped again (like when pulling up to a junction, slowing down) for a few seconds - like an overrun. Dacia replaced the AC compressor but still has not fixed. Getting worse and was not there from new.
I think that there is potentially a very big market for the Jogger. As long as people understand why it has a 1 star crash avoidance rating. Thanks for converting metric fuel consumption to imperial by the way, it saves me using the calculator or Siri/Alexa.
It's not just crash avoidance. If you look at Euro NCAP results, the Jogger also scores quite low in the occupants protection department, not just safety equipment. Also, some of the driver aids are supposed to help prevent the crash in the first place.
Only lower scoring cars in recent years were Dacia Spring and Renault Zoe. Going further back we're looking at Jeep Wrangler and Fiat Panda.
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Renault are making a big fuss about this, as reported in the motoring press. They do not agree at all with the euroncap’s current scoring methods.
@Huw Williams ironic coming from a company, whose car was the first to ever score five stars in the Euro NCAP tests :)
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Exactly one of the points they make, plus they claim that one of the poor performers in terms of score in the latest test, I forget which, is the safest car in an actual crash that they have ever built.
@@hedydd2 yes, that's what I said in the review. They claim the Jogger is the safest car they ever made. It's based on the Sandero, which scored 2 stars. Allegedly this one would also score 2 stars, had it not been a 7-seater, which doesn't have third row seat belt sensors. A lame excuse, if I'm honest. It's like saying "they car's shit, but not THAT MUCH shit". Also adult and child occupant protection is among the lowest in years, so it may be a safe(ish) Dacia, but not a safe car in general.
Like the way you explain about this car. Good job 👏
Thank you! 👍
The 1 star NCAP score is because of unnecessary and unreliable electronic gadgets that people will turn off, not because it's structurally unsafe. In fact it's structurally the same as a Sandero which received 4 stars. Good on Dacia for saving us the money, which in the end is what most buyers will actually care about, even if Marek personally disagrees.
Actually Sandero scored two stars.
@@MarekDrivesENG Fours stars for adult occupant and child occupant protection though. "And if it was only rated for its crash protection, then it would have probably been “a four-star performer”, according to Euro NCAP."
You made me look at the report in detail and they actually lost points for not having ACC or isofix mounts in the rear middle seat. I'm sorry but those are convenience features that you either need or don't need, nothing to do with safety. But now car makers include gimmicks like ACC as standard even in cheaper new cars, so they score high on the NCAP so car journalists such as yourself don't trash them in the reviews, in effect making new cars unaffordable for more people that never cared about those things in the first place.
I bet in a few years they'll deduct points for manual handbrakes because you might forget to put them on or something idiotic like that. On the other hand I never see them deduct points for SUVs that roll over incredibly easily in a swerve or minor side impact. It's not part of their rating yet ACC is.
Euro NCAP doesn't award stars per category. The star rating is for all the categories combined. Anyway, the adult occupants protection level is among the lowest in recent years.
Also, as this is a family car, wouldn't you expect it to be safe for children?
@@MarekDrivesENG It is a perfectly safe car for children.
Did you say 1 engine is a naturally aspirated petrol with LPG? Surely you can believe that a 3cyl 1.0 petrol.engine would be naturally aspirated
Very nice rewiew. You are doing a splendid job. About the car i am a person that i would buy this kind of a car and apreciate what IT ofers and don't care about other non esențial quizmoz.
Just bought one a LPG comfort delivery December 2022
Dacia confirmed a camper version of the Jogger will be available next year.
god knows how they will do that unless the roof elevates up like a T5 camper !
Get all the seats out, and add some padding to flatten the floor. A mattress on top. Job done.
What dou you have before adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist? Common sense! 😃
"You get what you pay for" is a very good conclusion for it, and counts for all Dacias.
Except the Spring - it is a quite expensive piece of junk
Spring is Chinese
Good honest review. Thanka.
Thanks for watching!
I think many large families are unlikely to go on holiday in the Jogger because with 7 people on board, the boot would be too small. It would probably make a good taxi. Skoda should be in this market and Kia too.
Skoda used to be...
I don't know what they are doing today. I get the impression they're not quite sure, either.
You can install an additional cargo space on the roof. Could work.
9:00 what happend with the exhaust???
Cold start, shift to second, acceleration.
BTW, the exhaust is on the side, like on a G63 AMG ;)
Why give the boot size/space in Litres? I'm not filling it up with water am i! I wanna know the space I've got to put things in, in cm!
Liters is the standard.
But OK, that black case is a Peli Air 1615, so that should give you some reference.
@MarekDrivesENG well....no..cus I don't know the dimensions of that case! Why can't people who are reviewing a car not just give the width, height n depths of a cars boot?
Its beautiful
Don't look ata the badge isn't Romanian is more likely Moroccan,Morocco made Dacia, full with flaws and non functional parts, in case of damage or minor collision owner is left alone because no parts for this very badly made of a car.
good for people who need low budget big car
The rear seats on Dacias always look a bit flat to me. Would you want to do 300 miles sat on them ? The front seats look fine, but I havn't sat in a Dacia for some years so I don't know.
Let me put it this way: I drove my mother in law in this car for 350 kilometers. She was sitting in the back, and she wasn't impressed :)
We picked her up in our Countryman (which is hardly a GT), and she was singing praise about it, also complaining how the Jogger was too loud and uncomfortable for her.
Because of the noise you have to keep attention on the road?? Pleasealways keep attention on the road. I drive a 7 year old Peugeot Partner. It's has a lot less safety featres and is a lot noisier on the road. Yet I have no problem riding it 1000km in one day...
No, I said the droning noise gets tedious after some time, and it's getting harder to pay attention. Therefore I'd rather have a quieter car, and also I like some driver aids, because thanks to them I'm less tired during long journeys.
1k km during one day? I'm not going to say "good for you", because you're probably endangering yourself, your passengers, and other people on the road.
@@MarekDrivesENG Which driver aid exactly makes you more relaxed while driving, Marek? Adaptive cruise control?
@Stoil Stoychev among others. Active lane keeping assist also helps.
Dacia single handedly tackling Europe's birth rate crisis.
First time seeing your reviews and i have to say they are excellent. Thank!
Glad you like them!
is there anything better in this price and this boot size for this price ??
Just asking brothers, please inform the rest of us
No.
Should someone be looking for something better, even at a higher price? If one can afford it, one should.
Would you buy this over the Duster Marek?
I would probably not buy a Dacia in the first place, but assuming I do not need the third row and this much cargo space, I'd consider the Duster or the Sandero (if I didn't need AWD either).
nice fair review, like always
Can you please review the Fiat panda 2022 that has 0 ncap stars?
It's pretty much the same Panda I reviewed 10 years ago. You will find its review on this channel.
@@MarekDrivesENG hi it has changed a lot as it now has 0 ncap stars plus you only reviewd the 4 x4 panda , so now you can review the fiat panda sport please
Interesting vehicle with great potential, however lawnmower ENGINE cancels any PURCHASE.
I love your honest reviews.
Can you remove part or completely the middle raw of the seats? (I am sure you know where i am at with)
Probably with some tools.
@@MarekDrivesENG well that makes it more complicated... thought it would be as easy as you showed for the third raw...
The second row has to have seatbelt sensors, so the connectors would have to be integrated in the mounting system so that the user doesn't tear them out, when removing the seats. There's probably a click-to-connect cable joint, but that still could get damaged, when a person is dealing with a heavy back seat.
I think you said what needs to be said. You get what you pay for. If I were in the market for a 7-seater and REALLY wanted a brand-new car to impress my neighbours (little nudge at one of my own neighbours), but wasn't interested in little details like how it drives...I think I'd still have qualms, mostly because there's NO DIESEL. Instead I'd look for something like a used VW Caddy people-carrier variant (yes VERY used for the same money...) and bag myself something that is superior in every respect.
As others have commented, this car will be filling the streets of some eastern european cities in a couple of years time, in yellow livery - the best thing being that it's a cheap 7-seater and passengers will only ever need to experience it for a few minutes at a time. In my neck of the woods in England, minicab drivers will stick to their (diesel) Skodas instead, which DO feel nice to be in. I'm no VAG fanboy (meaning - I think VAG are dreadful pirates like many other car makers, apt to destroy suppliers for a penny in cost saving), but they do have knack for making cars that are nice to be in (thanks to their systems / module suppliers, of course - the same suppliers who struggle for pennies in profit - I used to work for one such supplier - VAG was the rock-bottom-price benchmark that other customers used to clobber us with...).
My only experience of Dacia was a few years ago when I had a Sandero Stepway as a Renault dealer courtesy car. It may have looked OK from the outside. but the inside was like somebody had taken random Renault parts and scattered them around in a slightly larger space than they were intended for. The driving position was weird - it had a height-adjustable driver's seat, but this only had two positions: completely up or completely down, operated on a spring - completely pointless, really. I was either far too low or far too high. The ONLY half-decent aspect of the driving experience was the DIESEL engine, which gave me an acceptable 55mpg, albeit with the same sensation of a throttle pedal connected to an elastic band as I experienced in a Mk4 Clio DCI a year previously. It would go, but lacked the urgency of my Mk3 Clio DCI106 (may she rest in pieces - I mean peace - the victim of a collisdion with a van - now replaced by a Fiesta Econetic which is just NOT as comfortable, or as peppy, or as spacious or as robust as the old Clio, but gives me 70mpg vs the 63mpg I had from the Clio).
I couldn't have said it better. Also, I'd be eaten alive for saying so myself :)
Well, Dacia is a workhorse in general. It's for those who don't mind 'riding' to their destination instead of very relaxed or very angry driving... or just driving in general on long distances. It is not a good choice for those with 'fragile bones', they'll develop calluses quickly. But it is honest and affordable .. and rather reliable these days.
Misses the point entirely. The only Jogger review I've watched that focuses on the negatives. Not everyone has £40,000 or wants to PCP thousands to dealerships.
Perhaps one of the few reviews that focuses on safety.
6 passengers plus luggage and it purrs in the outer lane where you have to ease off to stay legal. Bit of a snobby review.
Can you also please test the Toyota verso?
It's the same as the Opel Combo, which you can find on this channel.
Hi , the toyota verso is not the same as the vauxhall combo as the vauxhall combo is a van based 7 seater whereas a Toyota verso is a 7 seater mpv
So can you please review it?
Professional great review 👌👍
I don't really understand why they wouldn't include an automatic. It's a family car.
It's for a price-conscious family.
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I think they're hoping it'll lend relevance to the hybrid version?
Central seats can be removed?
Not without tools.
@@MarekDrivesENG thanks!
The leg room in the second row is imsufficient
Depends how tall you are and/or how tall the driver is.
if you get what you pay for with this, then at double the price, you clearly don't with a VW Touran. As good as the VW is, it's not twice the car.
My argument in this situation is: drive the Jogger and the Touran across Europe for vacation. You'll see where the money went.
And sure, when I was in my 20s, early 30s I could do a 15 hour stint behind the wheel, and go party at the end of the journey, but these days are long gone. After 4 hours in the Jogger I was seriously considered driving it into a wall at high speed to end my misery :)
@@MarekDrivesENG I had a Touran for nearly 4 years, and it was a comfortable car to do some distance in. I get your point, I can imagine the Jogger isn't nearly as comfortable on long journeys. Although I expect it would be my middle row passengers making me want to prematurely end the journey. May well get a Jogger, so it'll be an interesting comparison.
Nice and detailed
Thanks!
I am working an living in Romania, I was born in Romania from romanian parents and I bought a... Hyundai. So yeah, that's my oppinion on Dacia generally spaking.
At least you guys are still making cars. Our government decided we will have an EV. And so far they've set up a company with a payroll :)
@@MarekDrivesENG A lot of Dacia are made here and some Fords, Puma being one of them, none of which is under the government control. We just can't make good cars, I think we'll better stick to programming, textiles and shoes.
@@10mbc What you said it kinda irrelevant. I also am Romanian and I don't have a Dacia. But that is because I wanted and I could afford something better, not because Dacia is a bad car. They make decent cars, a little bit expensive if you ask me (culminating with the Spring with a price tag of 20K which is purely madness) but the most important, quite reliable cars. There are a lot of Dacia Logan first generation is use today, most of them with no major problems.
And the NCAP test is a joke form my perspective because is no longer a crash test, but a test of how much of electronic driver assists the car has. Or, as I say: "anti stupidity sistems". :D
@@TheVallixx ..."anti stupidity sistems"... the American way.😂
It'd be okay round town, wouldn't want to do my usual long runs with it.
Dacia Roomster
Kind of :)
Snobby vid.
1 star rating? So poor people are not worth saving? LOL Ok then. Poor people, don't go on the highway. Save yourself. And are we all gypsies with 7 kids? Put anchor points everywhere including the driver's seat!! Then you can have your kid on your lap the old school way. Thanks for another great video Marek!
To quote the Canadian-Jewish bard Leonard Cohen "everybody knows the fight was fixed, the poor stay poor, the rich get rich..."
Also, on the crash safety note, I recently learned the band Crash Test Dummies is Canadian.
@@MarekDrivesENG ahh Leonard. Thank you for that.
@KevinN he was quite popular in Poland in the 1980s. Our late neighbour (an artist himself) did a great job translating Cohen's songs, which he later sang. He also had that rough voice, so it sounded right. Personally I prefer original Cohen, up to and including I'm Your Man.
A 7 years old 5 star car would also score only 1 star today
@@markmd9, for sure!
Checked it out at local dealer few weeks ago. Not impressed. Cost cutting in massive. Windows are small, especially front window, resulting in terrible visibility. Hard plastic everywhere of the lowest possible quality.
If you are low on money, get a slightly used minivan for the same price - it will be more enjoyable to drive and might even last longer.