There are literally horses starving to death and being abused yet people complain about this horse "abuse"? this horse looks to be in perfect condition and has been treated and schooled well. The horse loves to jump and would refuse if it didnt want to jump
I agree, those people just don't know about horses, probably just assuming the horse hates it. The horse is in perfect shape and looks beautiful. It actually enjoys jumping!
How the hell is this horse being abused? Its called free jumping, and theres nothing wrong with it. Theyre not whipping or smaking it are they. It looks like a beautiful horse that has been broken nicely with an outstanding jump. So all of you that are saying that this is animal abuse, then shutup.
Oky I've watched this vid now carefully after reading all the comments 1. this horse is not scared just excited. 2. If the horse was abused by the handlers, it will not and never will stand still for the handlers to come and catch it and most defiantly won't move towards the handlers.(I have retrained more abused horses than I can count, I know what a scared horse do and I know there is no way of teaching them how not to do it, if you don't go back to basic training and teaching the horse to trust again in you and then it goes back to the abuse story for a horse will never trust you if you abuse it.) 3. some horses jump higher with riders on their backs than this horse did while free jumping. 4. Horses jumping with riders carry a heavier load so the chances of injury is higher than a horse doing free jumping. 5. the escape routes were valid escape routes without anybody or anything stopping the horse from taking them. (really people if horse doesn't want to do something it won't do it!!!!! It will even run over a person standing with a whip if it didn't want to do it!!) 6. Horses can look were they are going with their ears backward. The ears are just a indication of mood and were the horse is consecrating. Back turned ears don't mean the horse is scared or aggressive it just means the horse is listening or concentrating on something behind him and trust me the horse can still run and move forward with back turned ears. Ears that are flat against the head is a sign of distress or just plain bad temperateness. Please people get your facts in line before you say things.
I loved how you could tell he really wanted to jump, and most people don't realize horses actually have fun jumping, so seeing him prick his ears, and get all prance because he was excited made me happy!!
WildFire the Skywing There is absolutely NO science to support the notion that horses "really want to jump". Horses find stimuli either rewarding, neutral or aversive. What part of repetitively jumping over ever heightening jumps, under pressure and being coerced with whips and spurs, would you think horses find rewarding? If you can answer me in scientific, rather than emotive terms, so much the better.
The Horse did NOT almost fall on the 3rd jump on the 3rd round guys, horses naturally lower their head after a jump. A horse won't jump something if they don't want to.....so stop hating please. Most of you commenting that don't even ride horses so you have no right to comment something you have no knowledge about.....
victoria Rice I have a Masters in neuroscience and I'm a GP rider. If you think that this is an example of a horse naturally lowering its head, then perhaps you're the one who is not knowledgeable about horses.
I don’t like the saying, “If a horse doesn’t want to ___ it wouldn’t do it.” Horses are trained from the very beginning to do what their rider tells them. They’re trained to accept tack, trained to accept and give in to pressure, train to do dozens of different moves on cue. Do they actually want to do those things? Is there any enjoyment in it for them? Who knows. This horse was trained to jump like this, as were all other eventers/show jumpers. Heck, for a lot of horses in the show industry, they’ll be “disciplined” (smacked with a crop) when they refuse a jump or mess up whatever it was their rider told them to do. Barrel racers say horses love running barrels, and jockeys say horses love racing, and yet throughout most of those races we see an excessive use of crops (and spurs and reins in barrel racing. Starfishing is painfully common). A lot of jumpers say their horses love jumping and would throw them off or refuse if they didn’t want to, and yet it’s common teaching in eventing/show jumping/what have you that if a horse refuses a jump, you put them back in front of it and smack them or seesaw the reins to “discipline” them. Note: I don’t doubt that there are horses out there that genuinely enjoy things like this to an extent, but we can’t force our ideas of what they like onto them as we have no way of truly knowing. Horses accept tack after training, but do we know if they actually like tack? Do riders ever claim that their horses love their saddle or their bridle?
I love how much he seems to enjoy the jumping. He looks so eager to go again! Looks back at the jumps, looks at the people coming to get him, looks at the jumps, etc. Ears pricked, floating gait. Nice to see a happy athlete!
Judith Graves I'm not completely sure, but if it's anything like the horse shows i participate in, usually there's a small unofficial rule where you praise the horse once they're finished and walk out of the arena. It might be because some horses think that if you pat them, they are done working and they might try to leave the arena. Now, I don't know about what happens in this case, this is just my best guess. For my shows, we make sure to give the horses lots of praise and treats for their hard work after they are ridden. I hope that's the case for this horse.
1. Horses find patting aversive. 2. For horses to associate reward with action the action must follow the reward within a maximum of 15 seconds. 3. There is NO unofficial or official rule about rewarding behaviours, their frequency or mature, in any FEI rule book.
If that horse did not want to jump, he/she has at least 3 escape routes on that sort jump course. Her eyes are soft, ears forward, or flicking about in alertness. Any horseman can see that horse enjoys this little exercise.
Yes there are gaps! But oh look there's people stood there with long whips! That horse is fricken petrified, it's flinching at every sound! If u cared about horses then you would see that the horse is scared!
omg im laughing so hard^^ the horse is not scared and they arent whipping him :') you need to learn a bit more about horses hun haha look at his body language he is totally relaxed. if the horse didnt wanna jump he wouldnt. poor child.
Not really! A horse which is scared will do what them people ask as it doesn't want to get hurt! It's body language is true signs of it being scared! It's skittish and jumpy which are obvious signs which any true horseman would notice! People who don't obviously are only in the equine world to win rosettes and stuff not for the fun of working and bonding with the horse!
x NewForestieee x Sorry but the horse it's not scared here. He had a lot of escape routes to use and he didn't try to run away from it. He could even refuse the jumps if he wanted to. His body language demostrates that he is relaxed and/or concentrated!
Your horse has a beautiful shape in its jump. He has a nice distance as well. A thing I saw in your video that I don’t see in many free jumping shows is that your striding was perfectly accurate. Well done
This sounds like a sale or a verband test. It's not a show but a demonstration of the horse's ability over fences. It's not abuse! If you think that little guy could "force" this animal to do something he doesn't want to, you're dreaming! This one can come home with me... look at that back end!!! (not the guy)
It's not hard if you take the time & make the effort to build a relationship with any animal.... same kind of thing with dogs... cats.... it's just that some people don't take the time to "get it"...😳🙄🥴
Horses either like to jump or they don't. If they don't, they absolutely WON'T! The horse did NOT almost fall after the 3rd jump on the 3rd round. A horse's head will naturally lower like that when the hindquarters are high up in order to balance itself and keep from falling. People who know nothing about horses should refrain from commenting.
My 1st day on a horse, 10 students in small ring, learning to post, I kept being yelled at to keep my horse to the outside. He kept heading to the center, and then he ran across the ring, jumped the fence, crossed the road and jumped another fence downhill around pasture. The instructor kept yelling at me to get off. Somehow I slid off, and later found that he had just been bred to the mare in the field. I can't believe to this day that I stayed on. It happened so fast.
Colleen Watson So, by that logic, whips and spurs would be totally useless because if horses only jumped when they wanted to, the coercive implements wouldn't work, no?
There is a lot of comments saying this is animal abuse, and actually it is not. Horses are built to jump like this, and if they do it a lot -most likely this one does- of course they can do it with no problem. Do you expect a horse to just stay in a paddock, or stall and do nothing? No, plus, if the horse didn't want to jump it probably would have stopped before the jump. You ever see people that aren't hurt, or never have been injured? It is because they don't do anything, like a sport, or activity. They probably just sit around and do nothing for the sake of not getting hurt. In my opinion, that is not fun at all. I'd rather do a sport and get hurt, then doing nothing with life. Same goes for horses, they aren't going to waist their lives in a small stall. This horse is beautiful, and incredible and probably enjoys what it does.
Exactly. Horses aren't made to be pampered and brushed in a tiny stall their whole lives. They're meant for jumping, barrel racing, reining, pulling carts, you name it. And most horses enjoy what they do. The horse I ride, she tries to head for the nearest jump every time we canter around the arena because she loves what she does. Horses enjoy getting out and doing something, not sitting around in the pasture all day.
I don't thinking all horses enjoy their jobs. i think horses like to think and like to work, but many of the sports we put them in are more a show of obedience rather than them loving it. Horses do like to exercise naturally though (not horse racing). I think your horse is so used to her job that she automatically does it. As of right now there is no way to be certain whether a horse enjoy it's work in the same way we do. Horses entertain themselves just fine with other horses in pasture; it's being stuck in a stall that is horrible. When they are not working they should be out in pasture even though they will, god forbid, get dirty.
To those who say this is horse abuse. Seriously? At least know what you are talking about before you post it on CZcams. I've rehabilitated horses (at a horse rescue) that had both physical and mental issues. This is not horse abuse. I've had horses pin their ears back and bite when you go to touch them. As for the whip, it never actually touches the horse here. It is simply used as an extension of the arm. However it can be used incorrectly. The body language of the horse says he is happy and more than willing jump those. These jumps are not that high for a horse, yes he did click one in the video. But you occasionally trip on something when stepping/jumping over it. Now for the last thing yes it causes wear and tear on the joints after very long periods of time (years and years). But at the same time it also strengthens the bone and muscle in the process. Using repeated actions to build both. The same reason why doctors tell kids to get out and play, simply to strengthen the bones to help prevent from brittle bone diseases. Honestly this horse enjoys jumping and it looks like one of the best ways to exercise him because he loves doing it.
No one...NO ONE (using any equipment)...can force any horse to jump this freely...softly... without the actual WILLINGNESS & cooperation of the horse. As with people... success is not based solely on a talent to do a job but has to include a joy in doing it. People who ride horses know this, and successful competition depends solely on find that 'right' horse who is HAPPY with his job. Those horses who show only talent or ability but who are not happy or willing move on to other jobs such as... Dressage... English Pleasure... Trail riding... etc. A successful horse (in any job) is a happy horse in is work which is the goal of any trainer, owner, rider. And there are not many of those involved with horses today that do not put the welfare (body & mind) of the horse as #1 priority. WE LOVE our horses. As with any sport (be it Football, Hockey, Car Racing, 3-Day Event., Horse Racing...) no sport activity is ever without some risk. But unless you KNOW the training it takes...the precautions taken... & the care involved...don't make value judgements based on ignorance. This free jump performance was beautiful, almost elegant, athletically sound... congratulations.🐴🤗🤗❤️🇺🇸
these people hold him back so much... why can't they release him sooner? first, they pull him to the left and when they let go, he has about one stride before the first jump
Are you kidding me? This horse is looking for an escape. If you see the people trying to wave it on with whips then you'll understand. This is extremely unnatural for a horses legs.
3nomadic gypsies They don't jump to this extent, it's mostly just a hop over. They only jump when needs be, if there's another way around they will take it. Horses tend to live on flat terrain anyway seeing as they don't have the footing for hilly or rocky areas, so it would be rare for them to jump. Most horses do not have the strength to jump over such ridiculous heights because they don't need to. It's just humans wanting to win money and trophies by abusing an animal
3nomadic gypsies But jumping at a height such as what this horse is doing is ok? All its weight being forced onto it's front legs which is only supposed to support half weight? Because this horse would have gained a lot of momentum there would be a lot of force when it comes to landing.
Lemon Trickle Just because it's unnatural does not mean it's abusing. For example - my horse enjoys jumping - on arena, on terrain, whatever.. I don't need any whip to get her on jump, I just let her go and she'll jump almost everything. I don't need commons, just show her jump and she get her ears up, get in higher speed and jump it. You think I am abusing her? She enjoys it even if it's unnatural to carry a rider for her.
Reading all the comments about how this is horse abuse makes me laugh, they obviously don't understand horse body language. I don't see any tail cranking, ear pinning, or the horse refusing... As long as the horse is warmed up, and cooled out well and this isn't done on a daily basis, it will cause no problems. There are grand Prix jumpers and horses at Rolex who are 19years old, this isn't going to "ruin" the horse. I wish people could just accept the video for what it is, it's a gorgeous horse with an incredibly beautiful and scopey jump!
A message to all the haters: This is not animal abuse. If the horse didn't want to jump, it would simply just stop in front of the fence. Horses can jump very high without any problems. They would do it in the wild, they can do it in a show ring. Simple as that
@@teddybear5788 did you train them from backing them? Do you know what the previous owners/breeders did to them when they were babies (if there was a previous owner)?
@@teddybear5788 and if what you say is true, then that is down to training, your training, if you don't train the horse to calm tf down and listen, then they will continue with these incredibly bad habits
this ain't abuse.free jumping has been around for ages.every horse has a mind of its own and if this horse didn't want to jump he wouldn't.but horses love nothing more than to roam freely over a jump.
Could be jumping outbof obedience and loyalty, a lot of animals do that. Though I gotta say, this horse does look like he enjoys it. And having a bit and flash aren't exactly needed...also, I can think of a lot of thongs most horses would enjoy more
He is stunning. I love horses that make their jobs look easy, he certainly does. And that back kick on the top side of the jump is to die for! Horses that love their jobs are always treasures, talent is a plus ;)
What is it with all these ABUSE comments? I mean really, if you want to comment, just know something about the sport! That horse looks relaxed as hell he LOVES jumping them and, at 2:39 he tried to go back for more!
I watched many videos of Klaus Hempfling establishing rapport with all sorts of horses with challenging behavior. He always held the lead with an open hand and the lead always drooped - it was never tight. And the horses he worked with followed willingly - even rested their heads against his! Seeing the short lead and utter disrespect these handlers have when working with this horse is quite a shock. There is a better way!
This is something totally different compared to someone leading a horse on a loose lead. This short lead is just for safety. They need to be able to release the horse quick without risking any entanglement. It has nothing to do with disrespect. When the horse enters the arena, a full lenght lead (possibly reins) is on.
My Pony jumped over a hedge that was bigger than him (shetland crossbreed) when he was 2. And he never jumped anything before, since he was too young back then. Today he's nearly 5 and even though I let him jump sometimes, he never tried the fencing again. I guess he figuered out that it's easier to just stay on the ground when there's no human around to make him jump xD
Horses are herd animals, if their buddies are in one pasture, they'll likely stay in that one. However, even if a horse isn't trained to jump professionally, you'll still have horses jumping the fences for fun.
this boy has a future in eventing! look at that form! those floating paces! he really is quite the horse and he has a wonderful conformation. i would definitly buy him and train him if i could. i would love to see him after hes trained. mark my words, he will be a force to be reckoned with!
Wow. I'm super impressed. Especially the high kick back. I doubt he'll ever take a rail with his back legs. In general his hind end has lots of flexion.
Just how is this abuse ? This horse is obviously well cared for, healthy & fit. He is bred to jump & clearly he can easily jump much higher than the jump. The horse is not being pushed to his physical linitations...& isnt even tired. Explain what part of this video is abuse. *TROLLS* you have nothing better to do w/ur time.
These horses have been bred, trained & physically conditioned by professionals for years. The likely hood of one dropping dead of heart attack would be a very rare occurence. The competitions like this r held to ensure that a high quality of breed standard is maintained. Faults r penalized & therefore low scoring horses r not breeding material. Such horses as in this video most likely had "many" physical examinations by a vet @ various points in their lives for health & competition reasons. To travel to competition they need a clean bill of health certificate. In addition Horses have a huge capacity for endurance naturally built w/incredibly strong heart & lungs capacity that can endure galloping & jumping @ various speeds for miles. Its rare that a horse is born w/heart or lung problems. If a horse had a noticeable heart problem the trainer would notice @ some point. If a foal was born w/a heart or lung problem it wouldn't grow, play, eat & thrive like normal babies. If a horse had an undetectable heart condition...then yes it could die under strenuous activity. This would b a very rare occassion to happen in horses... even more rare an occurence than a person in professional sport having a fatal heart problem while competing. If a horse had a problem...It could have a fatal heart issue as easily (in competition as running around playn in a field) @home. I've competed & been to event like this all my life & nvr saw a horse die of a heart condition.
I'm not sure how this is abusive either. If anything, this is way more humane than many horse sports. I just hope the horse doesn't just live in a stall though. That is true cruelty to me. Horses, no matter what breed, need to spend most of their time in pasture when they aren't working.
These are test of athletic ability for registration and have scores that can be compared for breeding. There are many other tests, including conformation that list them as "approved". I think it's very good and wish we did this in the states.
Yellow are saying 'she's jolting the lead' it's only because the horse might be going to fast or it might run over her, she's only doing it to slow him down. Yes I understand i will hurt if she jolts it hard but it didn't look like it she was only telling him too go steadier. Its only my opinion in what I see
People saying that it is animal abuse, and that the horse shouldn't have a bit, The horse is wearing a bridle with the reins taken off And what part of this video is abuse?? If the horse didn't want to jump it wouldn't!
Horses are obedient to their leaders so using the word "want" is a little controversial. They are herd animals that live in a hierarchy. I also do not see why the horse would need a bit for this. Maybe it was for looks.
He or she was good, though they should have trained him in more basic ground work first like following people without going ahead of them and things like that
AnimalLifestyle ......this horse was trained very well and people can't always keep up with a trotting horse it isn't acting up or anything he's doing his job.
Leslie Baptist Mein Güte wann lernt ihr endlich dass ein nicht zu eng verschnallter Sperriemen nicht schlimm ist? Außerdem gehört er dazu bei solchen Anlässen da kann man nunmal nicht mit Knotenhalfter aufkreuzen. Und zugeschnürt werden sie ihn wohl nicht haben bringt ihnen ja nichts Zügel sind keine dran
ok, ive watched this video few times, in a row, and read the comments. for all the ***horsemen and horsewomen** here that say that : this horse enjoy his work ill say : BULLSHIT ! this IS horse abuse, by making it jump that high, soon she'll have no legs... but her ears are foward ... no shit.... she need to look where she go because she have no other option than jump ... but some people said she had excape routes? watch carefully ... there is 2 opening inbetween the jumps... and PEOPLE ARE STANDING IN IT WITH WHIPS! but she stop after the jumps.... because its a closed area and she have no where to go... she never walked to ge see the human, she just stayed there after the jump prancing and twitching at every little sound... that horse is nervous from the 1st second of the video, she tried to avoid the jump from the first time she sees it with no poles... the handeler can barely take off the reins as she move so much .... she have her head high, she is prancing , twitching .. even walking away from one of the handeler (oh but the video have been cut there ? ) and when they come to catch her she does have a movement to get away and they need to pull to make her follow... how is all that JOY and FUN and HAPPYNESS ... you see what you want to see, and sometimes people that know nothing about horses are more accurate because they do not have all that : oh but that is normal behaviour , crap... because its not.... normal behaviour... i would beleive that horse like to jump that high... if you let her lose in the arena, with nobody to persuade her to jump, with a set a jump and no instruction... and that she would freely go there and jump it for no reason... that would be a horse that, for me, enjoy its work... otherwise, that is pure abuse...
This really isn't abuse, though. She's prancing around because she's got energy. Her ears aren't forward because she needs to see where she's going - horses can see perfectly fine without their ears. Her expression and body language would look a lot different if she was upset or unwilling. She's forward in her jumps and has plenty of opportunity to refuse. As for her legs, as long as she is properly warmed up, cooled down, and groomed, they won't give out. Jumpers tend to have careers spanning into their teens, and from there they retire and spend another 10 - 15 years teaching and in pasture. If you were to google horse abuse, most of the pictures that come up would probably be of emaciated horses with overgrown hoofs, festering wounds, and a bad case of mange. The mare in this video is NOT abused.
Foreverandalwaysx1 well maybe you and me have different vision about what is horse abuse. if i tell you a kid is abused, you would answer me, well, as long as he has food, and a roof he is not really abused, lok he have no hit marks., and there are kids in africa dying from malnutrition... well... maybe, but that doesnt change what i see .... and you are right, there is worst. as for the legs , maybe you and me do not go around same jumping horses, because here i see alot of : oh she's perfectly willing to jump, but she need her 2 injections / year... oh she's ok to jump, we've got her nerves cut so she does not feel the pain ... a horse can live up to 50 years, but his career end when he is around 15 ... that mean good care and very good for the body?! n-way if you enjoy it and you see no problem with that, do so, im not here to change your mind... i made my point, and from what i see im not the only one ?!
Ears pinned means she's hating it. Infact, go to any Hunt class and if your horse has its ears pinned you will be docked marks. She doesn't need her ears pointing forward to see where she's going, thats what eyes are for. You have a picture of a horse as your profile/icon whatever but seem to know jack shit about horses.
S Genesis HAHAHAHAHA you just made my day . so my point got into you so damn hard that you need to come here and insult me personally for that ? as for the ears, because that seem to be the main problems here, i know horses dont see with their ears hahahahahah , maybe i've used a wrong way to say what i wanted (sometimes happens when you do not used your 1st language) but ears are sign of attention ... and she have her attention fully in front of her... the jump is so big .... well if i had to jump something very high, i wouldn't pay attention to anything else other than what's coming up ... and it does not mean i would like it. and that horse is foward?!? how many training hours has been put un that horse, please tell me ?!
mili morin It's not that clear cut. You can't tell if a child is abused from their physical state, but horses communicate their mental state very well through physical interaction. I won't pretend to know how Flying Fire in particular is treated because I've only seen videos of him in the show ring, but I CAN tell you that a horse who is so fit and easy to handle has likely had a generous upbringing. And while I won't deny that there are some unsavory practices to keep a horse competing longer, it's not exactly popular in the show jumping world. Performance enhancing drugs and treatments are more common in horse racing (and parts of the equine community are working to outlaw and enforce said practices). And FYI, horses do not live for 50 years. The oldest horse I've ever met was 31, and that's relatively uncommon. Most horses pass on between the ages of 25 and 30, regardless of their careers and treatment.
I see sometimes the horses jump high because they are made to remember the pain inflicted if they do not lift their legs clear...so many things people do for money in horses world...just checking
Of course we can’t know how they train every horse there but with my mare when we did this, there wasn’t any pain or punishment involved she absolutely loved jumping, I started training her since she was young and since she was a foal she’d already jump and just be a little eggnut so it doesn’t always involve forcing some people still respect their horse
Tis a perfectly normal freestyle competion and a well presented horse, shown to professional German standards. I simply do not understand all these "knowledgable" remarks about cruelty, terrified horse, etc. Such nonsense, simply by watching this video?!
I've only seen this used to evaluate non-jumpers for the jumper ring (youngsters or off the track horses) and for breed inspections. I didn't know that they actually just had competitions too. Interesting. I bought my grand prix jumper off the track this way. Couldn't run to save his life and no one wanted to risk their life getting on him when we went to see him but boy could he jump.
If any of you know horse body language then you would realize this isn't abuse! This horse obviously loves it's job! Look at the ears and tail, IT IS HAPPY. If it wasn't it would show it.
There are literally horses starving to death and being abused yet people complain about this horse "abuse"? this horse looks to be in perfect condition and has been treated and schooled well. The horse loves to jump and would refuse if it didnt want to jump
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I agree, those people just don't know about horses, probably just assuming the horse hates it. The horse is in perfect shape and looks beautiful. It actually enjoys jumping!
Yeah, tell that to the comment above you... Its quite annoying how they call jumping abuse.
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How the hell is this horse being abused? Its called free jumping, and theres nothing wrong with it. Theyre not whipping or smaking it are they. It looks like a beautiful horse that has been broken nicely with an outstanding jump. So all of you that are saying that this is animal abuse, then shutup.
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And what makes you think it's been whipped?
I love how he's not bothered at all, no matter what height the jump's are on!
I love how when he's done jumping, he just stops and looks around like "okay, I did my job.. you can come get me again" lol
Oky I've watched this vid now carefully after reading all the comments
1. this horse is not scared just excited.
2. If the horse was abused by the handlers, it will not and never will stand still for the handlers to come and catch it and most defiantly won't move towards the handlers.(I have retrained more abused horses than I can count, I know what a scared horse do and I know there is no way of teaching them how not to do it, if you don't go back to basic training and teaching the horse to trust again in you and then it goes back to the abuse story for a horse will never trust you if you abuse it.)
3. some horses jump higher with riders on their backs than this horse did while free jumping.
4. Horses jumping with riders carry a heavier load so the chances of injury is higher than a horse doing free jumping.
5. the escape routes were valid escape routes without anybody or anything stopping the horse from taking them. (really people if horse doesn't want to do something it won't do it!!!!! It will even run over a person standing with a whip if it didn't want to do it!!)
6. Horses can look were they are going with their ears backward. The ears are just a indication of mood and were the horse is consecrating. Back turned ears don't mean the horse is scared or aggressive it just means the horse is listening or concentrating on something behind him and trust me the horse can still run and move forward with back turned ears. Ears that are flat against the head is a sign of distress or just plain bad temperateness.
Please people get your facts in line before you say things.
I loved how you could tell he really wanted to jump, and most people don't realize horses actually have fun jumping, so seeing him prick his ears, and get all prance because he was excited made me happy!!
WildFire the Skywing There is absolutely NO science to support the notion that horses "really want to jump". Horses find stimuli either rewarding, neutral or aversive. What part of repetitively jumping over ever heightening jumps, under pressure and being coerced with whips and spurs, would you think horses find rewarding?
If you can answer me in scientific, rather than emotive terms, so much the better.
He has such a beautiful floating gait! And he jumps do smoothly, he is truly a wonderful horse.
Ikr! I wonder what it would be like riding him while he was jumping so smoothly!
I love this, the horse truly looks like he's enjoying what he's doing!
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Majessica And how do you know that the horse enjoys what he's doing? Did he tell you? And if told you, in what language did he speak?
Of course he told me, how else would I know? He speaks Russian.
Majessica Ah, that must be why I can't understand when he tells me he's miserable jumping.
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The Horse did NOT almost fall on the 3rd jump on the 3rd round guys, horses naturally lower their head after a jump. A horse won't jump something if they don't want to.....so stop hating please. Most of you commenting that don't even ride horses so you have no right to comment something you have no knowledge about.....
victoria Rice I have a Masters in neuroscience and I'm a GP rider. If you think that this is an example of a horse naturally lowering its head, then perhaps you're the one who is not knowledgeable about horses.
I don’t like the saying, “If a horse doesn’t want to ___ it wouldn’t do it.” Horses are trained from the very beginning to do what their rider tells them. They’re trained to accept tack, trained to accept and give in to pressure, train to do dozens of different moves on cue. Do they actually want to do those things? Is there any enjoyment in it for them? Who knows. This horse was trained to jump like this, as were all other eventers/show jumpers. Heck, for a lot of horses in the show industry, they’ll be “disciplined” (smacked with a crop) when they refuse a jump or mess up whatever it was their rider told them to do. Barrel racers say horses love running barrels, and jockeys say horses love racing, and yet throughout most of those races we see an excessive use of crops (and spurs and reins in barrel racing. Starfishing is painfully common). A lot of jumpers say their horses love jumping and would throw them off or refuse if they didn’t want to, and yet it’s common teaching in eventing/show jumping/what have you that if a horse refuses a jump, you put them back in front of it and smack them or seesaw the reins to “discipline” them.
Note: I don’t doubt that there are horses out there that genuinely enjoy things like this to an extent, but we can’t force our ideas of what they like onto them as we have no way of truly knowing. Horses accept tack after training, but do we know if they actually like tack? Do riders ever claim that their horses love their saddle or their bridle?
@victoriarice9356
You're absolutely right about that it's a natural reaction for horses to lower their heads after they jup
that beautiful creature doesn't even look challenged. well done or should i say , easily done
That horse knows exactly when to start and stop
I love at 4:07 he’s just chilling like “ok... one of you gonna come get me or...?”
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I wish my horse did that
I love how much he seems to enjoy the jumping. He looks so eager to go again! Looks back at the jumps, looks at the people coming to get him, looks at the jumps, etc. Ears pricked, floating gait. Nice to see a happy athlete!
What a lovely, athletic horse - why in the world did not one of the handlers give him a pat and say "good boy"?
Judith Graves I'm not completely sure, but if it's anything like the horse shows i participate in, usually there's a small unofficial rule where you praise the horse once they're finished and walk out of the arena. It might be because some horses think that if you pat them, they are done working and they might try to leave the arena. Now, I don't know about what happens in this case, this is just my best guess. For my shows, we make sure to give the horses lots of praise and treats for their hard work after they are ridden. I hope that's the case for this horse.
Thank you for enlightening me.
1. Horses find patting aversive.
2. For horses to associate reward with action the action must follow the reward within a maximum of 15 seconds.
3. There is NO unofficial or official rule about rewarding behaviours, their frequency or mature, in any FEI rule book.
This horse is clearly enjoying himself.. Don't understand why they're so mad. Look at his ears! Pricked forwards
im glad nobody was clapping and screaming when he did the big jump. I hate it when people do that. the horses get so overwhelmed...
He's so scope-y when he jumps, and that gait, I bet he's a dream to ride
2020 someone?
Gacha_ Fluff yep
Yup
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Gacha_ Fluff no, 2090
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The horse waited for the people to get him every time he finished
no
He looked so excited and happy!
WHO LOVES HORSES PUT THUMBS UP!!
They all took your advice and put thumbs up on video☺️
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If that horse did not want to jump, he/she has at least 3 escape routes on that sort jump course. Her eyes are soft, ears forward, or flicking about in alertness. Any horseman can see that horse enjoys this little exercise.
Yes there are gaps! But oh look there's people stood there with long whips! That horse is fricken petrified, it's flinching at every sound! If u cared about horses then you would see that the horse is scared!
omg im laughing so hard^^ the horse is not scared and they arent whipping him :') you need to learn a bit more about horses hun haha look at his body language he is totally relaxed. if the horse didnt wanna jump he wouldnt. poor child.
Not really! A horse which is scared will do what them people ask as it doesn't want to get hurt! It's body language is true signs of it being scared! It's skittish and jumpy which are obvious signs which any true horseman would notice! People who don't obviously are only in the equine world to win rosettes and stuff not for the fun of working and bonding with the horse!
x NewForestieee x Sorry but the horse it's not scared here. He had a lot of escape routes to use and he didn't try to run away from it. He could even refuse the jumps if he wanted to. His body language demostrates that he is relaxed and/or concentrated!
x NewForestieee x horse looks fine and confident to me
Adorable 'velcro' horse. Looks for the human. I love the free jumps. So effortless.
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That is very interesting. The horse is. beautiful, alert and orientated and obviously enjoying the occasion. Thank You.
Your horse has a beautiful shape in its jump. He has a nice distance as well. A thing I saw in your video that I don’t see in many free jumping shows is that your striding was perfectly accurate. Well done
You're just a little miss know it all now aren't you
This sounds like a sale or a verband test. It's not a show but a demonstration of the horse's ability over fences. It's not abuse! If you think that little guy could "force" this animal to do something he doesn't want to, you're dreaming! This one can come home with me... look at that back end!!! (not the guy)
I love how all these humans know what it feels like to be a horse😂
It's not hard if you take the time & make the effort to build a relationship with any animal....
same kind of thing with dogs...
cats.... it's just that some people don't take the time to "get it"...😳🙄🥴
Beautiful horse, beautiful jumping, beautiful bend! I just loved this video!
Horses either like to jump or they don't. If they don't, they absolutely WON'T! The horse did NOT almost fall after the 3rd jump on the 3rd round. A horse's head will naturally lower like that when the hindquarters are high up in order to balance itself and keep from falling. People who know nothing about horses should refrain from commenting.
My 1st day on a horse, 10 students in small ring, learning to post, I kept being yelled at to keep my horse to the outside. He kept heading to the center, and then he ran across the ring, jumped the fence, crossed the road and jumped another fence downhill around pasture. The instructor kept yelling at me to get off. Somehow I slid off, and later found that he had just been bred to the mare in the field. I can't believe to this day that I stayed on. It happened so fast.
Colleen Watson So, by that logic, whips and spurs would be totally useless because if horses only jumped when they wanted to, the coercive implements wouldn't work, no?
I just noticed it's German... and I am German... but I understood nothing😂
erstmal was geht armyyyy und zweitens deutsche sprache schwere sprache XD
@@Lil7lee jep stimmt
Ok über deinen Namen werden wir uns jz Mal nicht unterhalten
Then you arent german.
That would explain why the subtitles are off, guess I'll need to watch this again with the sound ot at some point
4:10 the horse is like... "Hey, are we done? Should i run back and jump again? Nah. Dude, i want candy."
There is a lot of comments saying this is animal abuse, and actually it is not. Horses are built to jump like this, and if they do it a lot -most likely this one does- of course they can do it with no problem. Do you expect a horse to just stay in a paddock, or stall and do nothing? No, plus, if the horse didn't want to jump it probably would have stopped before the jump. You ever see people that aren't hurt, or never have been injured? It is because they don't do anything, like a sport, or activity. They probably just sit around and do nothing for the sake of not getting hurt. In my opinion, that is not fun at all. I'd rather do a sport and get hurt, then doing nothing with life. Same goes for horses, they aren't going to waist their lives in a small stall. This horse is beautiful, and incredible and probably enjoys what it does.
oi
Magnificent horse, how can anyone say this is abuse. That's nonsense.
I agree with you
Exactly. Horses aren't made to be pampered and brushed in a tiny stall their whole lives. They're meant for jumping, barrel racing, reining, pulling carts, you name it. And most horses enjoy what they do. The horse I ride, she tries to head for the nearest jump every time we canter around the arena because she loves what she does. Horses enjoy getting out and doing something, not sitting around in the pasture all day.
I don't thinking all horses enjoy their jobs. i think horses like to think and like to work, but many of the sports we put them in are more a show of obedience rather than them loving it. Horses do like to exercise naturally though (not horse racing). I think your horse is so used to her job that she automatically does it. As of right now there is no way to be certain whether a horse enjoy it's work in the same way we do. Horses entertain themselves just fine with other horses in pasture; it's being stuck in a stall that is horrible. When they are not working they should be out in pasture even though they will, god forbid, get dirty.
What a lovely jumper! Smooth as silk, cautious and calm- everything you’d like to have in a jumper
To those who say this is horse abuse. Seriously? At least know what you are talking about before you post it on CZcams. I've rehabilitated horses (at a horse rescue) that had both physical and mental issues. This is not horse abuse. I've had horses pin their ears back and bite when you go to touch them. As for the whip, it never actually touches the horse here. It is simply used as an extension of the arm. However it can be used incorrectly. The body language of the horse says he is happy and more than willing jump those. These jumps are not that high for a horse, yes he did click one in the video. But you occasionally trip on something when stepping/jumping over it. Now for the last thing yes it causes wear and tear on the joints after very long periods of time (years and years). But at the same time it also strengthens the bone and muscle in the process. Using repeated actions to build both. The same reason why doctors tell kids to get out and play, simply to strengthen the bones to help prevent from brittle bone diseases. Honestly this horse enjoys jumping and it looks like one of the best ways to exercise him because he loves doing it.
such a beauty and really talented
Awww -- he was so enthusiastic! He looked disappointed when he came to the end of the chute.
The gait on that horse! Looks like he’s floating when he trots.
libby phillips you'll float too
No Name 🎈🎈🎈🎈
No one...NO ONE (using any equipment)...can force any horse to jump this freely...softly... without the actual WILLINGNESS & cooperation of the horse. As with people... success is not based solely on a talent to do a job but has to include a joy in doing it. People who ride horses know this, and successful competition depends solely on find that 'right' horse who is HAPPY with his job. Those horses who show only talent or ability but who are not happy or willing move on to other jobs such as... Dressage... English Pleasure... Trail riding... etc. A successful horse (in any job) is a happy horse in is work which is the goal of any trainer, owner, rider. And there are not many of those involved with horses today that do not put the welfare (body & mind) of the horse as #1 priority. WE LOVE our horses. As with any sport (be it Football,
Hockey, Car Racing, 3-Day Event.,
Horse Racing...) no sport activity is ever without some risk. But unless you KNOW the training it takes...the precautions taken...
& the care involved...don't make value judgements based on ignorance. This free jump performance was beautiful, almost elegant, athletically sound... congratulations.🐴🤗🤗❤️🇺🇸
Well said. I appreciate the time you took to share this knowledge and understanding of horses and the trainers/owners.
these people hold him back so much... why can't they release him sooner? first, they pull him to the left and when they let go, he has about one stride before the first jump
Violet illiems Because they're mostly incompetent horse handlers.
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This horse love it and that's one of reasons why it looks so beautiful.
Are you kidding me? This horse is looking for an escape. If you see the people trying to wave it on with whips then you'll understand. This is extremely unnatural for a horses legs.
3nomadic gypsies They don't jump to this extent, it's mostly just a hop over. They only jump when needs be, if there's another way around they will take it. Horses tend to live on flat terrain anyway seeing as they don't have the footing for hilly or rocky areas, so it would be rare for them to jump. Most horses do not have the strength to jump over such ridiculous heights because they don't need to. It's just humans wanting to win money and trophies by abusing an animal
3nomadic gypsies But jumping at a height such as what this horse is doing is ok? All its weight being forced onto it's front legs which is only supposed to support half weight? Because this horse would have gained a lot of momentum there would be a lot of force when it comes to landing.
Lemon Trickle Just because it's unnatural does not mean it's abusing.
For example - my horse enjoys jumping - on arena, on terrain, whatever.. I don't need any whip to get her on jump, I just let her go and she'll jump almost everything. I don't need commons, just show her jump and she get her ears up, get in higher speed and jump it.
You think I am abusing her? She enjoys it even if it's unnatural to carry a rider for her.
Lemon Trickle Btw not all weight goes into front legs, google something about horse's movement.
Reading all the comments about how this is horse abuse makes me laugh, they obviously don't understand horse body language. I don't see any tail cranking, ear pinning, or the horse refusing... As long as the horse is warmed up, and cooled out well and this isn't done on a daily basis, it will cause no problems. There are grand Prix jumpers and horses at Rolex who are 19years old, this isn't going to "ruin" the horse. I wish people could just accept the video for what it is, it's a gorgeous horse with an incredibly beautiful and scopey jump!
Horses are majestic
The scope of that horse is so amazing ❤️😍😍
Those horses are gorgeous, beautiful animals.
What a beautiful horse! :0
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He’s absolutely stunning! Great work :)
This horse is a magic. This horse is a beautiful 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
What a beauty, he watches & seems to be really enjoying what he/she is doing.
Wie wunder schön
A message to all the haters: This is not animal abuse. If the horse didn't want to jump, it would simply just stop in front of the fence. Horses can jump very high without any problems. They would do it in the wild, they can do it in a show ring. Simple as that
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My opinion!
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Yoo the horses at my riding school freak out over bars on the floor :-:
Even experienced showjumpers do that. Talking from own experience. 1,50m Oxer no Problem, but beware the poles on the ground.
@@teddybear5788 that's due to an abusive training technique called tapping.
@@eloisewillsby No. No it’s not. I have two horses that I am 2000% sure have never experienced tapping and they go nuts over ground poles.
@@teddybear5788 did you train them from backing them? Do you know what the previous owners/breeders did to them when they were babies (if there was a previous owner)?
@@teddybear5788 and if what you say is true, then that is down to training, your training, if you don't train the horse to calm tf down and listen, then they will continue with these incredibly bad habits
this ain't abuse.free jumping has been around for ages.every horse has a mind of its own and if this horse didn't want to jump he wouldn't.but horses love nothing more than to roam freely over a jump.
Could be jumping outbof obedience and loyalty, a lot of animals do that. Though I gotta say, this horse does look like he enjoys it. And having a bit and flash aren't exactly needed...also, I can think of a lot of thongs most horses would enjoy more
He is stunning. I love horses that make their jobs look easy, he certainly does. And that back kick on the top side of the jump is to die for! Horses that love their jobs are always treasures, talent is a plus ;)
Amazing how people teach these animals to do this. I know a little miniature lesson pony who can canter barrels all on her own. Sweet pony too😊
Etwas spät aber diese Hinterhand!!!😍😍😍
What is it with all these ABUSE comments? I mean really, if you want to comment, just know something about the sport! That horse looks relaxed as hell he LOVES jumping them and, at 2:39 he tried to go back for more!
I watched many videos of Klaus Hempfling establishing rapport with all sorts of horses with challenging behavior. He always held the lead with an open hand and the lead always drooped - it was never tight. And the horses he worked with followed willingly - even rested their heads against his! Seeing the short lead and utter disrespect these handlers have when working with this horse is quite a shock. There is a better way!
This is something totally different compared to someone leading a horse on a loose lead. This short lead is just for safety. They need to be able to release the horse quick without risking any entanglement. It has nothing to do with disrespect. When the horse enters the arena, a full lenght lead (possibly reins) is on.
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How do they ever keep them in a regularly fenced pasture after teaching them to jump it? lol
Kari Havoth my horse jumps the pasture fence lol
@@MadiChampagne you're lucky, my horse is so lazy she tried to roll under it
Oh my gosh 🤣
My Pony jumped over a hedge that was bigger than him (shetland crossbreed) when he was 2. And he never jumped anything before, since he was too young back then. Today he's nearly 5 and even though I let him jump sometimes, he never tried the fencing again. I guess he figuered out that it's easier to just stay on the ground when there's no human around to make him jump xD
Horses are herd animals, if their buddies are in one pasture, they'll likely stay in that one. However, even if a horse isn't trained to jump professionally, you'll still have horses jumping the fences for fun.
Would make a wonderful eventer
this boy has a future in eventing! look at that form! those floating paces! he really is quite the horse and he has a wonderful conformation. i would definitly buy him and train him if i could. i would love to see him after hes trained. mark my words, he will be a force to be reckoned with!
Wow. I'm super impressed. Especially the high kick back. I doubt he'll ever take a rail with his back legs. In general his hind end has lots of flexion.
I've never seen this before, Im impressed,this is a beautiful horse....but,,,,, just seems a bit confused on what is being asked of him....
Just how is this abuse ? This horse is obviously well cared for, healthy & fit. He is bred to jump & clearly he can easily jump much higher than the jump. The horse is not being pushed to his physical linitations...& isnt even tired. Explain what part of this video is abuse.
*TROLLS* you have nothing better to do w/ur time.
Some of them have good hearts. But they don't do the research
These horses have been bred, trained & physically conditioned by professionals for years. The likely hood of one dropping dead of heart attack would be a very rare occurence. The competitions like this r held to ensure that a high quality of breed standard is maintained. Faults r penalized & therefore low scoring horses r not breeding material.
Such horses as in this video most likely had "many" physical examinations by a vet @ various points in their lives for health & competition reasons. To travel to competition they need a clean bill of health certificate. In addition Horses have a huge capacity for endurance naturally built w/incredibly strong heart & lungs capacity that can endure galloping & jumping @ various speeds for miles. Its rare that a horse is born w/heart or lung problems. If a horse had a noticeable heart problem the trainer would notice @ some point. If a foal was born w/a heart or lung problem it wouldn't grow, play, eat & thrive like normal babies. If a horse had an undetectable heart condition...then yes it could die under strenuous activity. This would b a very rare occassion to happen in horses... even more rare an occurence than a person in professional sport having a fatal heart problem while competing. If a horse had a problem...It could have a fatal heart issue as easily (in competition as running around playn in a field) @home.
I've competed & been to event like this all my life & nvr saw a horse die of a heart condition.
Oh I was talking about the people saying it was abuse.
True people have good intention...often b4 understanding context. Kinda Like me....just now making an example of myself. LOL
I'm not sure how this is abusive either. If anything, this is way more humane than many horse sports. I just hope the horse doesn't just live in a stall though. That is true cruelty to me. Horses, no matter what breed, need to spend most of their time in pasture when they aren't working.
These are test of athletic ability for registration and have scores that can be compared for breeding. There are many other tests, including conformation that list them as "approved". I think it's very good and wish we did this in the states.
This may not be one of the actual tests, but I believe it's what it is, or free jumping. Really beautiful!
Work of art of nature
ana amaro Nope. This is art of humans with no brain and no emathy for horses and their natural behavior. Poor horse!
Nature ???????
You mean human nature not horses nature...
Ok. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that what the announcer was saying and what the captions were putting, it got lost in translation. 😅😅😀
His hind end is amazing!!
She is a beauty. The owners have trained her well
but it is a gelding :-)
Oops. Sorry.
:-)
How are you
+Lucky Harris I like that you're positive compared to some other comments.:)
Oh my gosh! This is amazing! Whoever the owner is it must've taken lots of time and money but it looks wonderful!
Yellow are saying 'she's jolting the lead' it's only because the horse might be going to fast or it might run over her, she's only doing it to slow him down.
Yes I understand i will hurt if she jolts it hard but it didn't look like it she was only telling him too go steadier. Its only my opinion in what I see
OMG he's such a great horse and jumper🙂💙
Ein wirklich tolles Pferd❤
What a fabulous topline this horse has at all paces.
The horse seems to love it!!
People saying that it is animal abuse, and that the horse shouldn't have a bit,
The horse is wearing a bridle with the reins taken off
And what part of this video is abuse??
If the horse didn't want to jump it wouldn't!
I so agree if she didn't want to she wouldn't I ride so I would know the horse refused and I cam of it proved if it didn't want to it wouldn't
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i totaly agreeeee
Horses are obedient to their leaders so using the word "want" is a little controversial. They are herd animals that live in a hierarchy. I also do not see why the horse would need a bit for this. Maybe it was for looks.
Bucking Bæs well said
He's just having fun! I love that.
Beautiful grace and form!
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Jumper, jumper, jumper, reiner😂😂😂😂
He or she was good, though they should have trained him in more basic ground work first like following people without going ahead of them and things like that
AnimalLifestyle ......this horse was trained very well and people can't always keep up with a trotting horse it isn't acting up or anything he's doing his job.
He was excited to jump
amazing horse you have got you are so lucky to have that horse (him/her). The owner trained the horse well to do them jumps. 🐴 🐎
What an amzing horse! Did you see the jump at the end. Look at exactly 3:56. What a horse!
wow that amazing
Ich frage mich, wozu der Sperrriemen sein muss, er bekäme ohne viel besser Luft ....
Leslie Baptist Mein Güte wann lernt ihr endlich dass ein nicht zu eng verschnallter Sperriemen nicht schlimm ist? Außerdem gehört er dazu bei solchen Anlässen da kann man nunmal nicht mit Knotenhalfter aufkreuzen. Und zugeschnürt werden sie ihn wohl nicht haben bringt ihnen ja nichts Zügel sind keine dran
Leslie Baptist
der sperriemen ist dafür da das das gebiss nicht im maul rutscht oder das pferd die zunge über das gebiss legt.
Such a beautiful horse!
To all peeps saying riding is not ok if a horse is not happy about something ..ya know. You just know! They are pretty big.
What a nice horse☺❤🐴
Lea Dolinska Yes it is
Horses are nice ......... many people are not
I thought the commentator was struggling with pronounciation early on, then realized it was in a different language ._.
FlowingDepths hehe lucky me I know some German so I understood 30% of this. What I didn't understand what it's relevance to a free jumper was 😂
ok, ive watched this video few times, in a row, and read the comments. for all the ***horsemen and horsewomen** here that say that : this horse enjoy his work ill say : BULLSHIT !
this IS horse abuse, by making it jump that high, soon she'll have no legs...
but her ears are foward ... no shit.... she need to look where she go because she have no other option than jump ...
but some people said she had excape routes? watch carefully ... there is 2 opening inbetween the jumps... and PEOPLE ARE STANDING IN IT WITH WHIPS!
but she stop after the jumps.... because its a closed area and she have no where to go... she never walked to ge see the human, she just stayed there after the jump prancing and twitching at every little sound...
that horse is nervous from the 1st second of the video, she tried to avoid the jump from the first time she sees it with no poles... the handeler can barely take off the reins as she move so much .... she have her head high, she is prancing , twitching .. even walking away from one of the handeler (oh but the video have been cut there ? ) and when they come to catch her she does have a movement to get away and they need to pull to make her follow... how is all that JOY and FUN and HAPPYNESS ... you see what you want to see, and sometimes people that know nothing about horses are more accurate because they do not have all that : oh but that is normal behaviour , crap... because its not.... normal behaviour...
i would beleive that horse like to jump that high... if you let her lose in the arena, with nobody to persuade her to jump, with a set a jump and no instruction... and that she would freely go there and jump it for no reason... that would be a horse that, for me, enjoy its work... otherwise, that is pure abuse...
This really isn't abuse, though. She's prancing around because she's got energy. Her ears aren't forward because she needs to see where she's going - horses can see perfectly fine without their ears. Her expression and body language would look a lot different if she was upset or unwilling. She's forward in her jumps and has plenty of opportunity to refuse.
As for her legs, as long as she is properly warmed up, cooled down, and groomed, they won't give out. Jumpers tend to have careers spanning into their teens, and from there they retire and spend another 10 - 15 years teaching and in pasture.
If you were to google horse abuse, most of the pictures that come up would probably be of emaciated horses with overgrown hoofs, festering wounds, and a bad case of mange. The mare in this video is NOT abused.
Foreverandalwaysx1 well maybe you and me have different vision about what is horse abuse. if i tell you a kid is abused, you would answer me, well, as long as he has food, and a roof he is not really abused, lok he have no hit marks., and there are kids in africa dying from malnutrition... well... maybe, but that doesnt change what i see .... and you are right, there is worst.
as for the legs , maybe you and me do not go around same jumping horses, because here i see alot of : oh she's perfectly willing to jump, but she need her 2 injections / year... oh she's ok to jump, we've got her nerves cut so she does not feel the pain ... a horse can live up to 50 years, but his career end when he is around 15 ... that mean good care and very good for the body?!
n-way if you enjoy it and you see no problem with that, do so, im not here to change your mind... i made my point, and from what i see im not the only one ?!
Ears pinned means she's hating it. Infact, go to any Hunt class and if your horse has its ears pinned you will be docked marks. She doesn't need her ears pointing forward to see where she's going, thats what eyes are for.
You have a picture of a horse as your profile/icon whatever but seem to know jack shit about horses.
S Genesis HAHAHAHAHA you just made my day . so my point got into you so damn hard that you need to come here and insult me personally for that ?
as for the ears, because that seem to be the main problems here, i know horses dont see with their ears hahahahahah , maybe i've used a wrong way to say what i wanted (sometimes happens when you do not used your 1st language) but ears are sign of attention ... and she have her attention fully in front of her... the jump is so big .... well if i had to jump something very high, i wouldn't pay attention to anything else other than what's coming up ... and it does not mean i would like it.
and that horse is foward?!? how many training hours has been put un that horse, please tell me ?!
mili morin It's not that clear cut. You can't tell if a child is abused from their physical state, but horses communicate their mental state very well through physical interaction. I won't pretend to know how Flying Fire in particular is treated because I've only seen videos of him in the show ring, but I CAN tell you that a horse who is so fit and easy to handle has likely had a generous upbringing. And while I won't deny that there are some unsavory practices to keep a horse competing longer, it's not exactly popular in the show jumping world. Performance enhancing drugs and treatments are more common in horse racing (and parts of the equine community are working to outlaw and enforce said practices).
And FYI, horses do not live for 50 years. The oldest horse I've ever met was 31, and that's relatively uncommon. Most horses pass on between the ages of 25 and 30, regardless of their careers and treatment.
This horse seems to really like to jump
Wonder what goes on behind the scenes that the horses jumps so high like the last jumps... is the training pain, punishment based?
no.no it's not
No. This particular show was to show off the potential the horse has. They just run the horse towards the poles and the horse does the rest.
I see sometimes the horses jump high because they are made to remember the pain inflicted if they do not lift their legs clear...so many things people do for money in horses world...just checking
@@TheTayseen as with most sports, there are always those trainers who deserve to be shot ... infuriating, isn't it..
Of course we can’t know how they train every horse there but with my mare when we did this, there wasn’t any pain or punishment involved she absolutely loved jumping, I started training her since she was young and since she was a foal she’d already jump and just be a little eggnut so it doesn’t always involve forcing some people still respect their horse
Tis a perfectly normal freestyle competion and a well presented horse, shown to professional German standards. I simply do not understand all these "knowledgable" remarks about cruelty, terrified horse, etc. Such nonsense, simply by watching this video?!
That horse is just amazing! Just a dream!!
Beautiful horse!!
it's like there's a little golden
That cutie should get a small treat after every run. Cute, talented and beautiful.
bet he does :)
such a champion awesome horse! (no like Sampson)
I've only seen this used to evaluate non-jumpers for the jumper ring (youngsters or off the track horses) and for breed inspections. I didn't know that they actually just had competitions too. Interesting.
I bought my grand prix jumper off the track this way. Couldn't run to save his life and no one wanted to risk their life getting on him when we went to see him but boy could he jump.
If any of you know horse body language then you would realize this isn't abuse! This horse obviously loves it's job! Look at the ears and tail, IT IS HAPPY. If it wasn't it would show it.