The Unsettling Truth about Human Consciousness | The Split Brain experiment that broke neuroscience
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- In the 1939 neuroscientists began cutting living human brains in two in order to treat certain types of epileptic seizures. Subsequent experiments on those patients gave science an unnerving window into the nature of human consciousness. It turns out that there might be more versions inside of your own brain than you might be comfortable with.
CORRECTION: In this piece I stated each eye sent information to alternate hemispheres. This was not correct. Instead, as the diagram shows, the eyes divide the field of view into left and right sides and transmit each side to alternate hemispheres. The net effect is still the same as I explained in the video. Thanks to all the people who pointed out my error.
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CORRECTION: In this piece I stated each eye sent information to alternate hemispheres. This was not correct. Instead, as the diagram shows, the eyes divide the field of view into left and right sides and transmit each side to alternate hemispheres. The net effect is still the same as I explained in the video. Thanks to all the people who pointed out my error.
Thank you for the video.🌱
Very cool - does something similar happen when people lose sight in one eye?
Don't forget that who we are at any given moment is also heavily reliant on the different neurotransmitters.
For example, someone with a bad diet doesnt get folate. Homocysteine skyrockets, anger through the roof, neuron myelination is effected negatively. The way you will react to the world... the person you would be is different there than if you had folate properly working... for example people who have mthf variant and cannot properly metabolize regular folate. They need methylfolate.
Or people with MAOA-L variant that makes them produce less of the maoa enzyme that breaks down neurotransmitters like dopamine, norepinephrine, and seratonin. So if for example you get a B2 deficiency you get MAOA deficiency and that build up of neurotransmitters causes psychosis and other psychological disturbances. It is also common that everyone gets some kind of defficiency due to bad nutrition at some point during their life during the year etc. A great cause of poverty and violence that could be eliminated with some observation and supplementation.
Also the universe has been aware of itself for quite a while. Awareness and consciousness can be broken down into several layers. For example, the simplest means that a system has configurations of elements that together trigger a cascade of changes to record the external environment into itself which them propogates action back outward towards to environment. Thats a brain or an atom.
Science needs to find another way indeed, when you get a chance look into wave - particle duality being the personality. Were quantum physicist meets psychology. Psychophysics
About ten years ago I had a major heart attack. I flat lined and they had to jump start me. I very distinctly remember regaining consciousness. I could feel different parts of my various systems coming back on line. No, there were no near death experiences, it just felt like going to sleep. But when I started coming back on line, it definitely felt like a computer booting up. First I could see the faces of the doctors telling me to wake up, but I couldn't understand what they were saying. Then it started to make more sense, but I couldn't understand where I was and what was happening to me. It was like, what are these things? Oh, they're people. Why are they yelling at me? What does it mean? Oh wait...I think I'm starting to understand them... oh, that's right...I had a heart attack...they're helping me... It was a very strange experience.
After having a seizure,it happens the exact same.
The image in your eyes starts to boot up,increasing its frames little by little.The mouth is unable to speak yet,all you can do is think or talk in your head.And your muscle memory returns progressively.
Basically a brain reset.
Same thing happened to me after waking up from passing out. Seems like something universal to experience in any brain-shutting-down situations
If I had to guess, it's different centers in the brain going temporarily off, and then coming back online, for various reasons.
After a heart attack, it might be a lack of oxygen when flatlining. Then once your cardiovascular system started working again, adequate oxygenated blood flow starts to flood the various parts of the brain again, but sections at a time.
If I had to guess, after a seizure sounds like it's probably more complicated, but it's also parts coming back online one at a time, too?
Thats exactly how i felt on mushrooms. I almost forgot the meaning words, what people were. And even dates didnt make sense, i remember asking myself in my head "why js it sept.9? Who are this people (my friends and tripsitter). Why does my back feel fresh (i was sweating but couldnt interpret it). And who was *ex girl's name* (just broke up with here like a few months prior).
Thanks a lot for sharing!! It was helpful.
As an epileptic, I've experienced this understanding first hand (the hard way). When coming back from a strong seizure, some part of my brain is trying to hear, some part is just always talking, one part is trying to experiment to gather empirical evidence maybe by talking out loud... But then when one part that's confused about why what's coming out of my mouth is just jibberish, there's another part trying to calm the whole "self" down as the other part starts yelling "red flag! The voice isn't saying the right thing!" Even your smells become memories. Memories become "now". And as you slowly come back together, the memory is still there that you could feel all of the different pieces of the brain separately because they got quite a different juxtaposition from each other for that brief few seconds as the seizure was happening. It's really, really strange.
My goodness. What must you be going through 😞
I know that feeling. You're aware that you are looking for your phone but can't remember where it was and I was still in a dream-like state so I could not go look for it with a normal free will, yet after a while it appears in front of me without knowing how, it's like the other part of the brain knows where it is but cannot tell the conscious part.
As a fellow epileptic although only slightly, I’ve never heard anyone’s description of a seizure quite capture the experience like yours. Thanks for sharing
Sounds terrifying 😮
But you are not 6 different people.
Some people seem to miss the point that having different hemispheres of the brain perceiving different types of sensory data is not the same as multiple personalities.
To a T, this also isn't consciousness. This is sensation. This is a clear mishap on what was presented here
lol you didn't listen to what he was actually saying then. He didn't say you have multiple different personalities, he's saying that your two half's of brain that is not connected to eachother has two of the same personality's ( or more) that kind of split. Kind of like a street that forks . That said street is the same street but now has a divider stopping the two from thinking the same thing. lol I probably didn't explain it very well but that's basically what he's saying .
I dead set thought the thumbnail was a picture of a wall nut
Yes what I stated. Guys thinking this is many you's or some BS. Not at all. Just the brain can't function at 100% and it processing information at like 70% and it is a lot slower also.
@@southface8838 0:30 "As well as evidence that there is not just one "You" living inside your brain, but potentially dozens, if not hundreds of different Yous, always competing for control of your body."
You said: "He didn't say you have multiple different personalities". These statements clash.
SURE, thats only in the first 30 seconds of a 14 minute video, and he does go deeper to explain a point he's trying to make, but that does not change the opening statement,
which like everything in a scientific evaluation, has to be backed and made in a most concise, impossible to misinterpret, way.
This opening statement claims that after cutting people's brains in half, scientists healed epilepsy and then found out that everyone has 12-100 different Identities (You's). That's a wild statement that already tells me that, if any scientific method has been used in this video, it has been grossly warped or misused for the purpose of generating views.
It already stopped me from watching it further. I'm a student mysel, so I will just use my access to the library and my learned ability on how to properly find out about things, to find out if I truly have 200 Personalities and if its safe to cut my damn brain in half, thank you.
Great video. I have a little personal experience to relate. I have schizophrenia. This mainly results in me nearly always hearing what sounds like 2 or 3 people talking just out of earshot. I can't hear individual words but I get their intonation. I'm fully aware of the fact that it's an auditory hallucination but I would bet my last dollar that the sounds are real due to their quality. What i mean is that it has the correct acoustics and tone. When i first got sick, I would always look so my doctor flipped the context of the scenario by suggesting to me that if there was indeed someone out there, I don't think it has anything to do with me so who cares. I'm not doing anything wrong by being at home. Oddly that worked like a charm. It's like the hum of a computer fan to me now.
With that context, my experience. One day I locked myself out of my apartment. I tried to turn the knob and when it didn't turn, my brain already had answers and said "you're being robbed". None of the evidence pointed to that but I implicitly took it as gospel I already knew it. I phone the police and when they talk to me, I realize my brain is feeding me false information. It went like this. "Sir, did you see them go in?" "No, they slipped in when i set my trash out." "How many are there?" This is the first moment i ever thought about it and i said "3 guys and a woman with a baby." "If you didn't see them go in, how do you know how many there are?" I am no longer in control of my answers as i watch myself say "I let them sleep in the living room last" I have a puzzled look on my face because i can't believe what I'm saying and he asks "Sir, have you ever had a history of mental illness?" I regained control of myself right before i could start to say "yes, i do but this has nothing......" and said "yeah, it's probably whats going on here isn't it? Can you call this number for me?". It may seem like your brain is your friend but he is a liar and i got receipts! Lol
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
That's fascinating. How does something like that come about ? Or does it just come out of nowhere?
@@littlebrother82 Well I suppose you could say that the information is emergent. It comes from nowhere. Your brain spends a lot of power to contextualize external stimuli but it doesn't really know what is and isn't external. In my case, my brain sometimes hands me stories that under the slightest scrutiny fall apart. The thing is that when handed the information, I "already know it" so i don't question the nonsense at first. I guess I'm lucky that I am able to recognize it happening and can catch myself but I can't prevent it from happening. No amount of meds will ever get rid of the voices and I will always have to triple question everything that "I" choose to do. Life is weird sometimes.
Edit: I can best describe it like this. In my head the things make sense. When i start to say the words they make less sense and when i hear the words i've said i can't believe it. Oddly it is a though there is a difference in the one thinking, the one speaking and the one hearing. I don't know if that makes any sense but there is sometimes a disconnect between what I think I'm doing and what i am doing. One part of my brain perceives another as if they aren't connected
If you put it this way it makes sense why people with amnesia generally don't lose their personality. In a way, losing their memories is equivalent to losing 1% of themselves. The memories did shape the rest of 99% over their life and built them over all as a person but losing the 1% itself does not affect what was already built.
I have actually had two seizures which affected my memory (saying "Amnesia" always sounded very.. soap-opra)- One only got my experiences, but my skills stayed intact - the more severe of the two got my experiences (again), and some of my skills - neither really affected my personality. BTW, Let me tell you it's an interesting and sometimes scary experience being told about things you did, but can't remember - they might as well have happened to some other person entirely. Some things are on the edge of recollection - and can be brought back, like a book with the table of contents ripped out.
Remember that this is only one field of scientific exploration. If you ask an engineer, a metallurgist, a physicist, and a technician to explain a machine, you will get very different answers based on their understanding not only of the machine, but of a question.
The engineer can tell you mechanically how it works, and make a best guess of what job it is meant to perform. The metallurgist will tell you a great deal about the individual components and what the elements and alloys used to form them imply about the larger machine as a whole, the physicist will tell you about how it operates based on existing evidence. The technician who actually uses the machine will tell you what it does and how to use it, even without knowing the deeper complexities of the machine.
Looking at the brain only on a biological level, or psychological level, or neurochemical level, any of these are ultimately going to be a mistake and give you an incomplete picture. Saying that the brain is composed of multiple overlapping selves is a statement that one can only reply to with "yeah no shit really? Did you need a phd to work that out?". What that actually translates to in a deeper sense, "what is the self" is something that humanity will likely go extinct before it has a fully formed understanding of the answer to that question.
Put it simple. In science you just follow the evidence and make a conclusion based on said evidence, you defend said conclusion only so far as until contrary evidence becomes more compelling, you do not invest in your conclusions, you must be willing to discard them with indifference if a better theory presents itself. If someone tells you they can say with certainty how the universe began and how it got from there to where it is today, that person is setting them selves up for failure. Because certainty is by the very nature of the universe, something that is subjective. Point of fact, recent experiments bring into question if there IS any single objectively accurate interpretation of the universe. And even if you do observe an objective fact of the nature of the universe, you can never be truly certain if it is an observation of something that is objective.... Or something that is objective because you observed it.
@@ParadoxEcho ok bro
If you take head injuries it can affect your personality pretty significantly.
i guarantee someone with amnesia will have less anxiety (except about the general situation, logically understanding they don't know what's going on when they should) if their memories are filtered out and therefore do things they normally wouldn't. sorta like a huge dose of alcohol or a head injury.
The thing that's beyond me, is how did anyone ever think of "hm yeah let's just cut it" without thinking what kind of nightmarish consequences it may have for the poor person, even trumping any grand mal seizure. Luckily that didn't happen, but the idea of actually doing this also needed a pioneering surgeon who had some level of madness.
The history of surgery is the history of torture, and intellectual/egotistical dominism..
I beat cancer in 10 days with curcumen and alpha-lipoic acid, rather than have my squamous cell carcinoma cut out by a skin specialist..
@@philipambler3825taken by pill or topic
@@philipambler3825whos' are telling me this?
you beat cancer in 10 days? dang you strong af@@philipambler3825
Because that's what doctors do, duh!
Ever since I heard this for the first time many years ago I thought the same thing ... HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT CUTTING THE BRAIN IN HALF WOULD NOT IMMEDIATLY KILL THE PATIENT !?!?!?
Well, it didn't kill the patient, that's how they knew, afterwards of course
you even can remove some parts of the brain and it will have no effect on you. that is known for some time now
I'm sure this was tested on an animal before being conducted on humans
People with disabilities have never been taken seriously so what do I tell you. Its like experimenting on criminals sentenced to death - similar remorse to knowing what would happen to these patients if the experiment went wrong
because the sides of the brain do not need to communicate to keep you breathing or your heart beating. that is a task for the medulla which is where the brain meets spinal cord, far from the connection of the two sides of the brain. well im not even sure if they knew that but i sure hope they did lol
I had a concussion about 12 years ago. Chain of events led to me dying for some minutes. Thank god the doctors were able to bring me back. I don't remember anything about what happened. Just woke up 4 hours later, heard people talking, couldn't open my eyes or "wake up" for a while until I remembered I could wake up. Crazy stuff. People say I changed a lot, but I was only a child so I don't know if I agree. In any case is an unanimous opinion in my family.
Epilepsy Patient for 15+ years here. Last year hit my head while having a seizure. Ever since then, every time I have seizure, I find everything new. The first time, all roads appeared new and I felt like tourist and yet I knew the way. Super weird feeling. Adjusted to it. The latest one caused me to remember everything as it was 19 years ago when I was in school. Felt super weird seeing my family grown up and old. Yet there was a part of me rationally thinking knowing I just don't remember.
I have a infant daughter whom I love and yet I find her 4 month old photo extremely foreign.
This would happen to my sister. She was always surprised I was blonde, divorced, and she had 2 children. It was heartwrenching.
@@SpicyGramCracker Just wanted to know for myself if you are okay with it. Were there any issues later on ? I haven't done a full check up after this
I have a disassociative disorder so sometimes places I've been to hundreds of times suddenly feel strange and unfamiliar like a dream. It's a really strange experience because one part of my brain recognizes we have been here but the other part doesn't remember being there so it gets super confusing. Honestly that explains why I have such a hard time remembering directions to getting places because my brain can't remember correctly
@@lunawolfheart336 This has happened to me on various drugs a few times. It was very common in my early regular marijuana using days too. I'd be walking home or whatever and just sort of forget where I was and felt like a tourist in the place I grew up all my life. It was a fascinating feeling and not really disturbing since I still had my rational brain and senses working fine and could snap myself out of it. Not the most safe when you're cycling though...
Sounds like jamais vu. It's the opposite of deja vu. It is actually known to be caused by seizures, but can occasionally happen normally like deja vu does. I've had it happen once when I looked at my mom. It's very weird how being familiar with someone changes your perception of them because she looked very different to me for a moment.
So i once took a large dosage of psilocybin, and during the trip, i could feel my consciousness break down, and feel the different parts of my brain controlling things. I had one voice saying calm down, another voice saying lay down because that would feel nicer, another voice reminding me to breathe, and then i started panicking and all the voices in unison started telling me i was okay and to just keep breathing. What's weirder about that trip is at one point i wondered what death was, and a voice said "come with me" and i was shown what felt like true nothingness. It felt like i was just shut off from the rest of my brain for a minute. Just nothing existing. No thoughts, no awareness. And then i came back to the voices all telling me different things to do to calm myself down. Changed my life after that. Got all my shit together, got a job, got my own apartment. Felt like a whole different person after that.
Sounds like we are the singular, outer masks covering many persons beneath.
Heard
How did you know that it was just a minute
Did you check the time, or did you feel as though it was one minute
Could you please elaborate a little more this is very interesting
I took 11G one day experienced something really similar to this. Changed me frl but scared me of death, the trip showed me how I was distancing myself from my family and made me realizing I'm really scared of losing them so yeah more scared of death
Don't you find it interesting that after this experience, you further embedded your ”self” into self imposed conformity, obedience and ultimately back into slave society?, It sounds like you were in the void where all matter is created from...was it peaceful there?..In these meat suits, we are all programmed like hardware software..bit like west-world..and they try very hard indeed to have us totally identify with these bodies..for their unpleasant agenda...Don't cling to this life dude, or be made to feel guilty for being separate from the crowd...Human emotion is how we are easily manipulated and controlled, false human morality that does not exist anywhere else..
I passed out once, and it felt like I just dozed off and woke up again in a matter of like 20 seconds, but it was actually about 20 minutes later. I distinctly remember bits and pieces of things coming back online, like I could see first, and then some amount of noticeable time after opening my eyes my hearing came back, and so on. But frustratingly, I struggled to come to terms with the passage of time and I didn't fully regain that ability for about 18 months. I had all the knowledge of time that anyone does, and I knew time was passing but I had no idea how to recognize it happening. It made work super annoying because I was just there, for an amount of time I couldn't reeeally quantify, and I relied heavily on checking clocks to understand how long I'd been anywhere (like when people check the time and go 'oh wow, I've been working on this report for 4 hours!' except it was like that for everything, minus the exclamation point because I started to see it coming). I think I just eventually got better and better at using other knowledge to ascertain time, like I knew an episode of my show was 22 minutes, so if I watched 2 episodes then I was on the couch for 44 minutes, or if I took note of the position of the sun in the sky I could guess that it had been an hour or two. I may have just completely relearned how to experience time. And I've come to the conclusion that time isn't real [in the sense that I used to think it was], it's essentially just the canvas that we lay down our interpretations on the chronology of events; it feels like something we've made up to help us understand sequence and I don't know what, but I think there's some deeper truth about time we haven't figured out yet.
Very very interesting! For what your saying I think I experienced it in very minor doses when in a dream. Lile trance after waking up in rare times. It's like you are in a Car that's moving. You see it move but can't actually feel or tell besides looking foe cues...
yep, I have a vasel vagal response. It has caused me to black out many times and I can attest to both the strangeness of time passage and to the slow quote coming back online sensations… Although I also remember, I was definitely somewhere else while I was out. I couldn't remember where but I wasn't nowhere.
i knew about this because one of my inner selves is the one that wakes me up in time when i ask him to wake me up the night before. Like just telling myself i need to wake up at 6am, i will regain consciousness around 5:55. It amazes me how well it can keep track of the time. All i need to give him is a look at the clock before bed so he knows his starting point. Works like clockwork.
Same worked for me for certain amount of time though I said that to my whole self.
I have to start doing that again
All hunters can do that. In C.S. Lewis' "The Chronicles of Narnia" the characters mention casually how that's common for people to do.
I myself will always, without fail, wake up 4 hours before my alarm clock, unless I try and trick the system, by setting my alarm 4 hours ahead. Then it will wake me up 4 hours before the time I actually want to wake up from.
It makes working a 9-4 hell on earth. X'D
Mentally ill
i thought it was just me, it's like an internal backup alarm. it has saved me from being late to shifts when my alarms wouldn't go off, although most of the time it's because i'll turn the last alarm off and go back to sleep without realizing that it was the last one lol. but then it's like something will jolt me awake minutes later, just before i would run out of time to get ready. i don't have a consistent sleep schedule, i rarely go to sleep at a regular hour because i have insomnia, so it absolutely isn't from my circadian rhythm which makes this even weirder
Yea, I feel like everyone accepts that we have an internal clock in our brains that can accurately wake us up with +/- 5 minutes of accuracy and we're randomly surprised by it when our alarms aren't set because we just wake up on time anyways.
Something curious about the human brain is specifically what senses and parts of the brain are more or less active during sleep. It seems that while we are unconscious our brains are still scanning for threats and interpreting language. I have answered questions asked to me while I was sleeping with zero recollection of it. Even though the part of my brain that forms memories was not yet active, the part that can interpret and respond to speech was. It made me wonder if the version of me that is dreaming is different from the version of me that constantly stands guard.
In our dreams most of us don't smell, hear, or taste anything, just sight and some sense of touch, but that sense of touch is usually just our real sense of touch making through into the dream. We sort of "hear" sounds, but its some black magic our brain is performing where we know what someone said and we know what their voice sounded like, but we never heard them say words to us; our brains just make us falsely remember that we heard it because that's the only thing that would make sense to us.
Anyways, point is that our dreams don't actually use any of our senses besides sight. All of the real senses remain active during your dreams, constantly interpreting what's happening around you and deciding whether or not it is worth waking you up. The brain is actually using some thinking in this process, for example someone simply talking is less likely to wake us up than someone saying our name. We unconsciously know that our name means someone needs us to wake up. We are also discerning familiar and unfamiliar voices/sounds, tastes and smells while asleep.
I had my right temporal lobe removed in order to manage epileptic seizures. It has been by far the most difficult life experience to date. This information is very interesting to me, however, it does not reflect the same experiences I've had. Being a medical guinea pig has been a very, very unsettling trip that no one else seems to be able to relate to. I look normal on the exterior. I appear to be able to function in a somewhat reasonable fashion, however, for me life is nothing like I understood it to be before the surgery...
I'm both fascinated by your comment and saddened by it. I'm sorry that you are suffering this way.
Zafirodeagua984, I'm sorry, your experience sounds very difficult. Are the seizures gone or better managed? How is life different now?
Thanks for sharing this. I am sorry that you have suffered.
If possible, can you please say a few things about how you see the world has changed since your surgery. You have had a unique experience and could have some very valuable insights into how Consciousness works.
This be true, I was part of the brain cut out. Miss you btw
@@Madferreironot the time man, read the room
This is the biggest problem facing AI. We really can't teach AI Consciousness because... we still can't define what it really is or where it even is in the brain. Its fascinating really.
Exactly! AI is 100% conscious or all inert depending on the definition.
No, the biggest problem is that they can't stop it from being every -ism because that's truth, and they have to hamstring it as "woke".
It doesn't hurt to be kind even if it may not be alive or sentient
What makes it spookier is that since we don't exactly know, we also can't specifically avoid doing it by accident.
I think we are the stepping stone to a more advanced AI without physical bodies...the mind seems to be infinite..
I had my first ever seizure 3 years ago whilst in a hospital for something else. I remember waking up and hearing peoples voices. I think one was saying "he's coming round" and saying my name. At first i didn't know what was going on and i couldn't feel anything, and within a few seconds i remember seeing things around me. Someone asked "do you know where you are?". I had one arm free and reached forward into air and studied my environment. It took me a couple of seconds to work out that i was on my side on a floor with peoples legs in front of me. "Im on a floor" i said. All the legs were weird because they were pointing sideways from my perspective. I recognised a pair of shoes and said "oh, ive just seen you" (in the appointment i was in for).
After that i became away i was being heavily restrained from behind, with my other arm up my back and a nurses knee bracing my back also. Some sort of recovery position. Anyway, im ok now. Its not quite as good an experience as others on here but it was definitely akin to booting up.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🧠 *Split Brain Surgeries: Unveiling Dual Consciousness*
- Split-brain surgeries aimed to treat epilepsy uncovered insights into human consciousness.
- The corpus callosum severance led to two distinct cognitive centers within one person.
- Joe's case showcased the separate functionality of hemispheres, sparking groundbreaking experiments.
03:37 🤲 *Disagreement Within a Single Mind*
- The experiments revealed conflicting perceptions between the brain's hemispheres.
- Language-oriented sides concocted stories to rationalize experiences, masking divided perceptions.
- The split-brain findings challenge the notion of a unified, singular consciousness.
06:07 🌐 *Consciousness as a Mosaic of Experiences*
- Despite separate cognitive processes, the brain amalgamates disparate data into a unified self.
- The suggestion arises that consciousness might not reside in a single entity but emerges from interconnected contexts.
- Personal experiences, biology, and interactions with the environment shape our consciousness.
08:05 🔄 *The Bidirectional Influence of Inner and Outer Worlds*
- A reciprocal relationship exists between inner biological states and our personalities.
- Our experiences, emotions, and environments trigger physiological responses shaping our consciousness.
- The notion of being part of a larger ecosystem, influenced by and influencing it, reflects consciousness.
10:18 🌌 *Contextualized Consciousness and Identity*
- The split-brain experiments disassemble the idea of a coherent, singular self-contained consciousness.
- Consciousness might be an amalgamation of varied contextual experiences rather than an isolated entity.
- The realization challenges conventional beliefs about self-identity and the nature of consciousness.
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@@sweetbnuy Don't be sad, utilizing AI is a major time saver and an invaluable tool. But I understand the hesitance.
Scott, Great piece. As one Buddhist rinpoche told me (paraphrasing from memory): “When we talk about caring for sentient beings, who are these beings? Realize that we contain within ourselves many sentient beings. We are composed of sentient beings. We can start by caring for these beings.”
That’s a great line. Who was the rinpoche?
@@sgcarney is someting similar to dalai lama for the budist monk from tibet.ithink the budist monks have something to say about consciouness.
Lol. Yes, I get what a rinpoche is. I was wondering which one you were speaking with.
@@sgcarney I heard that over twenty years ago when I was first learning about Buddhism and starting to attend teachings. The source is lost to me, which is odd because the statement itself has stuck with me for all these years. I've searched for it in written form for years, but to no avail. It could have been Thubten Zopa. But I'm just not sure. :(
Who is that who is caring about these other sentients?
This almost brings me to tears. I was diagnosed with focal dystonia years ago, and my guitar playing came to an end for years. One day, I read an article from Michael j fox and he stated that his Parkinson symptoms abated when he played hockey. I don't know why, but I connected that with feelings and emotions to the physical body. It inspired me, and I began meditation and actually realized my body had made physical snap shots in my brain of emotional experiences. I am absolutely free of focal dystonia and have a scary mental control of my body now I didn't know was possible. Focal dystonia is listed as uncurable. What else possible to change with the mind!
Can you explain more? I don’t know about the condition and you didn’t say if you were able to play guitar again?
That's amazing! I wonder if what you learned could help others with the same condition. Meditation is so much more powerful than I think people give it credit for if you learn how to do it well.
Just read Paramahamsa Yogaananda's book Autobiography of a Yogi. You won't believe what kinda "stunts" a fully enlightened individual can perform, being able to think at or very "near" the most fundamental level of consciousness, called e.g. pure consciousness or transcendental consciousness, in Sanskrit for instance turiiya ([the] fourth [state of consciousness), or aatmaa (for non-linguists: atman, self), draSTaa (lemma: draSTR, [the] seer), puruSa, etc. - Greetings from Finland, the Land of Käärijä (Wrapper).
Meditation cured it all?
Fascinating video! Really enjoyed watching this and the way you explained such a hard concept to grasp is incredible.
At a young age, I questioned how others had seen me. How I can't see myself outside my body. This was my consciousness questioning my own existence of how the world saw me. Crazy cool to think.
@@jamesfoxsmith you can it’s a mirror 🪞 lol and if you want third person just use a camera
@@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 I believe she means to see and judge ones self as others would without their own personal bias.
@@jamesfoxsmithdon’t be sad. Exist a lot of you, as many people live in the world and see you. Don’t care about it, it’s normal and to accept
I study music and cognition, and in cognitive sciences, there's this field called 'embodied cognition' (first proposed by Antonio Varela and Maturana). One of the hypotheses about consciousness is that it is an emergent phenomenon. In other words, we cannot find a physical place where our consciousness resides. Instead, it is something that starts to exist thanks to the interaction of the many parts of our bodies (not just our brains) with each other and with our body's interaction with the environment.
I always wondered how dogs or cats or any other animal are born knowing what to do, at least for the most part. A dogs parents cannot speak to it and tell it how to mate and reproduce. But as it gets older, it just finds itself doing what it takes to perform the act and survive. Humans, on the other hand, are different. *The brain didnt know that it existed, and ended up naming itself.* This to me further proves that the brain is a superorganism.
Taking this concept even further then allows us to think of everything around us as having some level of consciousness relative to the complexity of said object/being. For example, the chair I am sitting on could have some tiny fragments of consciousness, but not enough to consider it aware of itself or even it's surroundings. The more humans manipulate and interact with objects/beings around us, the more consciousness it will have. Part of my brain could have once been a spoon used by an ancient Egyptian, or a leaf on a tree eaten by a dinosaur, or even a planet from another galaxy.
Taking this concept even further to the macro level, could planets be more conscious than humans? Stars? Galaxies? Could the entire universe be one large super consciousness? Since there are detectable electromagnetic connections between the planets, stars, and galaxies, these connections could act as neurons operating with different, yet similar, physics than those within our bodies.
This theory can be easily debunked by considering the neural correlates of consciousness. For example, if we tinker with the inputs received by any layer of the neural network other than the last few, but make sure the inputs into the last few layers of the neural network remain unchanged, then we'll clearly see that the patient does not report any conscious change ─ because all higher cognitive processes are controlled by the latter neural layers. It is then easy to conclude that consciousness clearly emerges from these latter layers; all of the others aren't necessary at least when considering any given instant.
@@maxkho00 Wow, that is very interesting information, thank you for sharing. So would the layers prior to the last few be akin to unconscious actions in the brain?
@@cant_stop_pooping No problem! And exactly. Not necessarily "unconscious" but rather subconscious. Many things which you may intuitively assume you produce consciously are actually subconscious creations - such as all of your thoughts. Now, you can definitely influence your thoughts via introspection - i.e. telling your subconsciousness what you want it to output - but ultimately, it's still up to the subconsciousness to generate them. Think of your consciousness as the captain and your subconsciousness as the army. This picture will become a lot clearer if you do mindfulness meditation or even try psychedelics.
I have always thought about the theory that you are experiencing two separate consciousnesses when your brain is split, but you don't notice it because they are literally separated and there's no way for information to travel to the other side of the brain. Sounds trippy as hell, but it makes some sense.
There's a way for information to go from one part to another, but not in the direct way. You can feel one part of the body with another part, and also hear the same sound with both ears, so you, in fact, could talk to yourself or put the hand over the other hand and so on.
It's true it's not gonna to communicate as efficient as before, but still can work together.
There are other parts of the body that should be felt by both parts, but we are not consciously aware of them. E.g. gut has some neurons, ~ 500 million, and also they didn't cut the entire brain in half, so two parts are still aware there's a connection between them, just the old pathway of communicating is not.
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It's still one consciousness dude, it's just been split because it uses the brain. The man who made this video is deceived or a deceiver or simply ignorant, I 100% realized it when he said "you are the universe experiencing itself." Aka your "ego isn't real" the implication from that would be to discard the ego then, and that is a false spiritual enlightenment, aka a new age philosophical trap based off ancient left path teachings.
You are quite literally a unique person, or soul, and your 'ego' or sense of self is 1 person, your sole identity is what distinguishes you from the dirt, it is a literal gift from God to be given your own identity.
Yes, it may sound like they completely split the brain in half but they actually didn’t, just part of it.
@@overPowerPenguinWell the cortex is still intact, and attached to both hemispheres, but the two hemispheres can't communicate through it.. not in the way the corpus callosum allowed, anyway.
As someone who was wrongly prescribed some very hardcore drugs for a problem I never had and then suffered immeasurable dependency and neological disruption as a result after extreme, and I mean extreme difficulty getting off them. I am experiencing my self and consciousness and my sensory input in a fractured and disrupted way, and the amazing thing is, I have insight into how my brain gives rise to experience itself and the oddities it creates when things are not functioning correctly, especially when it comes to visual processing and modelling the physical world.
Can you be more specific? How do you think your brain gives rise to experience?
Fascinating! I have "Multiple Personality Disorder" aka "Disassociation Identity Disorder". Your video helps me understand how my brain might have built the neurological "walls" it needed to establish in order for me to emotionally survive the trauma of my childhood. In fact, my internal "house" has a structure that looks like rooms where my different personalities each "live" and have their own space. It has been a journey working with my therapist these past 16 years to find my way through the maze of my own mind. The brain is an amazing organ. Thank you.
I have a stepson who was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Later, we were informed that the two sides of his brain were not connected. He used the right side, which made it very difficult to maintain a time schedule. An artist once told me that when he used his right brain for creating, he had no sense of time.
How that artist deliberately use one side of his brain?!
@@neodimium It's not that it's deliberate it's just that the right side of the brain is known to handle all the "creative" thought processes while the left is the "logical" one.
@@neodimiumright lol
This makes sense. I’ve always been artistic when I was a child, but my teachers constantly complained that I had no comprehension of time passing.
@@tayloremriectx right, lol? Why... that is actually how it works...
This reminds me of how I see sleepwalkers/talkers. The phenomenon has always seemed so bizarre to me that people can perform whole tasks and speak coherent sentences yet their conscious mind is wholly unaware of what's happening.
I tend to talk in my sleep and I have never been aware of it, at all. Only because other people told me. It runs in my family, my brother tends to do the same. It's fascinating
Ah I have a really big habit of sleep talking. Usually it’s when someone comes into my room and asks me something but I’m having a nap and it’s like I’m asleep but can still from basic sentences and even have entire conversations. And when I wake up i barely remember something like that happening and only have a very vague dreamlike memory of it happening.
The number of times i had "woken up" as a kid actively taking a piss in front of the toilet with one of my parents actively talking to me and i was apparently responding, is still an interesting memory. Something in my brain must've rewired as i grew because i don't sleep walk in any way any more according to my wife and past partners. But i will still talk while "half asleep".
Me and my wife even have a term for it "sleepy Tim is an asshole. im sorry for what he said" or "Conscious Tim cannot be held accountable for what sleepy tim agreed to." and one of the more interesting things is "waking up" while someone is talking to me actually illicits what i call a "fear-anger" response as i become aware of the fact that im not aware of something i'm saying. I have what i can only describe as a fear of losing conscious control of my actions, it's not a recognized phobia as far as i've read. But it's less paralyzing and more of just an aversion to things like mind-altering substances.
For context on that; i was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD as a child in the 90s. I had been on many of the popular mild-meths as i call them (Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta, Strattera) over the course of about ~7 years until i was 13 and altogether stopped taking them without telling my parents. Almost failed 8th grade, but eventually got a foundation of coping mechanisms down to where i didn't need them to function. That said i do self-medicate with nicotine (Was cigarettes/vaping, now nicotine gum) and caffeine once per day as an adult. That experience made me so averse to taking medication that i have even happily told my dentist that he's welcome to start drilling a cavity out and i'll let him know if it starts to hurt, simply because the FEELING of lidocane wearing off irritates me so much that the ~5 minutes of mild discomfort is worth not dealing with that for 2 hours. I've personally unpacked a lot of those thoughts/feelings as an adult and came to the conclusion that my willingness to endure pain is slightly above average regarding the point where most people will take an aspirin, i won't unless i am at work and need to eliminate the distracting pain as soon as possible to be functional.
TL;DR: I was a sleepwalker/talker as a child, not anymore, but i still talk if i'm talked to while just falling asleep or just waking up. The experience is jarring and i don't like it.
isn't that just people talking and speaking in their dream, just that the body didn't lock itself up after falling asleep so the person starts talking and moves around
The conscious mind *is* aware, because its causing the actions to begin with. Imagine a conversation in your mind. As you speak, youll notice that your throat muscles slightly move as if you were actually speaking. This is because the brainsector responsiuble for speech is actively processing, and sending signals, however faint, to the muscles to create speech. Its not that your brain is causing you to speak on its own, but your consciousness is effectively daydreaming. If you imagine something, it can take over your whole vision.
Lifelong epileptic and diagnosed with grey matter heterotopia (which causes the seizures). I can tell you that my perception of "reality" is constantly in flux depending on the kind of seizure activity I'm experiencing. Thanks for this video.
I really am glad I found your channel 😅… this is amazing that we’re unifying like this together 💀😎.. totally eye opening. Even after randomly reading the book Incognito 10 years ago.. this is amazing to hear someone talk about it
Having "recovered" from a massive epileptic seizure, and the consequential "rebuild" I understand what you are saying. However recently I underwent two separate cataract eye surgeries. My left eye was the first to be done and the second (right eye)was done 8 years later . I have good eyesight in both eyes, but my brain doesn't accept the right eye vision in the same way as the left. It's almost as if that RH vision is used simply as a back up and isn't really relevant.
The oddest part of all this is that my right eye vision was the one I relied on as being the good eye. Now I have conflict. Thank you for this insight it explains a lot. My ophthalmologist is in for a conversation at the next appointment.
Another aspect was the loss of being able to play the guitar. The mind says I can do it but the body doesn't do it. It's not a nice place to be in. I'm 71 years old.
That sucks. I hope that you can build up some of your guitar skills again.
It might be that some connections to the parts of your brain that let you play guitar got a bit scrambled. You may be able to heal some of those connections a bit if you work on stuff you *can* do related to music. Drumming on the body of the guitar while listening to music? Strumming along to something without using the fret board? That's my first guess of things that might help rebuild those connections
The eye thing you mention is it like amblyopia? Where the vision coming in is just not fully pictured kinda like looking out of your peripheral vision but its all the vision you are getting outta that eye?
What you describe is like my monovision, I’m not sure why it’s called that since I can see fine out of both eyes, but one is nearsighted and the other is normal. So except for reading (which I don’t need reading glasses for though I’m 61), I’m really only using the normal eye most of the time but I don’t notice anything strange.
Your brain got used to not using that eye, especially after such a long time. That's probably exactly how it was working when you couldn't see well out of it, and just hasn't adjusted to being usable yet.
I wonder if you covered your left eye for a while if it would even out (not without talking to a doctor first though obviously). Or if there are OT exercises you can do to reinforce the use of both of your eyes together, like playing sports with hand-eye coordination
I had a cosmetic procedure on my eyes which damaged one eye muscle and left me with double vision. I have finally got glasses to correct this but I realize the injured eye muscle is for my dominant eye. This is worse because if I want to look with one eye, I have to close my best eye so the image is not as good. I don't know if I explained this well and I'm so sorry I got that surgery.
As I study to understand consciousness better, I sometimes ask myself what the purpose is for going down the rabbit hole over and over again. I think because understanding consciousness gives you better control over your navigation through this world, in sickness and in health. Thank you for your research and information!
For me it's soothing. Trying to understand consciousness is helping me to overcome anxieties and existentional crisis. I think I'm existentional nihilist, so this studies and findings are really comforting for me.
@@Unurinen For others it's to escape their problems or make them seem so insignificant compared to the larger scale. Naturally we are 3 dimensional beings. I often wonder what the realms of understanding would be like from a higher dimensional plane. Probably would be even more overwhelming as the the more you know the more you don't know
Consciousness is pretty cool
I agree
And it allows each of us to make better decisions to improve our quality and quantity of life. Most people still don't really understand that they're are not monolithic blocks of "me". We are each of us self-mobile, self-aware environments. The cells of each organ live in their own environment in which there are no stars, cultures, or civilizations but each group of cells consists of living organisms that use the environment they're in (the rest of the body) to carry out their own life functions in coordination with the cells around them. Pollute that environment with chemical garbage (drugs, unhealthy food, etc) and that's what the cells will try to assimilate and become.
But pretty much everyone ignores that part.
I feel that when the hemispheres of the brain are not separated, there is a cooperating whole in the form of an observing consciousness. Via the amygdala and cerebellum there is an interaction with the various brain areas that also have mutual connections. Reporting on observations is then an automatic unconscious process that can be disrupted and split into isolated processes. The conscious reflection on those processes is therefore disturbed, but still from one self and one consciousness.
Back in the 70's I was working on the psychiatric floor of a hospital. A gentleman there was blind but was convinced he could see. He would tell you what he thought you looked like and what you were wearing.
was he ever right?
@@sgcarney Never.
I can't really diagnose him with that info, but he might have Anton syndrome. Usually I think it's seen in patients who have a Posterior cerebral artery stroke. It can be seen in other pathologies too ofcourse.
@@saianvesh3753 That's exactly right. Guys from UBC hospital used to study him. He was something of a hospital celebrity at the time.
When I listen to new music I listen to the instruments, then pick out the words later. I had a dream one night that was very confusing, a week or so later I decided to listen to a song I had been listening too off and on and listen to the lyrics this time, to my shock the lyrics described the dream I had. Somewhere in my head some part of my brain was listening to the lyrics even though I personally was not, and it manifested into a dream.
That still blows my mind.
Similar thing happened to me but with language learning. In one of my dreams I was speaking in English which is not my native language and in a sentence I couldn’t seem to find the right word to fill the gap and suddenly I chose a word I’ve never heard before and I was confused like how do I know this one? When I woke up I even checked and it was the right way to say it in that sentence.
Our brain has a strange way of picking up, processing and learning things sub-conciously
same thing happens when you hear your alarm sometimes you have a dream related to the sound but then you slowly wake up and the alarm starts to sound more clearly
What was the song?
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My mother used to train horses. When she wanted to show them something like a whip or whatever she was trying to get them to see or understand, she would first show/demonstrate it to one side of their face and then the other. The idea was that both hemispheres needed to be directly shown. I dont know if any of that was true but my mom seemed to have great success with that method.
An amazing saying... "We are all wierd, just some of us are better at hiding it than others". Believed when my Dad taugh me "You learn from every conversation you have." Better understand now TY
I was seeking somethin about brain plasticity and stumble upon this video. Thank you. Subbed.
Welcome aboard!
This video makes me indescribably happy. You say you’ve left a part of your brain with me. I realized that’s something people do a while ago. We’re all just frankensteins of different past experiences and people, and it makes me happy to hear someone else talk about it, I guess. I’ve felt alone with this feeling for a while, this makes me feel a little better. Thanks.
I don't know man I'm sure there's something science will have to say about this however somebody could be trying to possess you mold your consciousness with theirs pull your strings I feel that way but I've seen it firsthand many times
@@lucasking5376 people have been trying to get in your head your whole life, though. Acknowledging it now doesn’t make a difference. Stuff like advertisements, and snakeoil salesmen. In the same way evil people try and leave seeds of themselves in other people for their own benefit, good people can change you for the better. That’s why it’s important who you associate with. If you want to be better, associate with better people.
Thats odd
Assuming you think Frankenstein monster, what an "amazing" way to think about yourself. This is how people get sad and fucked up in life, when they think about themselves as "frankenstein monster". Please stop this. It does not matter how weirdly our consciousness works or if we are connected. You are ok and you have potential to be great and experience amazing things. Atleast you could be if you plant in your head good thoughts like this, instead of sh!t like "we are freaks of nature".
I would not say Frankensteins. But even before anything like modern neuroscience, these thoughts were discussed by philosophy. Start with Locke in the 17th century, but even earlier the ideas were explored. As for the being many selves, this also was an idea before such evidence, although most talked about layers rather than side by side selves.
One day in residency I was asked to consult on a neurosurgical patient. This patient had an entire hemisphere removed, either due to trauma or malignancy, I cannot remember. I remember looking at their MRI beforehand, and knew to expect an L-shaped skull. I imagined that I would find a patient who could not communicate, who could not really do anything at all. And I was shocked when I discovered the patient was entirely intact, with the exception of the contralateral motor functions. They spoke articulately, and this surprised me immensely. It was not until much later, when I learned about these callosectomy patients, that what I was seeing was normal. Had you spoken with the patient over the phone or text or email, you would have no idea that they lacked anything.
There was another case like this, the strange case of Phineas Gage (cir 1849) who was being researched as a medical anamoly for at Harvard surgical school since he lost a whole half of his brain and survived and remained functional until his death but changed slowly in personality
Maybe the person removed a hemisphere when he was young and the brain is better at adjusting to these missing pieces while developing 0:06
I am now projecting my consciousness into you. Stage one of world domination has begun
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neuroplasticity was it?
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For many years I was asking exactly these questions and finally, hear are the ideas that I could relate to.
I had brain damage seven years ago i was blind for a week and i couldn't recognize my family remember who i was or name things that i did know before like a cup a spoon things you learn as a kid
But months after that I heard on tv that the way your brain works can be reshape as you learn a new language so i did that by learning English and the translations of the words in Spanish i got my brain to find new ways to connect my memories and the knowledge i already had also was cool to learn a new language
Years after i found that even may way of being my self changed a lot usually i was really depressed and overstressed but now i feel more calm about everything and more creative
I love painting again and even if no one watch it i love creating new things
I hope that help someone too maybe there is a happier you there inside waiting
This is such a pleasure to listen to Scott. I've been fascinated by stories of people waking up after brain injuries or comas with entirely new accents and personality changes. This led to a better understanding of how that could occur.
My father in law is a doctor and he has a story about a patient of his who woke up from a head injury and started speaking only lakota (which he'd learned in childhood) but forgot English entirely.
Consciousness has nothing to do with the brain nor the brain to the the mind. It is a completely separate thing ‐ or unthing.
@@COVID...19would you call consciousness? Awareness?
@@COVID...19trust me bro?
@@COVID...19 in your case it has to do with a cow's ass
As someone with a PhD in the neuropsychology of musical performance, I know that learning to play a musical instrument engages all parts of the brain. I describe it by comparing the brain to a house with many rooms, each of which has an intercom to all the others. Trained instrumental musicians acquire a changed brain, with a fatter corpus collosum. I would explain to my sight singing students that the reason that singing a melody using the correct solfeggio syllables is difficult at first is because the syllables (words) are processed in the left temporal lobe whereas the melody is in the right temporal lobe. Using them together requires growing new connections across the corpus collosum. The advantage is that one gets a better, more integrated brain as a result, not only for music but for however one wants to use one's brain. The best academic students in the school of the arts where I taught were the instrumental music majors. Musicians tend to recover better from brain injuries as a result. Think of Gabby Giffords, who suffered damage to her left hemisphere but has relearned how to talk (!). She is a hornist. My question is how splitting the brain would affect a musician, at least in the short run.
As a life long percussionist I concur. I’ve often been asked by casual observers how I am able to manage performing a number of different physical movements, rhythmic structures and time signatures simultaneously. In my limited view, I can only surmise that it’s no more than muscle memory, something achieved through years of repetitious, mechanistic training. However, if I stop and consider that muscle contractions are the end product of signals transmitted by the brain, the shear complexity of all these separate movements being executed in an organized manner without any conscious intervention on my part (I don’t have to “think” about what I need my feet and arms and wrists to do in order to create a particular rhythmic pattern), it’s really a phenomenon of brain plasticity as opposed to the musculature system.
One of the hardest things I ever did, was listen to a channel feed in one ear.
Plus listen to another in the other ear.
Plus listen another over head in both ears.
Oh & have to respond to each, while still keeping track of the other channels.
Plus run a activity monitor in a war zone.
Type responses into the monitor.
All them at the same time.
Much harder than playing a piano and singing.
After 3 hours I was exhausted and had to be relieved. Because at least one task had to go. But all of it was needed to make the right decision.
Then I got to do something easy. Reading, sorting, selecting, routing of classified traffic and registering messages and preparing a briefing to the CO.
The 2 briefings were the easiest part of the day
12 hours a day, in 6 hour shifts.
But did have a minor stroke in the close to the right ear, recently. That effects my balance. Closing my eyes while standing is difficult.
Plus the constant 15,000 cycle sound in the right ear in quiet rooms is loud and annoying.
Just having the TV or radio on, helps a lot.
Don't just love the AI that helps with spelling and grammar.
That’s very interesting!
Just found out that hands can interfere with each other and try to do the same task differently. Like there’s 2 different people, and each person is tied to a different hand. I’m extremely interested in seeing someone with this condition play the guitar for example.
Also you said that melody is in right hemisphere, wouldn’t that mean that these people will have problems with intonation?
When there are kids who aren't learning music their parents should have to spend their weekends picking up garbage by the freeway. As a little kid I loved hearing Bach on the woodwinds. Adults are the "No" people. "We know you really don't want to do that". Grammar is interesting when you learn foreign languages but learning English grammar year after year is lightyears beyond boring. Only one time were we taught any music and I remember "Hot Cross Buns" which is not music but a very annoying noise you can make with a musical instrument. Just running your fingers across a guitar or piano makes a nice sound. Must be great to be in a school where you get to learn things instead of an institution ran by drop outs with education degrees instead of at least average accomplished people with a-little passion.
Not sure if what I'm about to describe has anything to do with the concept that's discussed in this video, but I figure I'll share it anyway. A lot of the time when I find myself not thinking about very much at all, I find myself playing a recently-thought-about song in my head. I happen to play an instrument, and there are many songs such that if I play just the audio in my head then I inevitably end up imagining the feeling of my fingers playing the song, as well as imagining the shape that my fingers would make in order to play that part of the song. It is an automatic strong habit; I cannot fully stop myself from doing it no matter how hard I try. I'm sure this has come about from me practicing the songs so much. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I can't stop myself. Let's say for instance that someone hums a melody that I know how to play on my instrument (guitar). Upon hearing them hum the melody, I will automatically think about the shape that my fingers would make when playing that melody they're humming. Where the "multiple consciousnesses in one brain" sort of idea comes in is basically this: I can try very hard to minimize the extent to which I'm consciously aware of the finger shapes in my head. That is, I can try very hard to push those thoughts into the peripheral, subconscious part of my cognition. No matter how hard I try, though, there is always a part of my brain that is incessantly dedicated to always imagining the finger shapes associated with a melody. It makes perfect sense to me that cognition can be multifaceted in this way, where the brain dedicates itself to multiple different types of tasks simultaneously with varying levels of conscious awareness about those peripheral brain tasks.
Wow, hello my lord.
I really enjoy dealing with people like you, when I hear you explain I hear myself.
I've heard people say to me a few times, even on the phone: "Stay out of my head."
So they had already had to deal with me, but the fact that they cannot process what I caused in their heads is not something I can control, they do, but if they cannot give it a place while they think about it , and call me with words like "Stay out of my head"? Indeed, it shows that I am connected to them and they are connected to me, just as you are connected to me and I am connected to you, by watching your video and hearing what you say, I am connected to you by it even though you know not me, but I will take yours with me for the rest of my life to all the other people I meet on my path during the rest of my life.
You will only get to know me, and take me along on your journey, after you have read this.
You can contact me afterwards, I hope with the message that I am welcome in your head, you are welcome in mine.
Fascinating. I always viewed consciousness as a bunch of feedback loops of the brain trying understand the context for everything. It's feedback loops upon feedback loops, as are the majority of systems within the body, be it hormonal, immunological, blood pressure etc.
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It makes sense to me (non neurologically trained) that we’d have multiple “people” within our mind simultaneously. When we experience massive amounts of trauma our brain is our most essential survival trait is our brain and it must compensate.
The conclusion that there must be multiple personalities or consciousness from this experiment seems like a massive stretch. The brain keeps working as it would but information isn't being passed to both sides. That's literally all they've proven, not that these people now had two consciousness
@@adamdunne6645 in a corpus callosotomy, the hemispheres still have lesser alternative connections through the brainstem and spinal cord, but yeah you're right.
@@adamdunne6645 I can tell that you think very shallowly. The information not passing to both sides can be used to infer other things, and at least bring them into discussion. And no one said anything about multiple conciousness' and thats how i know you didn't understand the video. The idea was that conciousness was a combination of all of these parts of the brain. He said multiple "you's", not multiple personalities or multiple conciousnesses like you seemed to think he said. Please, open up your mind and look at everything from a different point of view because right now you seem very skeptical about something even though it was merely a thoery on this guys behalf involving his book.
@@o2Hayden Your opening sentence kills the rest of your comment. If you're gonna be a prick, don't expect anybody to read the rest of your comment.
I love finding more people involved in neuroscience who have a deep comprehension of the nature of consciousness, that it is all that there is, as many experientially discovered through fine tuning their own potential of perception since ages past. This is the future, where science meets spirituality and we really start to tap into our collective potential, which may result in freedom from suffering.
well said
Yes, though it is unfortunate that the root of human conscious awareness and its connections to the neuro-chemical processes within our brain are still scarcely understood. We still simply don’t understand enough about life and its relationship with our perception of reality. Science and spirituality have never necessarily been different things, both act as a system by which we use to understand our universe more clearly. The belief that we are achieving a higher state of enlightenment in our day and age is an unfortunately a common and often false notion throughout history. Remain humble, scientists and philosophers should never assume that almost anything is an absolute. The nature of consciousness is fiercely debated in the scientific community and is still remaining as one the greatest enigmas of our time.
My son was born missing his corpus callosum. This is definitely a need to watch video!
Woah! Kim Peek is the only person I've ever heard of that was born this way! Amazing. I hope all is well with both of you!
It would be interesting to know how this all connects up with the kind of comparmentalisation that goes on in cases of Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Great question...its the 1st thing I thought of when he mentioned the hundred personalities competing for ownership of the body. 👏👍🏻
Have a DID diagnosis and obviously was thinking the same thing while watching this.
As someone with DID, this was one of my initial thoughts when watching this vid. In my experience, what i perceive to be my conscious self is an amalgamation of infinite beings that are all different but all me. My DID has led me to become more spiritual and allowed me to understand reality in different aspects simultaneously due to the fact that I'm perceiving reality by all my inner beings at once.
Me 2. We have five senses and what we see or hear we can write but we cannot always describe it except we write it first, then your brain owns it. I can write thoughts and feelings but I cannot do the same verbally. And some people do the opposite, they can draw the things they read or hear. It would be nice or beat to know how to learn strategically to exercise and grow both or all sides of the brain symmetrically unlike some weight lifting people that develop high definition muscles in the upper half of the body but not so much the inferior half!
I was thinking the same thing. does DID show what happens when these different conciseness do not agree often
I had a head injury in 2017 and lost my identity for quite some time. I'd been a lifelong journaler, but found i drew pictures now instead of writing sentences... linear structure was awkward for me, and geometric shapes and spatial relationships felt more representative of my thoughts than sentences did. Math (something i'd never studied) worked better than words. All the languages i spoke got jumbled up, i became intermittently ambidextrous and had issues remembering to do things like wear clothes or eat/drink... i still struggle with aspects of identity, but i feel a little comforted by this video, knowing maybe that unified self/fixed personality is a false construct and it's just that everybody else is doing it wrong. ;)
Not to give you hope or anything but I'd say try your hand at memory techniques, I'd recommend going with Andrew Metivier. The key to starting memory techniques is to actually start and start with memorizing genuinely useful and practical information
You might find artistic motion easier to communicate your being than language. If you use language to navigate artistic motions then you may be able to describe with more precision. For instance, the tempo, rhythms, intonations (pitches), timbres, intensities etc. of a voice tell you many contexts to a message. This uses musical motions to extend the language palette.
I had three aneurysms and found the maths underlying musical structure to be a nice analogy of movement. Maybe give it a go?
Others aren't doing it wrong...only differently. Wrong and right are also an illusion.
I was a working musician as a kid outside New Orleans actually--after my injury, i didn't remember that for about a year/18mos, but i do access that outlet (tho usually without knowing i've done it... i find recordings later on my computer that have convinced me it's still happening) :)
It feels like i've developed Executive Dysfunction or something, so when it comes to using words specifically to formulate my concrete thoughts, i am sometimes incapable of basic, simple linear structure@@tavisashton-bell7216
This reflects what I experience as a dyslexic. I think in images and pictures. I am good with maps but poor with directions. Automated motor functions like touch typing or playing a musical instrument dont automate. Very good at reading diagrams and constructing complex structures. I think in 3-D but cannot add or multiply. Very slow reade. The list is long. Short term memory just evaporates ....
It also sheds a light how lying came to be.
If there are multiple of us in each part of the brain it explains why it's so easy to contradict ourselves whether consciously or not.
0:48 yes i knew it because i can see my unconscious mind, thier are so many patterns which sometimes fight together.
By the way it's great that you have understood such depth of human psychology
When I was a teen, I was suffering from occasional strong seizures, similar or equivalent in my opinion to a brief but intense grand-mal type. I was put through some tests but there was never any conclusive diagnosis, and ultimately I was slapped with "Micromotor Seizures". Eventually as i got older, my severe malnutrition was self corrected and they went away, although sometimes if I experience enough stress, I'll have a kind of confusion episode where I become disoriented and have to take a moment to figure out what I'm doing and what's going on. Otherwise, I'm all better.
BUT, back then, I would get upset, get a sudden sense of "dread" or "doom" or "bad thing coming", a strange phantom sense of "hot wiring" somewhere inside me, and BOOM, my thoughts would disintegrate into a flurry of random bits and pieces of thought and I'd experience a strong muscular jerk as if I'd been electrocuted. Afterward, I'd be very confused about where I was and what I'd been doing, and I'd have to take a moment to re-orient. Also, very tired. This was the norm for several of these episodes, all save one, which was also one of the last I ever experienced:
I was about 20 years old at this time. I had been working on a BASIC computer program and was deeply frustrated about a specific failure I couldn't seem to reason my way around, and was pretty much at the yell and slam phase, lol. I remember thinking "Uh oh..." as a strong sense of burning wiring invaded my mind and a little confusion took over my thoughts. BAM. Without any sense of change, or strangeness, or confusion of any kind, I was about 6 years old and dressed for winter cold weather, heavy coat and boots and mittens and all that. It wasn't winter, though, it was fall. My older brother and sister were with me, also dressed for the cold. The sky was typical northern US fall gray, and the trees were mostly bare, but a strong blustery breeze was blowing fallen leaves all around us. It was a fun time outside with my brother and sister, playing in the front yard in the driveway.
And then I was back at the computer confused as hell and very rattled, shaky and tired. The experience had only lasted seconds but was absolutely, perfectly real. While "there" in the supposed past, I had no memory what so ever of my adult or even teen life. I was just a kid doing kid things. Now back in the present I was struggling to understand everything, shaken from a hard seizure and given an experience that has left me with deep questions about the nature of reality ever since. I have asked my brother and sister if they remember anything like the place and event I described from that experience, and they don't have anything to offer me. They say it doesn't line up with the house my family lived in before the one I remember as a child, because I was too young, just a toddler. So, I'm afraid I'll never know just exactly what that was. But, it happened, and felt every bit as real as any other part of my life thus far, all some crazy, cosmic gift from a catastrophe of neurological chaos. A gift wrapped in question marks and existential mystery.
Some notes:
The underlying cause of my seizures, I believe to have been caused by severe malnutrition. My parents turned a blind eye as I caved into consuming ridiculous amounts of sugar in instant iced tea and little else. I was severely underweight and severely malnutrified. D- for parenting and not just for that. I was also being badly physically and mentally bullied at school, something else they turned a blind eye to.
The experience of "flurry of random thoughts" during the episodes is something I've found very curious. Picture the inner chatter of your mind, if you're one of the people that has that. Now picture experiencing weeks worth of that chatter but only in split second bits and pieces, in completely random order, at a rate of dozens or more a second. I tend to think of it as "thoughts in a blender" and for good reason. There is no sense of self during this, only the blur of thought fragments. Broken moments in time flying by too fast for me to exist.
@@monad_tcp IDKWTF you're talking about. But I will suggest this: Try merging BASIC with machine code and then interfacing it with external, hand made electronic hardware, circa 1988. That may be why you found it easier than what I was doing. Get your ass out of that "Hello World" rut and take it places that matter.
I just wanted to say that I experienced the same flashback-esque thing, and it's comforting to know I'm not crazy lol.
I was 15 years old and getting chewed out by my parents, all of a sudden everything was just wrong. I honestly can't describe it, the closest I can get is that everything just shut down. I kinda gasped out uh oh while I slid down the wall and my vision faded out.
Next thing I remember is being a farmer in a field, 26 years old with a wife, 2 daughters and a son. I could remember my entire life, I felt every sensation and emotion. And then I was sitting on the floor and weak, and so confused. I knew my real self right away but I still felt like that other life had been real and I spent months horribly depressed and grieving an entire family.
For years I kept looking out for my wife, just in case it was some insane fantasy romance plot but luckily the memories have faded. I don't remember their names or faces anymore, though I know they were all ginger except the boy who had my hair
@@panzeratom695 Omg thank you so much for sharing that. All these many many years since it happened to me and mostly I've just plain been 100% unwilling to discuss it with anyone because, you know how people are. They can't be content with just not believing you, many need to attack outright what they don't understand. Safer to hide it away, right? Spend an entire lifetime with incredible secrets ratting around in your head for having to live in a primitive world full of hate and fear.
Anyway, I digress. I find it utterly fascinating that yours is a flip of mine. Whereas mine could be a real childhood memory if only I could trace the past into some direction I'd forgotten long ago, yours is completely impossible to prove real, barring some leap in comprehension in consciousness and the nature of reality. You have no choice but to carry that around with you for life, and though time will fade it, it will never leave you 100%. The only peace you may ever find with it is within deep self exploration or some kind of great revelation of mind or in the final passing from this world. Who knows. But one thing I can tell you is that reality, especially in the context of personal experience, is VASTLY more complex than any of us realize, and the full depth of experience is far beyond comprehension.
You're very lucky to have seen past the shell that keeps us rooted so strongly in the moment, even though it may feel deeply unfair and hurtful. I know that feeling from a couple of dreams I had of another reality where I was just beginning to start a full and committed life with someone very special. When I woke up the pain was horrid, and I knew I'd never see her again. Took a long time to forget and move on. Took a long time to care about moving on, to be honest, that's how hurtful that was. Call it just a dream, whatever, but that was a whole life out there, and she was "the one', someone I'd built something real and important with. The pain was real enough for me.
A suggestion for you, something I've been doing for a long time now. As you drift off to sleep at night, close your eyes and drift outward into the blackness. Feel yourself moving forward into it, like it's a place. It will take you places. Your experience makes me think you're already a little bit "loose" in your binding to this reality. You can use that, put it to work for you. The harder you push, and the more you explore, the more it will bring you. Push hard enough and your experiences will pile up and your questions about what is possible will become endless.
Good luck, my friend. May your path take you to extraordinary places. ♥
Woow 😮 how did you fix your malnutrition? I think I'm on similar lines as I'm extremely thin, so I wanted to know how did your malnutrition, by food or by multivitamins? If multivitamins, in which form? Pls 🙏
@@titfortatt-regionalist This one day I was doing my usual iced tea with WAY too much sugar in it and it just suddenly hit me - this is why I'm having problems. The massive sugar intake was no doubt the most of it, but once I decided to cut back, I had to face the reality of replacing it with actual food. At that time I was also having massive psychological problems from a long history of physical and mental abuse, so I still thought that I was God's Mistake, "The Stain on the World", and so I really wasn't concerned with existing. In fact, I thought if I died, everyone would be happier. Wasn't until I started to develop rage over the abuse that I started to think in any way that my health mattered, so I wasted yet more years just not trying. Anyone that tried to care for me was rewarded with a kind of "What's wrong with you?" attitude, and I was still punishing myself any way possible WHILE being increasingly angry about people punishing me. Wouldn't make sense unless you've been there. After several years I simply started eating and drinking better, and caring about living instead of hating myself so much. I believe it was those things that made the most difference. I gained so much weight that I started to look buff, and I would stare at myself in the mirror like "Who are you?" Took forever to get used to that, like, nearly 20 years. Also, I had moved to a nice place on a farm in the country, which did me wonders, and my then gf was freakishly into supplements of all kinds. Still, I won't tell you it was the vities and such that did it. It wasn't. It was a change in self, in mind, and in spirit. I grew some self worth. When you do that, you heal thyself, despite all the wounds.
This concept seems so difficult to imagine until you have a psychedelic experience or deeply embrace a meditation practice.
Man you are so right.
As I was watching the video it reminded me of my first mushroom experience, where I found myself observing "myself" from the outside.
Consciousness is really something else
This is why when you bring about a novel concept to intellectually institutionalized people who propagate other people’s theories and concepts.
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Simulation? Or
Interesting I see this comment as I think I’m preparing myself to take my first trip and”heal” so to speak…
The brain is an incredible device. It is possible to restructure your brain to some degree, to make changes to it. Aside from the obvious things like changes in diet or physical activity (like the amount of exercise), you can consciously change your brain. It doesn't happen overnight. It takes time, and consistency. We don't necessarily think of it as changing our brain when we do it. When we change our way of looking at things, our perspective, or break bad habits or establish good ones, we are changing our brains.
I strongly relate. I live with autism, bipolar and cPTSD, which creates a context of experience. It is defined by my knowledge, convictions, and passions. But the sum of that projects forward. That constitutes hope. Connecting the former to the latter is meaning, driving the engine of being human...in my opinion. A node of consciousness, not of self but of being in context.
Typing after a split brain surgery must be a pain in the ass
"Universe becoming aware of itself"... beautiful... I already reached the point where I agreed with consciousness/identity ideas before I found your channel, but this statement is so beautiful.
I have a job that allows me to listen to audio books while I work as long as I keep one ear free. I spent a lot of time learning Spanish with my left ear, and it was difficult to translate when I started using my right ear on the same audio book.
this is something I've inherently known for years yet couldn't figure out why I had this knowledge...now I do!!! I have a brain injury and have never been the same since, but have always been grateful for the things it taught me.
I thought about the "one but divided" consciousness theory, but it's dead impossible to explain. Or just it seemed so. You've managed, I'm so glad to hear more people talk about it!
It's a great way to learn empathy when you realize you may be living the life of the person you are arguing with.
It's more evidence on the mountain of evidence that proves free will is nothing more than incredible illusion; yet something our brains cook up without our consent.
Neuroscience with FMRI scans and other tests, is starting to show that "consciousness" is an illusion. There is no one "you", it's really a bunch of separate processes that get formed into the illusion of a whole. And it doesn't even happen in real-time, your brain edits your recent memory to insert the illusion! So, you do a thing, without really "intending" to. Then the brain edits your memory to put "I intend to do this thing" just before you actually did it.
You still have intent, or at least, it seems you do, but it doesn't work nearly as simply as it seems to.
Even without MRI there's tricks scientists can use. And people with severe brain injuries, localised to one or two areas, who survived, have provided all sorts of examples, sometimes shocking.
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@@Ardeactlol well if there's another "me" inside of my mind, then he's a total a-hole for insulting me all the time and bringing me down, whichever me that is....
I've actually long had this theory that this is what personality of self is, is not just a single you, and recognizing the microbiology of the subject made it sound natural where I also figured that people remembered things in different places in the brain based on order of exposure and understanding and then drawing relativity from there.
This is some compelling stuff. Great video! Kudos
My mom had both seizures and multiple personality disorder. I grew up with that as my normal. So I have always referenced my brain as separate from my self. Can have arguments with myself with good responses of opposing ideas. Kinda nice I think most people can do that just some people dont.
Fun fact: some people seem to lack the ability to have an internal monologue. As strange as it sounds the ability to talk to yourself in your head might not be universal.
MPD/DID is EXCEEDINGLY/excessively rare as far as verified cases go. Enter suspicion here.
@@MattH-wg7ou?
@@MattH-wg7ouNot THAT rare. A quick Google says 1.5% have DID but lets say it's ene 10th if that. That mean 1200 of the viewers of this video has DID. Or one 100th 120. Secondly a friend of mine have DID due to a mother with Munchausen by Proxy (that is even less common), and it's very interesting to experience. It cripples her life but my bet is that is what kept her alive.
Ive got an internal constant code processor of useless info. I turn words into numbers and then add all the digits to see the words "total" then i ascribe some kind of significance to the number whatever it is. I see my birthday constantly and backward as well. Or i subtract things you normally dont. Like i was born 5 10 84. Subtract 15 from 84 u got 69. So i got a birth total number of 69. Pretty funny. Also nuerotic as hell but ive learned to deal w it.
This reminds me of how some scientists suggest octopuses' have "distributed brains" that all work together. It'll be interesting to see what we learn about the mechanics, for them and us (and all things with brains).
I'm curious what would happen if you linked multiple brains together? Would it create a new single consciousness?
I can't help but think of the Sybil system from Psychopass
Love it. Great video. Going to read your book now
This instantly makes me think of DID. The disconnection between parts of the brain, which then allows for the initiation of diverted consciousnesses. In one case it's a doctor's physical interruption, while the other is a survival strategy when full connection to all of the brain's experiences would compromise the 'ecosystems' willingness to continue living. Consciousness is one of the bigger reasons I wanted to dive into neurobiology, but the specialization was in China and I felt too unstable to chance leaving my security system behind.
i thought this too!
Now the question is how much the personalities of the two halves equal to each other. It's really fascinating and I hope there will be more research about this!
Hello to your sense of “self”, I have experienced this thought (probably) for the first time, thank you. Let’s explore!
Fantastic content
I just began working on a project that deals with similar subject matter of understanding concepts in relation with our human body & the constraints of thought in the 3rd dimension
I look forward to reading your book & viewing more videos. Concis, profound & well delivered, thanks for the food for thought my friend! Best regards- JED
Thanks Jed! Happy you are here.
My extensive meditation practice has also made me realize this in my own experience. But lately I've had some new insights into the nature of consciousness and its even more baffling. When you descend the layers of perception, removing more and more filters, at some point perception ceases to exist and its all just vibrations and pulses, all the senses start collapsing into the same kind of vibrations and the whole universe is just vibrating into existence along with consciousness. In fact one could say that the universe is made out of consciousness.
Not sure what to make of this, I guess its a thing now
That is a fact
Wtf do you mean with vibrations and pulses? Why don't you describe your experience in your own words instead of using this dubious vibrations-talk?
@@hellucination9905 Well then let me illustrate my point using this very sentence you're reading: Notice the screen these words are appearing on, the shape and color of the letters. Notice how you are aware of these shapes and colors. Notice the voice in your head, that appears as you read these words. Maybe also notice the image of yourself reading, as you hear them. Now notice that you are also aware of all of these things. See that you are aware of everything you percieve. Of these shapes and colors, the voice in your mind that is making sounds from the letters. You could say that everything you percieve is infused with awareness.
But what is awareness? Start focusing on the shared quality of all these perceptions, this awakeness. What is it made of? Do not think about it, just look, feel. Do not focus on the content of experience, focus on the experience of awakeness.
That sounds amazing. I do a section of my meditation where I ask ‘who perceives?’ I’ve noticed I cannot hear a sound without identifying it. This makes me feel I don’t have access to my actual perceptions but only after they’ve been processed by some non conscious part of me.
The Bible says the universe was made by the word, so it must be sound vibrations.
I remember one time on a acid trip feeling a sense of an "Ununified" self.
I could hear all of the trillions of cells in my body firing off and talking to each other.
It was like I had a whole galaxy full of stars cheering me on and rooting for our collective benefit.
This video makes me feel like that experience wasn't so illusory as it seemed at the time.
It's almost like the sensation of schizophrenia where you start to disassociate and experience the other voices as not your own but instead I was hyper aware that all of the voices were indeed coming from what I perceived to be "Me"
Single Unified consciousness is an illusion 🤔
Trinity: the mystery of THREE being ONE, and One being Three...
I had a similar experience. You feel EVERY part of your body. I remember even feeling the blood pumping through my veins. It was such a beautiful feeling. I think our bodies naturally “silence” all of these voices to help us focus on surviving.
My (many) lsd experiences always made me think i was connecting all my "selves" with all the "selves" of everything else with consciousness, so yes in the singular, unified consciousness seems an illusion, but grand scheme wise, it seems we all link consciously at some higher level than science yet understands, I always referred to it as 6th or 7th senses, 6th being aware of others feelings like they are your own, and 7th being that sense of being many at once, yet still single. (if that made sense to you awesome, cause most ppl i say things like this to look at me as a nut or a demon, when in reality if we knew we were ALL from the same "whole consciousness" at some level, who would ever hurt anyone intentionally?)
@BenSmith-jw8zy I felt you bro 🎯
Same in shroms, just don't know what's past, future, present, memories, taste, sound, colors, etc. Strange as fuck, every external and internal stimuli change everything at the point that my conscious understand that I died but don't understand why I'm still existing.
I've always thought about how people in our dreams are reflections of ourselves. I feel like dreams are important to forming a sense of self, in a way we are sorting out the variety of personality discovered in life, we tend to take some of other peoples personalities with us as social baggage, whether someone is rude to you, or kind instead our interactions good or bad come with us into the dream, your reactions within the dream to these can give you inspiration on how to deal with it. even completely change your perspective depending on how you resonate with it.
Just found your channel.
Fascinating stuff, although I have to point out it's obvious you are spending most of your time looking at a video monitor of yourself (most likely just the self-view of your camera), rather than looking into the actual aperture of the camera.
The difference is that you don't look like you are looking at us, the viewers.
This simple change will up your game and will get you closer to being a top quality production.
Yeah, I have new teleprompter that I've put together since then. I wasn't looking at my self-view, I was looking at a moving script
Good video. Thanks. I recall many years ago seeing a two headed snake in an aquarium. One head had full control the body. Whenever the snake moved the head not in control would drag it’s open mouth in the sand. This disturbed me. I couldn’t help but relate to the snake. That led me on a journey of realizing I was composed of multiple selves, one in conscious control , others occasionally acting out their frustration with that self by various self- sabotaging actions.
I've thought about the possibility of a personality being composed of a "committee" of people in our minds for a long time. But your comment and analogy with the snake really put that idea into words better than I ever managed. It really explains the absurdity of our self-contradictory and self- destructive actions beautifully.
As someone with dissociative identity disorder this video just blew our mind
this is how someone explained DID to me a couple years ago, and it made much more sense. Everyone has multiple parts of themselves, and they merge together when you get older. But for some people who go through major trauma, it doesn’t. And the brain stays disconnected from each other, all be it some overlap.
I just randomed into this vid, but being married to a 5 part system for 22 years, DID was the first thing I thought of.🙂
REALLY recommend reading Peter Watts' sci-fi work, especially the firefall series, it dives so very well into the neuroscience, and it's where I read about this phenomenon for the first time.
This was a really interesting and educational video. Went down my lil rabbit hole of curiosities and found this and my face was like this a lot 😮 😂 the brain and how it works is so fascinating. Thanks for the video!!!❤
Great video. Experiments on human consciousness is always so fascinating. Makes me understand a lot more about how split personality disorder may be working. And also thoughts on why people talk to themselves when in severe isolation. It's like we have multiple people in our brains just trying to make sense of all the information it intakes through sight, touch, taste, smell, and hearing. It's so, so complex.
The multiple personalities is one of the easiest ways to come to grips with why humans are different from AI. The biggest difference between us and AI is that we can ask ourselves questions before we come to any conclusions about answers. However, when we say 'ask ourselves', what we don't usually realize is that we are actually communicating with different parts/personalities within ourselves with each and every interaction that we make. If someone created an AI that was really 2 AI that would confirm and deny different questions within itself before it gave any answer, it would be incredibly close to the way a human thinks.
exactly
Interesting POV
@@TheMaliciousZephyr This isn't about the AI developing consciousness on it's own. It's about us figuring out how to make an AI conscious in the same way a person is.
Aren't they already making AI systems that are multiple specialist AI working together?
Multiple personalities to me is undigested learned exterior language that has not been personalized. Like lines you borrow from actora in movies that one uses as own or like a library of books not yet read except the title and waiting to be entered in the brains domain or like other peoples brain plagiarism taking over your own brain.
“I don't have to agree with what I think”
Was what a football forward Carlos Caszely said a few years ago, and many laughed at him.
Apparently his position was completely legitimate.
Dear Scott, it is a pleasure to see your videos, I send you a hug from CHILE 🧠
I was literally about to flip to the next video in my queue as predicted and am so happy that I didn’t.
After studying these split brain cases in college, I came to realize that the sense of self is indeed an illusion. I believe that the self is an ever evolving pattern of information, we are not human beings but rather human becomings. Every moment a distinctly different you emerges defined by unique psychological and physiological states.
I’ve had many debates with friends discussing the fundamental question “who am I?” , it’s quite refreshing and validating to see someone else express these same ideas so eloquently in this video.
I’m very interested in reading your book, where may I find it?
If everything and everyone is part of self can anything truly be called self? There simply is what is. Phenomena
My feeling is that consciousness or identity is unnecessary therefore likely to be an illusion. As long as I believe I am real, I am real.
This to me is somewhat substantiated because we make up entire identity characteristics of others merely upon their appearance. If we without evidence believe our constructs about others, and everyone is constructing these identities for others, then would we not have our self identity confirmed without ever actually having to have one. If nature can perform this short-hand then consciousness is redundant and thus without evolutionary necessity.
You're asking all the right questions!
...and maybe, as well as being individual human-becomings, (becoming what exactly...?) we are also separate parts of a single life-form called the human race. Every new evolutionary state of each individual is at the same time a small part of the process of an evolving whole...that we may call earth. Or the universe. Or the multiverse. Or god.
Whatever you said in this comment, sire, is indicative of you moving in the right direction, if that's what you found from experience it's all the better...you just have to get the thrust from an appropriate master...trust me it's all you need right now
Just when I thought I had my existential crises resolved, I find this. Great, just great.
Same here.
Regardless of what we find, realize, are, become... we’re alright. It’s okay to know, to un-know, repeat.
It doesn't change anything.
Dude be struggling with existential crisis smh. First world problems be like lol
I was literally just thinking about this today. I always thought this was just a wild theory in my head 😮
Anything to deflect. I wish the next person would've asked the same question because the "answer" wasn't an answer.
- Vladimir Vladimirovich, how much is two times two?
- I'll be brief. You know, just the other day I was at the Russian Academy
of Sciences, had a conversation with many scientists, including young ones, by the way,
very competent guys. So we discussed, among other things, this
problem, talked about the current economic situation in the country; they
also told me about their plans for the future. Of course, the problem of demand was their main concern; no less acute was the issue of
mortgage loans, but I can assure you, all these problems are solvable and we
will direct all efforts to solve them in the near future. This also applies to the topic raised in your question.
As someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), this video really resonated with me. There are similarities in the compartmentalization described in this video with DID. In my experience, what i perceive to be my conscious self is an amalgamation of infinite beings that are all different but all me. My DID has led me to become more spiritual and allowed me to understand reality in different aspects simultaneously due to the fact that I'm perceiving reality by all my inner beings at once.
Check or make intellectual boundaries, filter your thoughts, don’t navigate too far into the unknown without a life line or leaving behind bread crumbs. Disassociation takes place when we go beyond the mark and are blinded by too much light. Like my brothers, the Jews, they departed from the Old Testament cannon into strange pseudosciences and mysticism trying to comprehend God and creation, but when God came to them, they could not recognize him and rejected him. They went beyond the established bounds of religion and are expecting a Messiah that came already. And they are too stubborn to look back and recognize the backsliding point.
Same
fascinating.
Also same.
Been reading about this the last couple of months. Currently studying a lot about trauma therapy and trauma. The degree to which traumatic experiences can shape the development of the brain is astonishing and scary at the same time.
Awesome. Great breakdown for people who have a hard time understanding and accepting these concepts and newer theories of life
I find this sort of thing very interesting. I have found that for myself if I am having a phone conversation of a technical nature I MUST listen only with my left ear. But if the conversation is emotional I MUST listen with my right ear. Left ear I have no feelings and everything is logic. right ear is all feelings and rational thought is almost non-existent. When working in a tech support role I absolutely had to have my headset on my left ear or else I couldn't follow what people were telling me. If I am having a conversation with my daughters I have to have the headset on the right ear otherwise I cannot maintain that emotional connection I need with them. This has helped in some cases where a conversation becomes too emotional and I need to severe the connection so I just swap ears and all emotion is gone and now I can just think and use logic.
Around my 22th birthday i had an interesting experience. I hadn't slept much since i had university friends, high school friends and my music band friends and saw each of them one day following the other. I worked and studied at that time and didn't skip any of it. Meaning that you can imagine how little sleep I got. It was on Friday night after university that i met with my band friends in the garage of one of them. We were smoking weed and drinking. I was at one point lost in my mind thinking for what i can remember and one of my friends said are you alright? you look pale. And i couldn't answer i vanished. But it was very distinct, i remember seeing black and having no control of my body but i could hear them clearly and i found the situation funny in my inner dialogue. they slapped me and i assume they did it lightly because with the hits, for a split second i could feel like i was on the edge of awakening but couldn't do it. they carried me to a bed, they say they accidently hit my head with a shelve but i don't remember any of it or had any pain when i awoke. Which happened the next morning in my friends bed. I slept for like 4 to 6 hours. I remembered nothing the next morning from the point they picked me up from the chair. I talked to them and told them the whole experience and that i could hear and feel the slaps. They told me they worried at first but that i smiled a little every time they slapped me. It was a funny experience at the time. I reflected a lot on that night since then and i don't know if the cause was the lack of sleep, the weed mixed with alcohol or the most probable one the combination of all of that. But i learned a lot and made my mind about how death would feel (absolutely nothing). And how consciousness is the collective interaction and communication of our body. The central where everything reports. I remember comparing it to a company and thinking that you are the CEO of your body and have different departments that you need to keep an eye on. For example the hearth is controlled by its own department and you hope it will report when something is going wrong because if it doesn't give signs before a problem you are fkd. You can imagine the rest of the many departments. A good CEO would invest in his company and see it grow. Would keep an eye on the problems that are reported to try to solve them. etc. It lead to good habits. I'm 31 now for context.
5:20 As a software engineer I find this interesting, as it is the exact same behavior those large language model AI’s like ChatGPT display when confronted with information they don’t have: inventing a story to explain the discrepancy instead of realizing that something isn’t right.
So one ai model acts as a separate half of brain?
So ai is currently working like one half of a human brain? And has yet to become fully "sentient"
@@user-pe8yi9uh7dI think of it more of like a separate piece than a full half.
Our brains do a lot of stuff. We have dedicated parts which handle stuff like recognizing facial expressions or just processing eyesight. Having ChatGPT is likely a lot like splitting a brain in the sense that it's just one piece that would normally have many many other pieces alongside it. But, I think it's a very interesting idea to look at the similarities. I wonder what would happen if you just cobbled together a bunch of different kinds of AI models and tried to wire them similarly to humans. Hard to say, but the future is both terrifying and exciting
@@kneesnap1041 interestingly enough, some people already succesfully used 2 AIs together, for example to teach one AI how to drive in trackmania a second ai was used to scan monitor in-game and transfer decoded monitor data to first ai, who is responsible for actions
(hope this was clear enough)
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Very glad to hear another plug for unity consciousness!! You're a brother from another mother! Looking forward to reading your book and watching more of your videos!
This sounds like it could line up with that theory that consciousness exists in the universe outside of us (like light or gravity). And that our brain in just a receptor for it (like a computer connecting to the internet). The internet is not created in our personal computer, but it is used by it in a unique way (our individual minds/identities).
I always thought that was interesting to think about. And it has some theological implications about what happens after life too.
I love this. I am a fan and I subscribe. Wow....rich content.
As a 20 year victim of various Transient Global Amnesia experiences I can attest to the fact that when only one of our normal brain functions is altered or impaired, your concept of “self” is drastically changed
What is it like? How have you had to adapt to that in your everyday life?
I have a form of schizophrenia in where I suffer from sudden bursts of intense emotion completely without context or warning, the current working theory is that I have a " misconection " between the two halves of my brain
@@mks-onefor me It's like having memories but feeling like they're not your own, people you once knew feeling like strangers that you've never met but you still remember them somehow
Let's be real however that having brain injury, psychological disorder doesn't in fact mean anyone has 2 (or more) seperate fully consient beings inside of them fighting for control like this video claims.
People may have a disturbed selse of self and reality. Brain functions may conflict but it is an impairment of one single conscious being.
Only people with 2 full consiousnesses in 1 body are siamese twins.
We should not sensationalize, misinterpret these things further confusing and disturbing vulnerable people.
Let alone affirming the schizophrenic in their delusions, disorder.
Drawing a hammer and describing a handsaw doesn't mean contain are 2 seperate consiousnesses. It shows a disconnect in your brain function.
Just like how cutting off your testicles, penis and dressing like a girl doesn't make you a girl.
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As a person who was diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, part of my healing process had been learning to openly communicate with my parts inside, sharing information, and parts of me no longer needing to take credit for the roles we play. Instead, it’s understanding that all of it is me as a whole. And working together with the best parts of all of me to be present as much as possible.
Your analysis hits me pretty hard in the heart. My favorite joke about my disorder is that there is no I in team but six in Dissociative Identity Disorder 😂 joked aside, the truth is that while there is no I in team, the alphabet isn’t complete without an I. Each piece plays a fundamental role and has played fundamental roles in my survival and my continued growth. The reality is, I’m not me without all of my parts.
Now I can’t even begin to imagine what it would be like to have my corpus callosum severed or go back to how things used to be. Life would be so different. And I feel like even though I could adapt too, it still would be so hard to miss out on that internal communication. The world would feel so quiet.
Do you have an overly aggressive part thats also very self confident? Like a type 8 in the enneagram, if it helps
I don’t have to comment bc we are all connected on a electrical level! If you went barefooted at any moment in time we are all connected!
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If you think a severed brain would make that worse, try high voltage. It turns out cooked brain matter can result in physical compartmentalization. Long story short, I manage executive decisions, language/wit, and base needs/emotions as three seperate parallel "threads" now. Like you say, attempting to synchronize as one "self" helps greatly, but I still find myself having conflicting impulses.
But the part of you that experiences. Is it one? And all these parts like thought, the body, the senses, can they be said to be tools of your (which can break) or would it be more accutate to say that you, (meaning the I who experince) is just another of the above mentioned things?
Great video... What would be truly interesting, is to have a split brain person involved in a quantum experiment to see if both independent halves of the brain constitute an observer, in that... do they both cause the collapse of the wave into a particle, when exposed to to the experiment. There are a lot of questions about an experiment like this that might have not only interesting answers, but possibly implications about both mind and the world it inhabits.
I'll be honest, you taking a break on the subject to plug your book probably shook me out of having an existential breakdown and mental gridlock.
That said your video is a very interesting listen and is informative to stuff about the brain I never even considered!
In which case, it sounds like the break was useful!