One of the best most efficient electric cars ever made is the 2017 ioniq electric. With a 28 kw battery I was able to achieve 270-280km. I used the car for public transportation with Lyft and Uber. Very good car
GOOD job👍🏻 My calculations were 264 KM - and you drove longer. Your test is way more accurate compared to what Tesla Bjorn did. I wonder how he managed to have such a high consumption and only get 220 KM out of it. We have driven more than 3650 KM now in our egolf. It is from 1 of July. Our avg consumption is 122 WH. So our range is in fact 260 KM on 100 % SOC. This car is way more efficient than the ID.3. I think the tests I saw of it. Or my Tesla Model 3😂😂 170 WH
Nice work! Sweaty palms? I recently drove my 2017 (34,000 km on odo) e-Golf 232 km (started at 93%) and took battery down to 7%. I also drafted a truck for 25 km but did not want to see turtle because I am not as brave as you! My calculations say 27.5 kWh capacity, though I drove faster than you. You got 31 kWh on your trip - clearly a new battery pack. Fun!
OMG!! 1% SoC, you are a madman almost Bjorn level crazy. hehe. Especially when you had a bad sleep the night before as well. Hope you made up for it and slept well the next night, well after that challenge you deserve a beer/wine/cider/poison of choice. :) Here I was abit worried about 23% SoC on my Ioniq that is nothing compared to yours.
Thank you a lot for the test! I still wonder how efficient 36k eGolf is compared to old 24k. With 24k under 12 kWh/100 is reachable at 80km/h+noAC in best case, at 90 my figures tend to be 13+ (no AC and similar out temps). I'm dying to know what will be ID3 numbers. And yes, METAL! 🥳 🤟
@@femiabiodun911 Agree, 20-25°C & you crack a window. Plenty of air. Do it all the time. Average see 260-280km (terrain depending) on a full cycle discharge.
Thinking about buying a 2020 E-Golf. Daily commute of 60km one way and a public charger nextdoor. We live in an apartment and don't have the possibility to charge ourselves. Any idea on the degradation of the battery after one year of use? Would you recommend the car?
I don't recommend deep discharge, try to keep it above 40% and you may get a lot more life out of the car. Also when charge is low, you can get surprises, like sudden drop in percentage, so always plan your trip with high margin.
So 269 km range. Good video. 14:10 To film the charger screen in daylight perhaps place camera on a tripod, and make a black cardboard box that is held by tripod and fits around screen and camera. A detail, in headline: kmh -> km/h
Thanks. I know about the filming the charger in daylight. But I am too lazy to take that with me. kmh and km/h. I think people know what it means and I don't see a problem with shortening it. ;)
@@BatteryLife "and I don't see a problem with shortening it." Please no. It is a unit so the division-slash has specific meaning. Like the units kW (power) and kWh (energy) are also different. Be a pro and do it right.
The Connect app on all VAG brands is bugging and snagging a lot. Also on our Citigo iV. Doesn't update and always wrong data displayed. I hope they do something soon to fix it ⚡Nice video, very informative 👍
daddy dances in car - dog puts paws over eye and shakes head NO NO NO daddy showing me up again !!!!. you only made it to charger due to the down hill of the road if you were tired you could have rested more and done the test later
get closer to the truck and save 20%... but the 90km/h results are too worse. I regulary get over 300 km in eco+ mode cause I have a roundtrip of 305 km where I usually charge and then drive faster or do the slow speed and get through run if it is not too warm or cold. Did you do a roundtrip or was there an altitude gap between start and recharge ? ABRP should do the SOC trick too if you use the VW BT or we connect dongle if you have the ABRP+ subscription cause that offers dynamic route and charge planning based on live SOC and consumption. Lot of work to drive all your tests. But the hours of driving on these constant speeds is a chance for you to get behind usability and software. And the interieur quality is great and comparable to a mercedes c-class of that era. But that is the result of economy of scale and a shared platform: adding a new drive system is doable for cheap with the legacy of good quality id3 starts as a tiny volume production compared to the million of Golfs produced each year. Having a dashboard form that easily can cost 1 Mio. € then the cost per car are 10€ for an id3 100.000 unit production and 1€ for a golf 1.000.000 unit production. Be aware we are only talking about the degradation of a form to mold a (plastic) dashboard. In a world of budget and target costs the only way to save money is to use a cheaper material, no soft surfaces, no metal applications.. You can't reach golf built + material quality if your volume is 1/10 and the only way to save a bit is lower interior quality and saving parts, applications compared to the e-golf that got a lot of applications /badges from the GTI or GTE. Imagine you deliver the car with a floor and without foot carpets: you save at least 20€ of material costs and at least 50% of larbor time and overhead costs like logistics which are the costs from arrival point, quality check, moving into storage and then the continous flow to the point where the carpet is clipsed in its position. Might save 5 minutes of direct working time for ★ going from car to the pick up place ★ grabbing the set of 4 ★ going to the car while ★ sorting the driver carpet out (co driver has a different one) ★ laying the unneeded 3 carpets down to avoid scratches ★ opening the door ★ putting the carpet in and ★ clipse it in at 2 points for front seats ★ closing door ★ picking up the remaining 3 carpets ★ going to next door Don't think 5 minutes are a lot. Do it yourself that way and then you know how long it needs in your first and 10th trial. And it saves overhead costs like bad quality at delivery ... id3 will be delivered without carpets and that saves 20€ for the carpets (you have to pay at least 80€ net + VAT / sales tax in the accessory shop and 300% is the usual margin so a good way to reverse calculate to get the purchase price) You also will save the logistics for the carpets and the overhead costs and the assembly cost which can be another 20€. VW saves 40€ by removing carpets from the id3 . And on top 50% of id 3 buyers will buy genuine VW carpets for 100€ in the shop and bring VW another wholesale profit of 67% of net margin (80€ - 20€) x 2/3 = 40€ If every 2nd id3 buyer later buys genuine carpets VW saved 40€ costs and gained 40€ x 50% buyers = 20€ profit which is 60€ in total. This tiny cut brings VW 60€ moving ahead from the e-Golf to id.3 And they needed a lot more steps and cuts to get from the e-golf costs (subsidiarized by VW combustion platform) to id3. You will recognice every tiny cut if you look carefully. The hood will have no hydraulic stand ... for example another 10€ part saved if you get a pure metal rod. Works great even in russian winter where the hydraulic one sucks.
hallo grovelling vw rat, did you get the id. you know the one that looks like a very cheap fiat inside and the tech dont works saw review where the info screen froze for an hour, what a disaster, oh I just ordered a e golf yesterday, the mk 8 is stripped out and cheapend,
One of the best most efficient electric cars ever made is the 2017 ioniq electric. With a 28 kw battery I was able to achieve 270-280km. I used the car for public transportation with Lyft and Uber. Very good car
One of your best videos yet. Nobody else would dare go to 1%. Well done 👏. Olivia wasn't worried at all.
You havent seen the reviews where they run the can till it stops,there on you tube,do it now
I have driven my eGolf beyond O range showing. Scary. It was probably about 3 miles more.
You are on your way to becoming a legend, sir. 👏
Great video. And great car. I like the interior quality better in the e- golf then the ID.3
It was fun and thrill to the end. You certainly have some big balls 😂. Thank you.
Bought the 2019 today and picking it tomorrow thanks for the video
Das war mal richtig unterhaltsam! Danke fürs zeigen. Als eGolf Besitzer hab ich richtig mitgefiebert😁👍
That's a really close call 🙈👍
Good test!
to stressful and with no ac, I will not punish myself that much. Thanks for the video
GOOD job👍🏻 My calculations were 264 KM - and you drove longer.
Your test is way more accurate compared to what Tesla Bjorn did.
I wonder how he managed to have such a high consumption and only get 220 KM out of it.
We have driven more than 3650 KM now in our egolf. It is from 1 of July. Our avg consumption is 122 WH. So our range is in fact 260 KM on 100 % SOC. This car is way more efficient than the ID.3. I think the tests I saw of it. Or my Tesla Model 3😂😂 170 WH
Didn't Björn do his test in the winter?
Bjørn Nyland style, i like it :) do it with the id3 too.
Nice work! Sweaty palms? I recently drove my 2017 (34,000 km on odo) e-Golf 232 km (started at 93%) and took battery down to 7%. I also drafted a truck for 25 km but did not want to see turtle because I am not as brave as you! My calculations say 27.5 kWh capacity, though I drove faster than you. You got 31 kWh on your trip - clearly a new battery pack. Fun!
What a thriller 😅! Nice it turned out well!
11:00 I appreciate your sacrifice lol
OMG!! 1% SoC, you are a madman almost Bjorn level crazy. hehe. Especially when you had a bad sleep the night before as well. Hope you made up for it and slept well the next night, well after that challenge you deserve a beer/wine/cider/poison of choice. :) Here I was abit worried about 23% SoC on my Ioniq that is nothing compared to yours.
Ein junger Mensch muss auch mal Glück haben :)
Would be great if you would bring in the "dog factor" in your videos. is there a dog mode for example, where are air channels ...
Who was more stressed Chris? You arriving with 1% or Olivia without AC. 😂 Great test 😎
Luckily it wasn't that warm. She was ok.
Does the e-Golf have Auto Steer (Adaptive CC + LFA (Following)), like the Kona?
Or is it just ACC?
Thank you a lot for the test!
I still wonder how efficient 36k eGolf is compared to old 24k. With 24k under 12 kWh/100 is reachable at 80km/h+noAC in best case, at 90 my figures tend to be 13+ (no AC and similar out temps).
I'm dying to know what will be ID3 numbers.
And yes, METAL! 🥳 🤟
269 km range at 11.2 kWh / 100 km gives a net battery capacity of 30.1 kWh.
But the consumption was 11,7 kwh so it would mean a ~31,5kwh~ capacity
if only they can put eGolf body in the ID platform, i'd buy this instead of ID.3 tbh
Thanks for this. But if you had used the AC with Eco driving mode, and external Temp around 20-25 degrees, what would the range likely be?
The ac was running in a already cool car. So difference would be very small. Heat has more impact.
@@BatteryLife oh great. Thanks for your response
@@femiabiodun911 Agree, 20-25°C & you crack a window. Plenty of air. Do it all the time. Average see 260-280km (terrain depending) on a full cycle discharge.
Oh god :)
Thinking about buying a 2020 E-Golf. Daily commute of 60km one way and a public charger nextdoor. We live in an apartment and don't have the possibility to charge ourselves.
Any idea on the degradation of the battery after one year of use?
Would you recommend the car?
The car is good. If you do not need the space an eUp is good too. But hard to get.
Degredation depends on the usage.
I don't recommend deep discharge, try to keep it above 40% and you may get a lot more life out of the car. Also when charge is low, you can get surprises, like sudden drop in percentage, so always plan your trip with high margin.
How much would a full charge cost you then???
You still had a full 1%, why didn't you drive around the parkinglot a few more loops to get it to 0%? Old man. (hahaha) Good fun.
So 269 km range. Good video.
14:10 To film the charger screen in daylight perhaps place camera on a tripod, and make a black cardboard box that is held by tripod and fits around screen and camera.
A detail, in headline: kmh -> km/h
Thanks. I know about the filming the charger in daylight. But I am too lazy to take that with me.
kmh and km/h. I think people know what it means and I don't see a problem with shortening it. ;)
@@BatteryLife "and I don't see a problem with shortening it." Please no. It is a unit so the division-slash has specific meaning. Like the units kW (power) and kWh (energy) are also different. Be a pro and do it right.
When is your ID3 turning up please?
No idea. Hopefully in the end of september.
Battery Life I hope so too, good luck with it.
@@BatteryLife yeah true. I watched your ID.3 ordering video. BTW did you order it with the 77kWh pack?
First edition 58kWh
does the e-golf have the basic golf road noice above 80kmh?
Basic?
@@BatteryLife atleast here in Finland Golf is known for its high road/tire noice on highways
I was ok with the noise. Not too bad.
The Connect app on all VAG brands is bugging and snagging a lot. Also on our Citigo iV. Doesn't update and always wrong data displayed. I hope they do something soon to fix it ⚡Nice video, very informative 👍
Use the new We connect Id App for it. It is way faster!
@@BatteryLife 🤔 Does it work on the Citigo also?
No idea! Try it.
@@BatteryLife 😅👍⚡
daddy dances in car - dog puts paws over eye and shakes head NO NO NO daddy showing me up again !!!!.
you only made it to charger due to the down hill of the road
if you were tired you could have rested more and done the test later
İ like your test. I am from Turkey. Please same test again 75 km/h. Thank you.
Sorry no. Too slow.
@@BatteryLife oke. I thought the slower the ride, the more energy would be generated on the ramp descents. I wondered.
get closer to the truck and save 20%...
but the 90km/h results are too worse.
I regulary get over 300 km in eco+ mode cause I have a roundtrip of 305 km where I usually charge and then drive faster or do the slow speed and get through run if it is not too warm or cold.
Did you do a roundtrip or was there an altitude gap between start and recharge ?
ABRP should do the SOC trick too if you use the VW BT or we connect dongle if you have the ABRP+ subscription cause that offers dynamic route and charge planning based on live SOC and consumption.
Lot of work to drive all your tests.
But the hours of driving on these constant speeds is a chance for you to get behind usability and software.
And the interieur quality is great and comparable to a mercedes c-class of that era.
But that is the result of economy of scale and a shared platform:
adding a new drive system is doable for cheap with the legacy of good quality
id3 starts as a tiny volume production compared to the million of Golfs produced each year. Having a dashboard form that easily can cost 1 Mio. € then the cost per car are 10€ for an id3 100.000 unit production and 1€ for a golf 1.000.000 unit production. Be aware we are only talking about the degradation of a form to mold a (plastic) dashboard.
In a world of budget and target costs the only way to save money is to use a cheaper material, no soft surfaces, no metal applications.. You can't reach golf built + material quality if your volume is 1/10 and the only way to save a bit is lower interior quality and saving parts, applications compared to the e-golf that got a lot of applications /badges from the GTI or GTE.
Imagine you deliver the car with a floor and without foot carpets:
you save at least 20€ of material costs and at least 50% of larbor time and overhead costs like logistics which are the costs from arrival point, quality check, moving into storage and then the continous flow to the point where the carpet is clipsed in its position.
Might save 5 minutes of direct working time for
★ going from car to the pick up place
★ grabbing the set of 4
★ going to the car while
★ sorting the driver carpet out (co driver has a different one)
★ laying the unneeded 3 carpets down to avoid scratches
★ opening the door
★ putting the carpet in and
★ clipse it in at 2 points for front seats
★ closing door
★ picking up the remaining 3 carpets
★ going to next door
Don't think 5 minutes are a lot. Do it yourself that way and then you know how long it needs in your first and 10th trial.
And it saves overhead costs like bad quality at delivery ...
id3 will be delivered without carpets and that saves 20€ for the carpets (you have to pay at least 80€ net + VAT / sales tax in the accessory shop and 300% is the usual margin so a good way to reverse calculate to get the purchase price)
You also will save the logistics for the carpets and the overhead costs and the assembly cost which can be another 20€.
VW saves 40€ by removing carpets from the id3 .
And on top 50% of id 3 buyers will buy genuine VW carpets for 100€ in the shop and bring VW another wholesale profit of 67% of net margin (80€ - 20€) x 2/3 = 40€
If every 2nd id3 buyer later buys genuine carpets VW saved 40€ costs and gained 40€ x 50% buyers = 20€ profit which is 60€ in total.
This tiny cut brings VW 60€ moving ahead from the e-Golf to id.3
And they needed a lot more steps and cuts to get from the e-golf costs (subsidiarized by VW combustion platform) to id3.
You will recognice every tiny cut if you look carefully. The hood will have no hydraulic stand ... for example another 10€ part saved if you get a pure metal rod. Works great even in russian winter where the hydraulic one sucks.
What do you mean with that 'SOC trick'? Does the e-Golf actually works with ABRP? I mean live SOC via OBD ?
hallo grovelling vw rat, did you get the id. you know the one that looks like a very cheap fiat inside and the tech dont works saw review where the info screen froze for an hour, what a disaster, oh I just ordered a e golf yesterday, the mk 8
is stripped out and cheapend,
There is no Mark 8 eGolf, only Mark 7. ;)
@@BatteryLife no there isn’t but my local dealer has 5 7.1 in stock new,i never said it was a 8,dont put words into my mouth
das auto),no battery SOH, no battery temp, no state of charge.