I have done the same thing and I heard nothing different. That said there are a lot of people who talk about sound like a sommelier talks about wine and I cant taste the difference between wines like they do! So my vanilla ears save me money on speaker wire but I still spend too much on wine!! Thanks for the video.
I couldn’t hear the difference from your trial…but looking through comments, it depends on specific audio equipment used???? Again..many thanks for your channel 👍🏻✌🏻🔊🎶🎶🎶🔊🙏🏻
Hi, My 90s kenwood ka3020se, has 2 sets of Speakers A&B, and I have Wharfdale 230s. I had 2 sets of QED cables to each Speaker using both A&B Speakers terminals to Bi-wire, it sounded a bit thin, so put the copper/ gold joining plates back on( like in the video) used 1 set of cables to each speaker ,just using Speakers (A) and sounded fuller, better 😊. But I will try 2 cables each side, just useing Speakers (A) like on the video. Cheers Grant 👍
Yes I noticed a difference, I have my Yamaha amp and all the goodies with my Audio Centron 150 watt 15 inch speakers by wired and it absolutely definitely makes and more full sound or another way to say it there is more fill in the sound yet remains crisp and sharp when needed and more distorted when listening to distortion sounds.
i took the jumpers off, the terminals on my Wharfadale 9.1 speakers 🔊 and replaced them with solid copper wire ( electrical) about an inch. And I’m also using solid copper…. Short length wire for cables; as opposed to the stranded copper wire online from various companies. Speakers that are bi-wired just means that the tweeter and woofer are separated from thin cables inside the speakers themselves. So it’s done on the outside instead. Wednesday 12th October 2022. U.K. Southampton.
Hi! I like simple but good things, so after ~30 years of hi-fi collecting, listening and tryings I ended the difficoult system set ups. I mean that I stayed at a pure stereo system (marantz pm7005 with cd5005 and wh diamond 11.2 loudspeakers). They not need and not able to bi-wire, not need and not able loudness switch, I not use tone or sub. The sound is great without difficoults. Best regards.
A suggestion. Only biwire one speaker, leave other with single. Play a mono single. If there is no difference the sound will be identical and appear in the middle. If there is any difference, the sound will appear wide.
thank you so much for this video ! I sure will try bi wiring as soon as I can. And i also liked the single wired sound more as well. but I think thats because of the banana plugs. They may degrade the sound.
Tried your experiment with my Denon M41 and my Wharfdale 12.2 speakers and the bi/wiring certainly made a difference on my system, producing a fuller sound than using single wiring.
Only because you have less resistance with two sets of wire. Just use a single pair of heavier gauge wire instead. How in the world do you think your amp knows to send low frequencies on one set of wires and the high on the other?
I heard the differences and had my eye's closed. You really have to test it on a song that you listen to regularly to hear the difference in the spatial separation between the woofer and tweeter. It certainly changed , was it for the better?, that's subjective and up to your listening taste!
I hear a difference in my speakers, on my system. It's not dramatic, but the highs have just a little more presence. I find it pleasurable. Yamaha amp driving 6 ohm Snell bi-wired bookshelf speakers.
thankyou. something i have been wanting to do for awhile and comparison. Me. 61 year old guy, did not hear a difference. I also have Cambridge audio , axr100 and Wharfedale d320, cd axc35, single wired, awesome for me. thanks
I noticed a difference. I just got a Denon PMA600 and Wharfedale 220 speakers. I thought that it rounded the sound off nicely and elminated the treble heavy sound associated with standard wiring. It also cleaned up the sound of vinyl nicely
Nice explanation. The first person I've seen go from the speakers to the amp and explain properly what happens at the amp end. Likewise a good acknowledgement that your using 54 year old ears! It does matter!
You can hear the upper med base and the separation is more distinct so I guess a clear sound overall with bi wiring. Thank you for the experiment and the explanation on how to do it, too!
i would also just like to add… that, yes there is a vast improvement in sound quality when upgrading to solid copper wire. i certainly noticed that. I’m using a DVD player with a built in amp; so… basically I’m listening to music straight from the horse’s mouth; so to speak. It seems to me also, that.. the more watts input a speaker has; a much better realistic sound quality you will get. i recently bought a pair of Moukey speakers ( 3 way 55 watts input) but the Wharfadale 9.1 beats overall. Wednesday 12th October 2022 U.K. Southampton
I wonder if bi-wiring with an amp that has an A/B speaker output would make any difference (like the Marantz CR612). If not in the quality (since the same signal goes out from the same amp), but maybe in power output and perceived audio "push" at the same level?
Personally, I thought the single wire playback gave the tweeters a bit more crisp. Granted, that is through ear buds on a lap top from a CZcams video, so the sound quality is not spectacular anyway. But the single wire seemed to offer a little more separation from driver and tweeter. That's just my two cents. great video!
Bi wiring is usually for different spec cable, some cable seems to handle higher frequencies better than others etc. I don't really hear the difference myself but I suspect this is more on the higher end stuff. Like using a tubed amp for the highs with a conversational amp for the lows.
Exactly right 👏as you say bi amping/wiring is something that was created not for powering the highs/mids together and bass individually,it was as you said more of a sound difference in different cables as some cables are brighter or warmer as to match the highs/mids better to your amps charecteristics and others are beefier or thinner at bass sounds and so company's found that by using 2 separate sets of binding posts they could achieve a better sound stage with 2 different sets of cables. tbh I honestly thought that single cables gave a clearer sound stage In this test though.👍
that's what I heared too. Bi wiring works if you usee cables designed for the right frequency range (if that is a thing). At the same time, cable design has undergone improvement to a point where they are "full range". So, that would neutralize bi-wiring. But in the end, I cannot get myself to realy believe in all of this. And my financial resources, neighbours and ageing ears won't allow personal testing.
Bi-wiring out of the same (amp-side) binding post set into (speaker-side) several binding posts has an effect based on cable (!) properties which affect different frequency ranges (one of several physics explanations is 'skin effect' - in short: resistance of the cable is frequency-dependent, the higher the frequency the more the current runs only on the outside of one wire core). I.e., bi-wiring only does something if you are indeed using different cables (e.g., different thickness of the cable cores, different material mix of cores, different thickness of total cable). Note: This has nothing to do with (expensive) cable voodoo, but rather say e.g., you want to use a thinner cable (or one with less cores) for the high frequencies' range - you could reach the effect to tone a bright speaker a bit down. Whether this will result in audible difference, is up to (your) test. But: bi-wiring allows you to separate the effect that cable properties have on the sound for the two different frequency ranges. Hence: it gives you an extra parameter to tweak sound. What you show in your video is consistent: if you use the same wire, you will have almost no effect. (Except: it might transmit 'more' power in total - but that would be reached also by using a thicker cable with more cores or twin cables into the same speaker binding post)
2:12. The only change made here is that the impedance of the cable used is halved - from 0.2 ohm to 0.1 ohm. The point of bi-wiring is to use separate amps - one for each cabinet, ones with balance controls to tune the music played. Otherwise its just hype, because a cabinet speaker is set to produce a flat response. Bass and treble controls interfere with that response.
No incorrect, when a speaker is bi-wired the cross-over has two separate earth routes, so the large currents drawn by the bass -mid unit do not travel the same route as the treble signal. In a single wired installation the bass signal will modulate i.e. distort the relatively tiny treble signal, causing the speaker to sound less clear and make the music harder to follow. Bi-amping a loudspeaker with identical amps that have same gain and quality level will result in a massive increase in clarity and musical enjoyment.
I think to really get proper channel separation (my amp has 8 speaker posts) and I run A+B speaker output (basically as Low + high) and then wired at the speaker as you show. this way my Highs are coming from completely separate channel B on Amp. Lows on Channel A. What you've done is just separate the cables after the signal left the amp on same channel? I think this would achieve better results. Be sure to follow the wiring schematic for your amp as youre running 4 cables with 4 ends each (16 connections) and proper wiring matters.
It's hard to tell any difference, but of course it's through you tube and my speaker system. I really tried to hear something, but I think whatever I am hearing is my imagination, because I want there to be since it seems extra wire, and separate connections should make a difference.
I always thought bi-wiring required 2 sets of outputs on the amp? When I bi-wired my mission 774’s my Pioneer amp had 2 sets of outputs and I utilised both. I could hear a definite difference.
Of course its worth it, your halving the cables impedance and separating the drivers at the amps output, on long lengths of cable of 12ft and over biwiring is the way to go, same principle as adding dropper wires to a model railway, without them the train will slow down after about 20feet actually bi amping is a BIG no no unless you have 2 identical amplifiers
Bi-wiring is for the use of separate amps, and bypass the internal crossover network. You need a active crossover behind the pre-amp, and 4 channels of amplification. Just adding more copper wiring to the chain, will not make things sound “better”
Using separate amps is 'bi-amping' and not bi-wiring. I agree that adding more cable to the chain will not improve the sound, which was made clear in the video. This is what the manufacturers of the speakers put in their manuals. I wanted to show that it was a bad way. I explain in more depth in this video czcams.com/video/_5FH2tKONQ4/video.html
Although some people suggest otherwise, using A/B outputs wouldn't make a difference. Using two amplifiers (Bi-Amping) is very different from Bi-Wiring and also more costly but you may hear a difference?
i dont really hear any difference here..but definitely heard on mine which biwiring makes my tweeter's high freq sounds more defined and less noisy...i bi wire it via custom braided twist cables which in theorically helps cancel noises
You prob don't have enough power or didn't do it right, or wrong specs in general. I have Yamaha NS555 tower speakers with a pretty old Yamaha a/v and I run biwired via speakers A&B. 1 pair goes to A, other pair to B. If I turn off A, only bass plays, turn off B, only highs play. So it seems more power to the tower (haa that rhymes) and louder when both in. Same length heavy gauge weird 6'for all 4 wires. Wonder what would happen if I left them both with jumpers, more power/volume????
The bi wiring to me produced a fuller sound as opposed to the single wiring which sounded tinny but being over 50 my hearing could be suspect too. Thoroughly enjoyed your video though, so thank you.
Im 22 and I personally couldn't really tell the difference during the first part of the song between the two. In the second part though the Bi wiring had a little more punch in the bass frequencies compared to the single wiring. I've got a hifi system that I'm trying to set up with polk audio RM2000 monitor speakers, RM1000 Subwoofer, CS150 centre monitor and 2 JVC SP ES5 bookshelf speakers for surround sound. I'm trying it out with music production :)
What I do run is run a small wire by the speaker from the one port to the other. Those plates were actually working as bi wire in the same way, which is why you probably heard no difference.
This is exactly what I was thinking.....this guy clearly has no idea what he is doing. Most higher end speakers that are bi-wire capable come with a jumper in them to make them bi-wired straight from the factory. The jumpers are made of metal hence it being a conductor of sound. This is exactly why he heard absolutely no different BECAUSE THERE WAS NONE!!! LOL. Besides he needs to buy a nice set of OCC Bi-Wired 2-4 banana cables. If he just would listen to the speakers with the wires connected to just the bottom (low) connection on the back of speaker (WITHOUT THE JUMPER IN) and then wire it how you have speaker wire going to both sets of positive and negative terminals on the back of speaker and tell me if you don't hear a difference then!!?? .......THATS BI-WIRING
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 Not really, just check the Wharfedale specs and you'll see that for a standard connection you need to keep the metal plates (the signal needs to go to both crossovers, otherwise you'll get only highs or lows) and for bi-wiring you need to remove it so the same signal goes to both crossovers again but using 2 different conductors this time as it supposedly reduces the intermodulation effects. Electrically bi-wiring creates a parallel connection with the same voltage through both wires however with different currents. These being said, if it makes and audible difference or not it depends on the listener. (further reading www.qacoustics.co.uk/blog/2016/06/08/bi-wiring-speakers-exploration-benefits/ )
I literally followed the guidelines in the Wharfedale manual exactly as it was laid out. So either you clearly do not know what you are talking about or Wharfedale has it wrong? PAGE 5 OF THE MANUAL HERE (I can write in caps too😃) www.wharfedale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Diamond-200_manual-print0725-1.pdf
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 the jumper is to send the signal from the single wire to the two separate crossovers, single wiring. Remove the jumper and run a single wire to the low end and a separate single wire to the high, that makes two sets if wires, bi-wire. Putting the jumper in does not bi-wire the speaker, it is getting information from one set of wires and sending that to the two separate crossovers. Running wire to each crossover separate preventing Intermodulation. One will have to study that on their own if you don't understand the different current speed rates as they enter and exit the different crossovers and speakers. Using a single wire with blocks is not bi-wiring, it is pushing all information to both crossovers through one cable, causing the signals to pass through at different times and causing a traffic jam of sorts. Bi wiring let's each crossover recieve and expell the signal at its pave, not get in the way as each one is putting out a different rate through one wire back to the amp.
Bi wiring makes a difference to me. Instead of the crossover separating a signal into two. It just separates high or low frequency. Plus less resistance from cables. I dont use cheap amp. Cables or speakers.
No difference what so ever and these are good speakers. I think this is the kind of A B example needed to make people understand they are mostly fooling themselves. If there is nothing to gain with this speaker, I would assume (maybe wrongly) the fidelity gains with others speakers would be so low its mostly not worth it. Thanks for the video
I bi wired wharfedale diamond 220 s and Rotel RA810 so not a million miles away from your setup. I noticed a separation from high and low and it definitely didn’t sound as congested but the big thing is music I’ve grown up with and know very well had noises and tune I had never heard before. Don’t expect massive changes in volume , bass and treble like I was expecting. Let the system settle in for a bit , play some of your favourite tunes and Im sure you will notice clarity that was never there before. Hope this helps a wee bit
I couldn't hear any difference, and, when I've tried it with any of my speakers, the bi-wire might have sounded a little clearer, but it also sounded less cohesive, like the sound was coming from two sources, like I was hearing the woofer and tweeter separately, instead of a cohesive sound where they blended together perfectly, which I really didn't care for.
Just listening Id say bi wiring makes trebble a tad more noticeable. And I do mean....a tad. So yeah I hear a difference but I wouldnt say its better or worse. Thanks for the video
Is bi-amping intended only for passive speakers then? what would be the point to bi-amp active speakers otherwise? A noob question but still does my head in.
In my opinion, Bi wiring "works" because you have removed those terrible shorting links that are provided more or less on a "better than nothing" basis. I catagorise them as "packaging" Try keeping the speakers single wired but replacing the shorting links with good quality cable. You will get the same if not better improvement in sound quality.
I think you did a great job even though others say you didn't do it right or it wasn't a good environment for sound. You hooked it up properly, and it should make a difference in sound if there was one with you trial system. I think mileage varies if it works at all. I think using a better wire than the brass looking plate might help more, but dubious there too. Using good wire connected to main terminals seems the way to go in most cases. Weaker systems might benefit from this scheme more. (I did go back an listen again, carefully. I think I did discern a small difference. Now keep in mind I am reversing course on one thing another poster said about it not being the right environment, but he meant your set up. I think not only am I listening through you tube and my system, but I'm not there to evaluate sound stage etc. That being said, what I did hear was I think the treble had more pop, maybe even a little thinner and less controlled in the bass portion. Subdued is good word for the bi-wired scheme. This brings me to agree with you that the system single wired sounds better to me if anything.)
the main purpose of bi-wiring, as I understand things, is to separate the base & mid/treble to produce a cleaner more accurate sound overall. I use to have a Technics set-up that was bi-wired & you Really could tell the difference, especially when playing something like Mike Oldfield's - Tubular Bells II for example... However from the look of your amp set-up in the video, all you managed to do was add an additional cable to each speaker, as your amp isn't Bi-wire capable. Hence the lack of any difference between the audio quality... I could be wrong about your amp? as I don't know it's specs? But the system I had, the amp was designed to accommodate a Bi-wired speaker setup that specifically separated the audio channels.
I actually did another video where I bi-amped the speakers and still didn't hear any discernable difference. I think it comes down to how good the crossover in the speaker is. It's the crossovers job to separate the bass, mid and treble. If it's a good crossover, it's unlikely make any difference when bi-wiring/amping.
Agree.. i have panasonic sa xr-55 av reciever w bi-amp mode i test it many times and i really hear the difference about standard channel vs bi-amp mode . Bi amp mode makes more clear and accurate sound for my observation
If you use four channels on your receiver, instead of two, you have effectively bi-amped the speakers. Bi-wiring is nothing more than adding a second set of wires and, in my experience, this is certainly a worthwhile upgrade.
If you have some nicely optimised power amps, then you can sometimes get a difference, but is it much more than adjusting the power going to the woofer over the power going to the mid/top? Is it any different to just adjusting the bass and treble in the end
@@EsotericArctos bi-wiring uses two pairs of wires. It can be achieved with a single pair of binding posts on the power amp. It doesn’t require a pair of power amps as that would as the name suggests be bi-amping. The separation of the signal down the two pairs of wires is achieved by the crossover filter inside the speaker. This is totally counter intuitive; the assumption being that because the cables both connect to the same binding posts on the amp it must be the same signal. The reason it works is because the speakers are driven not by the voltage across the terminals but the current. The current is inversely proportional to the resistance and the crossover presents a resistive load which varies with frequency. On the bass driver, the inductor in the circuit presents a low equivalent resistance to low frequencies and as frequency rises the resistance also rises. The current does the opposite, hence the current in the bass circuit is only present at low frequencies and not present at higher frequencies above the crossover point. Effectively, this reduces crosstalk between the high current bass frequencies and the lower current mid/high frequencies. Some folks in some systems hear a difference, others do not. With bi-amping exactly the same thing happens, only now you are separating the signal all the way back to the pre-amp output. As the power supplies are now free to only power part of the frequency spectrum and the effects are magnified. More people hear the difference when bi-amping. Using different rated power amps for this is not advisable if you want to maintain a consistent balance in the sound throughout the frequency spectrum for different volume settings. The difference between doing this and using tone controls is that the effect of the tone control will be consistent as it is simply shaping of the frequency response irrespective of volume. Hope this helps. For those who remain unconvinced or are unwilling to shell out for double the length of speaker wire, I recommend at least replacing the nasty plate connectors on the back of most speakers with a very short length of your favourite speaker cable.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Thank you. I had to play both samples many times to find the difference, biwired's volume is slightly lower than the other, if you are absolutely sure volume was kept exactly same at amp level for both sound samples the difference with biwired is lowered volume with a pinch of added subtlety
You can run any speaker with any kind of wire in the world.....it all has to do with conductivity and wire shielding to block noise interference. But yes you can use just regular speaker wire.
Dont use the bridging plates they give you and bridge them using hifi wires to get better quality. You dont need bi wiring. You just need to bridge the speakers with a better conductor.
This focus, which is endemic in discussions of bi-wiring, I find rather ridiculous. The metal plates are at least as thick (most, many times thicker) and of sufficient conductivity compared with the copper tracks on the crossover PCB (printed circuit board) not to mention the other component 'lead-in' wires, that replacing them cannot possibly make any difference - please don't bother to tell me you can hear one.....unless you did the test 'double-blind', that is! Many comments in such posts claim that bi-wiring cannot possibly make a difference (I don't claim it does), and many have gone to extreme lengths to prove it...usually using 'fake-science' (the willing handmaiden of 'fake-news'!) - for a perfect demonstration of this see the CZcams videos on the subject by M Zilch!
I don’t see how bi-wiring would make any difference. Basically the sound comes from the same source just like using single set of cable. Why pay extra for the same result?
In this demo the copper strips on the speakers were doing the same job as those wires were doing. As thats not a bi enabled amp. You need 4 outputs on the amp. Not 2. 👍🏼
Wharfedale actually recommends it in the manual the way I did it. Although I have tried it with a/b speaker outputs here czcams.com/video/h-H6PW452PE/video.html
@HyperTech Electronics Wharfedale must be stupid too. That's exactly how it's recommended in the speakers manual. Also, try taking your caps lock off. 😄
But surely the point of bi-wiring is that you use different types of wire for woofer and tweeter...? Some wire, for example thicker gauge wire, transmits lower frequencies better, some wires transmit higher frequencies better. You use different wire types depending on what effect you want.
I don't hear a difference. I mean all the bi-wiring is doing is replacing the copper jumpers from the speaker posts so why would it make a difference? Its still receiving the same signal from the receiver. I think bi-amping would be the only way to really see a difference.
Bi- wiring as you demonstrated is essential only feeding a thicker cable to the speaker, so not really useful and audible,the REAL purpose and audible benefit can come from BI- AMPING....by means of two separed amps,and through a crosover bevore these amps, so one amp let's say a 20 watt feeds only high tones to the speaker and another,let's say 60 watt feeds the lower tones to the mid- bass speaker, this can give a better sound because less stress on your build in crossover and speakers so effective more cleaner power to you units, so bi- wiring not so usefull, bi-AMPING more usefull I've you gotta the crossover frequencies sorted right and the amps ( money) to do that, at home for most people not really importend, in a disco with loud volumes it's more or less the norm, think of a " basebin" pumping out 120 db all nightlong. At home you would be better of investing in a nice active subwoofer with build in amp and two way crossover.
😂 my friend. Bi-wiring is for 2 amps 1is hi 2is low. With 1 amp u do high pas filter. For other amp you do low pas filter. Then you can reach good result. Also this speaker isnt good for it, but if u take floor standing speakers which bi-wiring high/mid seperated from low/bass drivers, then u see difference. As you will feed 1 speaker with 2 seperate amps, adjusted in seperate frequencys.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK its no point to bi-wiring from 1 single amplifier. By my understanding bi-wiring is option on speakers. Bi-amping is option on amplifiers. Its same as you have 2 bookshelf speakers, and active sub, and you controlling both frequencies separately. If you have only 1 stereo amp, so bi-wiring speakers just pointless
Really interesting! I've never thought biwiring had any merit, but I'm certain I heard a difference between your 2 samples... I kept my eyes closed, listened through decent headphones with an external dac, and opened my eyes when I heard a difference; when it sounded "fuller" I opened my eyes to see "Biwired", and when I next opened my eyes because I felt it sounded slightly "thinner", it was single wired. In a second listen I also thought I heard a SLIGHT difference in the treble presentation. 🤷🏽♂️ I'm no expert and certainly not saying I'm sold on this school of thought, but thank you for giving me reason to consider it.
Non puoi sentire alcuna differenza visto che non c'è nessuna separazione delle frequenze medio alte e le basse frequenze dato che l' ampli ha solo una coppia di connettori io lo utilizzo più che differenze si nota un maggiore gestione della potenza un maggior controllo sulle basse frequenza
Hi love the video. A big deference between the two. Bi wired is more full of lower end sounds. And none Bi wired is thin in sound. Anyone looking / listening to this will not hear the difference unless they have headphones on. The better the headphones the bigger the difference.
There's no point in "bi-wiring" from physics point of view. But: bi-wiring creates a "ground loop" - a loop of two parallel wires connected at the ends forming a giant coil which is prone to picking up electromagnetic noise... So unless one is driving two speaker inputs from different sources (can be same amp but with different spectral drive - highs, lows, etc.) - there's no point in biwiring.
Bi-Wiring is not going to make any difference in sound quality. Your sending the same single to the same cross over network. The only difference would be the increase in wire size by doubling them which can reduce resistance in the wire if your using small gauge wire. Bi-AMPing is something completely different altogether. Having two amplifiers one dedicated to the highs and one dedicated to the mids/lows with the ability to adjust the volume level separately to balance out the sound. A tube amp for the highs and a solid state amp for the mids/lows. Magnepan 3.7s MG3As etc. have the option of having 3 amplifiers per speaker. One for the highs, one for the mids and one for the low end. With a good active crossover you can really make a big improvement in sound.
I have done the same thing and I heard nothing different. That said there are a lot of people who talk about sound like a sommelier talks about wine and I cant taste the difference between wines like they do! So my vanilla ears save me money on speaker wire but I still spend too much on wine!! Thanks for the video.
This was very helpful, simple and straight to the point. Thanks!
Very good video and demonstration. Clear and concise explanation. Many thanks.
Good advice, anticipated result, thank you.
Thanks for the informative video - appreciated.
thanks for the explanation mate
I couldn’t hear the difference from your trial…but looking through comments, it depends on specific audio equipment used????
Again..many thanks for your channel 👍🏻✌🏻🔊🎶🎶🎶🔊🙏🏻
Hi, My 90s kenwood ka3020se, has 2 sets of Speakers A&B, and I have Wharfdale 230s. I had 2 sets of QED cables to each Speaker using both A&B Speakers terminals to Bi-wire, it sounded a bit thin, so put the copper/ gold joining plates back on( like in the video) used 1 set of cables to each speaker ,just using Speakers (A) and sounded fuller, better 😊.
But I will try 2 cables each side, just useing Speakers (A) like on the video. Cheers Grant 👍
Yes I noticed a difference, I have my Yamaha amp and all the goodies with my Audio Centron 150 watt 15 inch speakers by wired and it absolutely definitely makes and more full sound or another way to say it there is more fill in the sound yet remains crisp and sharp when needed and more distorted when listening to distortion sounds.
Sounded the same to me tbh. And as I have 5.1 set up be pointless. Great vid to the point as ever
i took the jumpers off, the terminals on my Wharfadale 9.1 speakers 🔊 and replaced them with solid copper wire ( electrical) about an inch. And I’m also using solid copper…. Short length wire for cables; as opposed to the stranded copper wire online from various companies. Speakers that are bi-wired just means that the tweeter and woofer are separated from thin cables inside the speakers themselves. So it’s done on the outside instead.
Wednesday 12th October 2022. U.K. Southampton.
need major changes sir thanks for share !
Hi! I like simple but good things, so after ~30 years of hi-fi collecting, listening and tryings I ended the difficoult system set ups. I mean that I stayed at a pure stereo system (marantz pm7005 with cd5005 and wh diamond 11.2 loudspeakers).
They not need and not able to bi-wire, not need and not able loudness switch, I not use tone or sub. The sound is great without difficoults. Best regards.
A suggestion. Only biwire one speaker, leave other with single.
Play a mono single. If there is no difference the sound will be identical and appear in the middle.
If there is any difference, the sound will appear wide.
thank you so much for this video ! I sure will try bi wiring as soon as I can. And i also liked the single wired sound more as well. but I think thats because of the banana plugs. They may degrade the sound.
Tried your experiment with my Denon M41 and my Wharfdale 12.2 speakers and the bi/wiring certainly made a difference on my system, producing a fuller sound than using single wiring.
Only because you have less resistance with two sets of wire. Just use a single pair of heavier gauge wire instead. How in the world do you think your amp knows to send low frequencies on one set of wires and the high on the other?
@@JohnSmith-qi6co Maybe his Amplifier has A.I. (Artificial Intelligence)
What is the necessary power output from each individual connection for this to be affective?
I heard the differences and had my eye's closed. You really have to test it on a song that you listen to regularly to hear the difference in the spatial separation between the woofer and tweeter. It certainly changed , was it for the better?, that's subjective and up to your listening taste!
I hear a difference in my speakers, on my system. It's not dramatic, but the highs have just a little more presence. I find it pleasurable. Yamaha amp driving 6 ohm Snell bi-wired bookshelf speakers.
thankyou. something i have been wanting to do for awhile and comparison. Me. 61 year old guy, did not hear a difference. I also have Cambridge audio , axr100 and Wharfedale d320, cd axc35, single wired, awesome for me. thanks
Yes mate do a video on bi- amping please. 😊
Thanks
I want to plug my banana cable to Fosi bt20 pro but i couldn't why maybe my banana cable is 4mm or what?
Kind regards
I noticed a difference. I just got a Denon PMA600 and Wharfedale 220 speakers. I thought that it rounded the sound off nicely and elminated the treble heavy sound associated with standard wiring. It also cleaned up the sound of vinyl nicely
Nice explanation. The first person I've seen go from the speakers to the amp and explain properly what happens at the amp end.
Likewise a good acknowledgement that your using 54 year old ears! It does matter!
If you see difference, try up with multiple drive using floor standers example wharfedale Pacific evo30
They both sounded the same to me, but the bi wired ones maybe sounded just a little bit more richer, but there really isn't a major difference
asuming his microphone i able to capture difference, then audio codec used on youtube, and then your outpud device..
try a blindfold test and check if you hear any difference at all. actually, more wires would just mean more potential RF interference and EMI.
You can hear the upper med base and the separation is more distinct so I guess a clear sound overall with bi wiring. Thank you for the experiment and the explanation on how to do it, too!
i would also just like to add… that, yes there is a vast improvement in sound quality when upgrading to solid copper wire.
i certainly noticed that. I’m using a DVD player with a built in amp; so… basically I’m listening to music straight from the horse’s mouth; so to speak. It seems to me also, that.. the more watts input a speaker has; a much better realistic sound quality you will get.
i recently bought a pair of Moukey speakers ( 3 way 55 watts input) but the Wharfadale 9.1 beats overall.
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I wonder if bi-wiring with an amp that has an A/B speaker output would make any difference (like the Marantz CR612). If not in the quality (since the same signal goes out from the same amp), but maybe in power output and perceived audio "push" at the same level?
I also tried bi amping but I couldn't hear a difference. czcams.com/video/s8unTc9uJns/video.html
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Personally, I thought the single wire playback gave the tweeters a bit more crisp. Granted, that is through ear buds on a lap top from a CZcams video, so the sound quality is not spectacular anyway. But the single wire seemed to offer a little more separation from driver and tweeter. That's just my two cents. great video!
Bi wiring is usually for different spec cable, some cable seems to handle higher frequencies better than others etc. I don't really hear the difference myself but I suspect this is more on the higher end stuff. Like using a tubed amp for the highs with a conversational amp for the lows.
Exactly right 👏as you say bi amping/wiring is something that was created not for powering the highs/mids together and bass individually,it was as you said more of a sound difference in different cables as some cables are brighter or warmer as to match the highs/mids better to your amps charecteristics and others are beefier or thinner at bass sounds and so company's found that by using 2 separate sets of binding posts they could achieve a better sound stage with 2 different sets of cables. tbh I honestly thought that single cables gave a clearer sound stage In this test though.👍
@@miko1975guitar Poor baby dropped is dummy again 🤣
that's what I heared too. Bi wiring works if you usee cables designed for the right frequency range (if that is a thing). At the same time, cable design has undergone improvement to a point where they are "full range". So, that would neutralize bi-wiring. But in the end, I cannot get myself to realy believe in all of this. And my financial resources, neighbours and ageing ears won't allow personal testing.
Good volume sound good got some self thank derek
Great video, thanks! What wires were you using? What would you recommend fo a Wharfedale 85th anniversary and an integrated amp? Cheers...
I'm just using Amazon Basics. Really good for the price if your cable requirement is under 5 metres. amzn.to/35GqO0J
Bi-wiring out of the same (amp-side) binding post set into (speaker-side) several binding posts has an effect based on cable (!) properties which affect different frequency ranges (one of several physics explanations is 'skin effect' - in short: resistance of the cable is frequency-dependent, the higher the frequency the more the current runs only on the outside of one wire core). I.e., bi-wiring only does something if you are indeed using different cables (e.g., different thickness of the cable cores, different material mix of cores, different thickness of total cable).
Note: This has nothing to do with (expensive) cable voodoo, but rather say e.g., you want to use a thinner cable (or one with less cores) for the high frequencies' range - you could reach the effect to tone a bright speaker a bit down.
Whether this will result in audible difference, is up to (your) test. But: bi-wiring allows you to separate the effect that cable properties have on the sound for the two different frequency ranges. Hence: it gives you an extra parameter to tweak sound.
What you show in your video is consistent: if you use the same wire, you will have almost no effect. (Except: it might transmit 'more' power in total - but that would be reached also by using a thicker cable with more cores or twin cables into the same speaker binding post)
Try changing the Connecting plates for wire does make a differance.
2:12. The only change made here is that the impedance of the cable used is halved - from 0.2 ohm to 0.1 ohm.
The point of bi-wiring is to use separate amps - one for each cabinet, ones with balance controls to tune the music played.
Otherwise its just hype, because a cabinet speaker is set to produce a flat response. Bass and treble controls interfere with that response.
No incorrect, when a speaker is bi-wired the cross-over has two separate earth routes, so the large currents drawn by the bass -mid unit do not travel the same route as the treble signal. In a single wired installation the bass signal will modulate i.e. distort the relatively tiny treble signal, causing the speaker to sound less clear and make the music harder to follow.
Bi-amping a loudspeaker with identical amps that have same gain and quality level will result in a massive increase in clarity and musical enjoyment.
I think what you're describing is bi-amping. Bi-wiring is pointless unless using different cables for woofer and tweeter.
I think to really get proper channel separation (my amp has 8 speaker posts) and I run A+B speaker output (basically as Low + high) and then wired at the speaker as you show. this way my Highs are coming from completely separate channel B on Amp. Lows on Channel A. What you've done is just separate the cables after the signal left the amp on same channel? I think this would achieve better results. Be sure to follow the wiring schematic for your amp as youre running 4 cables with 4 ends each (16 connections) and proper wiring matters.
It's hard to tell any difference, but of course it's through you tube and my speaker system. I really tried to hear something, but I think whatever I am hearing is my imagination, because I want there to be since it seems extra wire, and separate connections should make a difference.
I always thought bi-wiring required 2 sets of outputs on the amp? When I bi-wired my mission 774’s my Pioneer amp had 2 sets of outputs and I utilised both. I could hear a definite difference.
You are thinking about bi-amping.
Same nothing change
Well no notriceable change in my KRK studio setup ;)
Of course its worth it, your halving the cables impedance and separating the drivers at the amps output, on long lengths of cable of 12ft and over biwiring is the way to go, same principle as adding dropper wires to a model railway, without them the train will slow down after about 20feet
actually bi amping is a BIG no no unless you have 2 identical amplifiers
Bi-wiring is for the use of separate amps, and bypass the internal crossover network. You need a active crossover behind the pre-amp, and 4 channels of amplification. Just adding more copper wiring to the chain, will not make things sound “better”
Using separate amps is 'bi-amping' and not bi-wiring. I agree that adding more cable to the chain will not improve the sound, which was made clear in the video. This is what the manufacturers of the speakers put in their manuals. I wanted to show that it was a bad way. I explain in more depth in this video czcams.com/video/_5FH2tKONQ4/video.html
@@UTILITARIANTVUK for bi-amping we use bi-wiring ;-)
Would it make more difference if the amplifier has A and B outputs for biwiring, or using 2 amplifiers at all for the biwirings?
Although some people suggest otherwise, using A/B outputs wouldn't make a difference. Using two amplifiers (Bi-Amping) is very different from Bi-Wiring and also more costly but you may hear a difference?
i dont really hear any difference here..but definitely heard on mine which biwiring makes my tweeter's high freq sounds more defined and less noisy...i bi wire it via custom braided twist cables which in theorically helps cancel noises
You prob don't have enough power or didn't do it right, or wrong specs in general. I have Yamaha NS555 tower speakers with a pretty old Yamaha a/v and I run biwired via speakers A&B. 1 pair goes to A, other pair to B. If I turn off A, only bass plays, turn off B, only highs play. So it seems more power to the tower (haa that rhymes) and louder when both in. Same length heavy gauge weird 6'for all 4 wires. Wonder what would happen if I left them both with jumpers, more power/volume????
The bi wiring to me produced a fuller sound as opposed to the single wiring which sounded tinny but being over 50 my hearing could be suspect too. Thoroughly enjoyed your video though, so thank you.
I can placebo myself into hearing it but I dont think it's there. If it's that impercievably minimal it's pointless to me.
It actually sounded better with the single wire. 😂 The bass was stronger, unless maybe there was a slight volume difference.
Im 22 and I personally couldn't really tell the difference during the first part of the song between the two. In the second part though the Bi wiring had a little more punch in the bass frequencies compared to the single wiring. I've got a hifi system that I'm trying to set up with polk audio RM2000 monitor speakers, RM1000 Subwoofer, CS150 centre monitor and 2 JVC SP ES5 bookshelf speakers for surround sound. I'm trying it out with music production :)
Bi-amping is probably where any discernible audio differences will show up . My 65 year old ears wouldn't realize it though lol .
Ha! Yeah high ends are gone! 😂
Bi amping is worth it, I tried it and definitely notice the difference. Bi wiring I didn't notice any difference
Thank god. I am only 64 then.
What I do run is run a small wire by the speaker from the one port to the other. Those plates were actually working as bi wire in the same way, which is why you probably heard no difference.
This is exactly what I was thinking.....this guy clearly has no idea what he is doing. Most higher end speakers that are bi-wire capable come with a jumper in them to make them bi-wired straight from the factory. The jumpers are made of metal hence it being a conductor of sound. This is exactly why he heard absolutely no different BECAUSE THERE WAS NONE!!! LOL. Besides he needs to buy a nice set of OCC Bi-Wired 2-4 banana cables. If he just would listen to the speakers with the wires connected to just the bottom (low) connection on the back of speaker (WITHOUT THE JUMPER IN) and then wire it how you have speaker wire going to both sets of positive and negative terminals on the back of speaker and tell me if you don't hear a difference then!!?? .......THATS BI-WIRING
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 Not really, just check the Wharfedale specs and you'll see that for a standard connection you need to keep the metal plates (the signal needs to go to both crossovers, otherwise you'll get only highs or lows) and for bi-wiring you need to remove it so the same signal goes to both crossovers again but using 2 different conductors this time as it supposedly reduces the intermodulation effects. Electrically bi-wiring creates a parallel connection with the same voltage through both wires however with different currents. These being said, if it makes and audible difference or not it depends on the listener. (further reading www.qacoustics.co.uk/blog/2016/06/08/bi-wiring-speakers-exploration-benefits/ )
I literally followed the guidelines in the Wharfedale manual exactly as it was laid out. So either you clearly do not know what you are talking about or Wharfedale has it wrong? PAGE 5 OF THE MANUAL HERE (I can write in caps too😃) www.wharfedale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Diamond-200_manual-print0725-1.pdf
@@thomasfitzgerald2595 the jumper is to send the signal from the single wire to the two separate crossovers, single wiring. Remove the jumper and run a single wire to the low end and a separate single wire to the high, that makes two sets if wires, bi-wire. Putting the jumper in does not bi-wire the speaker, it is getting information from one set of wires and sending that to the two separate crossovers. Running wire to each crossover separate preventing Intermodulation. One will have to study that on their own if you don't understand the different current speed rates as they enter and exit the different crossovers and speakers. Using a single wire with blocks is not bi-wiring, it is pushing all information to both crossovers through one cable, causing the signals to pass through at different times and causing a traffic jam of sorts. Bi wiring let's each crossover recieve and expell the signal at its pave, not get in the way as each one is putting out a different rate through one wire back to the amp.
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Honestly even from phone speakers i could here the difference. The mids and highs have their own definition, seperated from the bass
Bi wiring makes a difference to me. Instead of the crossover separating a signal into two. It just separates high or low frequency. Plus less resistance from cables. I dont use cheap amp. Cables or speakers.
That's literally not how bi-wiring works.
Lol. Crossover is still engaged with biwiring.
No difference what so ever and these are good speakers. I think this is the kind of A B example needed to make people understand they are mostly fooling themselves. If there is nothing to gain with this speaker, I would assume (maybe wrongly) the fidelity gains with others speakers would be so low its mostly not worth it. Thanks for the video
I could not tell a single bit of difference to be fair, but saying that, I am still going to Bi-wire my new Klipsch speakers since I have the option.
I bi-wired my Klipsch RM-600's and couldn't really tell a difference using my Yamaha A680 amp. It might have gotten a little louder, but not much.
@@markkennedy7957. I got a pair of 600m speakers last week to act as my surrounds. Will be Bi-wiring them too.
I think a lot of the commentatators need to get out more
I bi wired wharfedale diamond 220 s and Rotel RA810 so not a million miles away from your setup. I noticed a separation from high and low and it definitely didn’t sound as congested but the big thing is music I’ve grown up with and know very well had noises and tune I had never heard before. Don’t expect massive changes in volume , bass and treble like I was expecting. Let the system settle in for a bit , play some of your favourite tunes and Im sure you will notice clarity that was never there before. Hope this helps a wee bit
I couldn't hear any difference, and, when I've tried it with any of my speakers, the bi-wire might have sounded a little clearer, but it also sounded less cohesive, like the sound was coming from two sources, like I was hearing the woofer and tweeter separately, instead of a cohesive sound where they blended together perfectly, which I really didn't care for.
Just listening Id say bi wiring makes trebble a tad more noticeable. And I do mean....a tad. So yeah I hear a difference but I wouldnt say its better or worse. Thanks for the video
Is bi-amping intended only for passive speakers then? what would be the point to bi-amp active speakers otherwise? A noob question but still does my head in.
I'm not sure that you can bi-amp an active speaker as an active speaker has its own amp. There may be some out there but it's rare.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK that's what i thought, thanks for clarifying
In my opinion, Bi wiring "works" because you have removed those terrible shorting links that are provided more or less on a "better than nothing" basis. I catagorise them as "packaging" Try keeping the speakers single wired but replacing the shorting links with good quality cable. You will get the same if not better improvement in sound quality.
I think you did a great job even though others say you didn't do it right or it wasn't a good environment for sound. You hooked it up properly, and it should make a difference in sound if there was one with you trial system. I think mileage varies if it works at all. I think using a better wire than the brass looking plate might help more, but dubious there too. Using good wire connected to main terminals seems the way to go in most cases. Weaker systems might benefit from this scheme more. (I did go back an listen again, carefully. I think I did discern a small difference. Now keep in mind I am reversing course on one thing another poster said about it not being the right environment, but he meant your set up. I think not only am I listening through you tube and my system, but I'm not there to evaluate sound stage etc. That being said, what I did hear was I think the treble had more pop, maybe even a little thinner and less controlled in the bass portion. Subdued is good word for the bi-wired scheme. This brings me to agree with you that the system single wired sounds better to me if anything.)
I’m 56 and the bi-wiring sounded fuller , richer well to me
the main purpose of bi-wiring, as I understand things, is to separate the base & mid/treble to produce a cleaner more accurate sound overall. I use to have a Technics set-up that was bi-wired & you Really could tell the difference, especially when playing something like Mike Oldfield's - Tubular Bells II for example... However from the look of your amp set-up in the video, all you managed to do was add an additional cable to each speaker, as your amp isn't Bi-wire capable. Hence the lack of any difference between the audio quality... I could be wrong about your amp? as I don't know it's specs? But the system I had, the amp was designed to accommodate a Bi-wired speaker setup that specifically separated the audio channels.
I actually did another video where I bi-amped the speakers and still didn't hear any discernable difference. I think it comes down to how good the crossover in the speaker is. It's the crossovers job to separate the bass, mid and treble. If it's a good crossover, it's unlikely make any difference when bi-wiring/amping.
Agree.. i have panasonic sa xr-55 av reciever w bi-amp mode i test it many times and i really hear the difference about standard channel vs bi-amp mode . Bi amp mode makes more clear and accurate sound for my observation
If you use four channels on your receiver, instead of two, you have effectively bi-amped the speakers. Bi-wiring is nothing more than adding a second set of wires and, in my experience, this is certainly a worthwhile upgrade.
If you have some nicely optimised power amps, then you can sometimes get a difference, but is it much more than adjusting the power going to the woofer over the power going to the mid/top?
Is it any different to just adjusting the bass and treble in the end
@@EsotericArctos bi-wiring uses two pairs of wires. It can be achieved with a single pair of binding posts on the power amp. It doesn’t require a pair of power amps as that would as the name suggests be bi-amping.
The separation of the signal down the two pairs of wires is achieved by the crossover filter inside the speaker. This is totally counter intuitive; the assumption being that because the cables both connect to the same binding posts on the amp it must be the same signal.
The reason it works is because the speakers are driven not by the voltage across the terminals but the current. The current is inversely proportional to the resistance and the crossover presents a resistive load which varies with frequency.
On the bass driver, the inductor in the circuit presents a low equivalent resistance to low frequencies and as frequency rises the resistance also rises. The current does the opposite, hence the current in the bass circuit is only present at low frequencies and not present at higher frequencies above the crossover point.
Effectively, this reduces crosstalk between the high current bass frequencies and the lower current mid/high frequencies. Some folks in some systems hear a difference, others do not.
With bi-amping exactly the same thing happens, only now you are separating the signal all the way back to the pre-amp output. As the power supplies are now free to only power part of the frequency spectrum and the effects are magnified. More people hear the difference when bi-amping.
Using different rated power amps for this is not advisable if you want to maintain a consistent balance in the sound throughout the frequency spectrum for different volume settings. The difference between doing this and using tone controls is that the effect of the tone control will be consistent as it is simply shaping of the frequency response irrespective of volume.
Hope this helps. For those who remain unconvinced or are unwilling to shell out for double the length of speaker wire, I recommend at least replacing the nasty plate connectors on the back of most speakers with a very short length of your favourite speaker cable.
I don’t see the point in having this option since most AVRs do not have spare capacity for extra terminals.
No difference... unless you have elephant ears 😂
Hi, what speakers are these? They sound good, and what receiver?
Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 speakers and Cambridge audio A1 mark 1 amp.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Thank you. I had to play both samples many times to find the difference, biwired's volume is slightly lower than the other, if you are absolutely sure volume was kept exactly same at amp level for both sound samples the difference with biwired is lowered volume with a pinch of added subtlety
Could u run these speakers with just speaker wire?
You can run any speaker with any kind of wire in the world.....it all has to do with conductivity and wire shielding to block noise interference. But yes you can use just regular speaker wire.
bi-wiring effectively doubles your wire gauge, when you bi-wiring 14 gauge, it effectively makes into 11 gauge
What happens to impedance when bi-wired?
It's possible for biwiring to make a small impact on impedance but if you use decent cable it's unlikely.
Impedence is ohm level....whatever your speakers ohm is from factory will continue to be the same load whether you bi-wire it or not.
Dont use the bridging plates they give you and bridge them using hifi wires to get better quality. You dont need bi wiring.
You just need to bridge the speakers with a better conductor.
This focus, which is endemic in discussions of bi-wiring, I find rather ridiculous. The metal plates are at least as thick (most, many times thicker) and of sufficient conductivity compared with the copper tracks on the crossover PCB (printed circuit board) not to mention the other component 'lead-in' wires, that replacing them cannot possibly make any difference - please don't bother to tell me you can hear one.....unless you did the test 'double-blind', that is!
Many comments in such posts claim that bi-wiring cannot possibly make a difference (I don't claim it does), and many have gone to extreme lengths to prove it...usually using 'fake-science' (the willing handmaiden of 'fake-news'!) - for a perfect demonstration of this see the CZcams videos on the subject by M Zilch!
I don’t see how bi-wiring would make any difference. Basically the sound comes from the same source just like using single set of cable. Why pay extra for the same result?
In this demo the copper strips on the speakers were doing the same job as those wires were doing. As thats not a bi enabled amp. You need 4 outputs on the amp. Not 2. 👍🏼
Wharfedale actually recommends it in the manual the way I did it. Although I have tried it with a/b speaker outputs here czcams.com/video/h-H6PW452PE/video.html
@HyperTech Electronics Wharfedale must be stupid too. That's exactly how it's recommended in the speakers manual. Also, try taking your caps lock off. 😄
That is bi-amping. This video is about bi-wiring 😂
But surely the point of bi-wiring is that you use different types of wire for woofer and tweeter...? Some wire, for example thicker gauge wire, transmits lower frequencies better, some wires transmit higher frequencies better. You use different wire types depending on what effect you want.
I don't hear a difference. I mean all the bi-wiring is doing is replacing the copper jumpers from the speaker posts so why would it make a difference? Its still receiving the same signal from the receiver. I think bi-amping would be the only way to really see a difference.
Bi- wiring as you demonstrated is essential only feeding a thicker cable to the speaker, so not really useful and audible,the REAL purpose and audible benefit can come from BI- AMPING....by means of two separed amps,and through a crosover bevore these amps, so one amp let's say a 20 watt feeds only high tones to the speaker and another,let's say 60 watt feeds the lower tones to the mid- bass speaker, this can give a better sound because less stress on your build in crossover and speakers so effective more cleaner power to you units, so bi- wiring
not so usefull, bi-AMPING more usefull I've you gotta the crossover frequencies sorted right and the amps ( money) to do that, at home for most people not really importend, in a disco with loud volumes it's more or less the norm, think of a " basebin" pumping out 120 db all nightlong.
At home you would be better of investing in a nice active subwoofer with build in amp and two way crossover.
It’s called ‘ positive and negative’ !
I think you need to focus more on the positive?
What the plates on rear of the speaker?
They are bi-wire jumper plates which connect the low and high frequencies. You use them when the speaker is single wired.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK lost one of mine so I need to order one. F-200 klipsch tower speaker.
@@MrKike1313 you can also use a jumper cable. amzn.to/3NXWymp
😂 my friend. Bi-wiring is for 2 amps 1is hi 2is low. With 1 amp u do high pas filter. For other amp you do low pas filter. Then you can reach good result. Also this speaker isnt good for it, but if u take floor standing speakers which bi-wiring high/mid seperated from low/bass drivers, then u see difference. As you will feed 1 speaker with 2 seperate amps, adjusted in seperate frequencys.
What you are referring to is bi-amping and not bi-wiring. 👍
@@UTILITARIANTVUK its no point to bi-wiring from 1 single amplifier. By my understanding bi-wiring is option on speakers. Bi-amping is option on amplifiers. Its same as you have 2 bookshelf speakers, and active sub, and you controlling both frequencies separately. If you have only 1 stereo amp, so bi-wiring speakers just pointless
Bi wiring has more sharpness/airy and air to it whereas to none BI is dry and dull
Really interesting! I've never thought biwiring had any merit, but I'm certain I heard a difference between your 2 samples... I kept my eyes closed, listened through decent headphones with an external dac, and opened my eyes when I heard a difference; when it sounded "fuller" I opened my eyes to see "Biwired", and when I next opened my eyes because I felt it sounded slightly "thinner", it was single wired. In a second listen I also thought I heard a SLIGHT difference in the treble presentation. 🤷🏽♂️ I'm no expert and certainly not saying I'm sold on this school of thought, but thank you for giving me reason to consider it.
Only sense with Bi-wiring is by using specific high and low freq wiring
how can anyone tell, listening to it on a phone
The sensible ones use headphones. 😃
I doubt there is anyone younger than you watching this video!
35-44 years 7%, 45-54 years 27%. (I'm 57) 😁
Non puoi sentire alcuna differenza visto che non c'è nessuna separazione delle frequenze medio alte e le basse frequenze dato che l' ampli ha solo una coppia di connettori io lo utilizzo più che differenze si nota un maggiore gestione della potenza un maggior controllo sulle basse frequenza
You have to use bi amp then it will make difference
you need a 4 channel amp to bi wire properly
Hi love the video. A big deference between the two. Bi wired is more full of lower end sounds. And none Bi wired is thin in sound. Anyone looking / listening to this will not hear the difference unless they have headphones on. The better the headphones the bigger the difference.
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amp needs to have another set of outputs
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Not for Bi-wiring! You are thinking bi-amping
There's no point in "bi-wiring" from physics point of view. But: bi-wiring creates a "ground loop" - a loop of two parallel wires connected at the ends forming a giant coil which is prone to picking up electromagnetic noise... So unless one is driving two speaker inputs from different sources (can be same amp but with different spectral drive - highs, lows, etc.) - there's no point in biwiring.
I heard absolutely no change.
seems HF range is little better, btw, I am i 30
I am listening through headphones, but can not hear any difference.
Biwirring is only made so they can sell more speaker cable
Your kidding right
Lol
Didnt really hear difference.
I think whatever difference can be because when you bi wire, you are using more wire. It might help with long connections.
Bi-Wiring is not going to make any difference in sound quality. Your sending the same single to the same cross over network. The only difference would be the increase in wire size by doubling them which can reduce resistance in the wire if your using small gauge wire. Bi-AMPing is something completely different altogether. Having two amplifiers one dedicated to the highs and one dedicated to the mids/lows with the ability to adjust the volume level separately to balance out the sound. A tube amp for the highs and a solid state amp for the mids/lows. Magnepan 3.7s MG3As etc. have the option of having 3 amplifiers per speaker. One for the highs, one for the mids and one for the low end. With a good active crossover you can really make a big improvement in sound.