I have literaly just installed a remote oil filter. I was to anxious waiting for the time u answered the question. Thank God I don't have to repeat my work. Wish me luck for my first start up. Exciting stuff
I've been installing remotes ever since I was 15, 67 now, routing oil lines is super simple just sit down and draw it out on paper first. To bad you had a very expensive learning event.
I started out wanting everything perfect. I'm old now and I love cheap junk. It's just as fun and you don't get sick to your stomach when something goes sideways. There's also a sense of accomplishment from making somebody else's mess work.
Sounds like you had a non return type filter which is designed to prevent the filter draining back to the sump, they have a rubber flap valve on the inlet side of the filter. If you had used an open type filter you may never have realised until someone fits a non return type filter. Even open type filters have a bypass inside so running them backwards basically bypasses the filter anyway so no filtering is actually happening.😢
It’s just like wiring 2 -12 volt batteries in series to run a 24 volt motor. You take the negative from the motor and connect it to the negative on battery 1. you then take the positive from battery 1 and connect it to the negative on battery 2 with a jumper wire , then you connect the positive from battery 2 to the positive wire to the motor !!! Amps going in one side of the battery and coming out of the other side of the battery. Positive/ negative/positive / negative. Just like your remote oil filter housing Out of motor to the in of the oil filter housing and out of the oil filter housing to the in of your motor. !!!
Big props to you for showing this. Most would not. I never would’ve looked at it that way BUT after you explaining your train of thought at the time you did it, I can totally see how someone new can think that way. Awesome and big props for coming out with it and the many whom may have thought that way you saved massive time and $$! One similar style of mistake i did early on was putting on brake calipers which are symmetrical looking and can go either way with the bleeder down , thinking ok bleed down right? haha I was so boggled trying to bleed them basically flushed my fluid un planned 😂 trying to bleed my brakes and couldn’t get the pedal to stay solid! Before realizing , air naturally tries to go up! Swapped them bleeder up and bam! Bled brakes in 2 minutes. 🤙🤙 anyway much props man. I’m sure there’s shit talkers trying to give you shit too. but keep doing what ya doing cause you are a value to the newcomers 🤙🤙.
It takes one hell of a man to blame himself for a mistake made 💪!!! I see them Aleve tablets laying there lol... It's all behind you now let's go racing 👍
phew...... not started it yet. but did it right... welll I will recheck. I tend to look at things "conceptually" so I just assumed oil flowed - OUT of engine . INto remote filter housing . OUT of filter housing - . INto thermostat/cooler . OUT cooler . INto thermostat . OUT of thermostat and back INto the engine. The path you describe as the correct one..... AKA the products are written NOT to be labels you match.... but to denote "direction of flow"
There is even a easier way to check if that is true or not .... oil usually goes out of the motor through the sides and back in through the middle of the filter. You can check where those locations corespond on the adapter that you put on the motor and the adapter on the filter .... if they "align" so to speak you're good.
Great expansion I agree it would be an easy mistake it's really co you show and tell all but truth be know a lot of people that think they make mistakes much worse just won't own it I worked in a automotive machine shop and could tell stories you would not believe
Exactly. So many don’t want to make these kinda videos bc they feel they are to smart or to cool to help out beginners. People have to learn from some where and I want to help others
How can there be a mix up? Motor oil pump is pumping dirty oil OUT of the block to get IN the filter. Once the oil is filtered it is pushed OUT of the filter and back IN the engine. ? or i am missing something?
I agree 100% with you and that’s how I thought. I was told that there’s a check ball inside the filter housing I think or something that only allows oil to flow one way. All I can say is I promise $10,000 later I can confirm it doesn’t flow both ways. When Kevin found issue the oil pan wasn’t hot after a few minutes on dyno. Then after changing lines around it got hot from oil flowing though.
Is that 190° hose fitting at the engine block adapter laying on that header? That’s no good brother. The vibration of the header will make the fitting fail then slip and slide!😫
It seems so simple, but this video really is a public service: Out from the motor, In to the filter, Out from the filter and... back In to the motor. Always. Your pressure sensor was reading pump output on original hookup, which made the system blind: no idea what the motor was actually getting for oil pressure.
Yes I plan to have a set of mufflers that can be bolted onto the headers if I want to run them for an event or something. But race wise there won’t be mufflers on it.
@ThePaintPaperHustle We blow 700 through our 427W car & it only was down 40hp with the mufflers & turndowns. That's with 4". With the Spintech 4.5 or 5" oval smashed pipe it prolly wouldn't even loose what the 4" did. I'll never go back to open header headaches for that tiny power. Love the Comet I have a 70 Mav that was my first car as well
The Maverick ran 11.70's when I bought it at 15. Then I had Bob Glidden do the heads, had the 4-speed pro-shifted, 4.88's. Been sitting on stands for the last 16 year's. About to get it out again though for my Pop's which was taken from us by Covid. The 427W in a 4-eyed Fox that runs 4.70's in the 1/8th
O didn't realize it's like that when front end is on ...just thought the filter looks hefty and I'm sure u run solid mounts on the car the violent vibrating over time would pull it out of that aluminum unless there's some kind of brace underneath that supports the clear view filter and I just didn't see it in video the ..it was just my thoughts it may not ever be a issue just something to keep a eye on in future
Yea I agree with your thoughts. I still have not finalized it’s mount or how to build it. I spent 2 hours last night brain storming this and working with the upper radiator hose. I haven’t finished mounting it bc I two second guess the strength I want as you’re describing.
Lol ..yep some of them street car/race car problems to many nice parts and no were to put them ..that's what john needs him is clear views filters as much as he does with cutting and checking his oil filters
Is this whole video you guys not knowing what in and out means and how oil flows? If something say “out” and it supposed go “in” something else, that’s would say “in”. I hooked up my coyote with a oil filter relocation that’s labeled in and out and you connect in to out. Why is that so hard that it requires a whole video?
Yes the whole video is me not knowing what I’m doing. It’s going to be best for you to move on to another video being you already understand this. This was made to help others not make this mistake and hopefully help someone out.
For you it maybe. But for others that are starting out it is not. Many people have hurt their engines messing this up. Hopefully this helps others out.
I mean yes to some people. It immediately made sense to me once he said what he did only because I’m a pipe fitter. But to someone who has never done anything like this wouldn’t know. You clearly are someone who would know better.
I have literaly just installed a remote oil filter. I was to anxious waiting for the time u answered the question. Thank God I don't have to repeat my work. Wish me luck for my first start up. Exciting stuff
Good luck buddy!
It's understandable how the line mixup can happen . Great explanation on how to route the oil lines.
Hopefully it helps someone someday
I've been installing remotes ever since I was 15, 67 now, routing oil lines is super simple just sit down and draw it out on paper first. To bad you had a very expensive learning event.
Thanks
I started out wanting everything perfect. I'm old now and I love cheap junk. It's just as fun and you don't get sick to your stomach when something goes sideways. There's also a sense of accomplishment from making somebody else's mess work.
Yes sir I agree with you 100%
Glad u made this video for Info. May save someone a ton of money. Appreciate u sir
Yes that’s all i want to do is hopefully save someone else the headache
Sounds like you had a non return type filter which is designed to prevent the filter draining back to the sump, they have a rubber flap valve on the inlet side of the filter.
If you had used an open type filter you may never have realised until someone fits a non return type filter.
Even open type filters have a bypass inside so running them backwards basically bypasses the filter anyway so no filtering is actually happening.😢
Interesting didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing
It’s just like wiring 2 -12 volt batteries in series to run a 24 volt motor. You take the negative from the motor and connect it to the negative on battery 1. you then take the positive from battery 1 and connect it to the negative on battery 2 with a jumper wire , then you connect the positive from battery 2 to the positive wire to the motor !!! Amps going in one side of the battery and coming out of the other side of the battery. Positive/ negative/positive / negative. Just like your remote oil filter housing Out of motor to the in of the oil filter housing and out of the oil filter housing to the in of your motor. !!!
Thanks!
Appreciate the content keep up the great work
Thanks man and you’re welcome
Thanks for making this video it was clear and very helpful
You’re very welcome. That’s all I want to do is help people.
Thank you for clarification on how to install the oil lines. Nice job
You’re welcome
Good info, thank you.
You’re very welcome
My man. Love the content!
Thanks man
I feel for you. Awesome job making this video and showing your mistakes! We all do it but most won't admit it.
Thanks. I have no problem admitting wrongs and trying to help others which is what I hope this video does
Another great content!!!
Thanks
Big props to you for showing this. Most would not. I never would’ve looked at it that way BUT after you explaining your train of thought at the time you did it, I can totally see how someone new can think that way. Awesome and big props for coming out with it and the many whom may have thought that way you saved massive time and $$!
One similar style of mistake i did early on was putting on brake calipers which are symmetrical looking and can go either way with the bleeder down , thinking ok bleed down right? haha I was so boggled trying to bleed them basically flushed my fluid un planned 😂 trying to bleed my brakes and couldn’t get the pedal to stay solid! Before realizing , air naturally tries to go up! Swapped them bleeder up and bam! Bled brakes in 2 minutes.
🤙🤙 anyway much props man. I’m sure there’s shit talkers trying to give you shit too. but keep doing what ya doing cause you are a value to the newcomers 🤙🤙.
Thanks buddy I also made same mistakes with my rear brakes early on and caught it when bleeding 😆
It takes one hell of a man to blame himself for a mistake made 💪!!! I see them Aleve tablets laying there lol... It's all behind you now let's go racing 👍
😂 yea they are. And man I fail all the time I’m an entrepreneur lol I have no issue blaming myself.
@@ThePaintPaperHustle Same here buddy 👍
we all make mistakes ,thank you for sharing yours , all information on projects is welcome as far as im concerned.
Man, I'm worried about the number of people that'll try their hand on electrical...
No worries it’ll be ok
1: Excellent video
2: Awesome car, man
3: Thanks for posting
Thanks and you’re welcome buddy
Thanks for sharing
You’re welcome
Turbo John got me watching him and AMX got 1st comment in on me
I was watching his video also lol
I did the same thing luckily I caught it in time in goes to out
Man that’s good you caught it!
Good xplanation💪💪now lets getter dun
Trying to with out making any mistakes
phew...... not started it yet. but did it right... welll I will recheck. I tend to look at things "conceptually" so I just assumed oil flowed
- OUT of engine
. INto remote filter housing
. OUT of filter housing -
. INto thermostat/cooler
. OUT cooler
. INto thermostat
. OUT of thermostat and back INto the engine.
The path you describe as the correct one.....
AKA the products are written NOT to be labels you match.... but to denote "direction of flow"
Thanks
Lets go!!!!💪💪💪
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There is even a easier way to check if that is true or not .... oil usually goes out of the motor through the sides and back in through the middle of the filter. You can check where those locations corespond on the adapter that you put on the motor and the adapter on the filter .... if they "align" so to speak you're good.
Thanks
Sorry it cost you, but that would be incredibly easy mistake to make. You have done a great service by sharing this.
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Thanks man!
Using the arrows on your drawing shows the flow exactly, the problem is no one draws it out.
Yes exactly
Can you post where you got that remote oil system please.
Multiple places sale it. Dona Google search for “MMR Coyote Oil Filter Adapter” I can send you an eBay link if you need
You need to think of it like a circuit if that’s easier for someone to understand it.
Good point thanks
@@ThePaintPaperHustle anytime just trying to help out.
Great expansion I agree it would be an easy mistake it's really co you show and tell all but truth be know a lot of people that think they make mistakes much worse just won't own it I worked in a automotive machine shop and could tell stories you would not believe
Exactly. So many don’t want to make these kinda videos bc they feel they are to smart or to cool to help out beginners. People have to learn from some where and I want to help others
Yep, it’s because the oil filter has a check valve (directional valve) in it and can’t reverse flow. That sucks but you live and learn.
Ahhhh good info
How can there be a mix up? Motor oil pump is pumping dirty oil OUT of the block to get IN the filter. Once the oil is filtered it is pushed OUT of the filter and back IN the engine. ? or i am missing something?
I agree 100% with you and that’s how I thought. I was told that there’s a check ball inside the filter housing I think or something that only allows oil to flow one way. All I can say is I promise $10,000 later I can confirm it doesn’t flow both ways. When Kevin found issue the oil pan wasn’t hot after a few minutes on dyno. Then after changing lines around it got hot from oil flowing though.
Just like the plumbing in your house anything that circulates is called a loop in for a good reason
Didn’t know that
Is that 190° hose fitting at the engine block adapter laying on that header? That’s no good brother. The vibration of the header will make the fitting fail then slip and slide!😫
I’m not sure as this is an old video and everything has already been changed while switching to turbo.
It's A Lot Closer Than This Time Last Week. Bout Ready For Some Fire In The Pipes
Man that’s the truth.
Cool 😎 !
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@@ThePaintPaperHustletryin to decipher those two emojis. 😂. Looks suspicious
I jumped the gun typing and missed half of my comment.
Lol nothing to decipher just to random ones. Fist bump and salute
It seems so simple, but this video really is a public service: Out from the motor, In to the filter, Out from the filter and... back In to the motor. Always. Your pressure sensor was reading pump output on original hookup, which made the system blind: no idea what the motor was actually getting for oil pressure.
Exactly
Thanks
Are we Having FUN TOO MUCH EASY MONEY AND FREE TIME
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Are there better chains out for the 5.0s?
There are different options. We went with comp cam chains I think if I remember correctly.
Do you plan to run a exhaust?
The tiny power difference we see isn't worth the noise & damage to our ears... Just curious
Keep up the great content
Yes I plan to have a set of mufflers that can be bolted onto the headers if I want to run them for an event or something. But race wise there won’t be mufflers on it.
I’d love to eventually build bolt on dual exhaust out the back that’s easily removed
@ThePaintPaperHustle We blow 700 through our 427W car & it only was down 40hp with the mufflers & turndowns. That's with 4". With the Spintech 4.5 or 5" oval smashed pipe it prolly wouldn't even loose what the 4" did.
I'll never go back to open header headaches for that tiny power.
Love the Comet I have a 70 Mav that was my first car as well
Awesome that’s good info to know thanks for sharing! Are you building the maverick? Is it the one with this motor in that you’re talking about?
The Maverick ran 11.70's when I bought it at 15. Then I had Bob Glidden do the heads, had the 4-speed pro-shifted, 4.88's. Been sitting on stands for the last 16 year's. About to get it out again though for my Pop's which was taken from us by Covid. The 427W in a 4-eyed Fox that runs 4.70's in the 1/8th
U couldn't use 2 of the bar clamps and mount the clear view to the passenger rail
Yes there is room for it there but then it’s hard to see buried all the way down in there with fenders on and will be hard to service down in there
O didn't realize it's like that when front end is on ...just thought the filter looks hefty and I'm sure u run solid mounts on the car the violent vibrating over time would pull it out of that aluminum unless there's some kind of brace underneath that supports the clear view filter and I just didn't see it in video the ..it was just my thoughts it may not ever be a issue just something to keep a eye on in future
Yea I agree with your thoughts. I still have not finalized it’s mount or how to build it. I spent 2 hours last night brain storming this and working with the upper radiator hose. I haven’t finished mounting it bc I two second guess the strength I want as you’re describing.
Lol ..yep some of them street car/race car problems to many nice parts and no were to put them ..that's what john needs him is clear views filters as much as he does with cutting and checking his oil filters
Yea it’d be great for John
Is this whole video you guys not knowing what in and out means and how oil flows? If something say “out” and it supposed go “in” something else, that’s would say “in”. I hooked up my coyote with a oil filter relocation that’s labeled in and out and you connect in to out. Why is that so hard that it requires a whole video?
Yes the whole video is me not knowing what I’m doing. It’s going to be best for you to move on to another video being you already understand this. This was made to help others not make this mistake and hopefully help someone out.
This channel is intended to help others. If you have more advance knowledge or even the basics then there may not be much here for you.
That’s just basic common sense.
For you it maybe. But for others that are starting out it is not. Many people have hurt their engines messing this up. Hopefully this helps others out.
Stop being narcissistic and respect that other people learn different
I mean yes to some people. It immediately made sense to me once he said what he did only because I’m a pipe fitter. But to someone who has never done anything like this wouldn’t know. You clearly are someone who would know better.