I changed EU4 and forced my friends to play it

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  • čas přidán 18. 01. 2023
  • Today, we have a bit of an EU4 challenge. I decided to force my friend to play EU4 multiplayer (or EU4 MP) after I installed a tricksy little EU4 mod. We see the Ottomans, Lithuania, Poland, Crimea, Austria and Hungary go head to head as they tried to figure out what I changed. This is basically EU4 in torture form with a healthy sprinkling of suffering.
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Komentáře • 147

  • @Lunu_Ser
    @Lunu_Ser Před rokem +570

    It actually ended up taking me two hours, unfortunately.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Před rokem +470

    The Poles gaslighting Laith was such a *POWER MOVE.*
    "You think you're the one in charge of the simulation? That's cute."

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai Před rokem +615

    "Happily torturing friends...." Laith is learning from Vaelfisk guys. Shall we prepare a room for you in the Hague as well Laith?

  • @lolmenx4
    @lolmenx4 Před rokem +252

    Wait...the Austria player could have just abused the "king dies after winning a war" change and get 10 IA everytime

    • @emiroz5728
      @emiroz5728 Před rokem +32

      If there is no heir he would've lost the emperor title. And they finished the game in 1470 so only enough time for 2 heirs to get 15 yo if they were born whenever the king hits 15.

    • @jainabraina
      @jainabraina Před rokem +5

      @@emiroz5728 Yeah, the real move is to win the emperorship as Poland and THEN abuse it, so you have infinite free heirs.
      Oh also you can arrange PUs by losing wars to people.

    • @kuhluhOG
      @kuhluhOG Před 11 měsíci

      @@emiroz5728 just "introduce heir"

  • @aeris5142
    @aeris5142 Před rokem +101

    “Slowly descend into madness”
    As if that was slow. This was the most stressful eu4 game I’ve ever played. Also it’s not my fault I’ve never played ottomans in all my 3500 hours in eu4 and didn’t notice *5 whole discipline* missing.

  • @SuperExplosivegames
    @SuperExplosivegames Před rokem +148

    Ok but Laith, do another one where it is legit gaslighting. You don't change a thing but set it up the same way. Just make sure to say like the 3rd guess made is correct so they go nuts trying to find "the other 9"

    • @TungstenArm
      @TungstenArm Před rokem +26

      The way to make this work is to have one team be in on the gaslighting. They go into private calls and make the correct guesses

  • @arcanus5120
    @arcanus5120 Před rokem +73

    I could barely watch the last 20 minutes of this video. It was like I was having a flashback. I wanted to fly to England and murder Laith when he was talking about "how obvious" the last two changes were. WHO EVEN LOOKS AT CAV PIPS!!!

    • @TheSocialStreamers
      @TheSocialStreamers  Před rokem +51

      You made that very clear off-camera that you had a particular fondness of violence towards my person

    • @arcanus5120
      @arcanus5120 Před rokem +11

      @@TheSocialStreamers Lies and slander - also, proof?

    • @sebastianlavallee706
      @sebastianlavallee706 Před rokem +3

      Everyone noticed "increased casualties" in the beginning and Laith commented "Yeah, those rebels are stronger" - but it might not be the most obvious reason :)

  • @Slayen
    @Slayen Před rokem +269

    Firstly, Koda (Coda?) needs to be on this channel more often. This is a non negotiable demand.
    Secondly, are you now taking ideas from Valefisk? Cause this feels very much like a Valefisk thing. I approve, as I am a terrible person who apparently enjoys seeing people tortured in completely.... relatively.... mostly harmless ways.

    • @imspudus
      @imspudus Před rokem +14

      “Harmless”

    • @arcanus5120
      @arcanus5120 Před rokem +10

      Agreed - We need more dog

    • @nicholascooper945
      @nicholascooper945 Před rokem +13

      Laith 🤝 Valefisk: torturing people in New and Wacky ways

    • @Rex_Silvermoon
      @Rex_Silvermoon Před rokem +1

      I come and watch my 1 eu4 CZcamsr I purely watch for fun and I find you here XD

    • @niluscvp
      @niluscvp Před rokem +4

      would be a fun collab too, where they both torture eachother and maybe their friends in a paradox game

  • @liamtan865
    @liamtan865 Před rokem +116

    WARRIORS OF COLONIAL NOVGOROD, assemble!

  • @henrykanlian7677
    @henrykanlian7677 Před rokem +48

    Omg please do this more. Different changes and then please a gas light ONE 🙏

  • @Thundrecea
    @Thundrecea Před rokem +70

    I don't understand the type of person who thinks idea changes in EU4 are not obvious, I'm in complete agreement with Laith here. I feel like I would've noticed that immediately, ideas are everything.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 Před rokem +22

      Yeah, I’m with you on that. For some nations I could understand, but Ottomans starting with 5% discipline is such a well-known boost to the nation that the lack of it should’ve been obvious immediately.
      Also, doesn’t help that they apparently absolutely suck at remembering the ideas (looking at you, Mr “I know the Austrian ideas inside and out… What do you mean they have 5% discipline now!?”, not to mention they never started out with discipline anyway…)

    • @duskpede5146
      @duskpede5146 Před rokem +5

      @@jordinagel1184 chill out man

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 Před rokem +2

      @@duskpede5146 I’m free to roast people playing a specific game for a living when they miss such obvious things whenever I feel like it, thank you very much

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 Před rokem +4

      @@pyoxydoge2566 nope, wrong. National ideas were indeed changed. Austria does start out with a military idea for traditions, but in the base game it’s some extra morale; here, Austria starts off with extra discipline, which is normally part of the very last NI you unlock.
      Sorry mate.
      Edit: stop the video at 45:09, you can clearly see that Austria starts off with 5% discipline bonus and extra heir chance as an ambition, rather than the usual 10% morale and 30% improve relations

    • @duskpede5146
      @duskpede5146 Před rokem

      @@jordinagel1184 the only person who does this for a living is laith
      plus just because you're legally allowed too doesn't mean you should be a prick for no reason

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 Před rokem +7

    The possibility of swapping points means you can just keepguessing wrong answers to get a load of negative points, then swap with other teams to screw them lol

  • @thespanishinfluenza6047
    @thespanishinfluenza6047 Před rokem +28

    Wow, hated watching this more than I did playing it. We'll be in touch soon, Leith

  • @adamor
    @adamor Před rokem +13

    8:48 eu4 player moment

  • @TungstenArm
    @TungstenArm Před rokem +53

    you should absolutely do more of these MP challenges instead of ever doing that Colonial Novgorod game

    • @burgerking2783
      @burgerking2783 Před rokem +10

      I respectfully decline, colonial Novgorod (no forming russia) needs to be a challenge instantly

  • @nurglefish
    @nurglefish Před rokem +12

    Great video. I think one improvement would be having the changes crossed off as a reminder of what is left to figure out.

  • @GenBrony
    @GenBrony Před rokem +3

    Wine does increase to 3.125 by event. It starts 2.5

  • @dr0g_Oakblood
    @dr0g_Oakblood Před rokem +15

    0:22 - Before starting the video, I want to make a little guess at the rate some of these are discovered.
    1. Probably noticed in the first battle.
    2. Probably depends on the nation. Ottomans probably finds out real quick, difference between 105% and 95% discipline is harsh.
    Edit of this: Oh, so not the national ideas. This will take longer to notice, need admin 5 obviously.
    Edit of this edit: OOOOOHHHHH, you literally *reversed* them back to front, I assumed you meant you inverted their effects, like positive was negative.
    3. Depends on how fast people stab up or lose stab. Bankruptcy is probably a tad OP here, instant 3 Stab.
    4. Cav nation like Poland probably discovers that instantly.
    5. Probably takes the longest to notice on average honestly.
    6. Probably takes a couple of wars to notice, First time would probably be assumed to be bad luck.
    7. If paying attention, probably noticed instantly.
    8. Probably noticed right when it happens, hard to miss that.
    9. That might be easy to miss, might be assumed to just be higher rates of rebellion.
    10. If you are paying attention, probably noticed quickly, if not paying attention, easy to miss.
    Will edit with time to see how accurate I was.
    Edit 1: 2:43 - Called it on 9 Being misinterpreted.
    Edit 2: 5:08 - yup, would have to be paying pretty close attention to that to notice 10.
    Edit 3: 5:42 - As I thought, 7 is easy to catch if you pay attention.
    Edit 4: 9:50 - not when I thought 1 would be discovered, but believeable.
    Edit 5: 10:51 - that's about how I expected 3 to be discovered. "Let me find someone to no-CB", lmao.
    Edit 6: 16:55/17:23 - To be fair, that's about as specific as one could reasonably get for 6, given that they probably aren't losing too many wars.
    Edit 7: 30:25 - Ok yeah I am surprised that it took this long to notice as well for 4 honestly.
    Edit 8: 35:18 - I thought that 5 would take a while to be noticed, yet not quite as long as I thought, but I suppose that 2 and 8 would take a while to get long enough into the game to figure out.
    Edit 9: 40:00 - yeah I thought that 8 would take ages to be revealed.
    Edit 10: 48:18 - oh good grief 2 is a pain lmao. I would be having such a Mandela effect looking at the ideas.

  • @er5269
    @er5269 Před rokem +5

    I want to change HOI4 to secretly lower the amount of victory points in western USSR and putting some more in the east and see how frustrating it would be for the axis players.

  • @rowanmales3430
    @rowanmales3430 Před rokem +5

    Watching was surprisingly fun! Do more of this.

  • @Donderu
    @Donderu Před rokem +1

    Amazing video, would love to see more challenge MP videos

  • @ddrcrono
    @ddrcrono Před rokem +7

    I feel like this concept for group play was a lot more fun and interesting than previous ones which were just kind of angry chaos. (Actually, I liked the guess the hiding nation one too, that was fun). Only constructive criticism I'd offer is that the video started dragging once you were down to the last 2-3 things. One way that would have made it a little more interesting is if you allowed more than one person to guess each thing, but they progressively got less points. (Ex: 1st person to get it gets 5, then everyone else gets 2/3).
    You'd have to have a little Excel sheet going to keep track of each player and what they guessed already and how many points they got but I think it would add a lot more "action" to the guesswork which is supposed to be the main thing going on. This would also add the interesting "Man, everyone has figured out this one but you," and would also add layers of "Hey why is this other player's army suddenly all cavalry?" and so on.

  • @Lithane97
    @Lithane97 Před rokem

    This is a really fun idea, love seeing people puzzle through new things!

  • @WeeJinterz
    @WeeJinterz Před rokem

    This was a great idea! Enjoyed the video very much

  • @roedagardet
    @roedagardet Před rokem +2

    Very great and creative video idea!

  • @stuartwatson7524
    @stuartwatson7524 Před rokem +3

    Got to love a good game of gaslighta universalis 4, truly a great game

  • @jacobschmidt8441
    @jacobschmidt8441 Před rokem

    This is one of the best EU4 video ideas ever

  • @strategystuff5080
    @strategystuff5080 Před rokem

    This is a really fun set of rules, glad the players are taking it in good spirits :)

  • @vestanumen9038
    @vestanumen9038 Před rokem +1

    He could farm imperial authority via reelection and positive benefits from negative stab

  • @cosmingrama9227
    @cosmingrama9227 Před rokem +1

    Please do more of this!!

  • @GAarcher
    @GAarcher Před rokem +7

    bruh I would like reversed stability in the real game

  • @matheusGMN
    @matheusGMN Před rokem +2

    the ideas one were not obvious at all, you'd really have to know well a nation to notice it

  • @TheSapier
    @TheSapier Před rokem +1

    this is a great way to find bugs in your mods

  • @yxseen.szn_
    @yxseen.szn_ Před rokem +1

    34:26 Was that a Game of Thrones reference?

  • @badusername9903
    @badusername9903 Před rokem

    that is a beautiful doggy i wont be thinking about anything else for the rest of the video :-D

  • @Rakettivuori
    @Rakettivuori Před rokem +1

    I think the reason why Austria kept the union is because he had a consort regency and it killed the consort, which does not break the union

  • @andrewbowler7650
    @andrewbowler7650 Před rokem

    Number 7 is particularly devious.

  • @JSCaldas
    @JSCaldas Před rokem

    That jacmido fella sure is funny

  • @PaxRomana101
    @PaxRomana101 Před rokem +3

    Quick question, how do you manage to do all of your activities like uni and boxing and yt and so on, with so little time ?

  • @kaka09876543210
    @kaka09876543210 Před rokem

    Like interesting mod. Do you release it to workshop?

  • @givemeawand
    @givemeawand Před rokem +3

    FOR COLONIAL NOVGOROD!!!

  • @Vindrka
    @Vindrka Před rokem

    I love the husky!

  • @dapol-kp6kv
    @dapol-kp6kv Před rokem

    Colonial Novgorod as Liam Tan said

  • @rensvopstal
    @rensvopstal Před rokem +1

    instant thumbs up for husky

  • @sousiegousie2554
    @sousiegousie2554 Před rokem

    Give more scream dog. We desire scream dog

  • @orangepuffs6796
    @orangepuffs6796 Před rokem

    Hey my boy Lunu made this one!

  • @strategystuff5080
    @strategystuff5080 Před rokem

    Terrain would be one I get Instantly.

  • @kesorangutan6170
    @kesorangutan6170 Před rokem

    You can train a husky? They are the cats of the dog breeds.

  • @G4MERM4D09
    @G4MERM4D09 Před rokem

    We need a randomizer and chaos mod for EU4

  • @KosturKos
    @KosturKos Před rokem

    very fun video

  • @kayjay1728
    @kayjay1728 Před rokem

    plot twist: the changes are actually bugs from EU5 development

  • @hellodolly7989
    @hellodolly7989 Před rokem +1

    Does not everyone look at their NIs at the start of every game?

  • @horsermchead2504
    @horsermchead2504 Před rokem +1

    Okay, why is there no mod link?

  • @AlsoSunsteel
    @AlsoSunsteel Před rokem

    What's the inverted idea mod? I want it

  • @TheStickCollector
    @TheStickCollector Před rokem +5

    Interesting

  • @heavencanceler2691
    @heavencanceler2691 Před rokem

    I thought it was gonna be the thing where you guess which nation is a player but because its an insane mod everything is a mess and extra hard to follow shit...

  • @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8

    Send this to Chewbert he’ll love this

  • @arcanus5120
    @arcanus5120 Před rokem +3

    Does he know?

  • @mommos2311
    @mommos2311 Před rokem +5

    I like turtles

  • @jasonglasser1621
    @jasonglasser1621 Před rokem +2

    Liked the concept, didn't like 31:53 where your guy was trying to explain why the cav pips thing wasn't obvious and you wouldn't even let him speak. If you want people to guess these things, let them speak ffs. That part was so infuriating to watch

  • @Worgrunner
    @Worgrunner Před rokem

    How can I get the UK to stop using this mod IRL?

  • @haradrim0932
    @haradrim0932 Před rokem

    YOUR DOGE IS THE BEST!!!!

  • @davidbergstrom5703
    @davidbergstrom5703 Před rokem

    You should make a challenge like this for yourself. With the help of a friendly modder of course.

  • @breath4255
    @breath4255 Před rokem

    at 12:20 how does nobody realize that the prices of goods change over time b/c of events

  • @djordjejovanovic4540
    @djordjejovanovic4540 Před rokem

    when im playing poland, the only thing i look at is winged hussars...how didnt poland player see it T_T

  • @petzi3110
    @petzi3110 Před rokem +1

    I want to play this mod xD

  • @John-iq3wu
    @John-iq3wu Před rokem

    laith world conquest as albania hoi4

  • @MrBoudloche
    @MrBoudloche Před rokem

    I can’t believe my state won!!!! Vie à la Louisiane.

  • @tendoo404
    @tendoo404 Před rokem +1

    Based Lunu

  • @lucaspinder5604
    @lucaspinder5604 Před rokem

    Huskyyyyyyyyyy

  • @elvastan
    @elvastan Před rokem

    4:41 Rare cenvor L

  • @ASingularGayFrito
    @ASingularGayFrito Před rokem

    nice

  • @duskpede5146
    @duskpede5146 Před rokem

    tbh i still don't get what the idea's one was?

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 Před rokem

    Lore of I changed EU4 and forced my friends to play it momentum 100

  • @Gandalf0110
    @Gandalf0110 Před rokem

    Just play without DLCs... At first glance, it is all good, but at some point, lack of certain things start to click, and you realise how cursed the game is

  • @Tom-oj7si
    @Tom-oj7si Před rokem

    Where is Will, he was always the biggest part of this channel

  • @user-vg9dl2hp6i
    @user-vg9dl2hp6i Před rokem

    DOGGY!!!!!!!!!!

  • @strategystuff5080
    @strategystuff5080 Před rokem

    I mean the Ideas one is not that obvious, because paradox tweaks them quite a bit. 5 Discipline on Ottomans would be the most obvious, Elan on france ect, Just reversing the Order, makes it really not obvious because you think "Hmm well these ideas look about right", If you had swapped them with another Nations ideas. Now that would be obvious.

  • @duphasdan
    @duphasdan Před rokem

    For some reason I had to subscribe again. The people working at youtube are being massive youtubes again.

  • @liamtan865
    @liamtan865 Před rokem +10

    Day 10 of DEMANDING our glorious leader Laith to, Surael/Surakel willing, PLEASE play more eu4 Anbennar. Thank you.
    (I'm actually more of a bramashite/bulgu orazan person, but I like bulwar alot so...)

    • @agring8391
      @agring8391 Před rokem +1

      he should definitely enjoy The Command as he loves a lot of conquest.

    • @liamtan865
      @liamtan865 Před rokem

      @@agring8391 yeah, I think he mentioned wanting to try them a while back too.

  • @burgerking2783
    @burgerking2783 Před rokem +4

    Day 37 of demanding an eu4 colonial Novgorod game (no forming Russia)

  • @Draugtaur
    @Draugtaur Před rokem +1

    how tf is swapped ideas obvious, who memorizes this shit т_т

  • @Cohor101
    @Cohor101 Před rokem

    It is day 78 of asking you to do the Croatia challenge in VIC 3

  • @tike2440
    @tike2440 Před rokem +1

    Man ur upload is 7 hours late, i waited all night long! Now i have to work without sleep :/

  • @liamtan865
    @liamtan865 Před rokem +4

    Day 7 of asking for an eu4 colonial novgord game (no forming russia)

    • @victorconway444
      @victorconway444 Před rokem +3

      What's the fun in that? Especially now that you can get an enhanced veche republic gov when forming russia as novgorod

    • @liamtan865
      @liamtan865 Před rokem +1

      @@victorconway444 it's not really about the fun.

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 Před rokem

    :- D

  • @kam......
    @kam...... Před rokem

    I hate the fast popping text format in the beginning with a passion. It is neither easy to read, nor necessary. We read in sentences, not three word chunks! Why are so many editors doing this nowadays?

  • @micayahritchie7158
    @micayahritchie7158 Před rokem

    Day 28 suggesting forming the empire of the Caribbean in after the end

  • @fuadlabib703
    @fuadlabib703 Před rokem

    The waffle House has found its new host

    • @h3069
      @h3069 Před rokem

      Unfunny publicity stunt by Jonny Razer Shorts. He wants his own Artillery only moment.

  • @GorillamanHaramba
    @GorillamanHaramba Před rokem +4

    Think of the US watchers, it is 11 at night you need to upload earlier

    • @Vindrka
      @Vindrka Před rokem

      Yup

    • @urmum2083
      @urmum2083 Před rokem +6

      He just loves his European bros🥰

    • @christopherlane467
      @christopherlane467 Před rokem

      I'm a US watcher, I stay up until 3-4 am regularly...

    • @wowthatsamazing_
      @wowthatsamazing_ Před rokem +4

      I think thats a you problem, because you can watch the video later

    • @Kinem0d
      @Kinem0d Před rokem

      @@urmum2083 5 am isn't exactly "love"

  • @_NeonGhost_
    @_NeonGhost_ Před rokem

    @valefisk vibes

  • @thatone_cat
    @thatone_cat Před rokem +1

    Does he know?