Proof Heroes are NOT Worth Upgrading! (Clash of Clans)
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- Are Heroes Worth Upgrading after the Release of Hero Equipment in the Town Hall 16 Clash of Clans Update? This is question that has been posted a lot on the Clash of Clans Sub-Reddit. In this video, Kenny Jo provides an example of Level 20 Heroes with Max'd Town Hall 13 Equipment Vs a Max'd Town Hall 13 Base, the results will surprise you...Also included in this video is recommendations for Hero Potion usage, Ore Collection, Elixir & Dark Elixir Spending Options and Magic Item disposal. Consider Subscribing for More Clash of Clans content.
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As Clan War Leagues comes to an end and another Town Hall 13 F2P Series coming soon, I wanted to test a theory I was seeing mentioned on Reddit, “Should we focus on Hero Equipment Upgrades more than Hero Upgrading” and was very surprised by the comparison results. So with this information, I will definitely be using Hero Potions to war and collect Ore to Upgrade Hero Equipment. For Hero levels, I will just focus on my New Champion by using the Free Books of Heroes each month. Do you think this will be a more efficient method?
Would be interesting to see. Throughout my COC journey, I was told you must upgrade heroes but now they don't provide much value for a lot of investment.
i think we should stay on the old way👍
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imo you should rush till you get atleast one hero to the 8d upgrade level (king or queen level 80, or RC level 30, or warden level 60) that way you get the max output from book of heroes each month. also i think hero upgrades have less priority than before but are still important to upgrade because how long are you going to wait on the heroes? you arent going to keep using hero pots all the time are you? you have to upgrade them at SOME point of time.
I feel like upgrading heroes should not require a builder and they should still be available for wars while upgrading because they are "Heroes".
And I feel like getting a max Th16 but we can't have everything in life
Agree. They kill so much time. Even if they had their own builder like the laboratory.
I were a strong advocate for heroes upgrade before update but had to change my mind after th16, the ores are just important. I predict that next QOL update they will allow heroes to be used while under upgrade but with x2 slower recovery. Heck, even if they made it x4 slower I will still be happy as long as heroes are usable.
im only upgrading mines with books now, i save every gem i can and i buy books from the shop, but im not so sure that i should instead use gems on book of buildings, my heroes are 75-78-55-25
No, upgrading herous using builder is good & not available for war make war challenging for both team, otherwise coc is boring 😂😂😂
Letting the heroes be used during upgrades would make this game 100 times better.
Holy cow, I never thought about that but you're so right
Fr. Always thought it was a little dumb cause it just makes you not want to upgrade your heroes.
I’d easily take paying for troops back in exchange for having heroes on upgrade.
Yes I'm m so weak because my heros always upgrades😢
The only reason i don’t play this game often is because my heroes are busy upgrading and when theyre done upgrading i don’t play again cuz whats the game without heroes
@@mrk.8448 I would quit the game but the fact that I need all those ores to max my equipment keeps me playing
at this point they just NEED to make heroes still avaliable while upgrading, its just makes the game better, and not lock it behind potions either, just make heroes always usable even while upgrading. not getting to use heroes is bad for the game.
maybe make them available but with half power , like when you upgrade barracks the time to train troops get a longer
If they do this coc will become p2w to f2p and supercell don't want that.
I mean, they will not do that. All you have to do is playing another attack tragegy without heroes, like sneaky goblin.
@@UGNaim it's not p2w...
locked behind season pass? when? people just making up things now?
I think the fix is to allow you to use your heroes for clan wars and clan war leagues. Your buildings that are upgrading still defend so let me use my heroes during attacks. Then it feels way better to upgrade them knowing you won’t miss out using them in wars.
Yeah i agree and also clan wars are a way to earn ores so not having heroes leaves us with only star bonus ores which is not good enough to upgrade equipment.
Well said
i disagree because the reason why heroes r feel special is because they really hard to upgrade. If its become easy to get, it will be less special
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@@sne2587 bro what are you talking? I mean just like the defense, you can still use them in the war, plus there's no reason why we even need to wait for them to lvl up when they aren't even a tower but a human
I think they should give ores and other necessary stuff in raid medal exchanges
Yes this.
Raid medals are basically 15 wall rings and reinforce my clan hall with super archer
and its once per week to get it. Supercell is annoying af with that shit honestly
@@ricardomilos1784 fr why do they limit it? Walls already suck upgrading just let me spend all my medals on rings
Yeah bro my archer queen level is 65 but it's says my queen ability is 11 but it should be 13 now I'm gonna delete it@@ricardomilos1784
Please
Honestly if Supercell looks into doing something about this scenario, I guess it’s better to be safe than sorry to continue upgrading heroes
EXACTLY, was thinking to tell my friends the exact same thing.
Even if hero upgrades are droppwd completely which is highly unlikely, almost impossible to happen, they would still reward you with something for all the leveling up you've done.
I'd say that means we should ignore hero upgrades even more now and abuse the infinite hero potions to get as many ores as possible from wars. Once hero potion/raid shop is nerfed, that's when we start upgrading heroes.
@@Lucy_595how are hero potions infinite ? Please explain
U can always get them..they are always free..and in events...was is that hard for u to understand@@rajahassan1236
How they should do heroes is how yugioh duel links does its characters. Incorporate a reward system for leveling up heroes so instead of every 5 lvls u get a u strengthen ur ability instead u would gain ores or equips that can only be gotten thru lvling heroes. This way it keeps the hero grind a priority while incentivizing and rewarding how much u grind.
I love the equipment itself. The new currencies and building was unnecessary. Just make the hero equipment selectable on each podium and automatically they scale the same way by level that the old abilities did.
Exactly but they wanna make extra buck
Yes but the have to monetize it 🤷
not everything has to be monetized in game, Free 2 play will leave the game cuz of those things@@Chaos-Is-A-Ladder
If you guys are active daily you shouldn’t have any problems getting the ore necessary to upgrade your equipment. I haven’t spent a dime on buying ores and have been able to upgrade the gauntlet and eternal tome to level 17 each since the update and cookie event were released by completing the star bonus and participating in wars. This game has always been a grind so I don’t understand why so many of you have a problem. Like I said in the beginning if you guys can complete your star bonus everyday, 2 attacks minimum, you will have the ore necessary to upgrade your equipment. It’s that fucking easy.
The Currency and how you obtain it is fine, the problem is that upgrading Heroes are still unavailable for War and some Clans are REALLY serious about having them all available to participate otherwise you're out, and ignoring these you are still in a disadvantage from not having them.
So, the only proper solution is to just make them available for Wars and Leagues only just like upgrading Defenses does (which was updated since upgrading Defenses did stay down for Wars in the past).
Hero levels are needed to defend. SC needs to lower the gem cost for books of heros as well as the hammer as they are no longer tied to abilities and the gains are minimal.
or just reduce the number of levels the hero has and make them mater more
Which is still not the priority if at all.
@@Myder_Dragontrue we cant be runnin around w level 100 heros at one point
I did think that, would love to see a lvl 20-30 barb king with equipment vs a lvl 75+ barb king on defense
I’ve always thought they would end at lv100, and from there introduce other stuff to them
After new update we're upgrading Equipments and Heroes differently. So I think they need to reduce time and resources to upgrade heroes in large scale ..maybe reduce to 50%
Or like a hero lab, so it doesn't use a builder
@@JazzReaperthen it would be like upgrading one hero at a time which isn’t good
@@BeeForBreakfast nothing was ever said about only having one slot
Or maybe they allow us to use Heroes using hero potion even if it's on upgrading
@@JazzReaper no lab currently has more than one slot as of now so…
Upgrading heroes should be instant
Yes
Yes 😢
At least not fucken days
@@Wolfbroaweeks
But that would actually make sense so why would they do that?
Honestly in my opinion,not having me hero's max before I upgrade my town hall makes me look poor (idky)
yeah same thing, and the walls as well...just for esthetic
same
@@lukebeir4567fr, I downloaded the game again since 2014 just for the aesthetic of the village, and found how much easier the game is now.
Same and after upgrading them all you feel happy and proud just for 1 week, cuz next week you gonna get new town hall and “ah sh*t.. here we go again”
I feel you
seriously it’s so dumb that some of us grinded for months if not years to upgrade heroes and now they added this equipment that not only doesn’t upgrade the ability anymore, but it’s another damn separate upgrade! and the fact that heroes can’t be used to attack in wars/multiplayer while upgrading and you get those ores by _once_ a day bonuses and wars when you can’t even use them is just ridiculous
edit: for those who’ll say: that’s what the book of heroes are for-
the rest of the troops can be used while they upgrade and has book of fighting so there’s no excuse to not be able to use heroes while they’re upgrading
We should have heroes at least for wars ! 😢
Hate the equipment update, upgrading heros now feel completely pointless.
They need to reduce the hero upgrade time to Max 4 days at the highest level
I guess they should significantly decrease the time of upgrading heroes to like 3-4 days on max level. The costs should be the same since loot can be farmed indefinitely.
Nah cost should be decreased by atleast 30%
The fact that heroes take builders is such a progress killer for the base.
At this point the only real fix is to allow us to use them during upgrades like the rest of the army. The tactical decision reason is absolutely no longer valid because now you actually need to do clan wars to upgrade heroes but without them it is really hard to win wars. So you either neglect their stats or the ability but either option is not really viable. They should work how pets work and the blacksmith building can take over anything related to heroes. Heck the upgrades can even use builders.
well, hero books are a major part of their revenue. They cannot give up on that so easily, but I am sure that they will figure out a way to lessen frustration about it.
Supercell needs to make heroes available while they're upgrading. Like come on, no archer queen for 4-8 days PER LEVEL? HOW THE HELL CAN WE TROPHY PUSH?!
Something I don’t see anybody mentioning is that certain pieces of equipment scale with percentage, such as the kings, rage vile, and the wardens rage gym they give a percentage based increased so the higher level your heroes are the bigger the increase
True
My general advice would be to still keep your heroes down as much as possible, but instead don’t worry about maxing them out. What ever you don’t finish can be finished the next town hall level. It doesn’t really matter since over your later town hall levels that take longer, the time will catch up and your heroes will eventually max out before you even know it, and maxed heroes are still powerful with their stats since it’s a big driving force of attacks.
and then you gotta max the pets, adding even more upgrades... it really makes sense to max them, as long as it doesn't hold you back too badly.
I think they should give more ores when upgrading them and it will ramp up depending on what level they are. Ores can't really be gained casually, you have to participate in war to get it efficiently, so I think upgrading heroes should give more ores so that we can upgrade their equipment faster.
I’ll be upgrading them because they do help on defense, especially the warden.
My clan doesn’t require heroes to be up for regular wars, just CWL, so I’ll work on upgrading them 3 weeks out of the month.
For Warmongers, maintaining potions and upgrading equipment takes priority and now ur builders are free to upgrade ur defenses. For Farmers that also dont war, nothing has changed. For rushed players, their defensive part gets a boost bcoz now u can put all builders into defenses. You will be upgrading ur defense faster than ur offense.
It would have been great if they combined 5 level in to one with more cost and time. With each level unlock they could update skill with dark elixir for 5 times while still being able to use heros more often like armys. Used ores for fifth updates or buying new equipment.
I was exactly thinking the same. Reduce the lvl and give morr stats per lvl
It is bad actually because book of heroes would increase 5 lv or they need to remove it
@@Random76544 a sacrifice im willing to accept.
@@xm214-aminigun9 what i meant was, it would be too easy to upgrade heroes then, even worthless if book just upgrade 5 levels instead of 1
@@Random76544 if for example 5 levels in total takes 150000 dark elixir and 6 days to complete, just make the upgrade take the 6 days and 150000 and give me the whole five levels at once. Increase the upgrade times to make up for the fact that we're doing it all at once. Nah i don't think it's a downside really.
For me, I think hero level still plays a role in defending like a high lvl hero can ruin some attack if not manage carefully.
they’re weaker now
good point
@@Runaasu That argument is so invalid. A max king is still tanky asf, a max queen, grand warden and royal champion still hits like a truck till now on defense.
@@gapedandamazed6988 I agree cause a high lvl defending king can still 1v1 most heroes if no headhunter or spells use against it.
@@Runaasu Being able to use heroes in wars is definitely a good way to play clash, but imagine this, your at war you 3 starred your opponent with max hero on your th lvl but at the same time because you didn't lvl your hero resulting a low lvl hero on def, it makes your base a bit easy for most atk strat which also resulting a 3s, where a max hero on def can definitely make your opponent base read(unless your got outTH).
Just make then upgradable via the lab.
You can still use it during the upgrade
I was expecting a video on this topic, thanks bro
I think upgrading hero’s is not an attack thing now as much as a defense thing now. Since hero equipment is used for attacking only having higher level hero helps more in a defensive situation as a lower level hero is dispatched way quicker than a higher level hero. Therefore it does not stall the attack like a higher level hero can. Just my thoughts on it. Thanks for the video Joe !
Honestly you should be able to upgrade heroes and use them at the same time. But them getting back up or getting the heart should take longer.
Right now the meta in clash is to rush base and heroes levels are pointless but they can easily fix the hero level thing just by giving players some ores by upgrading hero levels this can give a motive to upgrade heroes and make it easy to upgrade their abilities also
I dont need a motive to make my heroes stronger.
I am a new th15 player with max th13 stats. I upgraded my barbarian to 71, queen to 80, warden to 60 and rc to 15 before the th16 upgrade. After the update, I find it more useful to use the dark elixer to keep the pets upgrading continuously and use the book of heroes from the pass or clan games to upgrade the heroes from time to time. The hero levels don't affect much now as I generally use the hero potion for clan wars or the CWL.
I will still upgrade them regardless but waiting for them while upgrading is annoying. Maybe they should add for the hero potion for them to be used if they are being upgraded. It makes sense to put it in that potion
As a veteran I still prefer upgrading heroes rather than using those potions every now and then instead of wasting your raid medals on them you can always purchase research potions or pet potions to speed up the process it might not go well with others though.
But if you’re in a good clan you can get all 3, I get 1.55k raid medals so it’s enough for 3 hero potions, 3 research potions and 2 pet potions
Exactly I always get the builder resources then just buy the research potions literally no point in wasting all that as her potions are given in litms
@@sarimveesar4350 the potions you get without buying with raid medals aren’t enough to do war every 2 days and cwl
@@lukaspersson4051 I know bro I don't but hero potions at all
@@lukaspersson4051 I get approx above 1.4k raid medals so I buy research and builder resources
Well, those equipment are new mechanic on CoC. And also, new epic equipment : gauntlet for BK.
I think, upping the heroes will still affect as we will never know when those equipment, especially the epic one will balanced. I don't know. Maybe Supercell will decided to buff the level of hero itself
So, yeah. Upping the heroes still worthed as those equipment is new mechanic to the game.
So true man first thought that came to mind after update was then what is the point of upgrading heros there won't be much will be getting after 5 level.
They need to rework hero upgrades at this point, drastically reduce the times, give us a hero potion (let’s us use heroes while upgrading), or straight up let us use heroes while they are upgrading
2 things you have missed
1) every 5 levels the hero get's a boost on how much health it can recover when activating the ability, so even the grand warden for example get's some healing when activating the ability(even if it has the 2 passive abilities combined)
2)if you have a lot of D.E and you're th14 or above, just upgrade pets like the unicorn, frosty, diggy, etc and then the heroes
But upgrading pets means you can’t use them. You might as well upgrade the hero the pet is assigned to so you reduce overall dead time. TH15 and above you can switch pets admittedly so maybe TH14 is worth skipping over as a result
Ahh yess, the +9 health recovery for warden at lvl 55 is definitely worth it. Only for over 10mln elixir. That's definitely worth it
Skills are upgrading seperatly from hero, also with boost you can have max hero level for you th it's not +5 lvl anymore. If you have gems/raid medals your hero level doesn't mean anything. Rushed th's are now efficient
The main and big problem with heroes is the upgrades.
During every single upgrade the heroes are down and cannot be used neither in offence nor defence, thus, making your army incredibly weaker.
Becuase of this some players, me included, have resorted in the past years to use heroes only once a month during cwl and keep them upgrading during the rest of the month, but, with the last th16 update in which the heroes' abilities were detached from the heroes' levels, it started to feel as though these upgrades lost the little value they provided.
The simple solution that has been sitting under supercell's nose for all these years is to simply let heroes stay up during upgrades at least for wars and friendly challenges, in offence in the same way they, alongside buildings you are upgrading aren't down when getting attacked in wars and friendly challenges, maybe adding in a longer resting time when they get knocked down similarly to how the barracks, spell factories and the workshop double the training time when they are upgrading.
Past years? Ive been playing for 15 months and my heroes are maxed th14.
I used them in defense when upgrading, it only works in LL
Your heroes work on defense when you upgrade them in LL and any other defense that is upgrading,your explanation is a little also not reasonable to us up here (LL) but reasonable
@@vanessaxoax7646wtf I started playing it since 2014 Still not have max heroes ! BTW I did not played game for last few years recently come
back but still I played nonstop from 2014-19 and then stopped playing and again started playing for 6-7 months in 22 ! And now from last few weeks
@@vanessaxoax7646used to be alot harder.. back in the day, th10, lvl 40 max BK and AQ. No books or hammers. Dedicated people spent years
My opinion is that heroes should be upgradable in the blacksmith itself, and you should be able to upgrade one at a time, without a builder. This will allow heroes to be upgraded exactly like troops in the laboratory, and that will at least let us have heroes available throughout, and we can go to war regular then!
A cool way to upgrade your hero’s would be to use them in more attacks and keep them alive or something to gain like “ experience “ and get stronger
I hate how long it takes for a HP and damage buff of 2+.
They should let you choose any two abilities to upgrade at 5th lvl like before or atleast make the default abilities upgradable with hero lvl.
Spending 180k dark elixir to get +10dps and hp is absurd. On top of all that, the upgrade times.... 🙂
More like 280,000 at th16
I expect them to fix this soon with a logrithmic increase from the equipment rather than a static one to further incentivise the player for increasing the level by allowing the level to actually matter relative to the equipment.
Probably the best way to upgrade heroes currently at th13, would be to have 2/4 being upgraded. Attacks dont suffer too much, while still allowing meaningful progress
You can only make a real comparison by having the lvl 20 heroes attack the maxed heroes base. Heroes are important for defence. On top of that it will mean you have the raid medals free for other stuff
I feel like they are still worth upgrading I definitely notice differences between a level 30 queen and a level 50 one, and it’s not like it’s really a choice between equipment and hero levels, as they can be upgraded simultaneously due to using different resources, I get the frustration with needing to upgrade them and needing ores from war to get the equipment upgraded though.
They really need to just allow u to use heroes during war, how u gonna make 2 ways of getting equipment ore, with one being war, being a thing that crucially requires heroes 🤣
Ngl i literally forgot this and i instantly upgraded my rc and warden to max as soon as TH16 dropped, but then after seeing the abilities seprate i was soo frustrated
One thing I noticed that just doesn’t make sense is when there is a builder gem boost event it doesn’t boost the hero upgrade time and that makes 0 sense when their upgrade requires a builder.
what do you mean upgrading heroes "can" feel endless, it literally IS endless for me, i upgraded all my heroes to max on TH11, moved to TH12, now i am upgrading them and i am almost done, when the heroes are done so are most of my buildings and i go to TH13, which means i still never get to use them since they are again all upgrading, and once they are done upgrading AGAIN its time for TH14 and repeat.
Well yes 1 hero should be always in upgrade mode to keep up .. That's why alot of players struggle in cwl especially annoying when my archer queen is in upgrade
honestly i feel like this ONE aspect is intentional to slow game progression if you want to use heroes
Upgrade your heroes. Maybe not all at once so you can do war, but they still provide offensive and defensive value. Yeah they get less thats, but they still gain stats. You wont have enough pots for every war anyway.
Yeah they cant be used in war, so what? Theres plenty of ways to speed up time, and after th13, hero levels arent nearly as much of a grind.
Edit: they still get a buff every 5 levels in the "health recovered" stat, its how much a hero heals when using an ability, no matter the ability.
A solution could be that they can always be used when upgrading and instead put a timer on the equipment that becomes unusable for the time it upgrades instead, still allowing you to use other equipment for the time beeing.
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Supercell is becoming as incompetent and cash grabby as Blizzard these days
Supercell bought by Chinese company Tencent ! That's why
@@moonknight3594 no wonder darian left. probably too much stress and everyone (both company and community) telling him to do something every sec that he couldnt magically do
I wish supercell make the heros available while upgrading at least just in the war
I have been waiting for this detail explaination since your short came out on not to upgrade the hero's
By the way good work pal❤❤
i completely agree tbh stats feel too small in the long run. but you gotta remember upgrading heroes helps a lot on defense too quen and royal champion, and warden can rlly shred ur opponents troops.
They should’ve made it so you could only upgrade equipment to a certain level, matching the heroes level
I also find that I am always waiting on and farming Dark elixir whenever I am about to upgrade my town hall because maxing out the Heroes and the Dark Lab Troops takes so damn long compared to other upgrades
At this point, just make a Hero Altar or something where you could upgrade heroes much like in the Lab. The only downside would probably be that they take twice as long to recover but are otherwise usable even if they're being upgraded. Using up a builder just prolong the upgrade of Town Halls sometimes and it doesn't feel worth it to upgrade them when you can't use them much for the majority of the time.
I like that idea. It makes no sense to use a builder to upgrade a hero?? like wtf does a builder have to do with upgrading a hero he should only do construction upgrades unless the heroes are giant robots? There should be a member of the village that specializes on upgrading heroes or, like you suggested, something like a lab.
I like if supercell reduce hero cost upgrade and time upgrade, book of hero, and hammer of hero, because now their abilities are separate
Now it is worth mentioning that every 5 levels you do get more regeneration for the king, Queen, etc i think it is like just do one at a time and it will work itself out
I just came back to coc so i have no idea what these hero equipment stuff are, guess i need to do some research
Considering that leveling heroes and leveling their equipment use different resources, you can't really "focus on equipment," you can only level equipment as those resources are available to you. Also, since the king and queen cost dark elixir to upgrade, and aside from the dark troops, that's about all you can spend your dark elixir on, there's no reason not to upgrade them, unless you're at war.
As a (mostly) FtP player, in a clan that wars constantly, I only upgrade my heroes when my dark elixir storage is nearly full, and I don't have my drills maxed. Despite this, I'm still upgrading them a lot, and my dark storage is almost always full. I activate super dragon and super wizard every three days to use in war defense, and also because I have dark elixir to spare! It's crazy how a resource that was highly sought after, hard to get, and protected more securely than TH when I started playing, is now so meaningless that I'm just throwing it away every three days to make super troops that I don't even use, and I struggle to spend it all.
u don't have drills maxed? and u are at minimum th12? max them out right now
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Why? I always have more dark elixir than I can spend. There's no reason to max the drills.
I missed the gauntlet purchase while the cookies event was active💀 I thought it was a cosmetic skin
They should be same price but instant, there is now a time lock with ore, and they should be expensive because there is a difference and they have a much more noticeable difference on defense aswell.
my take on it is that when they released the new selectable abilities based on what level your hero’s we’re should have been the level they start at when you also unlock them too. i don’t understand why the original abilities were gave levels to start at but the new ones aren’t.. also like many have said just make the hero’s playable while upgrading. simple fix i hop the devs listen to us and get this fixed soon
i still have not bought the hero equipment thing, i don't even feel like buying it idk why
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They could add a separated interface in the lab for the heroes that have their own constructor or something like that
I think we should be able to pause hero upgrade to attack then we can resume the upgrade, I can't find any negative effects of this.
Upgrading the hero levels is more important than the items imo. Not only does it increase the stats all across the board but it makes you attacks easier and they also defend your base better. It's cumulative strength, 3 levels wont make a difference but 20 levels does.
Thank you Jo I will focus more on my base than hero’s I haven’t enjoyed the game since I got it endless heroes upgrade
ive never been disturbed about this, but rather actually excited when upgrading heroes idk why... u know unlocking new stuff and all
I used to upgrade my heroes by using 4 heroes with 4 bulidrs bussy but now I only use 1 builder in one hero
I think they should condense the hero levels down and increase the cost and upgrade time per level on the heroes. So for instance going from a level 1 hero to a level 2 hero would be the same as going from level 1 to level 5 now in terms of the hp and dps improvements. However, bump up the upgrade timers a decent chunk (maybe +30-50% on the timers) and increase the cost a little bit to incentivize BoH and Runes for upgrades. Needing to keep builders busy for 40+ hero levels per TH really drags the game down and hurts player retention for those players who want to max out, but the economy also needs to be rebalanced to better integrate the fact that hero levels are the absolute worst value for time proposition currently in the game.
Hero equipment and the rewards system surrounding it was a fantastic idea for breathing life into clan wars and keeping player retention on the game, but if the hero levels themselves aren't addressed then you're still going to have large numbers of players sitting around doing nothing for months on end trying to max out their heroes and not participating in playing the game.
He forgot to mention that upgrading heroes helps A LOT for defensive attacks which matter most in wars. But they need to allow the use of heroes while being upgraded or at least for wars. Still require builders for hero upgrades and let them be usable.
You know if king is under eternal tome early with warden later he has it with his ability. Might be a bug but dramatically changes everything if you don’t use it.
Another thing is now u get the ores only from star bonous nd war so now missing out a war has actually more downside.
We really need some changes for heros now. I really think supercell should significantly lessen the hero upgrading time which should be below 2 days or if they entirely take out the upgrade timing it is even better.
I could recomend to add option to level heroes on +5 levels per upgrade cycle with the price increased of course this will allow to decrease time they require on upgrades
IMO heroes should have couple of abilities fixed when we upgrade like we had before update. So that players can feel happy when they upgrade their heroes. Later they can use ores to upgrade remaining abilities if they wish
Supercell should make Heros during upgrade times usable in attacks because literally the only times you would be able to play with your heros if your leveling them up is when your about to finish leveling up your whole base.
The heroes should drink a potion or get the needle for an upgrade. Then instead of them being “down” for 7 days they just stay at the same level with a timer on them until they go to the next level. They would be useable for everything, but still have a wait time.
In order to fix this problem while also making it balance in my opinion, supercell should make all heroes be instantly upgraded while also adding +1 damage and hitpoints increase in upgrades in all levels to make a minor change that will become a major change against high hp buildings. But in exchange, upgrade prices are increased by 5%.
Typically I will upgrade heros from the start of a townhall, at th13 it takes a long time to upgrade everything else so being a couple builders down still gives me 4 to work with on buildings. However I can still progress my heros at a steady pace, while annoying for normal attacks
itd be nice if heroes gained "experience" passively the more you use them, and keeping the manual upgrade as an alternative for those who want to make that progress a little faster for the sacrifice of not being able to use them. it wouldnt be a *lot* of experience gain per attack, but over time itd add up, and youd never be stuck without them.
Honestly, those ore are still extremely hard to gain for me as i often drop my rank for loots. Therefore while my heroes are being upgraded for few days, i can use that time to gain abundance of loots at. Like i only need to do roughly 4 to 5 raids to almost max out my storage😅
If you do raid weekends every weekend you can boost your heroes everyday for the whole week and then do it again. Until Supercell either needs hero potions or removes them from the raid medal shop I’ll be postponing my hero upgrades as there is no point
At this point I think that it would be better to just allow to upgrade heroes with no time period like walls cause so much time ur builder is unavailable and u r not getting as good of a result as u got before
Hero potions in war is what I do but still you can't participate in war if you are upgrading a hero so it defeats the whole purpose they need to make it so we can use them in war(only) while upgrading
Thanks genius I figured out that part before the update dropped.
We did unit research in laboratory and we could used those unit in war, but heroes? doesn't... this is nuts
COC in the Philippines was always lost connection
especially with the equipment upgrade, upgrading heros became a annoying chore. the upgrades nearly don't do anything but take away builder time
Honestly they should just make the blacksmith abilities correlate with your hero levels like every 5 level upgrade on the archer queen e.g. gives +1 level for the giant arrow for example
Basically maxing your heroes allow you to transfer hero potions into gems.
Also, just use the hero book to upgrade them. Or wait until you are maxed except walls and just use 4 builders on heroes and 1 for walls.
I’d say if you wanna upgrade heros you can upgrade your townhall when your hero’s are within 10-15 levels from the max for your TH level maybe even 20 levels less depending on how far you can upgrade them at said townhall
I just reinstalled the game, saw I was full of dark elixir and had nothing else to upgrade other than my heroes, now they’re sleeping for 4 days upgrading while I get this video recommended
I think upgrading heros is more for their defensive power rather than offense
Clash needs to make it where if you have 5 builders , and you want to research more than one spell or warriors, you can use a builder to research and get rid of thr goblin creep . Just food for thought
Bro I'm at th12 and i havent had all of my heros for months now. Its kinda annoying not being able to use them because their upgrade timers are so long and they cost so much