Nick Sibicky Go Lecture #6 - MUST KNOW JOSEKI: 4-4
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2012
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An introduction to several of the most common 4-4 josekis that are played. This video is intended for any go player rated from 20k-1k. - Hry
(Commented for my own benefit later).
7:55 Keima
13:10 Ikken-Tobi
23:10 Tobi-Tsuke
30:50 Tsuke-Osae
34:30 Pincer
43:20 Pincer, one-space jump
52:35 Handicap joseki
"Why would you wanna play high?"
Because it feels good, man.
Good luck with that.
instaBlaster.
lmao
I never thought I'd live to see the day when Elvis plays go with Batman.
Anonymous - you ain't nothing but a hound dog... crying all the time!
Many thanks for the lecture !
Funny I've always thought of the "inside" as towards the tengen and outside towards the borders ..
I'm only about a month or so into studying/learning go and stumbled on some of your later videos. My theory is if I watch from the beginning, I'll be pretty freaking good by video 400 lol. Thank you for mentioning the books you've read too! Also to future Nick, buy Gamestop 🙃
as a 17k I learn so much on this video. Especially the 123 jump :)
As a 6k I also learnt a lot, including that! :)
if you are 17 kyu i would advice to study more on life and death problems and counting before going into josekis
@@yagzyalcntas553 I don't know, I find knowing a few simple josekis pretty useful. I'm also around that level and study life and death, but I'm glad I learned a few josekis too, even if I didn't need to yet. Here Nick explains why the moves are good, so I learn some reading too.
Yes! I learned 123 jump too!
Thank you for not only explaining the joseki but when to play it as well. 13k and learning !
Good lecture.
Thanks for sharing.
Great vids, u have a talent for teaching, thnx
As a 12k I found this video very helpful. Thank you very much.
Ah that wonderful innocent era when immediate 3-3 invasions weren't yet a thing!
Was this change in the meta caused by bots?
"Why would you wanna play high?" Do you really need to ask that nick?
This whole video reminds me of a proverb I read about, 'Learning Joseki Loses Two Stones Strength - Studying Joseki gains four stones strength.' My understanding is that it's not enough to know the sequence, a player must understand how the joseki will affect the overall board state afterwards. A sequence that say gives one player a corner in exchange for outside influence would be a bad idea if the player getting the influence has another stone fairly close by thereby massive potential for like less than ten points. It's all about context is what I'm getting from that proverb.
Elvis Presley vs. Batman.
Anonymous Anonymous
Lol
Who’s calling who stupid now?
2:30 : 1st series of joseki on 4-4.
_ 13:10 variation B. 1
_ 16:52 variation A.2
_ x:x variation B.2
_ 23:02 variation C.1
_ x:x variation C.2
_ 28:00 variation C.3
_ 30:43 variation C. 4
_ 33:45 variation D.1
_ x:x variation E
X:x : 2nd series of joseki on x-x.
_ x:x Variation B
X:x : 3rd series of joseki on x-x.
(I don't watch the vids in 1 time so let me times to complete my timer mark)
It is exactly the video I need right now, thanks a lot for doing it.
Any chance that you kept the sgf file and are willing to share it ?
I've learrned so much from this video that I lost two stones ;-)
You don't want to get Harraded! hahaha
Very nice little lecture, thanks! Does anyone know if there's some app or webpage where you can pick a joseki and turn off the play next feature? So that it will only show you when you failed. I like josekifarm but its not flexible enough, has too few settings and just randomizes the josekis to play.
Elvis against Batman ? what an epic match !
thanks
hey there Nick,
I really like your computer lectures and was wondering if you could do more?
oh and by the way the marker you use is a bit too hard to see for me. so if you plan on doing anymore (I hope you do) use a more contrasted marker color?
"Armpit hit" - love it
Use Axe or old spice when doing the Armpit hit! extra pts for freshness
Armpit hits are sumo moves. Learned that on the nhk lmao
35:41
Can anyone tell me why black can't just hane at P17 instead of extending at P16? It seems like it gives a better result for black.
more please.
Good video. I am a struggling 11k (online) and am not sure if I am on the level for joseki yet...
At 53:40 W won't be able to play at 3-3 if B go low on O-17. Right?
Have you considered doing a video for 3-4 josekis?
Around 31:30 : why don play at R-12? It don't allow black to play in R-13 and give more influence to right side of the board. And if black play S-14 we play on R-13.
I'm wondering how - in the diagonal attachment joseki - white would deal with black
- decending
- Attaching on the bottom ( followed by connecting if white hane)
- Invade the 3 space extension, possibly after playing the low enclosure
Seems like those should all be rather bad without a pincer, but this gets played a lot in the level of play this is aimed at. Even though the first two options are extremely gote, if one isn't good enaugh to just figure out how to deal with it properly, learning this joseki won't help.
At 11:18, why not just push further up into the corner and take away some space for black? So instead of white playing down you could play white S17?
Do you have any videos for beginners?
Ad Elvis.
I heard that the Korean Baduk school requires their students to be able to memorize about 20 different Joseki before they are allowed to call themselves 10 Kyu. Do you think that's too early for a go player to start on Joseki?
Korean ranks are really strong. 10k korean might be as strong as 5k elsewhere
is there anything for 1 dan?
In chess tempo is the same as senki
Does anybody know which programm he is using?
Not sure if you've figured it out by now but it's called CGOBAN 3. You can download it off of the KGS website and it allows you to play on the KGS servers, save games and edit them in the form of .sgf files. You can also download .sgf files off of other sites to take a look at games.
doesn't a joseki work only if the opponent also know how to play it ?
Joseki are the theoretical optimal efficiency moves in those situations, so if your opponent doesn't know how to play it and you understand why those moves are played you can bully then a little
Would've prefered to see the Elvis vs. Batman match instead of watching a joseki lecture :P
its pronounced Jo-ou-se-ki my ears ffs...but nevermind :P
EPIC FAIL on utilizing amazing software in this video. Lecture could have been GREAT, if Mr. Sibicky had properly used the software and had games already set up. He could have precisely shown many different variations in the same time, rather than using up a lot of time making the games. Not to take anything away from Mr. Sibicky and his great videos, just some constructive criticism.