Hi Derek, thank you for the heads up on that one. There was a broken link. Somehow it got reset. I just sent an email to everyone that filled out the form with the link. Link should work now. I appreciate your comment. Cheers.
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Thank you very much for explaining . Perfect video. I was trying to find this kind of tutorial for abour 2 hrs. This far was the best. Love the chart you made. Very helpful. Cheers
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Great video and explanation. I am filming cars and use a polarizer filter. Would you recommended combining those and the just use a 4 stop ND on top of a pol filter (as your chart mentions treating a pol filter as 2 stops)?
Hi @dkalfaguy, I'm glad it helped. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. Yes, I would. Actually, for ease of use, try the polarizer on top and ND under. That's a normal thing to do when your polarizer isn't dark enough. By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :) Have a great day!
Hi @alissonfreitas4739, I'm glad it helped. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. For snow, not quite. Here's why. I used light from the sun as my base to create the chart. What the chart doesn't account for is light being added to the existing lighting by reflecting or bouncing off of other objects. Snow is very reflective and bounces a lot of light. It's why we all get sunburned so quickly when out in the snow. I would probably start with an added stop and test exposure from there. I hope this helps. Please let me know how it goes. By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :) Have a great day!
Good video. I recently got a Lumix G9. I shoot paintball content and wanted an nd filter partially to help protect the lens and to help light etc. Mostly shoot autofocus etc atm but do manual as well. I live in California and most of the time even during winter it's usually sunny and I wanted to buy a PolarPro but only 1 for now because of the price and was wondering which one is the best if I was going to buy 1 for my main application. I am thinking for now the nd64 is solid which is 6 stops, the nd16 is 4 stops and nd8 is 3 stops. I'll probably get them all one day but seems from your video the nd64 might be a solid overall one for now. Seems like the right verdict?
Hey Goofy, thank you for asking. I appreciate it. There are a couple of things I would consider given your explanation. First, fast action… I assume…I assume you want to capture paintball and be able to freeze the action. That means you’ll want to shoot at 60fps… at 4K, probably. That’s a 120 shutter speed which pulls you down 1 stop. I think if you want to go 1080p you can shoot at 180fps (sorry don’t own a G9), that’s 360 shutter. Almost 3 stops. I believe the G9, even though it’s a four thirds sensor does well with the native ISO range. So… I would reduce light and add back (1-2 stops), good Lord that is so technically wrong to say :) with ISO. I think you may want to test your ISO range in a dark room and see if the G9 can absorb 3 stops. It’s a good thing to know anyway. If it can, I’d go with 6 stop ND just so you can shoot outdoors at 24 fps and still hit good exposure. When you go slower, use ISO to make up the difference. If not, maybe a 5 to help it when you slow down with a higher fps. It seems counter intuitive but I’m sure you got it. Also, last part… I know PolarPro makes some good filters, but if I’m investing (and I did) I would go with Breakthrough Photography filters. IMHO. Last, last part… If any of this is confusing please ask. I answer all my comments and I’m here to help. Cheers!
@358studios makes sense thanks for the explanation. I went with the 6 stop to start and will probably get 3 stop or so in the future. Yes I shoot primarily 4k 60fps. I learned you can adjust iso slightly if needed.
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Great video. I film a lot outdoors with my canon m50 and my lens of choice is the sigma 16mm. Would you recommend getting a fixed nd256 over getting a variable nd? If you were to recommend a variable, which would it be
Hi there, great question. Because you can use your ISO to make up the difference of a cloudy day, if you're filming in direct sunlight I would go with 6 stops. If in shade of direct sunlight 5 stops. Variable filters can only give you a clean frame (no cross polarization) when they aren't pushed to their full capacity. Clean variable filters are also expensive. Check out the filters from Breakthrough Photography. They have the best in my opinion. I hope that helps. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :) Have a great day!
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Hi Quiztasia, I'm glad it helped. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. The Black Magic camera is great. What lenses are you using? As for your ND question. The two that you name are very different and I guess it would depend on how much IR pollution you were worried about in your videos. You will only get IR pollution as you really stop down with the filter (like 6 or more stops). Because of cross-polarization, I only use a VND for outdoor team sports pictures, when I'm blending strobe lighting with wildly varying ambient light. Think clouds on a soccer field. In that situation, with still pictures, the VND is invaluable but with video, it's hard to cut and change exposure for every cloud. I stick to the regular ND filters for video and end up using my 6-stop the most. Breakthough Photography has been my go-to ND for the past several years. Check them out: amzn.to/3K07wIh. Amazing glass! I hope that helps. Please let me know. By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :) Have a great day!
Hi Yasin, great question and the first time someone has asked when using F Log. Minimum sensitivity for F Log (I think) is ISO 800, but let's just work your situation with ISO 640 and a sunny day. At ISO 100, 1/50 shutter, F/4 on a sunny day you need a 5 stop reduction or ND32. BUT, you are shooting in F Log with an ISO 640 which means we need to cut even further. ISO 640 is one of those fun ones because it's figured in 1/3 stops. Here we go. 100 to 200 (1 Stop), 200 - 400 (2 Stops), 400 to 640 (2-2/3 Stops). If you went to ISO 800 it would be a full 3 stops. So, you fall just underneath needing to add an additional 3 stops because your shooting in F Log. Let's assume you bump your ISO 640 to 800. That's 3 stops. Here's the summary. Add 3 stops to 5 (ND32) and you end up with 8 stops (ND256). If you want to stay with ISO 640 and use an ND256, you'd need to open up your aperture 1/3 stop. Something like f/3.5 instead of f/4. Unfortunately, your ISO requirement severely limits your flexibility to add light or increase your aperture. But, any clouds or hazing of the sun, and you can just increase your ISO to continue. Since you won't be reducing your ISO, you can stick with the ND256 and adjust your ISO up for lack of lighting challenges or adding to your depth of field by closing down your aperture. You just won't be able to adjust for an increase in lighting. Lastly, and I think you'll want to test this on your setup, does your camera focus with an ND256 filter attached. Some autofocus systems won't work with this much light reduction. If you're good with manual focus, no worries, but it's something to consider. I appreciate you asking and please feel free to ask more questions if this doesn't fully answer your question. Hey, did you by chance subscribe to my channel? :) Have a great day and please let me know how it goes. Cheers!
@@358studios First of all, thank you for your detailed answer. My lens is XF16-80 F4 (minimum F4 aperture) -One more question: Can I shoot video with the ND1000 (10-stop). I will need to raise the ISO and these will usually be manual video captures. -I want to finish long exposure photo and video work with a single filter :)
Hi Yasin, yeah the 10-stop will work well. You will likely have to manual focus everything, but for the shots you described you would anyway. I would test your camera and see how far you can go before noise starts to show up. There will be a point that you will really notice the difference from one stop to the next. For photography, the 10-stop is the one I use for water or light streaks. Please let me know how it goes. Cheers.
Hi @henricuspriasetiawan290, I'm glad it helped. Sounds like you got the content of the video. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. Yes, 6-stops is the mark for a bright sunny day and if you want to control your shutter speed and shoot at 24fps. The iPhone is a great place to start with video. By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :) Have a great day!
@@358studios Thanks. I've subscribed! I'm just wondering if I want to get 7 or even up to 10 stops since I can only adjust the iso. Planning to experiment with black mist filter as well. Just trying to experiment the hell out of my iPhone lol
Sounds like fun! I'm not sure i totally understand your question but experimenting is the best way to learn how to get results. When I was learning, I would write down all my settings and the results. Have fun!
Thank for ND Chart, specific for VIDEO work, Here's my question, ( i am aware that you suggested 6 stop ND that works in most outdoor scene) (1) 3 Stop is good for cloudy day video in daylight (2) 6 stop is good for full bright sunny day video in day light. If you can share a SHORT on youtube , to answer this things about which would be better. I have to choose one ND filter for my need ( burned my hand by going with variable filter already, yeah, costly affair , hahahaha ) , either 3 stop or 6 stop , specific need to be used in RF 28-70, F2 lense, 95mm. Your response will help me to clear the confusion./ thanks
Hi Hardik. Thank you for asking. I'm working on a video right now with another chart outlining lighting conditions that I think will help. Quick question. Do you like to shoot video wide open at f/2 or do you stop down the lens? If you stop down the lens, what f/stop do you like to use (most of the time)? Video out soon. Thanks, Sean
Hi there, that's a 2 stop difference, which kind of throws your needs one way or the other, especially when shooting on a cloudy day outdoors. What would you say you prefer and what is your outdoor lighting... most of the time?
@@358studios so mostly its either one of these, being 2 stop difference. Not using any video light for outdoor as of now. For outdoor shooting , Priority-wise (1) Cloudy ( i like look of F2, BOOKEH MAGNET) (2) Bright daylight/Sunny Day/Clear Sky ( i use F5 around, sometime less bookeh is ok as long as footage it exposed properly, for me being minimalist - one man team ) I guess these 2 covers majority outdoor shooting scenario on Planet EARTH. If i can get ONLY ONE SOLID ND, 95mm ( in conjuction with CPL ( count there as one more F-Stop reduction, stacking sequence will be like Lense > CPL > ND) . Which Solid ND it should be ? 3 Stop / 4 stop / 6 stop? (+1 stop i am getting from my Cokin 95mm CPL already being permanent on my RF 28-70) If you get chance try to throw some light on ND (Breakthrough Photography) vs IRND ( like Kolari IRND) with some test footage if possible. Both claims to be color neutral, but IRND really helps in getting PURE BLACK for Canon R6?
Hey all, my chart in the video is missing f/11. Sorry, my bad. The downloadable chart has been corrected. Same concept.
I clicked the link, filled in the form and just got a "Thank you" but no chart.
Hi Derek, thank you for the heads up on that one. There was a broken link. Somehow it got reset. I just sent an email to everyone that filled out the form with the link. Link should work now. I appreciate your comment.
Cheers.
Finally, a video that explains using ND filters it in a way I can understand it for video. Thank you!
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Thank you very much for explaining . Perfect video. I was trying to find this kind of tutorial for abour 2 hrs. This far was the best. Love the chart you made. Very helpful. Cheers
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UGH, SO HELPFUL
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Wow, the best video explaining how ND filters work for video and photography. And I've seen a lot of them. Thank you so much! 🙏🏻
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Thanks, great video👍
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Great vid, thanks!
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Great video and explanation. I am filming cars and use a polarizer filter. Would you recommended combining those and the just use a 4 stop ND on top of a pol filter (as your chart mentions treating a pol filter as 2 stops)?
Hi @dkalfaguy, I'm glad it helped. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. Yes, I would. Actually, for ease of use, try the polarizer on top and ND under. That's a normal thing to do when your polarizer isn't dark enough.
By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :)
Have a great day!
Thanks man, that chart is just perfect! Do you think for making videos on snow in open sky day, that number of stops should be the same?
Hi @alissonfreitas4739, I'm glad it helped. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. For snow, not quite.
Here's why. I used light from the sun as my base to create the chart. What the chart doesn't account for is light being added to the existing lighting by reflecting or bouncing off of other objects. Snow is very reflective and bounces a lot of light. It's why we all get sunburned so quickly when out in the snow. I would probably start with an added stop and test exposure from there. I hope this helps. Please let me know how it goes.
By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :)
Have a great day!
Good video. I recently got a Lumix G9. I shoot paintball content and wanted an nd filter partially to help protect the lens and to help light etc. Mostly shoot autofocus etc atm but do manual as well.
I live in California and most of the time even during winter it's usually sunny and I wanted to buy a PolarPro but only 1 for now because of the price and was wondering which one is the best if I was going to buy 1 for my main application.
I am thinking for now the nd64 is solid which is 6 stops, the nd16 is 4 stops and nd8 is 3 stops.
I'll probably get them all one day but seems from your video the nd64 might be a solid overall one for now.
Seems like the right verdict?
Hey Goofy, thank you for asking. I appreciate it. There are a couple of things I would consider given your explanation.
First, fast action… I assume…I assume you want to capture paintball and be able to freeze the action. That means you’ll want to shoot at 60fps… at 4K, probably. That’s a 120 shutter speed which pulls you down 1 stop. I think if you want to go 1080p you can shoot at 180fps (sorry don’t own a G9), that’s 360 shutter. Almost 3 stops.
I believe the G9, even though it’s a four thirds sensor does well with the native ISO range. So… I would reduce light and add back (1-2 stops), good Lord that is so technically wrong to say :) with ISO.
I think you may want to test your ISO range in a dark room and see if the G9 can absorb 3 stops. It’s a good thing to know anyway. If it can, I’d go with 6 stop ND just so you can shoot outdoors at 24 fps and still hit good exposure. When you go slower, use ISO to make up the difference. If not, maybe a 5 to help it when you slow down with a higher fps. It seems counter intuitive but I’m sure you got it.
Also, last part… I know PolarPro makes some good filters, but if I’m investing (and I did) I would go with Breakthrough Photography filters. IMHO.
Last, last part… If any of this is confusing please ask. I answer all my comments and I’m here to help.
Cheers!
@358studios makes sense thanks for the explanation. I went with the 6 stop to start and will probably get 3 stop or so in the future. Yes I shoot primarily 4k 60fps. I learned you can adjust iso slightly if needed.
Hey Sean …you’re just fun… And you know what you’re talking about …thanks for your video.
Thanks! :)
Great!! Thank you! 🙏 sub'd
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Great video. I film a lot outdoors with my canon m50 and my lens of choice is the sigma 16mm. Would you recommend getting a fixed nd256 over getting a variable nd? If you were to recommend a variable, which would it be
Hi there, great question. Because you can use your ISO to make up the difference of a cloudy day, if you're filming in direct sunlight I would go with 6 stops. If in shade of direct sunlight 5 stops.
Variable filters can only give you a clean frame (no cross polarization) when they aren't pushed to their full capacity. Clean variable filters are also expensive. Check out the filters from Breakthrough Photography. They have the best in my opinion. I hope that helps.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :)
Have a great day!
Appreciated
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Have a great day!
Great video. I’m searching for nd filters for my Bmpcc 6K g2 and struggling between a fixed IRND vs a VND.
Hi Quiztasia, I'm glad it helped. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
The Black Magic camera is great. What lenses are you using? As for your ND question. The two that you name are very different and I guess it would depend on how much IR pollution you were worried about in your videos. You will only get IR pollution as you really stop down with the filter (like 6 or more stops).
Because of cross-polarization, I only use a VND for outdoor team sports pictures, when I'm blending strobe lighting with wildly varying ambient light. Think clouds on a soccer field. In that situation, with still pictures, the VND is invaluable but with video, it's hard to cut and change exposure for every cloud.
I stick to the regular ND filters for video and end up using my 6-stop the most. Breakthough Photography has been my go-to ND for the past several years. Check them out: amzn.to/3K07wIh. Amazing glass! I hope that helps. Please let me know.
By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :)
Have a great day!
Hi. 1/50 shutter - F4 - ISO 640 (FLOG minimum ISO) Do I have to choose ND32 or ND64? (Bright Sunlight)
Hi Yasin, great question and the first time someone has asked when using F Log. Minimum sensitivity for F Log (I think) is ISO 800, but let's just work your situation with ISO 640 and a sunny day.
At ISO 100, 1/50 shutter, F/4 on a sunny day you need a 5 stop reduction or ND32. BUT, you are shooting in F Log with an ISO 640 which means we need to cut even further.
ISO 640 is one of those fun ones because it's figured in 1/3 stops. Here we go. 100 to 200 (1 Stop), 200 - 400 (2 Stops), 400 to 640 (2-2/3 Stops). If you went to ISO 800 it would be a full 3 stops.
So, you fall just underneath needing to add an additional 3 stops because your shooting in F Log. Let's assume you bump your ISO 640 to 800. That's 3 stops. Here's the summary.
Add 3 stops to 5 (ND32) and you end up with 8 stops (ND256). If you want to stay with ISO 640 and use an ND256, you'd need to open up your aperture 1/3 stop. Something like f/3.5 instead of f/4.
Unfortunately, your ISO requirement severely limits your flexibility to add light or increase your aperture. But, any clouds or hazing of the sun, and you can just increase your ISO to continue. Since you won't be reducing your ISO, you can stick with the ND256 and adjust your ISO up for lack of lighting challenges or adding to your depth of field by closing down your aperture. You just won't be able to adjust for an increase in lighting.
Lastly, and I think you'll want to test this on your setup, does your camera focus with an ND256 filter attached. Some autofocus systems won't work with this much light reduction. If you're good with manual focus, no worries, but it's something to consider.
I appreciate you asking and please feel free to ask more questions if this doesn't fully answer your question.
Hey, did you by chance subscribe to my channel? :)
Have a great day and please let me know how it goes.
Cheers!
@@358studios First of all, thank you for your detailed answer.
My lens is XF16-80 F4 (minimum F4 aperture)
-One more question: Can I shoot video with the ND1000 (10-stop).
I will need to raise the ISO and these will usually be manual video captures.
-I want to finish long exposure photo and video work with a single filter :)
Hi Yasin, yeah the 10-stop will work well. You will likely have to manual focus everything, but for the shots you described you would anyway. I would test your camera and see how far you can go before noise starts to show up. There will be a point that you will really notice the difference from one stop to the next.
For photography, the 10-stop is the one I use for water or light streaks.
Please let me know how it goes.
Cheers.
I plan to shoot on iPhone, I guess 6 stops is the best scenario? Since I can't change f
Hi @henricuspriasetiawan290, I'm glad it helped. Sounds like you got the content of the video. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it. Yes, 6-stops is the mark for a bright sunny day and if you want to control your shutter speed and shoot at 24fps. The iPhone is a great place to start with video.
By chance, did you subscribe to my channel? :)
Have a great day!
@@358studios Thanks. I've subscribed!
I'm just wondering if I want to get 7 or even up to 10 stops since I can only adjust the iso. Planning to experiment with black mist filter as well. Just trying to experiment the hell out of my iPhone lol
Sounds like fun! I'm not sure i totally understand your question but experimenting is the best way to learn how to get results. When I was learning, I would write down all my settings and the results. Have fun!
Thank for ND Chart, specific for VIDEO work,
Here's my question, ( i am aware that you suggested 6 stop ND that works in most outdoor scene)
(1) 3 Stop is good for cloudy day video in daylight
(2) 6 stop is good for full bright sunny day video in day light.
If you can share a SHORT on youtube , to answer this things about which would be better.
I have to choose one ND filter for my need ( burned my hand by going with variable filter already, yeah, costly affair , hahahaha ) , either 3 stop or 6 stop , specific need to be used in RF 28-70, F2 lense, 95mm. Your response will help me to clear the confusion./
thanks
Hi Hardik. Thank you for asking. I'm working on a video right now with another chart outlining lighting conditions that I think will help. Quick question. Do you like to shoot video wide open at f/2 or do you stop down the lens? If you stop down the lens, what f/stop do you like to use (most of the time)? Video out soon.
Thanks, Sean
@@358studios thank you.
I play mostly at F2 or around F5 for video.
Hi there, that's a 2 stop difference, which kind of throws your needs one way or the other, especially when shooting on a cloudy day outdoors. What would you say you prefer and what is your outdoor lighting... most of the time?
@@358studios so mostly its either one of these, being 2 stop difference. Not using any video light for outdoor as of now.
For outdoor shooting , Priority-wise
(1) Cloudy ( i like look of F2, BOOKEH MAGNET)
(2) Bright daylight/Sunny Day/Clear Sky ( i use F5 around, sometime less bookeh is ok as long as footage it exposed properly, for me being minimalist - one man team )
I guess these 2 covers majority outdoor shooting scenario on Planet EARTH.
If i can get ONLY ONE SOLID ND, 95mm ( in conjuction with CPL ( count there as one more F-Stop reduction, stacking sequence will be like Lense > CPL > ND) .
Which Solid ND it should be ? 3 Stop / 4 stop / 6 stop? (+1 stop i am getting from my Cokin 95mm CPL already being permanent on my RF 28-70)
If you get chance try to throw some light on ND (Breakthrough Photography) vs IRND ( like Kolari IRND) with some test footage if possible. Both claims to be color neutral, but IRND really helps in getting PURE BLACK for Canon R6?