Profits vs peace: War and imperialism
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- We are often told that this endless and futile destruction is an inescapable part of man’s inhumanity to man. But is war really hardwired into human nature, or is it rather an inevitable product of the social system in which we live?
In this talk from last year’s Revolution Festival, Josh Holroyd discusses the nature of capitalism today, how it necessarily leads to imperialist domination and conflict between the major powers, and how an end to war might be achieved, once and for all.
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Comrade you read my mind ✊
Such snazzy thumbnails 👏
Brilliant 👏 thank you
Very good.
Ponzi scheme bots desperately adversiting on a revolutionary marxist lead-off because it has ''profit'' in the title is really funny somehow.
Great explanation of imperialism, comrade!
Was Ghengis Khan an example of Imperialism?
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@@smalbeaste Sorry, when was this? None of which you've written, makes any sense. Which debate?
@@smalbeaste But it's not myself who was deleting your comments: it's impossible for any of us users to do this, if we're not debating on our own channel. It's CZcams which often does this, and I have no idea why. I've had it so much myself. 😞
I had to play this one at .75, good vid though
Great video!!
The title "profits vs peace" is misleading: it suggests that they are both opposing concepts.
@@lochnessmunster1189 they are opposing concepts. capitalism (production for profit) cannot deliver a world in peace
@@sidtheragali1447 You'll have to explain how production for profit can't deliver a world in peace. Also, explain how any system can possibly exist, which doesn't produce for profit.
@@lochnessmunster1189 Capitalism, it it's development comes to conquer the world. When the world is already divided up, one company can only expand at the cost of another. Since the burgeois state is the capitalists state, they will seek to protect and advance the interests of their national companies, which drives them into conflict with other states. War is only the continuation of politics by other means, so when diplomacy and economic policies are no longer enough to secure the interests of the states national burgeoisie, they will enter into war. This is the fundamental reason behind both world wars. You also see this today. The destruction after ww2 allowed ample room to expand production and so on, known as the post war boom. There was room to grow the pie, so the world didn't need to be redivided to get a gain. Now that is over, and the capitalists has successfully delayed the inevitable economic crisis. This, however, produces political crisis, which is why world tension is on the rise, with various protectionist measures and so on.
The second question is quite easy. It seems like your conception of profit is anything which is a gain in any capacity. We marxists view profit solely as return on investment and appropriation of the working class' surplus labor. A socialist economy would be producing to raise the standard of living and solve social issues, and not to extract surplus labor. Of course, some surplus labor is needed to be able to maintain equipment and invest so to speak in various stuff. But this wouldn't be profit.
@@lochnessmunster1189mass industrialized production for use values rather than for the purpose of extraction of surplus value
14:00 looking at his father's activities, this isn't too far from the truth
Btw, I've one question: If (during the war) the workers overthrow their own government, it's good. But what can they do after such successfull revolution, when the enemy armies come into their land and won't hear their arguments, on the contrary the enemy armies go forward and are going to massacre the civilists and the (now) proletarian army not willing to fight?! That would end up with extreme atrocities and with the victory of one of the imperialist belligerent state. Isn't it a "revolution at costs of civilian atrocities"? The proletarian revolutions during wars can work only in the situtation, in which the proletarians of EVERY country at war will make revolution at the same time. Example of such case: The Commune in Paris 1870. The Commune was successfull during the Prussian-French war, but later the (by the Prussians defeated) army came back to Paris and massacred the Communards - with permission of victorious Prussians.
2nd: I live in Central Europe and I think - the war on Ukraine is the war of Russian capitalists - oligarchs against "Atlatnic" / US-Euro-capitalists-oligarchs. The Russian leader Putin and his oligarchic friends won't give a f*ck about the blood spilled by Russian soldiers for Ukrainian resources. And the Atlantic leaders and their oligarchic friends won't give a f*ck about the blood spilled by Ukrainian soldiers for the same resources.
They are all the same bitches. So don't try to paint Putin's victory in pink colours...
The IMT has never called for Putin's victory.. our section in Russia is opposing the war just as we are in the west. We share your view of this being an imperialist proxy war, and we lend no support to either imperialist power.
Western empires invasions of Russian
1812. France
1853 France England
1914 Germany
1918 US England France Japan, etc.
10+?20+?) other capitalists
1941.Germany
1989 (US NATO aided USSR partial self
implosion)
2014. (US NATO fomented murderous coup.started proxy war + kill.14,000
civilians +)
Some NE Europeans may have issues +
any + all Russians, but people need to understand
Russian gov + peoples views & concerns
in objective (not always neutral) under
standing.
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