Jeep Wrangler JK Aluminum Oil Cooler Review !
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Hello, subscribers and Jeepers!
Today we review and install a Doorman Aluminum Oil Cooler in a Jeep Wrangler JKU.
As many of you are aware the 3.6 Pentastar liter oil coolers have been an issue since they were manufactured.
Hopefully, this aluminum aftermarket Doorman oil cooler solves the problem!
If you have any questions leave them bellow!
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The most amazing thing is that Chrysler doesn’t recall all and come up with a new fix . Why hasn’t a class action lawsuit been filed against Chrysler
@Joe Bidden I like the end code AF 😂
Overtightening the oil filter housing is what causes these to fail. I change my own oil and I'm careful not to overtighten it. Never had a single issue in the 7 years I've had my Jeep.
Actually there is a class action on this.
@@chintachobe that’s awesome
@@Japplesnap wrong. The shitty gaskets can go bad too
Good Sir!
Guess I'm driving to Tampa to get this job done on my '13 JK. Since I'm want to keep my Jeep forever, the attention to detail that you pay will afford peace of mind for years to come. Thanks and subscribed!
Respect that you love this and you can see it. A dealer would not clean or remove any parts that wasn't malfunctioning or not under warranty. I would have remove half of those parts. Been done in an hour ... Lol
Great video thanks for sharing. I’m currently doing the exact same work on my 2015 grand Cherokee. I didn’t know you needed a deep socket 19 & 27 to take off those sensors. Really appreciate this whole video!
Just did a new oem oil cooler and now it seems they aren’t coming with new sensors 🤔
Great Video!
Always replace the oil pressure sensor if it's not the "AB" suffix, I replace them anyway with OE since I'm in there
Second time doing this on my 15 only 68k miles on it but this time installing this new aluminum piece and hope for the best, last time I installed the same OEM piece and that was only a year ago 🤦🏻♂️. Great video man keep them coming new sub! 👊🏻
where did you buy the aluminum oil cooler
@@domingodomingo2606 I found it on ebay
I have a 2016 75th Anniversary, do all my own oil changes and never over tighten the cap, so far, so good, no leaks, hopefully stays that way. My mechanic told me over tighten is 85-90% the reason for failure, the rest faulty gaskets and warping. He has the same Jeep as me, and also never a leak.
i have a needle torque goes up to 90 will that be good ??
Bought my 2012 new. I change my own oil and that's probably why I've never had an oil cooler failure until recently. A few months ago, was when I started noticing a faint smell of burnt oil. did a little investigating and found it's around the cooler. Just received the dorman cooler to fix the problem.
I just replaced one on a 2016 Jeep with a 3.2 liter. The old one was gushing oil out of the two plugs screwed into the end of the housing. A design flaw to the max! I replaced it with an aluminum one from amazon for $95. It also included the oil cooler and both sensors! One more thing, it doesn't leak!!
if you have done it twice than it takes about 30 to 40 minutes the third time to get to the housing lol. I havent had any problems in a long time now tho. I clicked on this cuz it came up. guess I'm going to do it a fourth time now cuz I want that housing. thanks for the vid bro.
Just had to do it on 2015 ram truck!! They definitely should have been a recall or class action suit for this situation!!!!! Dealership mechanic told me that they get swamped with replacing the plastic ones…..
I know of many Jeeps that had this problem. Mine has it now! Keep up with your install bills for this fix in case a lawsuit happens. Oh and replace the oil sensor. These fail often. The other sensor tends to not have problems. 84,000 miles now and problem started at 3800 miles. Dies more often each year. Coil packs and plugs while you are there bc almost time to change at 80,000 miles.
Replaced one once with a factory plastic one. ( buddy at the stealership did it ) its kinda on the way out. Going to replace this once I need an oil change again
Amazon now has cheaper brands that make an aluminum housing that comes complete with cooler and oil filter. They appear to be made by the same company with different names on them. I have no idea who makes the filter so I ran mine after it was done for about 10 minutes and then changed my oil with a good oil filter. I did this in my garage at home but I used to be a Saturn tech. This oil cooler is ten times easier than the GM 3.0L motor used in the Saturn L series and the Cadilac. I do not have that cool creeper so I took the wheels off of my Jeep and sat it down on low jack stands. The main issue I had was my stinger bumper. Being short I just stood on the bumper and leaned all in. Get all the tools you need before you start!
Agree the topside creeper is a gamechanger for this !
Many say buy the OE gasket kit for the Dorman unit.
I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler with 89,000. Mine just failed. The dealership just changed the “o” rings and the gasket. All good!
It’s much easier in a jeep latitude thank God doing the job today and no fuel rail needed to be removed just set aside wooo cause I would mess with the fuel stuff like ya said not a dyi if you are out familiar with the system
Sold out on Amazon
good video, we have a 2017 JK, wrangler. Replaced the oil cooler with dorman, but immediately after install, tripped a P0330 Knock Sensor code. Is this common? maybe code will resolve after some miles? Just hate to have to take everything apart again to replace those knock sensors. thanks
Sir you never mentioned what was the torque spec on that top part that attaches to the oil filter housing?
do you have the torque sequence and lbs for the oilcooler housing and other parts ??
If your doing this around 100k miles plan on doing plugs and coil packs at the same time cause you have to pull upper intake to do the drivers side anyways
Agree
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Do yo think these will fit the 2012 Jeep Wrangler I’ve got 2 I’ve changed Che k bottom you can tell that the plastic coolers warp from heat
Where can I get aluminum oil cooler for a 2017? Because apparently right now they are backordered.
February 17th 2023
I just replaced this part (for the second time) the last one only lasted a year and a half. The typical failure point on the 2012-2013 version is the plactic part that ducts coolant into the cooler from the top of the engine. its such a small part that just clips on to the bottom of the oil cooler but you have to replace the entire unit. It's made of such cheap plastic it can't handle the heat and pressure of the cooling system. The 3.6L runs hotter that a typical engine. I wish I could attatch pictures of the two that failed on me. I did use this upgrade this time around. I will let you know how it does.
How is it going?
@@sabrinareece2601 So far it's going well. no complaints.
Just to add to my original comment. I replaced the oil cooler in my 2012 with one that fits a 2014 and newer. They are compatible but the oil filter is different. You will need to find a filter to fit the newer model year since there was a design change.
@@bradsimpson816 I just had my 2015 ram replacement and I bought a solid aluminum one off of eBay and the dealership really like the aluminum one I supplied…….!!
Haw is it going till now?
So, I just got the code for multiple cylinder misfires and decided to start with changing my spark plugs, starting with 1,3 and 5 when I noticed the leak . dont know if its new or not. Wondering if its bad to drive or how bad it is to drive with it, dont know how quick I can get it fixed
I've switched to this Dorman unit and had it also leak...within 3000 miles of replacement🤬 I found that the oil cooler itself was slightly warped...not the housing. I took a straight edge metal ruler and laid it across the bottom and found a 0.12" feeler guage fit between the rule and the cooler mating surface. Dunno if that is enough clearance to cause a leak but thats where it looked like it was leaking this last time. Out of 3 factory coolers, only 1 had a flat mating surface. I would also note....give that metal housing a good once over. I found lots of metal shavings from the machining process. Some was loose, some needed knocked off. Blow it out with compressed air. Don't let that stuff go into the engine!!
same problem
@@Jasshands1 thats unfortunate...
@@h8tnlife yea it sucks man, my oil was so so low. I took it in and they are taking it all apart. i'm hoping to get a refund. I thought i saved a thousand but im just so tired of it
Right now in Portland Oregon it's going for $217.99 at O'Reillys.
That's crazy I'm in Ohio and I ordered the metal body and it had the cooler with it and all the intake manifold gaskets for $107 and it came with new sensors
Sounds like the deal of the century!
Was it the luft meister brand ?
Just curious Where is your shop located? This video is awesome to see and learn more about these coolers going bad. I just bought my 2015 Sahara a few years ago not knowing of these cooler issues. I’ve had a ‘95 YJ for over 20yrs with minimal repairs so this oil cooler prob is new to me. Mine only has 57k so far so def gonna have to do this service soon! Thanks!
Tampa,Fl
Hey great video my question is what were the torque specs for the swapped cooler screws and the E8 screws to reinstall the whole unit and prior to taking out the old adapter housing did you have to drain the coolant and oil first? I've just ordered this part for my 2014 dodge grand Caravan
Did that info come with the part?
I see this was a year ago, do you know if it was faulty or if it resolved the issue??
What are the torque specs for putting the Aluminum Housing together?
Motor city mechanic shows how to change style from 2014 oil cooler and put it in a 2012 jeep but I’d love to know if this new aluminum cooler will line up in may 2012 cause Dorman says it doesn’t fit my model but I know there tricks of the trade and for warranty purposes they can’t official say it will lol
Its because it doesnt come with the cooler itself and the '13 cooler cant be swapped over. If you have swapped to the '14+ assembly then yes it will fit because the top cooler can be swapped over
I’m in NWFL do you know anyone who can work replace the oil cooler and radiator
Thread sealant or PTFE tape on the sensors?
Here in Quebec, Canada, I could get it through NAPA but it was 475$ !!! I ended up ordering OEM from moparparts for 300$ 🤷🏻♂️ I do have to get the seals separately though.
They sell seals separately here too
You could open a account at Feeport fowarding (Champlain NY), buy it from any US supplyer, get it ship there (many offer free shipping) , Then you pickup your part (fee are just $5us per box) and pay Mr Trudeau/Legault taxes crossing back to Crapnada frontier! Simple, smart and you save a ton's of Looney's! 😁
where did you buy the aluminum oil cooler
Hey Sr, I just seen this video I have this problem now, so what you think about Dorman part? 9 months after your video?
I am in the same boat!! I am doing mine tommorrow
theres like a freeze plug in the front that just degrades and comes apart
Crazy that there wasn't a class action lawsuit or a recall on these.
Where does it leak from? A crack? A seal?
Changes mine and it had a noticeable warp
so is that bettet than original cooler Oil
Did you replace spark plugs?
Guys just my 2 cents I have 2 2015 Chrysler 200C AWD with the 3.6 I ran a test and it seems that its working, believe it or not, I remove the huge beauty = noise cover on top of the engine on one and left it one the other one since I purchased both cars in 2017 as lease returns, the day I purchased both at the same dealer, they had to replace the both coolers because obviously both were leaking already with 20K Original miles both were purchased middle 2014 as 2015 models, ANYWAY to make the long story short, both cars are driven more than les the same around 10K miles a year my daughters are using them, the car WITHOUT the beauty cover had it replaced only ONCE when I purchased the cars, the other one with the cover 3 times in TOTAL so, I have a theory that that FRICKING huge beauty cover with all the noise reduction foam is not letting the heat dissipate, it just cooks everything there under it... I just decided to remove the second one since last time the cooler was removed and no issue so far...Thank GOD! I purchased the lifetime warranty on both... spread the word REMOVE THE BEAUTY COVERS ON ALL 3.6 PENTSTAR ENGINES! bunch of dumb FCA engineers
Thanks for the feedback!!
I removed mine from the start of new…. And my oil assembly is leaking…. But you’re right about the heat these create and contribute I’m sure to failure of oil cooler filter assembly!!
this should of been a recall. happened to mine. engine oil right by exhaust what could go wrong...
Do you know if a bad oil cooler can cause your car to overheat or be mistaken as head gasket failure ? Appreciate it…
I've seen that the actual cooler can fail and so oil will end up in your coolant bottle and can be misdiagnosed as a failed head gasket.
Have you seen any of the Dorman aluminum versions fail?
Not yet, but I haven’t seen any of the ones I did with the oem or just seals fail either
I’m in the middle of doing the job now! Did you reuse your injector o rings?
Yes but cleaned them all up
For the sensor and oil cap what the torque specs. I believe I over tighten the oil cap which cause mine to fail!
18ft lbs is factory spec
The torque for the filter cap is molded into the cap.
Ive always gone snug plus 1/8 turn and never had a cap issue
I just did one of these because my oil pressure sensor was throwing code P06de. Code went away and not even a week
Later came back. Brand new sensor 🤦🏻♂️ smdh
I am in the same sea 🌊 of aggravation….i wish I had never bought….. first new vehicle ever to own!!!
Mine took a dump on me today and through research I found out this is issue #2 on my 16 JKU . I see this video is 11 months old and was curious how well this is holding up. The aggravating part is I only have only 49k on mine and have had left head replaced and now this…. Just empty every pocket is holding true.
So far so good, I’ve done a handful of these and non have come back
Same here, 6 months on mine, no leaks
How has that doorman piece held up since it was installed? You know it’s crap it’s not covered under warranty or they haven’t done a recall to get rid of the plastic and give you the aluminum.
I replace mine with the same part from dorman and every 4 to 6 months is leaking badly, the O rings keep getting melt on the bottom part of the oil housing. first time i used the ones that came with the oil housing, 2nd time i used felt pro, 3rd time i used oem o rings and still having the same issue. i'm just going back to oem oil housing and hopefully will be fine.
Don't forget that is not at all applicable to 2011-2013.
[EDIT: this job is easy but tedious. I am a DIYer, and would do this for 550 plus customer-supplied parts. New OEM pressure and temperature sensors must be proved. New PCV valve is a necessity and sparkplugs should be changed if this is performed anywhere near 100,000 miles. Yeah, I DIY but do it thoroughly and use factory service data.]
Motorcity Mechanic here on y.t. has a great channel for us diy'rs!
@@DanMcD80 yes he does!
So new sensors and pcv valve for ‘13 compatibility?
I do 3 to 4 a month
Please you forget to tell us wat is the torque spec at the cooler itself not the torque spec for the housing but the cooler when you use that torque tools T30 so you did not say wat is the torque spec on your video
I want a jeep jk butt after seeing this maybe the 3.8 might be better than 3.6 between rockers arms and cooler I’m not sure about 3.6 now
Do you replace the oil and antifreeze at this time too?
You should honestly
Why go thur all that and reuse the cooler and the sensors ?
Dorman makes the cooler and you can buy it together with the body
Correct they do, but people we blaming the plastic for failing. You could do the aluminum and buy new sensors. The aluminum does run less expensive.
Does it come with a oil check valve
No
i replaced mine with a aluminum one and its also leaked within a couple weeks. Now the factory part is going in (sadly) and im fighting for a refund.
That happened to me too, it was the thread lock they used in the oil pressure sensor. Some teflon thread tape and no more leaks.
@@miopera40 i have the same issue with dorman but was the o rings keep getting melt. i try the o rings that came from dorman, felt pro, oem and still leaking after 4 to 6 months. I'm going back to oem oil housing and hopefully be fine.
I'm having the same problem, so where are you located.
Rich.
Tampa
What years will this work on and how much is it
Jeep jk 3.6 motor , price vary
HI! Are you interested in testing new LED tail lights for JK/JKU?
Sure!
@@TheJeepLab Please give me your email , I will sent you details
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@@TheJeepLab OK
Where did you get the seals for the cooler only? Or do you have a part #?
Came with kit
Dealer sells them too
@@TheJeepLab I ask for them last week. They only sell the orings for the oil housing only. Not the cooler.
I just bought one off Amazon for $195.
$138 now as of 05/10/2022
Smart
Hi man , can u update us now after 7 months , I have this issue now and I need to now your feed back ❤️👍
No issues since install…
@@TheJeepLab thanks man
Howdy partner. How’s the cooler been holding up for you
This job took me 36 hours to complete. This was with no mechanical experience.
RTV on those seals is not a good idea. They should hold themselves in just fine. There are little pinch spots in the channels for that.
Well, I see that one doesn't have them. Still not a good idea because it can cause it to leak later. Only "failure" I've seen from these was caused by RTV on the seals.
I would love to see a long term review as usually the rubber seals fail not the housing so can’t see the point to switch it to aluminium.
I replace mine with the same part from dorman and every 4 to 6 months is leaking badly, the O rings keep getting melt on the bottom part of the oil housing. first time i used the ones that came with the oil housing, 2nd time i used felt pro, 3rd time i used oem o rings and still having the same issue. i'm just going back to oem oil housing and hopefully will be fine.
Def have to replace this and I’m seeing driver side upper coolant pooling
use the skp not the dorman.
I am going to change mine on my Journey. I need a clock spring also.Not impressed with this engine and will buy all new gaskets for mine i do not trust theirs.
I replaced the oil cooler housing in my 2014 JK. It crapped out at 5 years and 60k miles. I’m now a 9 years and 108k miles and thinking I’m going to put a new one in again in about 20k just to be precautionary. What a shit design. The prices of new Jeeps are laughable. I’m
Sure they all come with horrible build quality as standard options. As usual. Lol
And your right the same plastic every where just more expensive cars 🚙
Curses on FCA for engineering and supplying a piece of shit part. Just like their rockers !
No recall ? This part has had so many revisions and still a point of failure. Can you say class action lawsuit ! Just quoted $1,600 from my Dealer. I’ll do it myself for under $200 and a days labor and I detail it like it is brand new !
As much of a fan of Chrysler I want to be, it is poor manufacturing and design choices like this plastic oil cooler that causes aggrivation for us Jeep owners.
This could have all been avoided if they would have used a spin on oil filter instead of the European oil filter design BS.
Plate C
EVERY oem has issues with something. If it runs, it WILL break!
@@DanMcD80 True!
Plate C
@@DanMcD80 yeah but is thousands of these it’s a design flaw they know it but it would bankrupt them
They want our engines to brake and buy newer cars it’s call big business I don’t expect them to change the new motors are the same even worst now I think