Idk why but my brain goes to all the prison youtube I've seen where they wear like 20 layers of clothes when they know thier about to get into a conflict.
I'm planning to test all my armors with a friend who makes weapons. I might do a smaller test soon but want to make a big video about it but am very bad at planning
So padded armor requires a vast quantity of high quality fabric. Does this mean padded cloth armor is extremely expensive for a conscripted peasant to own?
well yes, but no. there are many types of padded armor but we can separate them into 2 categories, stuffed and layered. stuffed is the cheapest armor you can have. 2 or more layers of cloth stuffed with anything flexible. hay, horse hair, wool, cotton, other scraps of cloth and more. its simple to make, what most soldiers provably wore and provides very poor protection. its basically just a jacket. its better to fall in the thorny bushes with a jacket on, but wouldn't rely on it in a fight. but layered high thread count cloth armor can stop arrows and swords and were the medieval equivalent to Kevlar. but it might actually cost you more than mail armor.
its an interesting case as it pretty much solves the problem of piercing vounrability with impregnating cloth with glue and various other materials (depends on the construction). But you just made a hardened breastplate that is as flexible but much protective than metal. thats why later on Linothorax usually has metal plating under or over or on the spear holding side, as the main protection is still the massive aspis shields.
@@thebordoshow I'm trying to gather resources to test a theory about this. There must have been cheaper options. The infill could have been flax or hemp rope mixed with glue, goat hair felt with glue or even flax tow with glue, as well as all combinations. I've done test on scraps of linen cloth. The white surface is easily achieved with a gesso of glue mixed with kaolin, pipe clay, chalk or gypsum. Gypsum works best.
@@Mochafk1 medieval "black gambesons" made of cloth daubed with pine pitch might be a direct descendant. Byzantine iconography has many muscled cuirasses which look dark colored and were probably made with this method.
padded armor is really underrated
1250 AD propaganda
That's a beautiful Shashka in the beginning.
thanks
Idk why but my brain goes to all the prison youtube I've seen where they wear like 20 layers of clothes when they know thier about to get into a conflict.
thats because it works
rope armor when?
Uh, very interesting. Its the same thing for kevlar
keep it up :) i love old armor and weapons explained :)
Can you do tests with rope and/or non-woven felt.
I think felt will work better against thrusts.
I'm planning to test all my armors with a friend who makes weapons.
I might do a smaller test soon but want to make a big video about it but am very bad at planning
So padded armor requires a vast quantity of high quality fabric. Does this mean padded cloth armor is extremely expensive for a conscripted peasant to own?
well yes, but no.
there are many types of padded armor but we can separate them into 2 categories, stuffed and layered.
stuffed is the cheapest armor you can have. 2 or more layers of cloth stuffed with anything flexible. hay, horse hair, wool, cotton, other scraps of cloth and more. its simple to make, what most soldiers provably wore and provides very poor protection. its basically just a jacket. its better to fall in the thorny bushes with a jacket on, but wouldn't rely on it in a fight.
but layered high thread count cloth armor can stop arrows and swords and were the medieval equivalent to Kevlar. but it might actually cost you more than mail armor.
What about Linothorax armor?
its an interesting case as it pretty much solves the problem of piercing vounrability with impregnating cloth with glue and various other materials (depends on the construction).
But you just made a hardened breastplate that is as flexible but much protective than metal.
thats why later on Linothorax usually has metal plating under or over or on the spear holding side, as the main protection is still the massive aspis shields.
@@thebordoshow It is interesting that in later periods of history the Linothorax was completely forgotten.
@@Mochafk1 because its very expensive relative to how much it protects.
@@thebordoshow I'm trying to gather resources to test a theory about this. There must have been cheaper options. The infill could have been flax or hemp rope mixed with glue, goat hair felt with glue or even flax tow with glue, as well as all combinations.
I've done test on scraps of linen cloth. The white surface is easily achieved with a gesso of glue mixed with kaolin, pipe clay, chalk or gypsum. Gypsum works best.
@@Mochafk1 medieval "black gambesons" made of cloth daubed with pine pitch might be a direct descendant. Byzantine iconography has many muscled cuirasses which look dark colored and were probably made with this method.