Can Foreigners Wear Kimono? (Japanese Opinion Interview)
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I showed random Japanese people Katy Perry's kimono performance and asked what they think. I explained them some of the criticisms that Katy Perry got (for example. culture appropriation) and asked them if they think it's OK for foreigners to wear Japanese kimono. - Zábava
I was expecting more comments from people who are against Katy Perry's performance. Maybe they really are a minority and not even a vocal one... Hmm.
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Yuta they're called loud minority as opposed to silent majority.
+belinskii In my opinion Asian-Americans and Asians in East Asia are two different races.
+Mirror Knight how old are you?!? do you even know what a race is?
+belinskii what are you even talking about? Why do we ASIAN Americans find OUR OWN CULTURES sexist? How about the fact that we find YOU sexist because YOU are culturally appropriating OUR CULTURE.
Sure, there was "outrage" about sushi being served in a college cafeteria because it was cultural appropriation... Which is another level of stupid. There's nothing wrong with fusion. I think the only time it's really insulting is when another culture is making popular art and $$$ with symbols of oppression......such as the Nazi swastika for example. Such "artistic inspiration" actually happens a lot.
Honestly I think cultural appropriation is a very American concept. Most people outside America do not give a shit unless it is done in a deregatory manner.
I'm from India and here, we don't think it is bad at all for white women to wear the sari, the bindi etc. In fact, we take great pride in the fact that people in the west appreciate our culture.
This
Because that's the right way to feel about other people engaging in your culture. It's a whole another matter if it's done to offend or insult, that's obviously bad, but being european myself I love when people from other countries engage in the culture of my country, wear the traditional dresses and such... I don't understand how can that be viewed as bad...
Yes. It is.
Well said!
+x y My husband is from India...it has been my experience that Indians are more likely to try convincing me to try on a sari than to tell me I can't wear it.
So this is how it goes.
Katy Perry: **does kimono performance**
West: omg, this is so racist against Japanese people, stop it.
Japan: I don't think so.... I like when people appreciate our culture.
West: sHUT UP JAPAN! YOU'RE TOO INNOCENT TO SEE THE HARM!
Liberals: omg, this is so racist against Japanese people, stop it.*
Only in America will a bunch of white liberals defend a group of people who are completely unbothered. Talk about self-righteousness.
Not only in America. That type of people are all over Germany.
バイエルン人 What's ironic is those types of people are actually making race relations worse by telling others they can't appreciate another culture. If someone is interested enough in Japanese culture to wear a kimono, you would think that's a GOOD thing.
These people don't exist in Germany, shut the fuck up. Only America is like this.
"Indian curry is different from Japanese curry, but they're both curry"
Listen to the words of this wise sage
All he said was wisdom
I know it can be funny but damn that was a simple yet elegant analogy
As a person who loves curry, I want to know what the Japanese do with their curry. It certainly looks good but I do not know of any places that serve Japanese curry.
@@mickware5289 Try searching for any japanese restuarant in ur area. hope u get to taste it soon.
@@mickware5289 the packaged curry packs that looks like iced cubes are good. It can be seen on most supermarkets. Just make sure to buy the Japanese made ones from the international section. I think Japan mastered the art of instant foods and packed curry is not an exception
Hello, im from Germany. We do not have that term "cultural appropriation" and whenever someone from America tries to explain it to me i just hear nonesense. We people in the EU do not take offense if people wear our traditional clothing, we actually are proud of our culture and would love if people in the whole earth would wear our clothing or eat our food or drink our drinks. Americans have no say in this on what people can wear and what not, actually, we feel offended when Americans try to police people and tell others what to wear because it just means that they don't want us to share the beauty of our culture and withhold it from others. If you try to be offended for a whole group, you are actually talking down at us which is disrespectful. Wear Kimono, Jukata, Dirndl, Lederhosen etc. etc. etc. aslong as you respect the culture. In short: we don't fucking care what you wear, your body your choice right? (:
Im welsh and my sister believes in it, its so fucking annoying
It's the karens and sjw's. They always feel the need to control people
Ich hätte es nicht perfekter ausgeprägt . Und es nervt wenn Leute es kritisieren , wenn die Leute eine andere Kultur schön finden oder diese leben möchten dann lasst die doch machen, solange die Leute die Kultur respektieren dann ist doch gut
Preach! (I'm from nearby)
I would love to wear traditional german clothing and go to a Oktoberfest 😂
They hated it because the umbrellas could be weapons... Seems legit
I cracked up at that line, I got frickin' stitches. That was so appropriately timed!
The innocence of the classic japanese ... it's adorable
they tend to say so many innocent things like this and it really makes me realize how shitty and prejudiced american culture is
baby boy Obama went out of his way to give the world the impression that America is shitty. Rest assured the "sane" people are not and finally have a voice!!
The Japanese are weird
Kimono doesn't really have any strong cultural/religion significance. It's just a name for old clothes we used to wear. You don't have to be a specific ethnicity to wear kimono, just like T-shirts and jeans. It would have been a different question if it was something sacred, though.
I feel like wearing a jimbei, kimono or yukata is like when Americans wear cashmere sweaters, rolled up denim and cleated pants. Just an older style, no big deal.
+Christophe Lagaillarde What does that seriously have to do about anything? When a person of another culture expresses their opinion about something, because it does not align with your own personal opinion, they must be lying? Seriously, dude. They expressed their thoughts. They express differently. They came to their own conclusions through thinking about an issue that is just not something common.
"Cultural Appropriation" is a very, very Amero-centric and geocentric thing, and doesn't hold weight with many of the people it claims to "protect". Japanese people do not see it as a bad thing, it's the cultural exchange. They eat hamburgers, adapt their own idea of American trends. For many Japanese, seeing a wildly world famous super star incorporate Japanese culture in to her act is exciting and something to be proud of.
Christophe, you're assuming that culture is static, but it isn't. "The recent fashion style" is a natural evolution of kimono culture, as each generation adapts older ideas and practices in a way that they find useful. You can't just pick a random date in the past where people were wearing kimono and freeze the norms of that time as the only acceptable ones. Young people often feel out of touch with their traditional culture, and refusing to allow them to put their own stamp on their traditions is part of the problem, not the solution.
Thank you for clearing that up.
Kimonos aren't important at all to SJWs, they're just a vehicle to attack people they don't like, i.e. straight white guys. "Oh you're appropriating Japanese culture! Just another way you're a terrible person." Same thing with dreadlocks, any foreign food, cracking down on non-Indian yoga teachers, and so on.
"We imitate people to try to better ourselves"
I was so stunned by this. We are constantly fed this narrative that we should be ourselves, that we should be original, but there is no debate about what constitutes a good person, what's better or what's worse. We criticize people when they copy others, but we don't realize that's a necessary part of learning. Originality has no merit by itself, and squaring people into ethnic cultures only stiffens learning and mutual understanding.
Yep. There have been enormous amounts of cultural exchange. Limiting that is limiting ourselves.
And I thought I was the only one who hated "just be yourself" because come on, that's kinda ass about refusing change
Originality doesn't actually exist, it is pointless to try to be original, try instead to be relatable, that works far better, I actually thing the whole *be yourself* thing is kinda weird, who else can I be then myself?
When he said that, it reminded me reading about the advent of MMA vs traditional martial arts, that the point of MMA is to take the best parts of other styles and mix them to be the best fighter you can. Otherwise, you're only doing a disservice to yourself.
"We're all copying someone. If nobody ever imitated anyone, we'd all be running around naked grunting at each other." -- Judy Funnie
As someone who struggles to embrace other cultures because I fear being seen as culturally insensitive, I found this enlightening. Thank you very much.
"culturally insensitive" is someone who lacks a culture and want others to lack it too
Same
Culturally Illiterate maybe...but you're working on educating yourself. If you were that "insensitive", you wouldn't care to better yourself... and you obviously do care. Your struggle is REAL...but so is your solution to it. All the best, to you.
This reminds me of that time when Americans wanted to ban Speedy Gonzales because they thought it was an offensive stereotype, but actually turned out Mexicans loved that character because he represented them.
As a Mexican, I can confirm.
We love Speedy González. I mean, he's badass, how could I dislike him?
Really glad to hear he's popular in Mexico. I loved him as a kid (in from the UK).
SJW: We need more diversity!
**Speedy Gonzalez exists**
Also SJW: Ban that cartoon of a Mexican mouse, it's too Mexican!
Yeah he is awesome.
Speaking of wich, i remember once i was told that at a soccer game when the mexican hymn was supposed to play instead it played him "yipa yipa arriba !!!" Or some other thing of his lines or something like that. And someome got seriously reprimanded. Lol.
Granted, the hymns do deserve respect but the reason of the reprimand to them was because of some shit like this stereotypes-thingy-is-offensive.
But I was laughing my ass out
Honestly, my mom grew up with that as a nickname from her older siblings cause she was the fastest of them lol
I hate this whole “culture appropriation” movement. I appreciate when a foreigner likes my culture, I feel really happy about it. Unless you’re being disrespectful, there’s nothing wrong about liking and incorporating other cultures in your daily life. Unfortunately, some countries like USA or Brazil take this whole movement too seriously.
I agree 10000000%
I don’t get it either like I am an American Mexican and I am very Americanized and I am very aware of that so if I want to make an Americanized outfit based on Mexican culture I should be able to because that represents me as a person because I am not your traditional little Mexican girl so I don’t see the problem
OMG yes. Some brazilians are fucking nuts with this “cultural appropriation” thing, it really makes me sick. Almost feels like some of us want to be oppressed, for fuck’s sake. Too much time spent on twitter “canceling” others, people have no idea how toxic this social media has become just because some are so damn entitled with everything. They basically absorbed the American way of being super self-centered and they wanna talk about “cultural appropriation”, anyway, the hypocrisy.
I don't think Brazil takes that seriously, black americans, SJW, canadians, australians, new zealanders and scandinavians invented the whole SJW movement that's ruining our world, they see the world from their privileged point of view and they think they have the right to speak for other cultures or even entire countries.
Brazilians take seriously, like, crazy seriously. Some years ago a white girl who had cancer was attacked because she was wearing a headscarf. Everything is labeled as racism here!!
" If nobody criticised, I think that would mean that the performance had no impact. "
" Because we try to imitate and adopt to improve ourselves, we don't mind when somebody imitates somebody else. "
I need friends like them. :)
Same
Hear hear!
Why promote cultural exchange when everyone could be completely isolated and just stick with the culture they were born into? What's the worse that could happen, cultural stagnation and hostility towards the foreign?
You're spilling some tea here, chief
holy shit you put it into words
This it's such a good point!! I feel like this has happened a lot in America especially because everyone is different and we've divided ourselves so much that the whole "cultural melting pot" ideal has turned into an oil and water situation, nobody wants to get canceled so they dont let it happen and have demonised it.
@@naynaykillua3363 that's right, and all cultures learn with each other and give their twists to it. For example almost all foods have some sort of cultural exchanges, without the tomatoes from the americas and the pasta from Italy there would be no pizza!
thats usually how cultures die off
The media: nO yOu cAn NoT wEaR fOreIgN cLoTHes ThATs OffENSive
Foreign people: Hahaha clothes go floosh floosh
*Video game character wears a sombrero*
Americans: Das rAYCISt
Mexicans: oh wow neat
@@irrelevoiceso true. I'm Mexican and I feel really freaking happy when I see a character with a sombrero or poncho.
ヘックスビン They look baller so idk why anyone would get mad at someone wearing them lol
@@greenteasensei6655 I remember when playing Red Dead Redemption 1, i just always strutted around in the poncho. I always thought they looked so cool.
I always encourage my foreign friends to wear traditional American camouflage from Duck Dynasty or dress in a ceremonial Ronald McDonald outfit.
Japanese people: "Cool!"
Twitter: "Wait, that's illegal--"
SJW: "You're cancelled"
Lmfaoooo
Twitter's fine as long as you stay the hell away from the political, sjw, and other related stuff on there.
@_s l e e p b e n_ not really, I've been on Twitter for a while and I've following channels more into rp, gaming, and anime, so it's not difficult to avoid political stuff, on Twitter. Not saying that you won't see something political once in a while but, it's easy to avoid political stuff on Twitter regardless. So just follow channels/groups that aren't political and you won't see a lot of political topics.
@@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494 You cant get away from that kind of stuff if you go on trending and even the celebrities I follow have to get into everything political.
I’m half Japanese myself, and when I see people celebrating Japanese culture I’m actually very excited
And, you ought to be; there's some pretty cool stuff there!
I remember when I was taking an art history class, and we were studying one piece called "La Japonaise" by Claude Monet, where it depicts a caucasian woman in a kimono; a museum in Boston had the painting on display and had a "kimono photo shoot" set up, where visitors could try on kimono and pose in front of the painting and get their pictures taken. Needless to say, people were instantly screaming "cultural appropriation".
Well when we get to that art piece, my (extremely white) professor starts going off about how "this and that is racist" and "this is how this and that is cultural appropriation" and encouraging the class to find things wrong with the painting and the kimono photo shoots. Well at the time it was big news so I had seen a few videos on the controversy, but most importantly I remember watching videos about how Japanese people themselves felt about it (I'm not 100% sure but I think one of them was one of your videos Yuta!), and the general consensus was they weren't offended at all! Pretty much the views expressed in this video were the overall opinions given on the controversy.
So I spoke up when the professor was looking for people's different takes on the matter and told her so, that the Japanese don't find anything wrong with it.
And she just looks at me and says "well, that's one way of looking at it" and she just kinda brushes me off and continued to rant about how it's cultural appropriation. Seriously??? 😧
You seem like a cool dude add me on discord
"they aren't thinking about how japanese people feel about it!!!!!1!!11!"
"japanese people don't care"
"I'M GOING TO IGNORE THAT BECAUSE IT MEANS I CAN'T TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO AND FEEL SUPERIOR TO THEM"
That college needs to hire better instructors.( I used to teach at a college.)
I think a lot of these cultural appropriation claims, especially in relation to Japanese culture by foreigners stems from a certain idealised love they have developed for Japan because of manga and anime. Consciously or unconsciously they idealise Japan. They think Japan is like a heavenly land whose culture they want to protect from filthy westerners.
I never understood the cultural appropriation argument. For the longest time, culture was something to be shared and celebrated, not reserved for only certain ethnicities. Heck, the word "appropriate" means to "take exclusive possession of", and no one is doing that!
Moreover, if a Japanese man were to dress as, say, a knight, would we be up in arms because that's specifically European culture? No.
it has to do with power imbalance, though. when a group imitates another group that they have abused and discriminated against it can seem exploitative and mocking. when a group imitates those in power it can seem to be an act of admiration...
It's post-colonial guilt and the consequent patronizing political correctness: "Oh the Japanese would be so offended to see you wearing that....you're not Japanese...how dare you!".... without ever asking a Japanese person what they actually think. The idea is that "smaller" cultures are so weak that they need protecting from "us", whereas as you can see from this video many Japanese people have a far more modern view of their own culture than most westerners do of their own. This doesn't fit the narrative of western domination so is ignored by many.
It's a great irony that the patronizing perspective is far more objectifying and offensive than just being interested in and playing with other culture's dress or manners.
Thank you! This is the kind of comment we need to see more on the Internet.
Because cultural sharing is not the same thing as cultural appropriation.
An example of cultural sharing would be when a Japanese person invites a foreigner to some sort of special occasion and asks them to wear a Kimono.
An example of cultural appropriation is when a foreigner decides to wear a kimono just because it looks cool and it will help her sell her album.
See the difference?
Cultural Sharing = giving/inviting
Cultural Appropriation = taking/stealing
only they said they were happy to see it? so if no one cares, what's the problem? who said you can't use things to sell an album?
"Because of the umbrellas ? They could be weapons"
This guy hahaha xD
Kagura and Kamui approved!
If I didn't know about SJW, I would be as clueless as they are.
That actually show that sometime, people who are primarly concern do not feel offended. If they were, japanese would just say it, so no need for supposed SJW
Hey, it worked for Zack in Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core
He beat the ever living crap out of some monsters on a beach in nothing but swim trunks.
In Some Umbrellas you could actually hide a blade inside. Like that weird douche from Bleach.
I seriously respect the guy who said that if we love a foreign version of something then we become interested in learning about its origin and the traditional version. Legend.
As an American living in Japan, I can say that literally every Japanese person I've met has simply found it amazing and wonderful when I've done something that embraces Japanese culture. Where I live, there is a festival where the locals (especially students) dress up as samurai and march in a big parade around town to celebrate the samurai history of the town. My wife and I were invited to dress up as samurai and march in the parade. Our presence was met with a large measure of surprise (it's a small-ish town and we're part of a very small handful of foreigners in the area), but also people were really excited to see us there celebrating with them. We were interviewed by the local news outlet, too.
And it goes both ways, as some Japanese people definitely embrace western culture. It's more prominent in large cities where foreign travelers are common, of course, however as an example there is a restaurant about an hour's bike ride from me that sells American style hamburgers. The proprietor has been to the US before, and lived there for a time. He brought back loads of memorabilia (mostly sports and car show related stuff) and set it up in his shop. The guy serves up a rather tasty burger.
All this being said, I'm sure there are some Japanese that do not like foreigners getting involved in the culture in such ways. These people may be old-fashioned or even prejudiced. I haven't personally met any, though. At least not anybody who would admit it. The most "negative" reaction I've seen is just general surprise that a foreigner would even be in a small town doing such things.
Now I'm wondering where you are. Back in 2002 I was an exchange student in Japan and did exactly that: a parade dressed as a samurai haha! Fun times :)
@@DominiqueNoel0 I live in the Shimonoseki area of Yamaguchi Prefecture. Where were you? :)
@@ForeverUnknowing Aichi-ken! Toyokawa (but I can't remember which town the festival was in haha, I think it was close by)
@@DominiqueNoel0 Nice! I've never been to Aichi-ken, but would love to visit. Sadly, a lot of our "travel around Japan" plans got put in hold once coronavirus hit here. Thankfully Yamaguchi hasn't had many cases.
In all fairness, it's wonderful that, as an American you express such openness of mind in making your observation of Japanese culture. Immersion in a culture really helps to dispell any doubts / questions about it.
Plus, it doesn't hurt that you live in Japan too! Lol.Good for you!
This is a message to the SJW’s from a Japanese man
We feel the exact opposite
We were not offended
We were not considering it racist
We are instead feel praised
We are instead feel honored
We do not care what they wear
Stop over reacting
It's the way they live. They can't live without identifying as a victim and searching and shouting victimization everywhere to justify their false virtue.
@@Winfrid14 Absolutely
This came to my recommendation because of the recent Ghost of Tsushima issues. It's been highly acclaimed, to the chagrin of the SJWs.
@@Winfrid14 exactly. It's such entitled behavior as well.
They WANT to be offended and they CHOOSE to be offended because they lack something in their lives.
While my relatives in my motherland are just trying to survive
@@lesteryaytrippy7282 yo Ghost of Tsushima is 🔥🔥
And here we were freaking out about cultural appropriation and Japan's just like omg chill
Well.. the one thing to keep in mind is that Japan has not experienced how the west has treated and treats Japanese and Asian culture while my counterparts and I do. So the lived experience and history is different.
Japan never lost their cultural identity to outsiders. If the situation had been different and people had spent decades living a second-class status under colonialism like other countries had, they might have a different feeling about this sort of thing.
Japanese media also appropriates stuff they don't understand /all the time/, just look at trends in anime like EVA:NG ; "We added Christain imagery because it looked cool".
My problem with performances like Katy Perry's has more to do with continuing the "orientalism" crap Asian Americans have to live with in the States since they are the minority, unlike Japanese people in Japan. They don't have this false image getting beaten into them every day since they have more authentic images in their own media competing against the garbage western media churns out.
Allison Walker as a Japanese American, I am in no way offended by any of this tbh. Like I don't see how liberal white people are trying to be offended for us like it makes no sense. No Japanese person is so sensitive as to where they're going to get offended at someone else's choice of clothing. If anything I've only met other Japanese people that are happy that their culture is starting to spread but that's pretty much it. Like no one cares, it's not that deep.
Seriously? You 100% look like a fake account, so I'm gonna take your word with a grain of salt! Thanks!
Allison Walker honey I've had this account for years. I'm not gonna put effort in it when all I use it for is to favorite videos. But sure, go be offended for other people when they're not even offended themselves. It only makes your cause look worse.
It's fun to think how USA, the country who actually doesn't have a culture on his own, (no representative or typical food, clothing, music, etc.) is always fighting about cultural appropriation.
Like literally, they are a society made of a bunch of other cultures.
Pretty ironic if you ask me.
What is also astonishing is they don't seem to realize just how much of a British colony they are. The whole society is based on British society, from the language they use, to the government. They even use the old imperial units of measurement like miles, quarts, yards, etc. Plus, their flag is based on the UK flag - red, white, and blue.
Unlike most countries that were taken over by Britain, white Americans are primarily of British descent, meaning that their culture is just British at its core, mixed with a bunch of other things. Even traditional “American” garb aka the powdered wig and ruffle-sleeved shirt was also used in Britain. If we want to be traditionally and uniquely American, let’s just perform rituals of throwing boxes of tea into lakes while singing “god bless America” and saying the ye olden swear word of “fie”. There you go, america. Go be traditional.
Well there isn't any "pure" culture following that logic. You could see American culture as an amalgamation or a bringing together of all these different cultures.
@@mister.punknow6639 American culture is basically modified British culture.
That's a lie, our culture is G U N S
As an Brazilian, i feel the same way when japanese bands play samba or bossa-nova. Im proud of my heritage, and it makes me really happy when foreigners adapt and perform our culture in a respectfull, meaningfull manner. Cultures can, need and should coexist, and im happy to live in a world where i can learn from another culture at the same time that another learns from Mine.
It seems every time Westerners take a liking and adopt Japanese culture and get criticized for it over here, Japanese people feel perfectly fine with it, and sometimes even feel honored by it. It says a lot how fucking ridiculous the West is getting. Great video.
And I'd like to point out Japanese culture probably has the highest respect and reverence in the world of any culture outside our own countries (here in Sweden where we hate ourselves, probably higher). I don't know of any culture yhat random people from the West know so much stuff about and have so much interest of as with the Japanese one, so definitely not seen as inferior by most people.
I totally agree as an American. I enjoy learning about all cultures of course. I am totally fascinated by Japanese history and the language and ideals. I like Norway too though. It may be because Japanese culture is so unique compared to ours. I am not a weeaboo I do respect what I have come from. I feel that those things are totally separate in my own brain. I think some are a bit ignorant if they say they can only appreciate their own nationality. I mean of course if they are disrespectful about it that is not right to me either. I just feel like here in the USA people are making up things to be offended about or offended for stuff they know nothing about. It may be because I am 37 and the generation currently is so divided and I would really enjoy being able to just appreciate something with out my own countrymen saying because I am white I can't understand anything. I recently had 3 16 year old boys get offended cause I said I did not enjoy watching in my own room by myself as well, Yaoi anime with emphasis on the sexual part of the relationship. ( Yaoi Two males in love stories). I am still so confused at how what I don't watch for entertainment is offensive. It is just so insane. I am a very empathetic person who works so very hard not to insult or hurt people but geez. I was saying how one of my kinda life goals, that I would love to finish my 4 year degree and be able to teach or possibly something else in Japan and live there to experience the culture and get better with my Japanese and possibly even do my best to make a positive impact in some way. I got told I would never ever be accepted by anyone there no matter what and that I would be disgusting to them. I am working very hard on my health And would like to lose oh 20 to maybe 30 lbs, possibly get back into triathlons again. So I am far from a whale.... It just really can bust my bubble at times. Sorry for the rambling.
Michelle Brovey No worries about the rambling, I enjoyed reading it. Most people only give shit to America, but I am of the opinion modern democracy owe more to America than Greece, the supposed "cradle of democracy". Most of the world owe a lot to America in fact, more good than bad I would claim. The New Deal stuff was really awesome and the current election seems to be a shit show but really if you look after slavery and before the Vietnam war, a lot of really terrific stuff was done by Americans that sadly goes by unnoticed. People only seem to get reminded about the alliance of the Saud-family, Israel and the current and past trespasses around the world. It's not all fine and dandy, but man is it better than the British Empire or the prospect of a Putinist or "Neo-Dengist Chinese" imperialist rule. Good luck in Japan and on your health, I hope everything turns out well for you. :)
P.S. Yaoi, that's pretty kinky of you, haha, Not really unheard of for women to watch it, I assume it is because men in general are pretty stern about holding their feelings and I guess this is an outlet for people to see some emotional stuff. Don't judge yourself poorly because of it, whatever the reasoning is. :) Sorry about the praise of some stuff American, got a little political.
Yeah, and Kimono is like just one type of fashion in japan nowadays. Not many people care about the tradition or cultural aspects behind it.
Scheherazade LOL, if a person likes to wear a kimono, just because it's a good looking fuckinh garb or for any other fucking reason, let them. I guess you are one of these "anti-cultural appropriation" people. Use another fucking alias then, you're appropriating Persian culture. And if you are Iranian, I guess you need to quit saying "we" because I guess you're "not one of us". Ridiculous argument.
The example about curry is actually a genius hahaha
Kimi Hime totally agree. If you look more closely at Japanese cuisine it's actually a melting pot of cultures (pun half intended). There's a lot more than sushi.
She was here?
@@jofx4051 yep, she was here, but 3 years ago😂
YOU WAS FKIN HERE YO WTF
@@macurvello i believe even sushi first started in china too. i could be wrong though
I think it has to do with America's history of racism,exclusion and prejudice toward minorities, specifically within the media. Personally I don't care if people want to wear kimono. More joy to them. What I do mind is when people like Kim Kardashian wants to copyright the word Kimono and prevent everyone else from using it. It's when people use someone's culture in a derogatory manner it becomes offensive.
What?
@@mfmr200 why would you just say what?
Wasn't she just trying to copyright a brand and not the word itself? Like the H symbol for Honda is likely under copyright but nobody claims they're trying to copyright letters.
@@Corey1873 I think the main problem people have with the brand was that it had nothing to do with the kimono, so it was kinda insulting to just use the name seemingly only because it had "kim" in it. It was also just an underwear brand, which may seem a bit unfit for something as culturally important as the kimono. But honestly I think its more of a publicity stunt than anything, there was no way the marketing ppl didn't see the backlash coming.
Agreed.
"Can western people wear kimonos?"
Can japanese people wear jeans?
See, as long the clothing is not meant to have any kind of religious meaning and such you should wear whatever you want.
Imagine if the Japanese dressed their school girls in European Sailor uniforms! Wait...
Imagine if they dressed the boys in European Military Officer style uniforms! Oh...
Imagine if they took European Suits and formal dress and made it THEIR dress code for office workers! Errr...
Imagine if they have a whole sub-culture and industry around cute girls cosplaying 19th century European maids and serving people drinks and snacks! Hang on!!
Imagine they treated European languages like English and German as exotic and weird and casually threw them around the names of anime & manga characters, and used them as the names of special attacks as if they were magic! welll...
I think I'm gonna have to buy a Kimono to balance things out. Maybe I'll buy TWO kimono! That'll show 'em! ;)
And Latin too.
'Lux Aeterna!!!'
You do realize that americans didnt like that show and japanese had no problem with it.
***** I meant RC Master
Did you and the 96 people who liked your comment watch the entire video clip? Nobody says it's a bad thing. In fact, they said it's a good thing as culture will always evolve.
Did you and Keke Rosberg realize, that RC Masters comment isn't necessarily directed against japanese people, but rather against people in the west, who complain on behalf of them? Or maybe you took the last line of his comment serious, then I can't help you.
"If nobody criticised, I think that would mean the performance had no impact"
Give this man a goddamn medal. He understands the function of art in society.
It’s like the one time where I got a hold of a pretty dress that had a big resemblance to a Kimono and I was so happy and thought it was so pretty and was going to wear it to our school ball. But then one of my “friends” said “no you can’t do that! Do you have any idea how offensive it is for you to wear a Kimono?”
And then she sent me like 3 full pages on why I shouldn’t wear one, while all my other friends were happy for me.
Like sis would I care if someone wore Viking clothes or our traditional Swedish dress? No I wouldn’t. I’d be happy to see someone appreciating my culture!
Did you tell her it wasn't a Kimono?
Fernando Banda yep. She still said it was disrespectful because it had similarities
@@indicacarrots That's just disrespect. Why would it be cultural appropriation?
@@indicacarrots yeah I know. But it shouldn’t be offensive for me, a Swede to have a dress with few similarities to a Kimono to a ball right? Like you said, it does depend on the history. And these two countries don’t really have a history that’s that bad. And yes I really don’t like when people use stuff that actually is considered to be offensive because they think it looks cool. Like those head pieces with feathers (do excuse the name, I forgot what it’s called) like you said. So I totally get what you mean. But still in my case it really wouldn’t be offensive.
@@indicacarrots I'll be honest, I've heard a lot of conflicting opinions and definitions on it, many of which seem to deal with stuff that's not even offending (like wearing kimonos). What's the definition supposed to be?
To me, it seems like there is a big difference between temporarily being disrespectful, mocking or being insensitive to other cultures, and actually adapting their customs to your life (with or without regard to respect or their original meanings). The former I would call disrespect, the latter is what most reminds me about the word "appropriation" and doesn't have to be disrespectful (it's just cultural exchange).
‘Cultural Appropriation’ is just how culture works, honestly I think it’s good when various cultures take from each other and use specific parts, because that lowers the overall divide among humanity. I understand the fear that parts of culture can be lost, but spreading and mutating aspects of culture won’t necessarily destroy culture. Traditions and culture can be recorded and maintained especially with modern technology and computers, it’s more effective and practical to remember past generation’s culture down the line.
But hey, what do I know, I’m just a white American male with an anime girl pfp ʅ（◞‿◟）ʃ
ayy well said!
What a wise weeb! (Jokes aside, very well said!)
When I went to Japan the feeling I got was that if you make an effort to do something correctly...even if you are wrong, they will be respectful and help you. But if you go blowing in there like a Logan Paul...then you deserve all the glares and anger aimed at you.
I live here and can confirm this statement. Try and they help, be a Logan and you can gtfo
Micheal lol to be honest though I think that most people dislike Logan Paul at this point everywhere
"Logan Paul" should become a new swear word.
It is just about respect and admiration. If you do something out of disrespect, or some kind of feeling of superiority, then it is wrong. But as long as we base our actions on love apreciation, respect and so on, I don't see a problem in liking or "absorbing" foreing cultures. Every culture nowadays comes from the mix and interactions beteween different cultures. So to say that a culture should remain static or isolated is stupid
@@2009Xavo first, I never said it should be static or isolated. I merely said if you go to a country, respect their culture. What he had done was nothing about being respectful or admiring of anything.
I don't get it, why people are racist just by wearing cloths? It makes no sense. I'm from China, and every time I see people going to Chinese restaurant, using Chinese stuff, and wearing Chinese cloths, I feel honored cause my culture is appreciated by people from other countries. I don't see why that's not good, as long as you don't do offensive things like burning my national flag.
the same americans who get offended by everything are burning their own american flags.
Liz Lee So basically I am inherently racist because I was born in America. The problem with your rant is even when people put the past int the past and view their fellow American as nothing more then fellow Americans ... we are still being crusified for the actions of our for fathers.
According to people like you I must have some maferious reason to like something outside of the boring culture I grew up in.
Guess what I don't. There is a gigantic world out there filled with amazing people I haven't met yet. Amazing foods I haven't tasted yet. Amazing clothes I haven worn yet. Amazing music, games, ritual, etc... I have experience yet. All of which make the people amazing.
And I am sick and tired of being told I am a horrible person because I have added another's cultures recipes to my collection. Or I am wearing my hair in a mother culture style.
But what you failed to realize is that I got those recipes, clothing, and learned to do the hair style from those from that part of the world.
They are just excited to share with me as I am to share with them.
Do you know what happens when you break down barriers and talk with people different from you? You grow ... You learn...You realize you may have been ignorant or nieve... You may even discover a new hobby or interest that speaks to your very soul.
The very fact you just told this lovely person from China who said they feel honored that a non Chinese person enjoyed their culture, shouldn't , is discusting.
You basically said.... America has slaves and forced labor for Chinese a 100+ years ago , so you must be offended that an American today loves fried rice and moon cakes. ( which I absolutely love)
Do you see how stupid that is??
Harry Lin I am one one who loves Chinese cuisine... It is just too yummy ...
Harry Lin same here... when i see tourists coming to germany and wearing bavarian clothes i always feel happy. i dont get the problem some people have
@Harry Reading your comment made me feel so much better lol. I live in America, but I love Chinese culture. Got to visit once and it was one of the best times ever. I try to learn to draw some older characters, and sometimes try out the old art styles of various things (animals, mythology, etc.), it's a lot of fun. And the food too.. I could live off of duck. But because I live here, sometimes it feels uneasy, because if the social justice warriors caught me enjoying Chinese culture, they'd probably go apeshit. I never upload my art publicly for that reason. It's sad, I wish everyone could just love the countries they want to love, no matter their skin color. But SJW stands for 'no fun allowed' lol
The thing is no one in Modern Japan wears them anymore so the artisans that make them end up loosing money and the art form just fades away .. saying that this is cultural appropreation just makes this sad reality happen much quicker , because people will be afraid to support these artisans who make these kimono and keep the tradition alive and help support these artists . It isnt just happening with the Japanese kimono but also traditional Japanese food ect ....
Good pointer there!
Not strictly true. We saw more of the younger generation walking round in Kimono's and Yukata than older generation but there were still some. It's like any traditional clothing though, it soon becomes extinct. No one is walking round England in traditional Victorian clothing unless they're part of a group of people that are in a vintage fan club.
Exactly! That is their goal... to ultimately destroy cultures indirectly now.
So true. I live in U.S., and that is why since I love to cook Japanese food I source only traditional pantry items that are made in Japan.
@@steviegee8413 I can see it sticking around though. It's beautiful and iconic and most importantly only on special days. So I could see it being like a suit (But for holidays) Where it's only worn once in a while
They are so sweet and open, this makes me so happy.
To be fair, i'm scottish and have zero issue with any foreigners embracing the culture and wearing kilts.
Wearing a kimono in the united states as an American is like eating sushi or singing karaoke. We're obviously not going to do it right, but that doesn't make it racist. Every culture adopts aspects of other cultures, that's just how the world works, there's no problem with it, and no one really cares about "cultural purity" the way those critics did. Sure, it's bad to disrespect another culture, but using aspects of that culture is totally fine.
Well stated, bud. And those noonies seem to forget that it is human who create culture, not otherwise. If I had my own country I would damn sure have my own culture. As long as human exist, culture will, too.
Exactly, it's impossible to separate cultures from humans, and it's also impossible to stop humans from adopting aspects of other cultures they enjoy. It's just one of those things that happens.
+maxwell simon there's a thin line between appropriation and adoption and the sjws of this world confuse the two and assume that every bit of adoption they see is appropriation of some kind. it's like women who are so damaged that they can't tell the difference between a good father and an abusive husband.
maxwell simon You are right, Americans don't try to get you drunk in a Karaoke to make you spit how much you dislike your job and get you fired, Americans paint you black and shoot you directly calling it self defence.
Don't worry that there are very few cultures where rightiousness and law are still entirely related to culture and philosophy. It's easier to define individuals good rather than entire societies. Let's play a culture appropriation game: get JLPT 5 and you can eat sushi, 4 wear a kimono, 3 sing karaoke, 2 write to your wife a poem under a sakura tree and JLPT 1 finally either running like Naruto or if you can afford it wearing a Katana. And since I am from Italy remember pizza to pasta and pepperoni mamma mia pagliacci
It's like if a Japanese person wore a cowboy hat and that was suddenly sacrilegious to America and its standards or something.
My second day in Japan I went with some friends to a local mall. These two lovely ladies that ran a yukata shop pulled me in and insisted on dressing me up. They had just as much fun putting me in their traditional clothes as I had. There weren't many foreigner where I was visiting, so they were very excited to get me to participate in their culture. Americans overthink these concepts. I know I would be very happy to share my (non-North American) culture with others.
Thats so cool, if you don't mind me asking where in Japan did you visit?
@@nxetr that was in Sapporo, Hokkaido
I really want to go to a festival when I visit Japan and I’ve always dreamed of wearing a kimono and the sandals? The wooden ones, I’m not sure what they’re called. The entire outfit is stunning, and I really hope I can wear one when I visit. Appreciation and appropriation are two very different things.
@@kayleeanastasi3704 I had a chance to participate in a festival, thanks to my boss volunteering for one (I was in Japan for work at the time). I wore hakama (wide pants) and geta (wooden shoes) all day. gotta say, my feet were killing me after 6-7 hours walking and standing in those :) But it was a great experience. I remember Japanese people getting a real kick at seeing a foreigner in their traditional outfit. I probably have more photos of me on strangers' phones than I am comfortable thinking of.
@@MissTasseled so cool!! I’m a figure skater, so I’m used to the sore feet thing. Hopefully it’s not too bad!! ❤️
I was lucky enough to visit Japan many times. And each time I wore a yukata Japanese people were very pleased that I love their culture, they helped me dressing up, corrected my posture and attitude, took some pictures. We had great moments together ❤️
I think the whole cultural appropriation concept separates people even more, instead of uniting them
The japanese youth seem to be a lot more open to foreign culture than you would think. Very interesting video.
Cultural appropriation is an American concept, everyone else literally does not care. It is not racist in any way, its just admiration of different cultures, most people find it flattering and even if you mess up people will gladly help you do it correctly. I love sharing my culture and language with others. Americans are so easily offended by everything, and feel a need to be oppressed and discriminated against. Thank god I do not live there🥰
Edit: My definition of cultural appropriation is to use another groups culture for profit/ pass it off as their own. I don’t think this is right in any way, but as usual in America it quickly becomes unclear what is and what isn’t cultural appropriation or racism or sexism (and so on). It quickly goes very south and suddenly EVERYTHING is a problem! Istg you could find someone out there who thinks eating tacos or something like that is some how cultural appropriation 😂
Highkey lucky you dont. This place is a dumpster fire right now.
An American concept that unfortunately arrives in France and Europe. Americanization of countries is killing our culture.
Manon 05052910 yup! It’s super upsetting to hear friends speak like Americans, we don’t need their obsessions with race gender and sexuality here😞
this comment and video made me very happy/relieved actually. i adore Japanese culture, the language, traditions, food, architecture and i feel kimonos are one of the most beautiful things someone can wear. but the media has been so upset with cultural appropriation that i feel bad for wanting to wear a kimono sometimes because i'm white/british.
may i ask, what is your culture and language? those are my favourite things to learn about and i'd love to hear!
@@user-uy1my1oc1h Same! I have a couple of kimonos that I got from my grandma and I never know if I can wear them or not. She was german and liked learning about other cultures so she had lots of clothes from other places.
"If nobody criticized, I think that would mean the performance had no impact..." Highly superior mindset right there
Yeah honestly it's always kind of uncomfortable when someone's all about not wearing stuff from other cultures like bro just let them vibe as long as it's not meant with malice it's really not hurting much
I really hope Katy Perry saw this video. Not a fan of hers, but people really need to get over this "cultural appropriation" garbage.
Answer from 2020. They didn't. And it doesn't look like they will anytime soon.
I'm Indian, want I would love to see a foreigner wear a saree.
(I did see a French lady with blonde hair, wearing a saree and i loved it)
Same! I think saree's are really heckin cool, and look beautiful. Woman look beautiful in them. Have a wonderful day!
Yeah same. The only time I would be offended is if they were mocking our culture or wearing the clothes in a disrespectful way (like the one time I saw pics of women wearing a bindi with bikini)
I live in Brazil and there's an anual Indian festival we have here (Hosted by Indian people living here) which both me and my mother love to attend to. We love the Indian culture and I would love to wear saree for this festival, but I was always worried people would find that offensive in some way.. :o
@@Shionlira i think you should ask the indians who attend that festival if it is offensive or not, because here in in India, i think most people will appreciate it.
I wanna wear a saree one day💖
I feel the same as the guy at 5:59
If we look at cultures as something individual and strictly separated, then we also separate each other in our mind.
Of course we need to keep the unique aspects of every culture, but wouldn't it be so much nicer to share those aspects and learn from each other's cultures, without being offended over something that isn't even about you? (that's for example directed to Americans being offended over people wearing Kimonos)
Just don't make fun about a culture. It's as simple as that.
I am a Canadian girl and I’ve watched a few videos like this because I want to wear yukata or kimono and I just want to make sure that I wouldn’t be offending anyone and after watching a few different videos I’ve come to the conclusion that its not a bad thing and that I can do someday I hope to wear them!
Americans: omg that’s racist this is cultural appropriation!
Japanese: wow she looks good in it I’m glad Americans are
learning about our culture.
Like wtf ppl not everything is bad or insulting
Indeed. I certainly never complained about Japanese taking an interest to facets of Western culture, and am just as honored for them to do so.
Right.. These days people are freaking snowflakes and every move can be offensive in their eyes..
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I don’t think what happened to them was right but let me begin talking. They are not native just because they were here before us, their people just migrated here first. Also stuff from probably every culture is sexualized and just think of all the people who wear American stuff the wrong way. What I was saying is that we should let the people of that culture decide weather wearing something is wrong or not before we get offended and like you said we know nothing about it. I’m not sure what what someone wearing a Japanese dress has to do with the so called native Americans but there you go.
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Are you ok 🥱 I’m done talking to you
@st sm 🤣
This reminds me of this post i saw on tumblr. It was a pic of a little girl dressed in a kimono having a tea party (i forgot what exactly she was trying to do) and there were some people complaining that she is disrespecting the Japanese and that because she is white she shouldn't do this. But some people that were Japanese were saying this is a nice thing to see, a little girl at such a young age being interested in a culture that isn't her own.
Everything has to be so damn PC now a days to the point where its hard to do or say anything without people getting upset about it, even if they are the only ones getting upset about it just because they assume it would upset others. (tho the internet has been always like this but it seems like it has gotten worst)
That has nothing to do with being PC. That's just retards being butthurt.
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i guess im just dumb at terms then, i don't really pay much attentions to those kind of things, i just happen to come across them. so i dont really have the best knowledge about it. i mostly just understand it as being people getting butt hurt because of being "offended".
I don't feel it's necessary a PC thing but rather a sense of their culture being diluted and losing it's sort of "exclusivity" be it Asians, Caucasians, African, Hispanic, Indian, etc. Humans like to possess something. A sort of badge so to say that they belong to a club which was decided at birth. Stripping away that with cultural appropriation is what causes that backlash. that and doing something like what Katy Perry did without showing any reasoning of artistic intent and so forth.
I wonder, if a non-white person dresses up like a, let's say, cowboy, would people cry racism or cultural appropiation to the heavens?
+horaciosi Of course not because you can't be racist against whitey....or that's what those cretins would have you believe anyway.
Two years ago, my daughter and I went to Japan for a trip of a life time. We were there for 17 days. We loved it. We loved the people and the Country of Japan. We loved the busy streets and the quiet streets. We loved the shops. We loved the trains and the people traveling in them. I loved the respect that the Japanese people gave to us everywhere we went. I loved seeing the small areas in front of homes and small businesses that were decorated with single pots of specially chosen flowers and plants. I love the lanterns and the stones placed with care. I smiled at the great care people took with putting their garbage out and covering it with a net so the trash would not get scattered on the streets. We loved the street food and the street vending machines with hot and cold items. We loved the parks and the shrines and the cherry blossoms and I even loved the storm/sewer manhole covers that were individual pieces of art. I brought back 2 suitcases of kimono, old and new. I brought back fabric and Japanese books and magazines and craft supplies. I brought back some shells from a special meal. A small stone from a special meeting. Mostly, I brought back more love and wonderful memories spent with my daughter in Japan.
Honestly, my rule of thumb is generally "Don't use it purely for an aesthetic or what you think it means, at least do some basic research so make sure you aren't doing something dumb or offensive." like wearing corn-rows to "look gangster" or putting kanji on your arm without knowing what it means just because you think it's pretty. Basically: be respectful, do your research, if you aren't sure then ask someone in that community for assistance cause they most likely know much more about the thing you're asking about than a quick Googling just in case.
I agree that a person who choose to wear a traditional clothe should be respectful and should avoid being offensive, but why do you thing that they need to do a research in order to do this? I think that even these people in the video said that it's okay even if you aren't wearing it the right way.
Imagine you have to have a dagree just to wear a traditional clothing for a single day.
A very decent set of guidelines to go by. Kudos for posting it.
My rule is "Wear whatever the fuck you want". It's not my buisiness, as long as its within the law.
Half the world wears bavarian traditional clothings on the Oktoberfest, while nobody really cares for background, authenticity and it's not my job to educate them, if they don't care.
And it's no ones buisiness if i dress up in a poncho, playing Kalinka on my Didgeridoo while some vikings makes dreads out of my hair (dreads are NOT an african-american invention).
The same thing happend with speedy Gonzales. They removed him because he was "offensive" and a bunch of Mexicans were pissed because we all loved him.
Heck, he's the reason I learned my very first Spanish words ever as a tiny 5-year old German girl! I loved him and who knows, maybe he might've been the subconscious reason I wanted to learn the language in school and university later on in my life.
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That's the attitude most of the world seems to have. A sort of "Hey, people on the other side of the globe are thinking about and adapting my culture. Cool!"
I don't get that cultural appropriation hissy fit people have in America.
maybe because some people ait grew up in a culture of people being constantly triggered over everything in the universe. You know, like America
Rafael Miranda don’t worry, there are people here in America who disagree with them. I feel that they’re going backwards rather than forward. It’s almost like they’re acting like the racists from back in the day. Unfortunately, this is deemed popular and they are usually called ‘woke’. I believe in appreciate other cultures, whether you’re white, black, Mexican, etc. This whole cultural appropriation thing has to stop
Because they d9nt have any culture of their own except materialism and warring and a toxic patriotism. They think unless anyone doesn't think like them then they're wrong and they're an enemy. Everything about America is immature and close-minded. For all their freedom talks, they seem to be patting themselves on the back for being the greatest meanwhile the whole world can see them for what they are: hacks.
@@shizu-chan3942 Says other people are close-minded, with an entirely close-minded argument. Classic.
@@shizu-chan3942 wow that's totally wrong. Not everyone here is close minded and their is almost no "toxic patriotism" the Patriots of this country are usually the better folks because they care about this country and their fellow Americans.
The problem in the US is that things like "cancel culture", using labels like "racist, homophobic, sexist, transphobic" to invalidate others' words, pressuring companies to shove political agendas into their works, amongst other awful things have been normalized to the point where there is a sort of culture around being offended. And I mean culture as in there are A LOT of people who actively participate in these activities online AND irl.
People that do those things are the problem. Not the rest of us normal folk just trying to live life.
So yeah, I'm guessing you're either not american, a young girl, or another twitter NPC based on your answer.
Hope this helps you.
The man with glasses who gave that spectacular explanation about American and Japanese culture was so smart... That's a guy to date and have a good conversation with ...
i grew up in Japan and now live in America. There are so many things here that seems backwards. This video is so refreshing. It reminded me as to why i feel the way i do when it comes to loving, spreading, and accepting culture.
Thank you so much for making this. I miss Japan so much.
That glasses dude is a freaking sage! He talks so wisely but fast also as if it was common sense to think like that. Really admirable and a good rolemodel for getting a good perspective about tolerance and respect for humans of all cultures. IMO
Unfortunately, that kind of way of thinking is, or at least used to be, common sense in just about everywhere else except the US.
This whole "approximation" thing started out of the blue and very recently, with all signs pointing towards it being some weird political plot.
@@GugureSux It is just another way of controlling people.
I thought the same thing. That man is MADE of Wisdom. He has more common sense than all the BuzzFeed community in the world together.
@@bonissoni1989 Buzzfeed have a lot of common sense at the top. They are propogandists and money makers, not truth tellers tho.
I'd like to add: I'm Swedish and I have no problem with people from other cultures who dress-up like faux-vikings wearing stupid helmets with horns. :P
If you think vikings actually wore helmets with horns and don't bother to dig deeper into it then that's fine. If the historically inaccurate horned helmets make you read up a little on scandinavian culture then that's even better.
Seven Proxies I'm also Swedish and I totally agree with you. I actually feel honored in some way when people dress up as Vikings and stuff, even if it's inaccurate. Sharing is fun! :)
You mean... You feel HORN-ored haha. :P
Sorry.
S Susana if there was anything you could should foreigners, what would it be? Its yall's time to shine. 😂
thats even more amazing since he comes from the most pussified country by feminazis... props to him
Hehe, I'm just waiting for someone from my school to dig out a pic of me dressing up as a geisha in 2010 to label me a racist. :D But we have had problems with Finnish people dressing up in Sami costumes and getting flak for it, but on the other hand they are more sacred than the kimono, I think?
I may be the woman of the Caribbean in the UK & Ireland but wearing a yukata/kimono is a big experience for me in Japan. (I've never been to Japan before.) I've watched many tutorials about how to put on a yukata and how to tie the obi and how to style my hair and do my makeup that go along with the yukata/kimono. It doesn't matter what color skin you have, what race you represent, what nationality you at, we should all try to wear a yukata/kimono for ourselves. Sharing different cultures are very fun and interesting for every person.
I've studied in Japan twice and both times I was given the opportunity to wear traditional kimonos by people who were very excited to share that part of their culture with me. I did wear borrowed them for a short amount of time, but the whole time I felt mortified and out of place, I thought I was somehow offending someone?? looking back now I realize how insane that line of thought is and i feel a lot of regret about not sharing the excitement that those people had for me. Hopefully I can go back one day and fully enjoy it, they really are so intricately beautiful
"CULTURAL APPROPRIATION"
Then we have to close all pizzarias because its appropriation of the italian culture
And Taco Bell too.
And mcdonald's because burgers are from germany
And everyone leave the entire america and let the real natives take care of the land
Yea no more ravioli NO MORE CHIEF BOYARDEE
Matheus Peixoto lol 😂 we can all live together bro idk why we fight over race I hate everybody just as equally!!
The people interviewed seem so nice, makes me want to visit Japan even more.
Morgan Sparhawk you should, it's extremely clean, organized, and fun. If you go, try udon!
B. K. Pay for my ticket
B. K. Also hotel if possible
B. K. And a visa will be nice
They're nice and polite, i.e the opposite of English-speaking Whites.
"If that would create a new culture, that would be a wonderful thing". What a beautiful way to describe it. Culture is always evolving and while I think some things are good to keep to in tradition; clothing, speech, music, TV, movies, philosophies are all always changing. Once it is adopted by enough people it becomes the culture.
This makes me happy, glad to see how far we've come together post WW2 in such a short time. I feel the only way to lessen discrimination or racism is to learn more about one's culture and appreciate it.
Why is it that Japanese always seem so friendly/understanding?
the ones who walk under the sun and can answer random questions on the street without snark tend to be the nicer ones. Anywhere
They're not, they're just normal.. it's just some countries that are just full of butthurts and oversensitive people lmao
@Hameal - Did you mean " The United States" ?
+TheMourningsEnd That,s because of the "tatemae".
There's no hard proof of this, but there's a reasonable enough amount of circumstantial evidence that could make it a plausible reason as to why. But one possible explanation is because a lot of Samurai were assholes. The idea they were noble knights is apparently a lie sold to the world by a single author trying to make Japanese culture look better and make Samurai look more like noble European Knights (and I honestly doubt they were as noble as they are made out to be, as a species we tend to romanticize the hell out of things).
But there were two really asshole things that Samurai did: Tsujigiri and kirisute gomen. Tsujigiri was basically testing a new sword or technique against another person, and that person commonly was a defenseless peasant. Kirisute gomen was basically the ability to murder anyone of lower rank than yourself for a perceived offense against one's honor. So some people think that Japanese peasants became acting overly polite, being overly accommodating and obliging, and not interfering with things that did not involve them in an effort to avoid offending any Samurai. Eventually it just became part of the culture instead of a means of survival.
Like I said, not really any hard proof that I am aware of, but the circumstantial evidence makes it sound plausable.
Great interview! I loved the guy with the glasses, he had a lot of interesting things to say!
yep agree. he made a darn great point toward the end
He was also completely confident about what he said, and that's the best kind of people.
AND he's got majestic hair! What a cool dude.
wonderful young people I LOVE
Yeah, when he said he studied at US university it all made sense. He is probably more familiar with the idea behind the controversy than other people.
I feel like one of the beautiful aspects of our world is that we can share and embrace our and others cultures, as long as it isnt being used in a rude manner, (blackface, racist impersonations).
I'm a Mexican/American
And I get weird looks from my family cause I love japanese culture
But that doesn't stop me
And one day I wish to live in Japan
I do plan to move and live in Japan if possible. Either after I turn 18 or when I get out of high school.
Those guys in glasses are pretty cool respondents. I think they're pretty cool to talk to.
I thought the same.
Totally agree.. I would like to hang out with them.
This is really interesting. Seems like only Americans get offended for other countries. This "cultural appropriation" concept is actually hurting other cultures by shunning any interest in another country. On the other hand, I'd say that if celebrities simply applying the "culture" for mere profit without any attempt to to appreciate the concept itself, then it's not the greatest way to introduce that type of culture to the audience. Or if you are just downright trying to offend. But yeah, the idea of "culture appropriation" is ridiculous and Americans really need to relax.
"cultural appropriation" is just another way of controlling people.
I'm starting to think that these types of Americans make people think that America is just a land full of stupidity
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I think it’s appropriation, or at least sort of offensive, when people take culture without really learning about where it comes from or why it’s important. Of course, I have no right to speak on the behalf of other cultures, but on behalf of my culture I always hope that people understand where certain things come from and why it’s so important. Like if a non-mexican had a Quinceañera just because without knowing why such a celebration is important. But you’re right about how America does the whole “cultural appropriation” thing. I think the only time “cultural appropriation” is valid is like the fox-eye trend seeing as it offended so many asian-Americans.
I’d also like to add, even when non-natives use culture like that it usually tends to be less offensive and more...idk funny? Like when people use stereotypes without meaning to be offensive I find it kind of heart warming and funny simply because it gives me a chance to educate them and also because a lot of the stereotypes tend to be true and that makes me laugh so much-
These people have such a smart answers and opinions. Very intelligent. I imagine most Japanese like that. Greetings from Tricity in Poland 😘
I’m showing this to everybody. People need to stop being silly.
I think a lot of the offense comes from people not understanding how bullying works. People who get angry about "cultural appropriation" almost always defend that mindset by talking about how they were bullied for doing/wearing the thing that they are now "defending." But bullying isn't about the thing, it's about upsetting someone. They go for the thing makes you different and try to make you feel bad about it. It isn't nice, but being a victim doesn't give you special permission. Being angry at someone for wearing a Kimono just because they don't look Japanese is ALSO bullying. Just because someone was mean to you doesn't make it okay for you to be mean to others.
Most people imitate because the LIKE something. I want to wear a Kimono because they are beautiful not to damage Japanese Americans, but I can't because other Americans WILL use it to damage me.
@@indicacarrots but stoping others from wearing different cultures won't suddenly stop all this racism. shouldn't we focus of actual discrimination instead of this ehole "cultural appropriation" movement
@@indicacarrots sorry but I think I'll listen to Japanese people and not to some white person who think they can speak on behalf of another culture 😊
@@talete7712 i made the comment a month ago and since then my views have changed.
@@indicacarrots I'm happy for you!
I remember this thing where Japanese kimono makers arranged an exhibit in a california museum, because popularity was declining and they were hoping that americans, if not japanese, would continue the culture.
This, of course, made asian americans, removed by generations from the culture they claim, angrily cry out that they should soley own this piece of cloth being offered to westerners by the japanese themselves.
Ciara.Chaya I remember that, it was all over the news
I also like that Asian Americans talk about "the west" as though they aren't westerners. It's ridiculous. YOU ARE NOT JAPANESE, YOU ARE AMERICAN. Only Americans have this attitude as far as I've seen. Like how people talk about themselves as though they're Irish. Oh, it's Saint Patrick's day, better honour my culture by getting drunk like I do every weekend. You're not Irish, you're just a red head from Boston. It annoys the hell out of me.
Kyle Whitehead here here!
I remember that.
Very smart answers! They seem genuinely sincere and without any prejudice or inferiority complex!
I know this is an old video Yuta, but I really loved watching it. If an American takes the time to wear clothing from a different culture and takes the time to wear it correctly, then he/she is paying a respect to that country's culture. I know that both my Daughter and I have dressed for cultural events and holidays here in the US wearing a Japanese Kimono correctly, and Japanese people have commented on our clothing in a positive way. It gives us that feeling of being a bit closer to the Japanese culture, which we both love.
One last thing that should be mentioned. The United States does not have any predominant culture. We are an eclectic combination of almost every country in the world. While some people try to divide us, I like to think that we are welcoming of everyone!
American people: "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO JAPAN!?!?"
Japan: "Wow, Im happy she's wearing a Kimono."
Japanese people seem to be the voice of reason in these weird times we live in. Good stuff once again, Yuta!
what you call reason I call being cucked. Because you're non-Asian/non-Japanese, of course you support it b/c it's a soft control on the people and their culture.
Sure, sure. Let's all keep our own culture to ourselves, then. Is that what you suggest? Do you have any feasible way to make that happen? Or do you want people who are fond of other cultures and want to express themselves through them to pay a tax or face some sort of penalty? Yes, isolationism is the way to go. Let's all keep to our own groups, segregate ourselves because you and your kind can't handle the fact that people are free to like and adopt things from other cultures. Maybe you also want to go ahead and ban all Japanese anime, too, since its roots are not only in Japanese art but also took originally influence from Disney and so forth. How about forks? Or cars? Should we also ban cinema and all western clothes from non-western people? Force Japanese people to re-adopt their traditional dresscode? Should the US throw a cease and desist on Baseball which is a huge thing in Japan? How about rock music?
What do you even mean with "control on culture"? What inherent value does culture have so that it can't be shared with others? Are you the arbiter on who can adopt other cultures? Do you even understand how cultures have come about? Or how they have evolved through the centuries? There is a Japanese person in this very video who says that the Japanese adopted the Kanji writing style from China. Should they perhaps return it back and never use it again?
I think Japanese have very high average intelligence and good education and it shows in the thoughtful, reasonable responses and civilised demeanour when they are interviewed.
Miki Cerise I agree but when it comes to racial issues they are so, so, hopelessly clueless.
HenkkaArt Read the other comments I have in the thread. I, as an Asian-American, have no problem with appreciating and adopting parts from other cultures but there's a line where it becomes unacceptable.
Just a month ago, there was a white guy on YT telling Vietnamese people how to enjoy Pho. Who the hell is he to tell Vietnamese people out of all people how to enjoy their own food?!?
That's the kinda shit I'm talking about. There's a point where it goes too far and it's actually offensive to people but white people don't consider it offensive. It's no surprise then that the comments in this video don't actually think something CAN be offensive just b/c some Japanese said so.
Wow. This is actually a question I had about kimonos, since cultural appropriation is a huge deal over here. That's actually really sweet of them, and that one guy had a really good point. (and awesome glasses)
I'm late to the game, but glad this is here. Thank you! 💜
The guy with square glasses makes a lot of great points.
LORD, thank you so much for this video Yuta. I've been trying to explain this to US friends for so long. A similar instance had happened in regards to Jamaican culture, my home country, where a white person was speaking Jamaican. It was said to be racist which makes NO SENSE because we have white-Jamaicans as well. People from the US have been scarred to be extra sensitive around race and culture and therefore end up fighting the wrong battles before they actually think about it.
I'm going to make a follow up video for this.. you've sparked my interest. Really, thanks for this!!
LivLuvLang EXACTLY!
What is 'speaking Jamaican'?
Most likely what the he/she is referring to is Patois (Jamaican Creole).
In Jamaica, it can be considered a language, so we can also call it "Jamaican". We read literature books in Patois, as well as it's origins don't solely rely on English.
LivLuvLang I'd thought you meant Patois, but I wasn't sure if you'd simply meant a Jamaican accent.
I used to play for a steel drum band and there was this White guy I used to see there all the time. Nothing was quite so unique as seeing him open his mouth and this THICK Jamaican accent come out. It's unexpected for most, even me, though I'm from the Caribbean (though raised in Miami)
When it comes to culture and acceptance, Japanese people are awesome.
Depends.
Please explain why it depends? So far in all of yuta's videos I have watched, japanese people seemed to accept and appreciate all sorts of attempts to behave/dress according to their culture. But I also find it weird they are so happy/positive about it
I was thinking the same. I'm sure there are some that don't accept things like that, but usually we don't see that in Yuta 's videos
Maybe the correct question that should be asked is if THEY would criticize one of their fellow japanese friends trying to mimick American culture to the point where they don't do it the right way and might look ignorant :S
"Depends" is an obvious answer: some people in Japan are not like those in this video. Any generalization leads to inaccuracy.
But in GENERAL, the OP is right.
I think this might be my favorite of your videos.
I'm white and I don't get mad when other races and cultures dress up in business suits or jeans. So it's weird that there are some people still mad about Katy's performance.
That's the first analogy I've heard using curry.
and dang I wish I could find Japanese curry here in the states, but good luck.
Yeah, that won't be easy. But don't give up. It can be found.
What state do you live in? Many grocery stores sell boxed Japanese curry roux that you can make at home. :)
Haha but it was a good analogy
Okonomiyaki Gaijin I'm all the way on the east cost where Japanese people are rare...
I moved to Japan when I was three and my family and I wore kimono and everyone though it was adorable
Weeeeeeb
Lex Luthor What are you? 12?
@@Cbear11205 Yes and very bored
@@lexluthor2988 well at least you're honest
@@paulghencea9037 lmao that's what I was about to say
I'm so glad that I found this video! I've had a kimono for SO many years and have only worn it once (didn't go out) because I wanted to see if I was able to properly tie an obi. My goal was to buy traditional clothing from around the world because I find them to be beautiful but I stopped trying since I was afraid people would say I was appropriating even though I genuinely have interest in different cultures.
my history teacher lived in Dubai and teached there for a while. she told us that her female students actually taught her how to wear a niqab, and my teacher respected the clothing. so I think wearing clothes from another culture is okay, as long as you don’t disrespect the culture.
people in foreign countries be like "you're such a weeaboo for wearing kimono and buying anime merchandise." people in japan be like "were happy for them to like our culture." 😐 I'm now confused.
well I do love anime and manga but not to the point that I will abandon my culture, but assholes are too ignorant to think of that.
It used to maybe mean something. Now it's just an insult.
Ken Zhang yep, that's totally true.
Weaboo is so overused now it has lost its meaning. People seem to think that liking Japanese culture = weaboo.
Ash Those are generally just trolls.
"how do you feel as an American when Japanese people wear weastern clothing?" easy answer is....I don't care.
AlmostSober but you see whites can't be discriminated against.
No, Duke, that never ever happens. Except in the far East where they are a tiny minority. And yet, nobody cries out against the massive crowds of Asian business men in black suits because it doesn't matter.
ah but there's no culture behind t-shirts and jeans
hinabcf :P lederhosen, Dutch hats, Jewish hats, etc etc
ethernetbot most clothing people wear today did start in western culture. Jeans button up shirts etc etc. But no one gives a shit. When Asian people first went to the USA. They were made fun of the way they dressed. Many of them adapted to the way westerners dressed just to fit in. It’s a sad fact but it’s true. We kinda forced it on them. Dress like us or we make fun of you.
I truly never understand these cultural appropriation agendas. I mean, cultural exchange has been a thing since the dawn of time and is ever-changing. The peak of all this exchange happens when traders sail the open sea in look for new resources and land. That is why the port is always known as the starting point of culture spreading.
Wow!! I am happy that the future of the world is in the hands of guys like them! The boy with the glasses said very wise words !! Ciao from Venice, Italy!
This reminds me of when people in North America were criticising Avril Lavigne's Japanese music video. I remember a lot of North American's were up in arms but a lot of Japanese people didn't have a problem with it. I find that a lot of white people are so inclined to call others racist at every little thing because they are so desperate to prove that they are not racist. It's sad really. I think that the conversation about racism is good because there is so much of it in the western world, especially since it is really a melting pot for different cultures at this moment in time. However, sometimes I don't think people realize how ridiculous they sound to people from other cultures all over the world.
My thoughts exactly! I am glad to know I am not the only one who thinks that way. :)
That whole debacle was such a joke. "omg even the dancers don't look happy" which was one of the most stupid comments I had heard... it's called they were instructed to do that and it's a form of juxtaposition.
And Avril is super popular in Asia anywho. Damn SJWs...
SJWs live in their own little world where they elevate themselves to the most "perfect" human status or sometimes as God's equal. They like to pass judgement to others but are unwilling to take criticism and judgement directed at them. SJWs suffer from the classic superiority ego complex.
I read ur comment as north korea somehoew
I am an older person and I really appreciate this video. I have long held that incorporating pieces of other cultures is actually a type of acceptance. If we adhere to the notion that no one should use, wear, or partake in anything that isn't part of their birth culture then we are insisting on separatism and alienation. How can we come together as people if we don't share? The exceptions are when it is done intentionally to mock or ridicule or casual use of peoples religions then I certainly agree that crosses a line and should be open to criticism.
Wow I agree with this so much. Great comment! ^^
Very well put. I was about to comment but you said everything I wanted to express and saved me some time.
Well said, took the words right out of my mouth
This video is so enlightening. Thank you for sharing the Japanese view on this topic
Japanese ppl= thanks for appreciating my culture! You look beautiful-
Americans= CULTURAL APPROPRIATION
Dude at around 6:00 minutes really dropped some hard truth there. Made me think bout racism in America in a diff way. The way he said even though we are a diverse country we still live apart as separate people. Where as the Japanese absorb other cultures to improve themselves and do better as a nation. I guess its just the way he said it. Its like yeah, we're basically all stepping over each other and trying to reach the top but because we never pull together as a people our country is so behind in ways like Education, Public transportation, etc.... I mean look at our trains and then look at Japan we're still using tracks that were built back in the early 1900s while they have one of the fastest on earth. And then I look at like some of the hotels and Airports in other cities like Dubai. Its so sad how much greater a nation America could truly be if it wasn't so divided and focused on the stupidest things.
This was the most prominent point I think in the video. People call America a "melting pot" but its not. Its a bunch of people segregating (or having been segregated) into little pockets of cultural homogeneity. There is little intermixing and that goes back to the roots of the country.
Compare that to Japan, Japan is like an onion. You peel a layer and there's another underneath. The best example was when I lived in Okinawa. During お盆 a friend was explaining to me the festival. Incidentally we were at a part of town along a sea wall where there would normally be surfers and he mentioned that there were few people willing to come to the beaches at that time as it was traditionally viewed as "bad luck", which he later clarified to be that traditionally it is believed dead ancestors come from the ocean when they visit during お盆. This was from a person that prayed at a 仏壇 and wore a cross necklace (and if you know the history of how butsudan became widespread, you'll know why that is peculiar). Although, perhaps less so for Okinawans.
@@cjohnson3836 The funny thing is, in America, the 'melting pot' phenomenon you speak of, is a recent catchphrase. Heck, our tag, 'a nation of immigrants' didn't come around until 1960. We've always been more of a European based country that used immigration once or twice to fill out recently acquired land ("conquered" or "stolen" if you will). So yes, we're not a melting pot, we were never designed to be one in the first place. Heck, our original immigration system was rather brutal and racist, if you will, but that itself managed to get the newcomers to adapt and blend in effectively. Nowadays .... it's very different.
As a foreign who grew up watching american movies and american TV shows, I always find it weird how they always portrayed americans as "white americans" and "black americans", as if "white americans" culture and "black americans" culture were two different things that didn't mix together. I don't know if I'm making sense, but I'm brazilian and of course we know if we are black or white or whatever, but we didn't think of ourselves as "black brazilians" or "white brazilians", we rather see ourselves as "brazilians". The same way, we didn't see our culture as "black brazilian" culture or "white brazilian" culture, we just see it as "brazilian culture", knowing that the brazilian culture is a huge mix of many other different cultures. So I could never understand how it worked in the USA.
@@fla9086 very interesting observation. I'm from Indonesia and I just noticed this from your comment. In our country, whether you're brown skinned, black, yellow, white, we have never call them separate names. We're simply Indonesian, and we are the most diverse country in Southeast Asia. Its weird that Americans like to emphasize their segregation. Isn't it better to just be one?
Just want to add onto the conversation above - we're such a big country that there is no real "American culture." There's southern culture, midwest culture, west coast culture, east coast culture, black culture, Italian culture, Hispanic culture, etc. I've heard similar things about other large countries like Russia and China. Our countries are just too big to feasibly have any culture that is similar enough across all groups to foster any sort of familiarity between our groups.
Also, minorities and white people tend to have VERY different feelings about the country as a whole. White Americans seem to be more likely to feel blind patriotism and avoid talking about what's wrong with the country because it's "too political." As a black American, I see too many things wrong with the country that nobody is willing to fix or even talk about, so I'm not actually proud to be American at all. I'm black first and foremost because I don't feel seen or represented by America on more than a superficial level. I know many other minorities, black, Hispanic, Indian, etc. who feel the same way. It's hard to connect with people who are so...apathetic to something that feels so personal to me. The one thing that's universal in American "culture" is a lack of empathy for others, and we'll never mesh until we learn to feel for each other.
I really like the comment made by the young girl with glasses saying it would be nice if a new culture were to born from wearing kimono in different ways both by Japanese and foreigners. I totally agree. Culture is not engraved in stone, it's a living thing that reflects the historic time we are living in. I wish we could understand and accept this more instead of just be angry at all that is unfamiliar or unnatural to us.
Ah! The guys with glasses agree too! It must be a glasses thing! ahahahah!
Well said.
exactly. it was okay to spread culture in the past, but now its not ok? these culture appropriation is bullshit. of course there are something that is not okay to do with someone else's culture. like capitalizing someone else's culture as your own. for example, batik is from indonesia, its ok for malaysia and malaysia to sell batik's clothing, but its not ok claim that its theirs.
other countries around the world adopted some of english words as theirs to enrich the vocabulary. its just one of many example that trading culture is actually a good thing.
I feel like that would be awesome. Like someone should get on that and try to start a thing where it's like stars just start doing funky things with the concept like cutting out the shoulders or something, IDK, like make some form of interesting design from it, you know? Maybe like have people use modified kimono to get around people staring at their tight yoga pants or something or maybe find some way to make it more practical for daily life.
I mean, I feel like that wouldn't be hard, you know? If someone just starts walking around in a fancy robe like that then it'll probably turn some heads, so there's probably some precedent for it, right?
mameng666 i totally get your and op's comments! however i think that what upsets people of color/people who have different cultures is how some white people tend to adopt their cultures without acknowledging the history behind them. a good example for this would be people doing the "dia de los muertos" makeup as a halloween costume when it has a significant history behind it. i now (bc this video and you guys' coments changed my mind) completely agree with the fact that culture should be celebrated by being shared, but also by having their history shared, acknowledged and not forgotten! i think that would be the ideal solution to the cultural appropriation issue :)
Wow they were all so positive and very understanding!