Project vs Problem-Based Learning 🔄 (21st Century Education)
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Paul Romani (M.Ed.) from Pear Tree Education is back after spending 5 years developing his own private school: Pear Tree School, and working on his Master of Education degree in Educational Technology & Learning Design!
Today's video is the third of a 3-part video about project-based learning. This third video compares and contrasts project-based learning with problem-based learning. There is a lot of confusion among teachers about these two approaches, primarily because they have the same acronym (PBL) and have similar names.
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As a current VICTIM of problem based learning, I can assure you it does not work.. having succeeding in traditional style learning and now being in a medical program that only uses problem based learning, I am not excelling... learning objectives are unclear and teachers refuse to answer questions when clarification is required. The "teachers" sit silently in a a room with you for half the morning, watch you make a fool of yourself, give no input as to where to focus your studies on even though they know what you should focus on to meet the real learning goals.. then they give you about one single day, more like that evening and the evening the night before the group synthesis is due, to actually learn an entire organ system... then they tell you what a wonderful job you did... then comes the test, and about half the test covers material they never even old you you needed to know... so NO, problem based learning is garbage and should not be used in higher education or education at any level. maybe if it were hybridized and combined with lectures but again, novice learners don't yet know what is important and don't know what they don't know or even what they need to know.
Hi. Thank you for sharing your personal experiences on this channel. You sound very frustrated with your current educational environment, which I think is symptomatic of the way that problem-based learning has been implemented by the teacher(s) in your institution.
Problem-based learning requires support from teachers. Asking students to work independently on real-life problems that almost always involve complex subject matter and skill sets is a lot to ask. This requires modelling and ongoing support, which is doesn't sound like you have received.
Another requirement is that students need to be engaged in the topics and to find them relevant and meaningful. Additionally, they need to have the ability to be able to learn independently from a teacher. Unfortunately, most schools still teach in very traditional, teacher-centered ways, which makes students almost entirely reliant on the teacher for pretty much their every action. What is more, students develop an unhealthy need to know that their every action is 'right'. They can become unable to proceed with a task with this constant reassurance.
I would urge you, though, not to draw conclusions that something 'doesn't work' because of bad implementation by your school. It wouldn't still be used if it wasn't effective.
@Pear Tree Education Inc. I'm sorry, but no, it is not unhealthy to need to know my every action and insight is right. It's medical school! Literally, lives could depend on what I'm supposed to be learning. The simple truth is that problem based learning is dangerous and woefully lazy on the part of teachers who implement it. When they won't even answer a question for clarification, that is completely unacceptable.
The topics are definitely relevant, heart lungs kidneys brain, the problem is there i a so much to know, and honestly, not only is there a medical licensing exam I need to pass that is very deep on the knowledge requirement, the problem based learning style is very shallow in its knowledge depth in addition to its lack of guidance. I self-taught myself a lot over the years by any school that chooses problem based learning over traditional style teaching should lose their accreditation.
@Pear Tree Education Inc. and btw, when I do finally become a doctor, my pet project/social hobby will be to do exactly that... idk how yet but I will do everything in manpower to make friends at accrediting bodies and pressure them to ditch PBL schools. I have seen plenty of graduates from PBL as well, and their lack of comprehensive knowledge is appalling, I literally had a doctor tell me you can't cut an immediate release oxycodone in half bc it would neutralize its effect...idiocy
As I say, your teachers should be supporting you, which it doesn't sound like they are. You are correct that you should be being taught things, which is something I mentioned previously; you can't implement what you don't know.
At the same time, the point of PBL is to challenge you to apply what you know in real-life situations that don't have simple or single answers. There may be multiple solutions to a problem, but only one or two of them will lead to the best outcome.
Additionally, in PBL, you shouldn't expect to be able to clarify your thoughts along the way. As I said, you're supposed to be applying your knowledge and skills in context and relying on each other as a team to problem solve. After having attempted to do so, you should receive feedback from your teacher and other peers on what your group did well and what it could have done better / differently.
Again as I said, you can't draw the conclusion that PBL doesn't work because of your own experiences, since they are based on the poor implementation of that system.
And that's the danger of PBL, lazy implementation. But seriously, PBL is not a new concept. If it were actually practical or beneficial, it would be nearly universal given it came about, to my recollection, in the 60s?.
What I know is that traditional lecture style teaching is effective, and given that the endpoints are nearly identical with the exception that traditional style covers more material, I would stick with traditional style over PBL every time. As a victim of PBL, I have unfortunate insight into how bad it can be. Amd in the medical field, it is incredibly dangerous to implement PBL when lives are at stake