What Really Happened on Superman - Ride Of Steel Six Flags New England May 1st 2004?
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- Around 3pm on May 1st 2004 Superman Ride Of Steel at Six Flags New England was operating normally. A train sat in the station being loaded. This loading cycle was somewhat abnormal as a rider was being loaded through the rides exit. This rider would end up being ejected from the ride due to 4 main factors.
Mentioned other accident: • What Really Happened o...
El Toro Ryan's video on this ride: • The Accident-Prone Sup...
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The person behind the victim was a real hero. Noticing they were loose, and trying to hold them down is not something everyone would do
I hope they know they did the best they could.
@@whitewolf262
Of cause they did there's only so much you can hold. It wouldn't make a diffence the fact they did it is impressive.
@@TheAazahWhile I totally agree with you, and logically they should know there’s nothing they could’ve done, witnessing something so traumatic can really impair a person’s perception of events. Survivor’s guilt is a horrible thing. I just hope the thorough inquest into the events that unfolded offered them some peace of mind.
I agree it’s not something most people would do. I know it wouldn’t really change the outcome but it’s the thought and the effort. I might have tried to hold him down too if I saw he was getting airtime that wasn’t normal.
Maybe not in America but the rest of the world is a bit more civilised
I love how the answer to making these rides safer always ends up being something that B&M was already doing…
everybody likes to rip B&M for making "forceless" rides but their rides are safe and reliable. Intamin rides tend to break down a lot and occasionally kill people
@@dindog22 also B&M’s rides aren’t “forceless”. They just aren’t as intense as RMCs or Intamins. But that also makes them far more rerideable.
@@JVR10893 I personally like the B&M rides more because they’re graceful and smooth. Frankly I’m getting older and I can’t really take the super intense rides.
@@dindog22 even though my favorite roller coaster is an Intamin, I consider B&M to be the best roller coaster manufacturer, because nobody is more consistent.
B&M is my favourite ride manufacturer. I think its the smoothness and their reputation that probably does it for me.
as a disabled, plus-sized coaster enthusiast, this specific accident has always terrified me. i’ve had to learn to recognize when a certain ride might not be safe for me, especially since ride operators may feel awkward telling me that i’m too big to ride.
I have seen ride operators tell a larger rider that they can’t ride but not before giving it the their best efforts to try and help them fit into the restraints. If they can’t, they seem to tell the rider in the kindest way possible and so far the larger riders seem to take it well. There were only a couple of times I saw that the rider was visibly upset. Both were female and they left abruptly almost like they were storming off. I always feel bad because they have to get off while the rest of their friends and family get to ride. That’s got to be pretty humiliating. Back in the 80s when I was fearless, it never even occurred to me that larger people would be unsafe to ride. Until in 1978 a morbidly obese young woman boarded Colossus. She never made it back to the station as she was ejected from her seat right after the 2nd drop on a camelback speed hill. But even then to see a rider that size was something of an anomaly. It wasn’t common like it is now. To this day I still don’t know the whole story of what really happened. I was still in grade school at that time.
If you choose to eat the equivalent of 4-5 people, every day you can't expect to just live a normal life. Society should not have to change because people can't stop eating
@@James-kv6kb yeah us non brain melted people usually call it morbidly obese, but that is problematic now I guess
@@noahhare2272 the only reason Americans came up with political correctness is so that this sort of thing can be normalised . If you can't say to someone your grossly fat they'll keep going and spending their money with the food corporations
@@James-kv6kb Wow dude that was so edgy and controversial. Now try saying something true and beautiful.
I don’t have a disability, but I went to an amusement park once with a broken ankle and they gave me a list of rides that I could and couldn’t ride. It was very helpful!! Sometimes they won’t even let you on if you have a brace or cast on at all.
I was ride op i my youth at six flags st Louis. I was what I consider well trained. I worked all the major coasters and I can tell you the safety rules are there for a purpose. I cannot tell you how many times I had to push lap restraints down, full on, to teens and 20 somethings who were trying to get out of the station with being fully secured. they were looking for a more thrilling "loose" ride and I was trying not to have pick up body parts after an accident. As I got old and fat I had to quit riding bigger coasters, I know I cannot climb down a 200 foot tall lift hill at my age and arthritis level. I refuse to be a danger to those that have to rescue or assist me in an emergency evacuation. Use the restraints and don't act like you don't know you are to big to get safely on a ride.
I am bigger and i think all rides should have a test seat outside the ride
i'll never understand the loose rider types.
I actually have to ask all my ride ops for a big push to make sure it's as tight as humanly possible as almost all I've seen only do a cursory grab at it, a quick lift, and then move on. My least favorite feeling ever is when you can barely not get the last click down on a racheting restraint.
I'm autistic and have sensory issues (which is why I like g forces in the first place lol), so I'm a huge fan of hydraulic restraints as they can get as tight as my heart desires (which is as tight as whatever vaginal euphamism you prefer plus some; the extra pressure feels nice) (also I have adhd too so expect footnotes lmao)
Anyway, my point is I was riding the Iron Rattler at Six Flags Fiesta Texas early in the day one time and got put in the very last row for capacity reasons. I'm a fan of intense experiences, but I also had never ridden the back row, have an anxiety disorder, and that was our first ride of the day (future me note: I've ridden Iron Gwazi's back row since then and the rattler's first drop feels more intense even though the stats suggest otherwise. Fuck you, fight me, I will die on this hill)
I asked the ride op for the biggest push he could possibly do, and I swear to god this man bore down like an olympic sprinter ready to launch and put his entire weight, musculature, and *soul* into a shove that knocked the wind outta me and came about a millimeter from cutting off circulation in my legs
I was in heaven. I could have stayed in that seat all day. Whoever you are, if you ever even end up reading this Mr. Best Ride Op In The History Of Mankind, you are a fucking saint and I still remember you
... and the damn ride still found a way to put space between my butt and the seat xD
I remember seeing a coaster reviewer complain about not getting "air time" on superman due to the newer restraints, which was odd to me because I absolutely love them as a thin person who rarely had lap bars touch my lap throughout a majority of my coaster riding experiences.
While I am not downplaying the severity of the accident in any way, that coaster reviewer was right. There are better ways to ensure rider safety without completely killing the ride experience. Similar rides by the same manufacturer with the same restraints have been operating accident free for decades, and these are regarded as some of the best coasters in the world. Superman with the original restraints is one of the best steel coasters ever. With the new restraints, most enthusiasts don't even have it in their top 20. Implenting safety measures similar to these other coasters would have been a better option than totally bricking the ride with the overhauled restraints.
I have to admit, "Accidents are inevitable, but what is an acceptable number?" is not - necessarily - the line I'd wanna hear from a ride manufacturer, to be entirely honest with you. I understand that perfection is impossible, freak accidents happen, etc., but something about that makes me feel like they didn't want to try to do better, they wanted to say "Ah, well, alas, it's inevitable" and move on. Which, well. I'm kinda glad the popularity of their products declined in the aftermath.
Some minor accidents may be "unavoidable", but getting fucking ejected from your seat sure isn't.
Well, accidents will always happen and keep in mind that amusement parks consider things like tripping and getting injured, or spraining your ankle or a nosebleed to be technically ‘accidents’.
I mean it's probably true, but certainly not what you should say in this situation. Definitely passing the buck on his part.
Its a statement that is true but deceptive. Yes, not all accidents can be reasonably prevented, but that is a distraction from how this one absolutely could be prevented, by better restraint design. The primary line of defense against accidents should never be human monitoring.
@@rebekahwolkiewicz449 Ah yes, check it out folks. What we have here is a textbook example of a truly classic youtube comment format: guy tries to look smart only to end up looking like a big ol' dummy when their attempt at being "technically correct" falls flat because whatever point they're attempting to make isn't actually relevant or applicable to the situation. Typically, this occurs when someone believes they are always the smartest one in the room, even in situations in which they have little to no knowledge of the subject, ultimately resulting in them regurgitating any tidbit they can recall hearing that's even the slightest bit related to what is being discussed, regardless of whether or not the level in which the two hold any sort of relation is so shallow and vague that it ends up being completely useless to the discussion being held.
Obviously the ride manufacturer isn't referring to people tripping on some random sidewalk at a theme park. Based on the context of the rest of the statement, the reason he provided this statement in the first place, his position as an executive of a large, multinationional ride-manufacturer, ability to comprehend the spoken word, etc., it's pretty clear he's specifically referring to ride-related accidents. So no, we don't need to keep this in mind because it's not relevant to the post you replied to, which didn't say "i don't like what that guy said, if I'm at an amusement park and my nose starts bleeding while I'm waiting in line to get funnel cake than I'm gonna be pissed." What they said was they didn't want to hear the president of a ride-manufacturing company say that there should be an acceptable number of accidents, with the implication being the types of accidents in question are of a similar nature to the one that is the subject of this video since his statement was in direct response to the backlash his company received because of it, that can occur on any particular ride about which people aren't allowed to feel angry.
Another layer of hilarity here is that your comment is just regurgitating something you heard in another one of Coster College's videos lmao. It's been at least a year since I watched it and I'm not goingt o waste more time going through his videos to find the exact one, but i'm pretty sure it's from a video where he discusses how safe roller coasters really are despite what the popular opinion or view may be. He mentions the number of accidents that occur at themeparks each year but mentions the number includes every minor accident that may occur at a themepark, even if it is the sort of thing which could've occurred anywhere and wasn't directly caused by a ride or anything else found at a park. So what happened is you saw that video, maybe recently, and then, when you read a comment that mentioned both "accidents" and "theme parks", a couple neurons in your brain (who really are just trying their best) went "no way, check out this little factoid we found that also mentions "accidents" and "theme parks" at the same time!"
My fiancée is disabled, and the amount of people who are outright against the ADA is already discouraging. But to hear a company president outright say that is appalling.
Yea... Usually videos like these remind me how safe the industry is. I have similar thoughts when I watch some other similar series about things like aviation...
Usually these companies are then forced to look inwards and make changes. Intamin basically just blamed the ADA. Awful.
I love some of their rides, but is that really what they think of safety and the disabled population?
@@jdonovan74 Generally speaking, yeah. Most companies and the higher ups therein think that little of us. It’s pretty common that on higher floors the policy for how to evacuate those who can’t use the stairs (including schools) is…. Not to. Instead they are told to wait in a designated area for firefighters to come get them. I don’t think I have to explain why this _feels_ more like ‘where to find your body’ than ‘where to be rescued’….
@@OcarinaLink24 Yup. If my disability ever gets to the point where I’m wheelchair bound, I’ll never live higher than the first floor of a building. And if for some reason there’s no choice, I’d rather launch myself down the stairs in an emergency if it comes to it lol
Yeah, good luck trying to get a job if you're physically disabled.
The accident report says that seatbelts in the front rows of cars had “eleven extra inches to adjust compared to the seats in the second row”… that’s crazy that there was that big of a difference (or really, any difference at all, given that the lab bars are the same)
This is my biggest fear as a larger rider. But I always know that restraints like this are meant to sit close to the hips, not on the stomach. And I always keep that in mind.
I have some conditions that restrains have an impact on and learning how they should be sitting on me did wonders for getting over my fear of coasters! I think it's important for everyone to be informed of how restraints on each ride should be sitting on them in case they're done wrong
Do some workout so you become fearless
@@TakodaTGL 2/10
- points for unoriginality
+ points for trying to mask it as positivity
@@TakodaTGL oh yeah, I must have forgotten how weight loss works. Thanks for the reminder! 🙄
@@wendyjaa Well if you know what it is go for it. I don't need to tell you it's healthy
wake up babe there’s a new coaster college what really happened? video
I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS LOL
MY HOPE WILL NEVA DAIYAAA
It’s the irl ride the cyclone channel lol
I had no idea there was another ejection on this ride, at another park. Being local to the Darien Lake Six Flags, I hear about the more infamous case constantly- Really interested to hear more about the comparisons in your upcoming video!
I thought it was that one at first. The darien lake one ruined me. When I was on a trip there as a kid, I was too big for Superman and the attendant wouldn't let me on.
Dude might have saved my life.
@@Crocogator While I'm sorry to hear you had to be turned away, I'm infinitely happier to hear the attendants did their due diligence for your safety! Happy park-going :^)
And there's two accident involving batman the ride, both of them passed away
@@hanthonyc I think there's a comment thread of mine on another video here about the darien lake incident. But yeah. Long story short: I felt bad and slighted at the time, but in hindsight, some random teenager made sure I didn't get flung into a support beam.
I thought it was Darien Lake too - I kept being like “why are they referring to Western NY as ‘New England’??” haha
Regarding the operators and noticing the restraint issue... I strongly suspect there's more to it than them simply not noticing the problem. I suspect that fear of a customer tantrum distorted their perception of the problem's seriousness. Which means their training - and Six Flags' work culture - did not sufficiently emphasize that customer safety is more important than customer appeasement. My suspicion is backed up by the Darien Lake incident.
Okay, I want to shove Sandor Kernacs' legs in a woodchipper now.
As a thusie, I love roller coasters... however, as someone with physical disabilities (particularly those in the neck), I understand the need to exercise caution and avoid rides that could literally kill me. I don't understand how people ignore warning after warning, and then act surprised when something tragic happens. That being said, Intamin has a long history of pushing boundaries and their customers reaping the consequences.
Had a lot of fun making the NL2 coaster in this video, thanks again for the opportunity!
The Guy who died was behind me in line while boarding Mind Eraser. Due to him being over 300 Lbs, he had to lie to get on. He caused the Train to blow past the first set of Brakes at the end of the run which tripped the Sensor and caused the Emergency Brakes to bring the Train to an Immediate stop. I came off that Ride with Whiplash, and it was the last time I ever went on that thing.
Great video as always man! I always love these. Thanks for the shoutout at the end also!
Thanks, love how both our videos on this ride can complement each other!
@@CoasterCollege yes! They absolutely complement each other!
The coaster youtube goat himself
Okay. Over sixty feet of distance. That's terrifying.
yeah, i just converted it to meters, cos i do not really work in feet and good gods yeah that is scary
i know this might seem like a weird/bad thing to focus on, but... what the hell do you do with yourself after something like this when you're the ride operator (or one of them) that caused something like this? obviously it's more accurate to say that it was caused by the park itself (and intamin to a degree) and i'm sure in the vast majority of these cases that the operators are doing as they've been told (or at least not doing anything they've been told not to do) but i just can't imagine what it would be like to have to go on with your life after this sort of incident
I was wondering where that person is today, too.
I'd imagine you leave the park immediately if allowed and just barely survive the shift if you can't, at least after you've dealt with the immediate reprecussions and done all necessary paperwork. Get home, make a nice pot of tea, and stare at the wall for several hours. Maybe take a nice hot bath and just stew in there and let it process. Journal about it once you feel ready (probably not that day lol). Then decide if this moment is the moment you say 'fuck it' and leave the industry or if it's the moment you vow you'll never let anything happen on your watch again.
Either that or distract yourself for years of treading water while the trauma froths away in the background.
Or maybe even both! Just depends on the person I think
So many operators have had to close down because of incredibly stupid people and it's very sad it affected my family as well. People need to understand that intelligence is still required if you're going to attend
There's no discrimination in safety regulations. Just safety.
idk what it is but I really like this series because it's interesting how the industry has grown after incidents like this happen.
The Velocicoaster at Universal Orlando has a system that lights up when secure. Universal provides a sample car infront of the ride so you can check that you will be able to secure a green light before riding because the train will not dispatch without solid lights on all seats.
So insane how the intamin guy like blamed the ADA wtf
Anti-ADA drek is an incel libertarians battle cy.
I think this is just a complete accident with little blame to the ride operators because they aren’t trained as well as other operators. The operators did everything that they were told too.
If you blame training, then the park is at fault for not providing sufficient training.
yeah i blame the park not the ride operators for this, cos clearly they didnt give them enough training @@MotJ949
I never knew about this! I only know about the one with the soldier who was stubborn. This was a new one for me
Ride ops still aren't consistently checking to see that the restraints make contact with riders upper thighs/hip area on this specific ride. I go to this park about twice a month and every once in a while i get on this coaster and the attendants check my seatbelt and lower the U bar until it makes contact with my stomach but not my legs. It can make contact with my legs, I definitely fit. Wicked Cyclone has very visible signs instructing people who carry weight in their stomach on how to properly lower their restraints, but Superman doesn't. I'm not sure if thats an RMC thing that Intamin doesn't do, or the park just hasn't bothered to put an obvious sign like that in the Superman station.
What no one talks about with this accident is how did he slip the seatbelt (the secondary restraint)? Everyone talks about how seatbelts would've saved that kid on the orlando freefall droptower but somehow a seatbelt didn't hold this guy in on superman? I get that the T bar wasn't down enough to properly secure him (like how the harness on the orlando droptower wasn't down enough on that kid) but did this guy not have his seatbelt buckled or did he unbuckle it on the ride? Even if the seatbelt was 12 inches longer in the front row, if it was tightened it should have saved him from falling out even if the T bar wasn't fully down. Seatbelts save peoples' lifes in car accidents with much higher G forces than rollercoasters.
Its because many times these people are overweight
Mkay so like if i had to guess it was likely specifically bc this particular turn was a sideways flip instead of a vertical hump. Same reason why a seatbelt wouldnt work upside down.
And for car accidents there's a reason we added that diagonal strap, cuz the lap ones didnt fully cut it
On the other ride people were saying their should have been a belt between the guys legs so he couldn't just slip out.
Totally different rides and types of seat belts.
Due to the rider's size, the belt could have been placed lower on the thighs instead of his lap. The belt probably wouldn't have fit over his gut.
My condolences go out to the family of this man...
I'm glad you posted this comment. Before today, I had no idea some random stranger was empathetic towards the family of someone who was the victim of a horrible, freak accident. But now, I do know that some random stranger feels empathetic towards the family of someone who was the victim of a horrible, freak accident.
@@realwiggles Thank you, I hope he's in a better place now...
NoLimits2! I haven't seen this software in so long! Massive respect for the visuals, great quality video as always
My mom and I are opposites. She gets claustrophobic and wants the restraints loose. I want to feel squished in and safe so I'll jam lap bars and stuff in as far as possible on myself 😅
i would really appreciate some clarification here because it's not how things work where i live: when you say it was/is the law there to disclose ANY pre-existing conditions before riding, does that genuinely mean absolutely anything? there's a hell of a lot of long-term medical conditions that wouldn't be relevant to riding a rollercoaster and i'm kinda fascinated by the idea of having to disclose absolutely everything (though i'm well aware that wouldn't actually be what people do anyway)
What's more embarrassing disclosing medical conditions or having your family attend a funeral because you fell out of a carnival ride
This has to be a good day, my favorite channel just posted!
Yep, glad it’s the off season for more coaster college.
Scary story: I was on The Giant Dipper roller coaster in San Diego. When they put the lap bar down, it was too far off my lap. I felt if I didn't hold on, I would have flown out. Needless to say, I held on for dear life. I was a kid back then.
You experienced airtime.
Great video! I enjoyed watching!
God the lack of empathy from that intaman president is just mind boggling.
Yes well as an ex carnival operator we are sick to death of people that don't understand that they are not appropriate to be attending such places like this . At some point these people have to look in the mirror and go I am not normal therefore I can't do normal activities
@@James-kv6kb This person possibly had cognitive deficiencies. It's ultimately the carnival's responsibility to ensure the safety of all visitors. If you don't want to put in the extra effort to ensure that safety then you shouldn't be operating dangerous rides. Your amount of defensiveness in this comment section makes me wonder if there were preventable accidents at your own carnival because this attitude is appalling.
@@hollisticc listen pretty boy now of course safety is our prime concern obviously people are not going to ride the rides if they're getting injured, but we can't accommodate for fat pigs that don't understand if they are going to eat excessively they're not going to fit into certain rides. Why should a carnival company pay extra because people can't control themselves ? And surely that would be a good incentive for fat people if they lose weight they can have more fun .Now again what is your experience in the carnival industry or is this all just hate filled stereotypes
I remember when this happened. Well done on your presentation.
yoooo happy to see another one of these!
So superman-ride of steel new england AND superman darien lake BOTH had a rider get ejected?! Damn
The park did not violate any ADA civil rights to disabled people. If that were true they wouldn’t be allowed in the parks at all. They offer wheel chair and scooter rentals so they do offer reasonable accommodations. However, people do need to be aware of their physical limitations. Realistically they cannot ride every roller coaster they want due to safety issues.
Great video
Am I missing something, or does half of this video repeat itself twice?
It starts with an introduction, explaining what happened, and in the end there's a conclusion that once again explains what happened, while including a summary of how it happened.
Like our English teachers always said regarding essays: tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em, tell 'em, and finally, tell 'em what you told 'em
@@nonamelegend_vapor Just remember, that only applies to an audience that doesn't want to hear what you have to say. If you do it for enthusiasts you are insulting their ability to pay attention.
Would the people who jumped the fence (even though they were trying to help) be in danger of other trains already dispatched from the station? I'm not sure how many trains can run at the same time on this ride or how the block zones work, so what would the procedure be for the other train(s) cruising along the track toward this accident scene?
They wouldn‘t be. This attraction has two trains, with one on the course/the final brakes and one in the station. The second train 100% wasn‘t being dispatched when everyone in the train that just came back screamed about an ejected rider. If this ride had more then two trains in operation this could‘ve gotten messy though.
I am an AK amputee, the riders with disabilities policy is rock solid, at Great Adventure, they have an area manager administer an additional mountain climbing style harness to physicallly keep me attached to rides. The only ride that did not require a harness is Medusa. Six Flags has taken significant measures and was one of the first theme park entities to enforce measures to get IBCCES compliance which applies to guests with physical as well as mental disabilities to ride safely. They also strictly prohibit wearing prosthetics on rides. I applaus Six Flag's efforts to accomodate guests with disabilities to ride safely. I still think the accident(s?) on Superman really spearheaded this initiative that aplies to all their parks. I think it caused them to reassess ride safety and make positive policy changes.
I first went on this coaster in 2000 during our 8th grade class trip to Six Flags New England (formerly known as Riverside Park).
YES ANOTHER VIDEO
the dude (that ceo) really tried to say 'it's not our fault for not changing how we build rides to make things safer, it's the fault of ADA bc we can't discriminate against disabled people'. Yikes.
Well, that’s a bit of a stretch. It wouldn’t be discrimination to turn large riders away from a ride if they’re not within the operating limits of it. He basically said that the ADA adds unnecessary stress to the ride operators when it comes to judging whether a rider can or cannot ride, by essentially forcing them to make that judgement on a moment’s notice.
Why the hell would you write the dude and then put in brackets the CEO you're not very smart are you ? We can't keep spending millions of dollars so grossly fat people can come to the park that is simply ridiculous
Dear ride operators: as a bigger person whose weight is determined by disability flares and time of year; if we don’t fit, we don’t fit. If it wasn’t made by the manufacturer to be a more accommodating seat, that should be end of it. As a rider whose fine on 99% of rides but occasionally not, I won’t know if I’m too big. I count on you to tell me. I’m sure you don’t want to deal with Karens, but you REALLY don’t want to deal with their families after their dead either
Did record the voice over twice?
I went to Orlando and visited one of the parks there and went to ride a ride (I believe it was seaworld). I am a bit on the bigger side so I do have a worry that restraints will not fit me or will be put on incorrectly. I went into the frount with my family and when they check my seat they did not push it down as far as it would go. My mom ended up adjusting it (uncomfortably, but i am pretty sure something could have went really wrong if she hadn't).She slammed it down as hard as she could lmaoo
Well time and age has made me more cautious to enjoy these rides because i know the operators are detached a lot of the time. It makes me worry about going on any ride.
My God. what a horrible accident
Ugh… still breaks my heart to this day 💔💔💔
11:15 "But thats a story for another day" Are you going to do a remake of your 1st What Really Happened at my hometown park?
I feel really bad for the victim. I don't understand why he didn't have someone with him to tell him not to go on the ride he was already denied on multiple times. He clearly needed assistance from a family member or caretaker.
Been waiting for this!
If you are told you can't ride for safety reasons as you dont meet the regs, and you keep trying to ride anyway, and one day you manage to get on and fly out you seat like superman then its your own damn fault, extremely thoughtless on their part, its sad for the people working that day who had to witness it, even if a mistake was made by staff that rider put those people In that position /situation due to sheer ignorance as they knew they where not supposed to ride. Now everyone else has to live with what happened that day.
This guy who tried to keep him in must be scarred for life... and the people who tried to help too
(His conditions don't matter the condition didn't kill him, being thrown out of the ride did)
is it just me or does the second half of the video say everything from the first just differently
Nah, you got it right. It's been a long time since he regularly made videos, maybe he just got a bit rusty in his presentation.
There was a similar case where someone got on the ride (they were disabled and had no legs) and was ejected. SO sad
Funny how he uploads this on thank a ride op day
I thought it was celebrate shoelace aglet day. There's just too many important holidays now.
What happened? A guy that didn’t meet the rider requirements was allowed on, resulting in his death. The operators knew better & didn’t do their "due diligence" and recognize the signs of a potential accident due to the rider not meeting the rider requirements, and the rider should’ve read the rider requirements.
So the operator can't win if they don't let them on they get sued if they kill somebody they get sued maybe it's time for personal responsibility instead of blaming the company
@@James-kv6kb If you're making money off of letting people ride dangerous attractions, you should have to do your due diligence to keep them safe. Maybe it's time for companies to be held responsible for once.
@@hollisticc my family have been operating carnival equipment for 150 years and we haven't had an accident yet so take your bulshit responses and stick them up your skinny little backside
I’m only 8:11 and even if the T-bar failed why was he ejected if he had a fastened seat belt too?
That makes no sense!
I’ve rewound a couple times and you say, “longer seat belt fastened and t-bar”
I didn’t really see any seat belts or does this mean the seat belt is the tbar?
Just a thought
Momentum.
So this is why this ride now has awful restraints
So apparently there was a possibility of a rider that was ejected from the polor express ride at the CNE the board is launching an investigation. May be something in the future to cover 😊
Never heard of this accident!
yesterday the chain snapped and they closed it yesterday to hopefully fix it
Just why didn’t get rid of the bigger seatbelts. My god
Your last line defense is the operators. A poorly designed restraining system can’t depend on the variable nature of operators to detect people who should and should not ride. That’s almost gambling with people’s lives. One poorly trained or negligent operator and something bad will go down. Design the restraining system to be accommodating or have systems to screen that are less subject to human error. The ride designers failed. The park’s screening method failed, the operators failed to screen, the rider was foolish for not disclosing their situation, but ultimately the ride manufacturer should’ve found better engineering solutions.
Accidents often result from not one but a series of mistakes. If one link in this chain worked, there would be no accident. In this case they all failed. Machines, systems, and people.
The first line of defense, don't be 5 foot 2 inches and weigh 230 pounds, or anywhere near that. Problem solved along with countless others.
@@TheRadioAteMyTVah yes, because having cerebral palsy makes it *super* easy to exercise and eat a balanced diet
@@isthatrubble That is the wildest correlation I have ever heard and probably one of the most impossible to defend excuses for obesity ever. EVER!
@@TheRadioAteMyTV why? cerebral palsy makes exercising very difficult, it limits mobility and causes chonic pain and fatigue. it can also make swallowing difficult, or leave people relying on others to help them eat, so they don't always have full control over what they eat or have the ability to eat a balanced healthy diet. my understanding is that adults with cerebral palsy are often overweight or underweight, and even those who can eat in a relatively "normal" manner often don't absorb enough important nutrients from their food like other people would. since weight loss and prevention of weight gain is made a lot easier if you move more and don't have dietary restrictions I don't see why you think this is an outrageous concept. I might not be right about this particular guy's situation, I don't know enough about him, but it's not like I said he had brown hair so he can't exercise.
maybe you know of older adults with cerebral palsy who have a good hold on their weight and health. but that doesn't seem to be common or easy for most.
@@isthatrubble Your logic, if you can call throwing spaghetti at a wall logic, is virtually applicable to anyone overweight. The CDC just released the obesity charts for the US in the end of September and America has gotten far huger, and far faster in the past 10 years, and the US wasn't skinny then either. You have to go back before the 90s to find the average American being not a tubbo. For the entire country's history until the end of the 90s Americans were a lean mean fighting machine. Now they are pretty much the exact opposite.
People don't take on too much weight from eating air. That's never happened. There is only one way to become over weight and it has nothing at all to do with cerebral palsy.
If the person is so far gone they can't feed themselves, then by definition they aren't responsible, but they still ain't going to get fat without doing the magic thing to get fat.
WTH does this have to with the video anyway?
The real problem is that the operator should've known better than to let a person that size and shape ride the coaster. I NEVER would've let him on!😡
No the big problem is America thinking that obesity is normal and that they can go about their everyday lives and enjoy things like everyone else . If they want to eat the equivalent of 5 people's food per day they need to understand there's going to have to be consequences to the way they live
This was at my nearest six flags and I went there yesterday 💀
I just realized you should do a video about how the security systems in seats have changed over the years.
And another about how the industry has changed to accommodate people with disabilities.
So when you go to a theme park and you get charged ridiculous amounts of money for everything you can understand that is because they have to keep accommodating for people that shouldn't be there
@@James-kv6kb Nah, people get charged ridiculous amounts of money because that's how capitalism works. The amount of bigotry you're showing in this comment section is absolutely bananas.
@@hollisticc so you're telling a professional carnival operator how it works and how capitalism works how many businesses have you ran ?
Everyone working on these rides should have to watch a video during training about all the terrible accidents that have happened on that type of ride. They might take safety more seriously.
Information.
Anyone else have deja vu during this video?
Let’s be honest. They reject them and many people would make a scene and try to sue the park.
I’m sure that went through the staffs’ minds.
I’m sorry that person passed away. That’s sad.
Fat people need to understand that they can't just be accommodated by things designed for thinner people I'm a fat person myself
Coaster college my beloved
Now im scared asf, ive been on the superman before but im going again tmrw… although im like 110 at 5’6
The size of the average theme park guest is inherently limited by accessibility, and parks ignoring that is more attributable to institutionalized discrimination than any financial decisions, because they'd see a significant boost in attendance if larger and/or disabled people could access their attractions. Parks in the US would make so much more money if they didn't exclude around 50% of the population. I know so many people who stopped going to parks because of a disability acquired in adolescence or adulthood, or natural weight gain over a lifetime. They'd all choose to spend money visiting parks aside from Disney and Universal if ride restraints weren't so exclusive.
Lmao, no way. I saw your other comment where you said the bars on some roller coaster hit your stomach before your thighs because you self-described yourself as someone who "carries weight in their stomach". There's another word gnerally used to describe people who carry weight in their stomach, and that word is obese. It's not right to call people who carry so much weight in their stomach that roller coaster restraints don't work for them though, because the correct term would actually be morbidly obese.
I don't know which Republican state you live in but idk where you're getting the idea that 50% of the US population is so fat they can't fit on rides. That's just objectively false. Someone needs to be pretty deep into the morbidly obese category for that to be the case. Which, by the way, is not something that just occurs naturally over the course of one's life. Again, I have no clue where you're getting the idea that it's completely normal and natural for someone to eventually end up being so fat they can't ride the rides at an amusement park.
Lastly, idk why you mentioned people with legitimate physical disablities in your comment either. For one, I don't think it's appropriate for you to lump someone who was born with a physical disability in with someone who is physically limited as a result of their own actions. The former didn't get to choose to be born with their disability, while the other allowed themselves to end up in their situation despite possessing the opportunity to prevent it if they did what needed to be done to do so. And yes, I'm fully aware overeating is often caused by various mental illnesses or can even be a mental illness itself. But someone born without one of their legs can't see a therapist, a dietician, or a personal trainer and eventually grow one after years of hard work and dedication.
Which isn't even the point lol. This video you're commenting on literally mentioned how ride-manufacturers developed restraint systems specifically for individuals with physical disabilities. But only the type that have nothing to do with ranch dressing.
@hoppingrabbit9849 the scientific community studying wight does not agree with you on that. Like we're talking about 60 years of evidence to the contrary, but that info doesn't help sell diet pills and programs (which have a much higher correlation to negative health outcomes than weight regardless of how much people weighed when they started)
@hoppingrabbit9849 you have an nft profile pic though, so I'm guessing you're not very smart
The rides cost enough money as is without having to pay for extra costs so that people that can't control their eating can have a ride . The extra costs involved would be inhibitive and the park would probably end up closing down which means that normal people miss out
Accidents like these prove why we have safety regulations, and why they should always be enforced.
I think he's right. There's a reason this happened in the us and why rides Like Expedition GeForce which have much stronger airtime then Superman have never ejected a rider. Americans will try to get themselves on rides they shouldn't be riding to begin with.
You hit the nail on the head .if you're going to eat the equivalent of five persons food per day you can't expect to fit into Airlines seats or roller coasters
Coasters should not be able to be operated if all of the safety precautions aren't in place.
just when I thought I couldn't hate Intamin anymore I saw this lol and I feel so bad for those ride ops. I say it's not their fault and I hope they feel the same.
I honestly don’t see how it’s intamins fault, restraints don’t work if you don’t put them on right (not a big surprise). And no I dont blame the operators I blame the Park for not training them well, even on manufacturers like b&m if you don’t put the restraint on, you leave the seat mid ride
@@terg8472 the ride isn't supposed to start if restraints aren't locked properly. needs to be sensors that show that. also restraints should be engineered to work at every closed position including the biggest one. Lastly what the intamin guy in the video said is outrageous. safety culture needs to dictate 0 fatalities is acceptable and 0 injuries is acceptable. he seems fine to ice a few unlucky guests in the name of probability. terrible.
@@fo-ef8qo not really, cause his weight straight up broke the rules. but i do agree about the sensor thing, but its a bit extra and isnt necessary as long as you dont put 300 pound giants in the ride. most deaths on coasters that ive seen is that obese people cant handle the small restraints. sensors wouldnt be a problem as long as you enforce the rules properly which is why i blame the park
@@terg8472 it's up to the manufacturer to make the ride safe for guests up to a certain size and obviously unrideable for anyone too large for the restraints in some way shape or form, this mostly comes from sensors which detect when the ride is sufficiently closed, which you yourself said you agree with, but it also comes from seats engineered for a safe ride from a minimum given tightness of seats (tracked by sensors)
A death. The end
All they gotta do is just say no. The ride was life threatning to the guest. If he were to throw a fit, then throw him out of the line and out of the park. Better that than thrown against a fence with mutilated bodyparts.
"Accidents are inevitable. It's about figuring out how many are acceptable."
Jesus fucking Christ. A person died and he was just like 'Shit happens.' Dude, you are being asked for comment because you are partially responsible for manslaughter.
Saying "Eh, it was going to happen at some point," is like saying "Eh, I drink drive a lot. Just be glad I don't hit _every_ pedestrian I see."
What planet is this guy from? You can tell he has been living in a bubble of wealth so far from reality... irl Rollercoaster Tycoon.
This sad shit makes my head spin
How do I get a stable income that can be done anywhere with a laptop so that I can travel around the world and ride these things meanwhile? plz
Even if a rider with a disability can be safely secured on a ride, I don't think they should be allowed to ride if their disability might lead to problems if the ride has an e-stop and needs to be evacuted. An obese person that can only walk a few steps is a big problem for an ecacuation from the lifthill. An amputee might be, as well.
So eating one's self up to 230 pounds when standing 5'2'' is now a disability? Well it's one of the easiest in the world to cure, and doesn't cost a freaking dime to do it either. Everyone knows how to "cure" that problem. Any deserted area will do. NOT desserted, deserted. Big difference.
it's always the superman rides seriously
This six flags in Agawam is a complete dump and in disrepair. Along with employees in parking area smoking and reeking of Marijuana.
vortex ride is comming back
5’2 230 holy crap
What a beast
The healthiest part of a doughnut is the whole in the middle. The only way to get to the healthy part is to eat all the sugared up deep fried bread. Clearly this person was working hard to get to that healthy part with a vengeance.
He should have known better
I guess you can't have your cake and stay seated too.
I wasn't planning on hearing a story. I was planning on watching an amusement park ride death.
There's a story behind everything
Blaming intamin for the ride operators failing to realize the bar wasnt properly securing the guy is like blaming the gun store owner for a mass shooting
Not saying it was entirely the victim’s fault but you should probably know if your disability or weight could be a safety concern for you if you board the ride
If you are over 300lbs and go on a ride like this, you know you are rolling the dice lets be honest.
Rolling the dice, eating a case of cinnamon roles, really are they so different?
@@TheRadioAteMyTVcalm down lol
Stop using girth and just say fat.
Whats the point
@@CoasterCollege Because girth sounds like a positive, like how people describe their genitals
Fat is not positive.
@@Blundabus1337 The person died I don't think disrespecting them with the term "fat" is appropriate here. You can disagree with their lifestyle that led them to this point and perhaps when discussing that the term "fat" is more appropriate. But in this video we are strictly talking about the direct cause of the accident itself.
I'll be honest all these accidents have made my wife and I just straight up avoid Intamin rides.
I am like number 752